packers6211
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The pics don't lie bro. You can tell your training is paying off. As I said before you and Green would be sick workout partners. I need to hit the lotto so I can build my Gym and have you two educate me lol.
RickRock's gettin' DIESEL with Dieselbolan/Epi-strong and RS-Transaderm!!
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TurningGreen
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RR, you look damn fantastic bro! I give you props on holding strong through the water retention...I wanted to break out in tears when I was holding LOL! For real though when you shed that H20, and still have that new mass...well need I say more!!
MrKleen73
Legend
I got your back bro, sure you have put on a little fat everyone is saying water but the reality is you are on a lean bulk and out of what close to 15 lbs 2-3 has been fat. Well done.
No it isn't all water like everyone wants to tell you. Both you and I know this. It is a hard thing to admit and a worse thing to fool yourself into believing. You are still looking great and from what I can tell you are also about as far as you can handle being out of shape. Good news is honestly you still look great!
Welcome to the big leagues pimpin! When a solid physique that makes others jealous makes you cringe a little then you have arrived at a totally different level. You have gone from a top 3% er to a top 2% er. It may not sound like a lot to you but those last few percent in the GPA system are the hardest to get. Now go put a hat on then walk up to the mirror and tip your hat to yourself. You have arrived at a mentallity that will keep you from ever getting back to the old you unless something happens that causes you to give up completely.
No it isn't all water like everyone wants to tell you. Both you and I know this. It is a hard thing to admit and a worse thing to fool yourself into believing. You are still looking great and from what I can tell you are also about as far as you can handle being out of shape. Good news is honestly you still look great!
Welcome to the big leagues pimpin! When a solid physique that makes others jealous makes you cringe a little then you have arrived at a totally different level. You have gone from a top 3% er to a top 2% er. It may not sound like a lot to you but those last few percent in the GPA system are the hardest to get. Now go put a hat on then walk up to the mirror and tip your hat to yourself. You have arrived at a mentallity that will keep you from ever getting back to the old you unless something happens that causes you to give up completely.
oufinny
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Thanks for the compliments guys. I will be entering PCT later this week, and hopefully things will look a lot better after dropping some water.
On another note, I am looking to switch my training up after PCT and do something different but I'm not sure what I want to do yet. I will be switching to recomp then, so i am considering a few different options. 5x5, DC, and the warrior workout (full body) are a few ideas I have. I'm open to suggestions....I just want to do something different that fits well with my goals into 3 workouts per week
Here are my thoughts for you on PCT workouts. If absolute size retention is your goal, 5x5 or DC would be the two I would consider. If you are wanting to continue to stay really lean and willing to possibly lose an extra few pounds, the Warrior is the way to go. It is all the best parts of HST with some of DC in it too, I love it and have done it multiple times with great success. When I did DC it was 4 workouts per week but there is a 3 workout per week set up. Chris gave me a copy of his DC plan that was 4 per week but you could just as easily make it 3. I wanted to get more volume in but it ended up being my demise as my elbow couldn't take the abuse anymore.
Also, once you start an AI during your PCT Rick you will drop all the subq water and shred up in no time. Even with all that Epi, I think you are still holding water from the Transderm, it did that to me but the other benefits made it totally worth it. What is your PCT protocol looking like?
TurningGreen
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I have a few hats you can borrow RR...if you'd like!! Well said Kleen, never being satisfied is the true supplement!
packers6211
Well-known member
I'd hate to being a competition voter and have RR and Green in the same one. Both are some very strong lean mofo's
RickRock13
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Wow....I'm just about speechless from everything everyone has said here. You guys have no idea how great it is to hear it!! I don't see myself in the same way that you guys do I guess. Kleen is right though....I've gained probably around 3 lbs of fat through this run. By my measurements, I'm around 9.5% and started at around 8% so that makes sense. Last year around this time I would have been laughing that I would be feeling fat at under 10%....but the thing is that once you've seen yourself pretty ripped, just a little increase will make you look and feel sloppy to yourself, at least to me. I honestly can't wait to lean out again, but I have to wait for now....
RickRock13
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I owe you guys all some big reps!! I promise to get you some next time I'm at my computer. This mobile app won't let me!!
Onlychevy6
Well-known member
Either way you have killed it you should be proud. I know I would be at this point.
mattrag
Legend
As Jeff said, be proud man. Keep it tight though. Reward yourself with the fact that you have worked harder than most people would ever, and have obtained a physique most ppl would die for.
LiveToLift
Legend
Looking ripped for sure bro! I'm about your weight and I'm not nearly as cut as you! Be proud man, you have a good reason to be! Good job RR!
NuclearLaunch
Active member
Always great to follow a log like this. Great work man. Way to kill it.
RickRock13
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CYCLE DAY 43 & 44
Well....today is my burn day. Went in for cardio this morning of 35 minutes elliptical for a 455 Cal burn. Cal's will be kept tight today and i should end up at 1900ish.
I missed posting yesterdays workout so here it is...
Chest/triceps
BB flat bench
135x15
225x13
245x8
265x5
245x6
225x10
Incline DB press
70sx15
80sx10
85sx10x9
80sx10
Pec deck Flye
120x9
110x10x9
100x10x9
Bench press machine
180x15
215x10x9
Decline bench machine
225x10x10x9
Rope push Downs (SS with BW Dips)
130x11,BWx11
140x10,BWx10
150x9,BWx9
Triceps push Downs (v grip)
120x10x10x9
Well....today is my burn day. Went in for cardio this morning of 35 minutes elliptical for a 455 Cal burn. Cal's will be kept tight today and i should end up at 1900ish.
I missed posting yesterdays workout so here it is...
Chest/triceps
BB flat bench
135x15
225x13
245x8
265x5
245x6
225x10
Incline DB press
70sx15
80sx10
85sx10x9
80sx10
Pec deck Flye
120x9
110x10x9
100x10x9
Bench press machine
180x15
215x10x9
Decline bench machine
225x10x10x9
Rope push Downs (SS with BW Dips)
130x11,BWx11
140x10,BWx10
150x9,BWx9
Triceps push Downs (v grip)
120x10x10x9
masonmarin18
Active member
Lookin mean RR! Hope PCT goes well for you, or else... DIAPER lmao..
MrKleen73
Legend
Hey guys I am about 100% sure I will be in a diaper but I am gonna look good in it. Paying attention to my diet had added some lean mass while I leaned up a tiny bit. I was definitely not getting enough protein before. 
Anyway since I saw the diaper comment I figured I would mention it since I am not really logging anything right now.
Anyway since I saw the diaper comment I figured I would mention it since I am not really logging anything right now.
mattrag
Legend
MrKleen73 said:Hey guys I am about 100% sure I will be in a diaper but I am gonna look good in it. Paying attention to my diet had added some lean mass while I leaned up a tiny bit. I was definitely not getting enough protein before.
True dat my friend ... I got like 10 days to get tighter. And I doubt it's happening. I got three partys to go to that are at buffets... Yakiniku ((all you can eat meats)) and chinese place... I try to keep it lean, or keto. But I can eat so much...
Oh wells. Here's to the new year!
RickRock13
Well-known member
I'm pretty sure that i will be ok for the contest, but you never know. Weight has been between 176-178 depending on if I'm filled up or depleted whether following a burn or build day. I will probably fill up next Friday, and take pics Christmas eve with a weigh in of at least 175 hopefully :fingersx:
packers6211
Well-known member
Awesome lifts bro. I really do want to mimic your chest and tri's day. Always solid and good volume.
laserbluess
Well-known member
havn't posted in a while but dang rick, looking leaner and meaner than ever. i didnt think you could get leaner than the last time i followed your log. WRONG! you are lookin shredded and strong as an ox. good job man! keep it up. hopefully in the next few weeks ill be confident enough to post my progress pics. you are putting everyone to shame!
RickRock13
Well-known member
packers6211 said:
Thanks bro!
RickRock13
Well-known member
laserbluess said:
Glad to see you drop in man. Its been a little while since I've seen you around. Hows your progress going? Thanks for the kind words man. I really appreciate it! :thumbsup:
laserbluess
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I'm at 197 as of today. Been doing the lean gains diet and its workin! Hoping to get to a solid 190 or so by mid january. My abs are more visible, but nothin like yours or cleans.
NuclearLaunch
Active member
laserbluess said:
I meant to PM you recently. We talked a while back and you helped me decide on my run. I'll be logging it in about a month. Hopefully you will be around.
RickRock13
Well-known member
Sounds good bro. I'm definitely interested in how things go for ya
Well the good news is that you wont be alone according to Kleen. You guys are my bros on here and all, but I'm going to be doing my best to NOT join you guys in the diaper wearing!
So...today is my last day on cycle. It has been a fun ride, but like all good things...must come to an end. I'm actually lookiong forward to PCT and the challenge of keeping and maintaining the gains I've made. My plan is going to change slightly from what it has been on cycle to more of a "maintenance" type of diet. I will be lowering my build days a couple hundred cals or so (2800ish) and increasing burn days a couple hundred also (2k-2200ish). this will shift the focus away from building and burning to more of maintaining my current state. I'm not planning on adding any bodyfat at all during PCT, but doing my best to just stay the same for a month while I recover my HPTA. Cardio will also be limited to low intensity of mostly just incline treadmill walking. After PCT I will go back to recomp so I can get back to dropping some bodyfat and get back to a comfortable level for me. for now, here is the PCT plan I have laid out...
Clomid 50/50/50/50
HCGenerate: 5 caps per day
Phytoserms 347: 1 cap per day
Powerchews D-test (DAA & LCLT): 1 serving perday
SARM Ostarine (MK-2866): 12mg per day
Formastanozol (starting week 3): 5 pumps AM and 5 pumps PM
Here is the workout from yesterday that I didnt get posted up...
Back/Biceps
Wide grip pullups (warmup)
BWx15x12x10
T-Bar Rows
180x12
225x10
235x8
225x9
Bent over Smith Rows:
160x10x10x10x10
Single Arm DB Rows
105x10
110x9
105x9
100x10
Dorsiflexor
285x11
300x10
315x9
300x9
DB Hammer Curls
50sx10
55sx10x9
BB Curls
95x10x9x9
Double Bicep Cable Curls (with double drop sets)
70/60/50x10/9/8
70/50/40x9/8/9
RickRock13
Well-known member
mattrag said:
Thanks bro! I'm going to give this PCT hell for sure. Them gains are here to stay, and its my job to prove it and that's exactly what I intend to do!! When you are a hard gainer every lb of muscle is a HUGE deal!!
Today's workout....
LAST DAY OF CYCLE
Shoulders/Hamstrings
Smith Military
180x12 (PR)
200x8 (PR)
190x9
180x10
180x10
Cable upright rows
190x10
200x9x9
190x9
180x11
Shrugs
270x11
290x10
310x9
290x10
270x10
Lateral raise (machine)
140x10
150x9
140x10
Leg curls
190x10x10x9x9x9
Also did some ab work....
RickRock13
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AaronJP1 said:
Well a cycle isn't really over until you make it through PCT, so I'm not done here yet!!
My next cycle won't be until late spring into early summer, but I will be running an 8 week recomp of SARMS S4 and Ostarine about a month after PCT is over, and I will probably log that
NuclearLaunch
Active member
That would be a good log. You don't see many SARM logs which has left me pretty unknowledgeable about them.
RickRock13
Well-known member
NuclearLaunch said:
I plan on getting a lot of discussion and interest going about SARMS with sides/benefits and of course pics to go with it. I've ran both solo but not stacked. It should be a good time!!
dylangemelli
Banned
cant wait for that one bro! I was thinking about doing ghrp-2 and icgf after my cycle is over... lets get it man!
RickRock13
Well-known member
Ostarine will be ran in PCT starting tomorrow at 12mg. I will stop it at the end of PCT for about a month to let my body normalize a bit, then start my recomp with Ostarine at a higher dose (25mg) and S-4 at 50mg. The plan during that 8 week run will be to get down to a lower bodyfat than I have been yet ( hopefully 7% or lower) and add a few lbs of lean mass in the process. I literally cant wait for that run. I think its going to be a blast, and I have some other goodies to add in also (Formastanozol, N2Burn, may add Alpha T-2 and Ursobolic too) look for that log to pop up around the first or second week of February
that would be some fun too. Ive never tried out any peptides yet, but its in my plans sometime
mattrag
Legend
Ostarine will be ran in PCT starting tomorrow at 12mg. I will stop it at the end of PCT for about a month to let my body normalize a bit, then start my recomp with Ostarine at a higher dose (25mg) and S-4 at 50mg. The plan during that 8 week run will be to get down to a lower bodyfat than I have been yet ( hopefully 7% or lower) and add a few lbs of lean mass in the process. I literally cant wait for that run. I think its going to be a blast, and I have some other goodies to add in also (Formastanozol, N2Burn, may add Alpha T-2 and Ursobolic too) look for that log to pop up around the first or second week of February
that would be some fun too. Ive never tried out any peptides yet, but its in my plans sometime
SARMs are pretty interesting, the research is definitely there. Only problem is of course, the cost. Though when thinking about buying the Andro Series from PP I have to make similar choices... Cycle support/PCT vs. no cycle support but more expensive hormone.
Never ran a SARM or did much searching on what you need as far as support, or what kind of sides to expect... Well aside from those scary vision sides from S4....
packers6211
Well-known member
RR def link me when you do your log on sarms. I really want to learn about this.
mattrag
Legend
^^^X2
NuclearLaunch
Active member
mattrag said:
Are visions sides permanent? I don't Think they would be I'm just wondering. And do you need a PCT for SARMS? I think I know more about injects than sarms. Sad.
RickRock13
Well-known member
SARMs are definitely expensive when looking at the cost of the product, but when you look at the big picture running a cycle of them, they are pretty cheap. I mean you dont have to buy any supports to run and there is no PCT. That alone saves more money than the cost of the product in a lot of cases.
For sure guys. I will link you fellas up when I get it going. I would love to have you guys there when I do for sure!
No....vision sides from S-4 subside after coming off of it. I think it affects people a little differently too. I never got the vision sides too bad. It took a little longer for my eyes to adjust going from dark to light or vise versa, but that was it. No yellow tint that some get or anything else. Basically S-4 binds to the occular receptor which causes the vision sides, so upon discontinuing the SARM that side obviously goes away. These are relatively new, so there are no long term studies for possible long term side effcts either which will deter some people from using S-4. Ostarine is the more "popular" SARM of choice for a lot of reasons.
First day of PCT. Just had my first dose of Ostarine. For my SERM I said I was using Clomid, but I decided to go with Nolva. I went to get my PCT stuff out of my stash last night and seen that I have a buttload of Nolva, and not a whole lot of Clomid, so I am using the Nolva just because of how much I have. I know some people dont like Nolva after Epi, but I did it my first cycle and had a great recovery. I am going to keep the cals higher like planned for a while (at least 2 weeks) until I feel I've made some good progress on recovery. it will be more like miantenance really since burn days will be higher and build days slightly lower. Its all relative and works out to the same cals give or take each week. I'm just shifting them some to "maintain" instead of "building" and "burning".....now off to kill the weights!!!
RickRock13
Well-known member
PCT DAY 1
Workout went damn good today. I felt incredible in the gym. I'm not sure what caused it, but I almost felt euphoric. It may have been the Ostarine or the HCGenerate or may have just been placebo.....either way I felt incredible. I didn't want to leave! Awesome pumps and vascularity that I am pretty sure was coming from Ostarine. I was looking pretty huge today too and full.
Quads/arms
Squats
135x15
225x12
245x10
265x8
245x10
225x10
Leg press
8 plates x15
10 plates x12
12 plates x 10
12 plates x 9
10 plates x 10
8 plates x 15
Weighted dips
BW+115x10x9
BW +90x12
Triceps push Downs
110x12
120x11
130x10
Skull crushers
85x15 (PR)
105x10x9
Alternate DB curls
55sx9x8
45sx10 (slow and very controlled)
Bisolator (cable single preachers)
220x11x10x10
Workout went damn good today. I felt incredible in the gym. I'm not sure what caused it, but I almost felt euphoric. It may have been the Ostarine or the HCGenerate or may have just been placebo.....either way I felt incredible. I didn't want to leave! Awesome pumps and vascularity that I am pretty sure was coming from Ostarine. I was looking pretty huge today too and full.
Quads/arms
Squats
135x15
225x12
245x10
265x8
245x10
225x10
Leg press
8 plates x15
10 plates x12
12 plates x 10
12 plates x 9
10 plates x 10
8 plates x 15
Weighted dips
BW+115x10x9
BW +90x12
Triceps push Downs
110x12
120x11
130x10
Skull crushers
85x15 (PR)
105x10x9
Alternate DB curls
55sx9x8
45sx10 (slow and very controlled)
Bisolator (cable single preachers)
220x11x10x10
RickRock13
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Forgot to post end of cycle pic, so here it is....
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Onlychevy6
Well-known member
hell of a run big man. Now lets see the PCT keep your gains.
DreamWeaver
Legend
Nice job still looking mice and lean, no real signs of water retention so the EPI cleaned you up. You definitely look a bit harder than the last pics I saw.
RickRock13
Well-known member
Thanks a lot to the both of you. You guys really help to keep me motivated through it. I'm very happy with the amount of lean mass I gained. After gaining about 13 lbs, to only gain less than 2% bodyfat, I think that is pretty good. Only roughly 3 lbs of fat out of 13 lbs. I'm curious once all the water falls off how much mass I'm left with...
PCT DAY 2
Today is a burn day and i went in for cardio this morning. It was planned to be some light intensity elliptical, but ended up being a little higher intensity. My cardio endurance has really went to a new level since the last time I did any. I think the reason is twofold....I dropped the EPI, which tends to negatively affect my cardio like a lot of people and also starting Ostarine helped a lot too. That is something that is a big benefit with it. Ostarine really gives incredible cardiovascular endurance, and I'm already feeling the effects of it....elliptical for 30 minutes @ 415 Cal burn without even trying! I just have to literally force myself to keep the intensity from going too high on cardio until I am on the downhill slide on recovery
PCT DAY 2
Today is a burn day and i went in for cardio this morning. It was planned to be some light intensity elliptical, but ended up being a little higher intensity. My cardio endurance has really went to a new level since the last time I did any. I think the reason is twofold....I dropped the EPI, which tends to negatively affect my cardio like a lot of people and also starting Ostarine helped a lot too. That is something that is a big benefit with it. Ostarine really gives incredible cardiovascular endurance, and I'm already feeling the effects of it....elliptical for 30 minutes @ 415 Cal burn without even trying! I just have to literally force myself to keep the intensity from going too high on cardio until I am on the downhill slide on recovery
packers6211
Well-known member
Holly MOG bro that is a wicked pic. Your so freaking lean and yet you have very solid mass. Your workout was insane and it's good your feeling that high lol. I rather feel that kinda high any day over the I was going to go to work but I got high feeling.