RickRock's gettin' DIESEL with Dieselbolan/Epi-strong and RS-Transaderm!!

[DreamWeaver]

Yah I am surprised your up 2% but the mass gain probably has made any fat gain very hard to discern. I will keep that in mind cuz it answers some questions about my own experiences, I make great gains on EPI and it doesn't appear I gain fat cuz my look changes so much but later when the effects wear off I wonder where did all this extra fat come from lol I have to make the proper diet adjustments in PCT. I know a lot of people say don't drop calories but if your not as anabolic you would have to ease them down a bit.

 

[mattrag]

Yah I am surprised your up 2% but the mass gain probably has made any fat gain very hard to discern. I will keep that in mind cuz it answers some questions about my own experiences, I make great gains on EPI and it doesn't appear I gain fat cuz my look changes so much but later when the effects wear off I wonder where did all this extra fat come from lol I have to make the proper diet adjustments in PCT. I know a lot of people say don't drop calories but if your not as anabolic you would have to ease them down a bit.

Yea I guess monitoring food intake to be "enough" would be good. I am still trying to get back my strength from my first cycle... Well except my deadlifts that have already surpassed them. But its sdrol...

Anyway, hope you continue to gain muscle and lose fat in this very hard time for us physique fanatics lol.

 

[RickRock13]

I appreciate all the input and great compliments you guys give. It really means a lot to me and helps to keep focused and pushing every day. PCT can be a tricky animal for sure. You have to fight to keep the gains made on cycle, and hopefully not gain fat in the process. That's why I am treating PCT more like a maintenance phase more than anything. I'm not looking to gain or lose on either muscle or fat. If I can end my 28 days the same as I started PCT (minus any water) then that is a success in my eyes.

PCT DAY 3

Rest day today and the diet will be pretty loose. I have a Christmas party to go to, and my fast breaker is limited to whatever is available there. Tonight's meal will be on point however, and very clean.

I am maintaining weight and fullness so far. Its only the 3rd day, but everything seems to be going as good as can be expected for now. Performance in the gym tomorrow will be interesting to see how it goes too.

 

[LiveToLift]

I appreciate all the input and great compliments you guys give. It really means a lot to me and helps to keep focused and pushing every day. PCT can be a tricky animal for sure. You have to fight to keep the gains made on cycle, and hopefully not gain fat in the process. That's why I am treating PCT more like a maintenance phase more than anything. I'm not looking to gain or lose on either muscle or fat. If I can end my 28 days the same as I started PCT (minus any water) then that is a success in my eyes.

CYCLE DAY 3

Rest day today and the diet will be pretty loose. I have a Christmas party to go to, and my fast breaker is limited to whatever is available there. Tonight's meal will be on point however, and very clean.

I am maintaining weight and fullness so far. Its only the 3rd day, but everything seems to be going as good as can be expected for now. Performance in the gym tomorrow will be interesting to see how it goes too.

Good luck bro, I know its just day 3 but everyday that passes on pct that you weigh the same is a good feeling! That is for damn sure, I'm sure with your dedication and drive you shouldn't have any problem solidifying those gains bro!

 

[packers6211]

Can't wait to see how it goes either bro. I don't doubt that it will be less then stellar. Kill it

 

[RickRock13]

PCT DAY 4

Today's workout went excellent, and way better than i expected it to. The best part of today is my appearance. IMO I looked better today than any day on cycle. I looked very big and full, vascularity was way up, and appeared leaner and more ripped. I'm sure that its from dropping some water, but my weight is only down a half pound! Judging by what I've seen in the mirror today, I think I've actually gained less fat than I previously thought. I may have to recheck bodyfat soon to verify. I also managed to hit 2 PRs today, which is totally unexpected....

Chest/triceps

DB flat bench press
90sx15
100sx11 (PR)
100sx10x9
90sx10

DB flyes
55sx12 (PR)
60sx11(PR)x10x10
55sx11

Incline bench machine
115x15
135x10x9x9

Declined bench machine
225x10x9x9

Triceps push Downs
100x11
110x10
120x9
110x10

Triceps machine
200x9
190x10
180x10

 

[NuclearLaunch]

That's awesome man. Keep killing it. Getting recheck is prolly a good idea. Do you think you are still doing so well because the sarms?

 

[mattrag]

Wow that is awesome results man. PCT going great I see.
About the SARMs, do you usually notice this on your PCTs since adding the sarms in the mix?
Is one bottle enough usually to get you through on PCT? (money aspect here).

 

[RickRock13]

Yes guys I believe that Ostarine has a big hand in everything, but its only day 4 and too early to really give anything too much credit until I'm a good week or more into PCT. It has always helped me hold strength and weight in PCT, and my last cycle I even gained strength in PCT and was stronger at the end of PCT than at the end of cycle.

A bottle of Ostarine is 30ml @ 25mg per ml. Typical dose is 12mg, but some will go as low as 6mg or as high as 25mg. Ive done 6mg before and it was decent, but I think 12mg is a good spot for PCT. I probably will do 25mg when I run my recomp. So....a bottle will last 60 days at 12mg or 30 days at 25mg.

 

[packers6211]

Kaboom!! That's the sound I hear and the visual effects that I see when thinking of RR's routine. Your sick bro and I mean in a wicked Alpha Male way.

 

[chedapalooza]

I saw mention of some 3 day a week workouts.. 5x5 and dc I am familiar with, but never heard of warrior training.. Sounds neat lol.. Googled it but got too Many different things.. Anyone have an outline/template or link to the actual one?? Thanks!

 

[RickRock13]

I saw mention of some 3 day a week workouts.. 5x5 and dc I am familiar with, but never heard of warrior training.. Sounds neat lol.. Googled it but got too Many different things.. Anyone have an outline/template or link to the actual one?? Thanks!

The warrior workout is a routine that Kleen came up with that is a very effective full body routine. He emailed me the whole routine last year. I will see if I can dig it up if you want a copy, or PM Kleen and I'm sure he would have no problem sending it to you.

PCT DAY 5

Burn day, but taking it easy a little. I did cardio this morning, but it was limited to 30 minutes incline treadmill (15% incline @3.5 MPH ) for a 365 Cal burn. Cal's will be a tad higher today than a typical burn day and I expect to end up at 2200-2500 total today...

I gave a lot of increased sweating going on from the ostarine which is nice and typical.

 

[beastybean]

not sure if you posted it, but did you decide to run clomid or nolva?

 

[dylangemelli]

Really glad to hear that your feeling and looking good bro... I know your bustin your a$$ and I have a lot of respect for that... good job bro and keep it up!

PCT DAY 4

Today's workout went excellent, and way better than i expected it to. The best part of today is my appearance. IMO I looked better today than any day on cycle. I looked very big and full, vascularity was way up, and appeared leaner and more ripped. I'm sure that its from dropping some water, but my weight is only down a half pound! Judging by what I've seen in the mirror today, I think I've actually gained less fat than I previously thought. I may have to recheck bodyfat soon to verify. I also managed to hit 2 PRs today, which is totally unexpected....

Chest/triceps

DB flat bench press
90sx15
100sx11 (PR)
100sx10x9
90sx10

DB flyes
55sx12 (PR)
60sx11(PR)x10x10
55sx11

Incline bench machine
115x15
135x10x9x9

Declined bench machine
225x10x9x9

Triceps push Downs
100x11
110x10
120x9
110x10

Triceps machine
200x9
190x10
180x10

 

[RickRock13]

not sure if you posted it, but did you decide to run clomid or nolva?

Yeh I went with Nolva, mostly because I have a sh1tload of it in my stash that I need to use up compared to Clomid on hand. I will be running it 20/20/10/10

Really glad to hear that your feeling and looking good bro... I know your bustin your a$$ and I have a lot of respect for that... good job bro and keep it up!

Thanks bro. I'm doing my best!! So far strength and weight is holding well, while continueing to dry out a little. So far so good!

 

[packers6211]

I thought it was so wierd when i found my liquid clomid. I took couple servings and I swear in two days I thought some one had filled my food with juice. I'll have to try Nolva some day.

 

[masonmarin18]

I thought it was so wierd when i found my liquid clomid. I took couple servings and I swear in two days I thought some one had filled my food with juice. I'll have to try Nolva some day.

What do you mean? It made your food taste better or something?

 

[MrKleen73]

If you can't keep your gains on a 12 mg Osta cycle you have some problems. LOL good luck with the recovery with the sarms that high anything over 10 starts to shut me down a little so very curious to see how your recovery goes. If you run from this to a cycle sarm run then into a cycle you may shut yourself down hard be very careful Rick.

 

[NuclearLaunch]

If you can't keep your gains on a 12 mg Osta cycle you have some problems. LOL good luck with the recovery with the sarms that high anything over 10 starts to shut me down a little so very curious to see how your recovery goes. If you run from this to a cycle sarm run then into a cycle you may shut yourself down hard be very careful Rick.

Yeah these sarms are interesting. I've never seen one used before. Letting Rick be my guinea pig.

 

[RickRock13]

If you can't keep your gains on a 12 mg Osta cycle you have some problems. LOL good luck with the recovery with the sarms that high anything over 10 starts to shut me down a little so very curious to see how your recovery goes. If you run from this to a cycle sarm run then into a cycle you may shut yourself down hard be very careful Rick.

Yeh thats kinda the same thing I'm thinking. I am not going to just stay on Osta from here on out into the S-4. I'm actually going to take a month off after PCT and just be on DAA (D-test) for most of that month. Then mid-February I am going to start my 8 week recomp with Osta/S-4. I am thinking of getting some bloodwork done too. I dont know if I will get it done before and after the 8 week run, but at least after probably.

Yeah these sarms are interesting. I've never seen one used before. Letting Rick be my guinea pig.

I've ran it at 12mg in PCT before so I pretty much know how it affects me, but Ive never ran it for 8 weeks (Ive done 6), and Ive certainly never ran it stacked with S-4, so that 8 week recomp I have planned will be uncharted territory. Hopefully will be a good experience. My prediction is that it will be. I am more excited for that that any cycle I've ran before. I plan to get pretty shredded during that run!


PCT DAY 6

Yesterdays workout went very well. Strength is holding strong. All lifts were still at the same as the previous week. My weight has dropped just a tad overall. I'm sitting at 176 this morning, so as long as I can hold that pound for 2 more days, I have the ab contest in the bag. The weight I have dropped has made me look better though. Abs look better and more defined. I am pretty sure my bodyfat is a ittle lower than I thought it initially was. I still need to check it, but I am pretty sure its around 9%, which would put me at just over a 1% gain for the entire cycle if thats true.

Another thing Ive noticed is the way I feel. I actually feel much better at this early point of PCT than expected. normally I start to feel this way around the end of the 2nd week into week 3. I dont know exactly what that means, but thought I would mention it. I feel recovery is on track very well.

I have a couple bottles pf AnaBeta that showd up yesterday. I got in on the erase Pro promo so I got those as part of that. I am thinking of throwing that in as well, but still undecided. What do you guys think? I am thinking of starting it also, but I dont know if I should now, or maybe start it with Forma at week 3...

Off to kill some shoulders...will update later!!

 

[mattrag]

About the AB, I dont know what effects you had on AB but I noticed it helped me keep mass. Didn't lean me out or anything but it kept me pretty strong. I wouldn't add it in though. Not yet. Im actually adding mine in AFTER pct.

 

[NuclearLaunch]

Keep the abs for the contest then the AB. Don't wanna risk it putting any weight on you and diaper dancing!

 

[RickRock13]

I probably will just run AnaBeta after PCT too. Then I just have to decide if I want to run one or both bottles...hmm

 

[NuclearLaunch]

I probably will just run AnaBeta after PCT too. Then I just have to decide if I want to run one or both bottles...hmm

Yeah I was thinking about picking some up also for my cycle soon to come but I don't know. Still debating whether or not to do so. I think after PCT would be best to help solidify gains.

As for the 1 or 2 bottles I have no clue. Never tried AB.

 

[RickRock13]

PCT DAY 7

Had a great workout this morning. Strength is doing great. I even hit a PR on DB shoulder presses. My first set I pushed up 70s for 16 reps and followed that up with 80s for 12 reps

Weight is holding well also. With the first week of PCT in the books, I can't believe how smooth it has been. This has been (so far) the easiest and most effective one yet. Its very early to make that statement, but generally I know how PCT is going to go after the first week.

 

[packers6211]

Wicked bro you going to behave during the Holidays or splurge lol It's so hard to stay strickt.

 

[mattrag]

Pct looking good eh?
Holidays. None of that here sadly.

 

[AaronJP1]

PCT DAY 4

Today's workout went excellent, and way better than i expected it to. The best part of today is my appearance. IMO I looked better today than any day on cycle. I looked very big and full, vascularity was way up, and appeared leaner and more ripped. I'm sure that its from dropping some water, but my weight is only down a half pound! Judging by what I've seen in the mirror today, I think I've actually gained less fat than I previously thought. I may have to recheck bodyfat soon to verify. I also managed to hit 2 PRs today, which is totally unexpected....

Chest/triceps

DB flat bench press
90sx15
100sx11 (PR)
100sx10x9
90sx10

DB flyes
55sx12 (PR)
60sx11(PR)x10x10
55sx11

Incline bench machine
115x15
135x10x9x9

Declined bench machine
225x10x9x9

Triceps push Downs
100x11
110x10
120x9
110x10

Triceps machine
200x9
190x10
180x10

Looking better than on cycle?
Nice man what more could u ask 4

 

[RickRock13]

Wicked bro you going to behave during the Holidays or splurge lol It's so hard to stay strickt.

The next couple days will be anything goes pretty much on diet, so i guess you could call it a splurge without going overboard

Pct looking good eh?
Holidays. None of that here sadly.

So far so good! Yeh I think I would be pretty unhappy without Christmas. Love this time of year

Looking better than on cycle?
Nice man what more could u ask 4

Hell yeh man! I cant complain!

 

[RickRock13]

PCT DAY 8

Well....after today's workout it is official. I am gaining strength in PCT!! Today was quads and some arm work. I hit some good PRs for me on squats. That has always been one of my weaker areas, but its starting to get a lot better. 265x8 is a new PR for me, so I'm happy with that.

Weight is down another half pound to 175.5 I need to hold at 175 or more until tomorrow to meet my challenge. I don't think it will be a problem but I am running out of breathing room quick!

Anyways, major pic update tomorrow that will also be for the challenge.

There will be a lot of very loose eating this weekend because of the holidays, but it will be back to business come Monday.

Quads/arms

Squats
135x15
225x12 (PR)
245x10 (PR)
265x8 (PR)
245x10x9
225x11x10

Leg extension
180x10x9
170x10x9
160x11x10

Weighted dips
BW+100x12x11x10

Skull crushers
85x15
105x10x9

Rope push Downs
130x13
150x10x10

Alternate DB curls
50sx10x10x10

Double bicep cable curls (double drop set)
70/60/50x10x9x10

 

[carpee]

man I gotta run some osta!

 

[dylangemelli]

im so glad to hear your gaining strength bro! thats awesome!! im happy for you... keep pushin harder like i am sure that you are and things will just keep getting better and better for you... have a great Christmas bro...

PCT DAY 8

Well....after today's workout it is official. I am gaining strength in PCT!! Today was quads and some arm work. I hit some good PRs for me on squats. That has always been one of my weaker areas, but its starting to get a lot better. 265x8 is a new PR for me, so I'm happy with that.

Weight is down another half pound to 175.5 I need to hold at 175 or more until tomorrow to meet my challenge. I don't think it will be a problem but I am running out of breathing room quick!

Anyways, major pic update tomorrow that will also be for the challenge.

There will be a lot of very loose eating this weekend because of the holidays, but it will be back to business come Monday.

Quads/arms

Squats
135x15
225x12 (PR)
245x10 (PR)
265x8 (PR)
245x10x9
225x11x10

Leg extension
180x10x9
170x10x9
160x11x10

Weighted dips
BW+100x12x11x10

Skull crushers
85x15
105x10x9

Rope push Downs
130x13
150x10x10

Alternate DB curls
50sx10x10x10

Double bicep cable curls (double drop set)
70/60/50x10x9x10

 

[RickRock13]

man I gotta run some osta!

Oh yeh man. Ostarine is the sh1t in PCT!! Makes keeping gains in both size and strength much easier IMO

im so glad to hear your gaining strength bro! thats awesome!! im happy for you... keep pushin harder like i am sure that you are and things will just keep getting better and better for you... have a great Christmas bro...

Thanks man! I hope you have a great Christmas too!

PCT DAY 9

A planned rest day, and holiday activities with the family. Normally a "burn day", but the diet will be holiday food....so pretty much anything and everything. Tomorrow will be more of the same also. So...later on I will get my pic up as promised. Todays weigh in for the challenge was 175.5, so it looks like I've met it with a half pound to spare.....just need to get my pic up later to verify that my abs are still there.

I hope you all have a great Christmas!! :cheers:

 

[MDiocre]

PCT DAY 4

Today's workout went excellent, and way better than i expected it to. The best part of today is my appearance. IMO I looked better today than any day on cycle. I looked very big and full, vascularity was way up, and appeared leaner and more ripped. I'm sure that its from dropping some water, but my weight is only down a half pound! Judging by what I've seen in the mirror today, I think I've actually gained less fat than I previously thought. I may have to recheck bodyfat soon to verify. I also managed to hit 2 PRs today, which is totally unexpected....

Chest/triceps

DB flat bench press
90sx15
100sx11 (PR)
100sx10x9
90sx10

DB flyes
55sx12 (PR)
60sx11(PR)x10x10
55sx11

Incline bench machine
115x15
135x10x9x9

Declined bench machine
225x10x9x9

Triceps push Downs
100x11
110x10
120x9
110x10

Triceps machine
200x9
190x10
180x10

I like the way you set up these pyramidish sets with a 4th one stepping back down some weight.

Ima try that today, always nice to mix up the routine!

 

[RickRock13]

Well here is my pic from today. I have a slight bit of bloat due to today's diet, but I've successfully met my goal for the challenge. And even better, is that I'm holding my size and gains into PCT. I couldn't ask for things to have gone any better so far

 

[AaronJP1]

Well here is my pic from today. I have a slight bit of bloat due to today's diet, but I've successfully met my goal for the challenge. And even better, is that I'm holding my size and gains into PCT. I couldn't ask for things to have gone any better so far

<img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=50082"/>

I wouldn't complain at all brah lol :thumbsup:



What's your thoughts on a fasting diet (getting all your cals in 8 hours?)

 

[RickRock13]

I wouldn't complain at all brah lol :thumbsup:

What's your thoughts on a fasting diet (getting all your cals in 8 hours?)

I love the intermittent fasting diet. Exactly why I've been doing it for about 10 months now

Its been effective for every goal for me. Cutting, recomping, and lean bulking (like this cycle). I can't think of eating any other way now that I'm used to it. I love having two meals a day at 1500-2k at each sitting :food:

 

[AaronJP1]

I love the intermittent fasting diet. Exactly why I've been doing it for about 10 months now

Its been effective for every goal for me. Cutting, recomping, and lean bulking (like this cycle). I can't think of eating any other way now that I'm used to it. I love having two meals a day at 1500-2k at each sitting :food:

Damn
Yeah it's tough for me.
Can you give me an insight on how some of you daily (2) meals look so I can get some get ideas?

Any shakes in the day?

What time do u fast? 12-8 is what I was thinking.

(some guy at the gym tried it and lost weight and strength and muscle)

 

[mattrag]

Damn
Yeah it's tough for me.
Can you give me an insight on how some of you daily (2) meals look so I can get some get ideas?

Any shakes in the day?

What time do u fast? 12-8 is what I was thinking.

(some guy at the gym tried it and lost weight and strength and muscle)

Probably does something like 12-8 eat, then from 8pm till 12noon the next day fast.

You will lose strength only if your workouts suffer from this type of eating. I train fasted most times if I train in the AM. I notice no strength boost while eating before working out. Only thing is now, since I have to ingest carbs I eat spaced out. Sheer volume destroys my poor digestive system (I am damaged goods when it comes to my gut health).

 

[AaronJP1]

Probably does something like 12-8 eat, then from 8pm till 12noon the next day fast.

You will lose strength only if your workouts suffer from this type of eating. I train fasted most times if I train in the AM. I notice no strength boost while eating before working out. Only thing is now, since I have to ingest carbs I eat spaced out. Sheer volume destroys my poor digestive system (I am damaged goods when it comes to my gut health).

Try some gut health :laughing;

Exactly what I thought 12-8.
I may give it another shot guess it shouldn't be too hard.

 

[mattrag]

Try some gut health :laughing;

Exactly what I thought 12-8.
I may give it another shot guess it shouldn't be too hard.

yup ran 2 bottles. I have 3 more coming. I will probably buy a couple more if nutra has it on sale.

Great work Rick! You motivate us all!

 

[AaronJP1]

yup ran 2 bottles. I have 3 more coming. I will probably buy a couple more if nutra has it on sale.

Great work Rick! You motivate us all!

U train fasted... What about BCAAs.
& Matt u should've got that stuff when u place that huge BF order, there's no sup shops over in Japan huh?

 

[RickRock13]

Yeh I eat from 12-8 each day. I workout fasted at 6 AM. I have 6g BCAA preworkout, 6g post workout, and then another 6g at 10 AM. If you lose strength or muscle on this diet it is because your calories are too low. The key is to keep your Cal's over maintenance on workout days (usually 10-30% over) and Cal's under on rest/cardio days (10-30% under). I've gotten very strong following IF using those guidelines

 

[AaronJP1]

Yeh I eat from 12-8 each day. I workout fasted at 6 AM. I have 6g BCAA preworkout, 6g post workout, and then another 6g at 10 AM. If you lose strength or muscle on this diet it is because your calories are too low. The key is to keep your Cal's over maintenance on workout days (usually 10-30% over) and Cal's under on rest/cardio days (10-30% under). I've gotten very strong following IF using those guidelines

Yeah just so rough the last time I tried it: couldn't stick to the pattern and got hungry... When u started u just dealt with it?

 

[mattrag]

U train fasted... What about BCAAs.
& Matt u should've got that stuff when u place that huge BF order, there's no sup shops over in Japan huh?

I already have 3 bottles of Gut health on me. Didnt order. They have.. but creatine is like $50 for 200gs... Whey protein taste horrid and costs around $100 for 6lbs...

I follow IF for the calories. I dont for the time frame for eating. My gut cant handle eating 150g protein in chicken breast at once... it's gotten better, but before I would crap it straight out... w/o even digesting it....

 

[RickRock13]

Yeah just so rough the last time I tried it: couldn't stick to the pattern and got hungry... When u started u just dealt with it?

It was only bad for a few days then my body really got adjusted. Now I rarely even get hungry until right before breaking fast, but I can put away some food when I do!

 

[AaronJP1]

I already have 3 bottles of Gut health on me. Didnt order. They have.. but creatine is like $50 for 200gs... Whey protein taste horrid and costs around $100 for 6lbs...

I follow IF for the calories. I dont for the time frame for eating. My gut cant handle eating 150g protein in chicken breast at once... it's gotten better, but before I would crap it straight out... w/o even digesting it....

I'm going to look at IF, I was under the impression u take in as many cals as u need personally and the timing was the most important.

 

[AaronJP1]

It was only bad for a few days then my body really got adjusted. Now I rarely even get hungry until right before breaking fast, but I can put away some food when I do!

Yeah. Figured that was an adjustment period. Guess I'll have to try it. When I don't eat I get BAD headaches

 

[RickRock13]

PCT DAY 12


Well.....its been a while since I've updated due to the bust holidays but things are still going great. After eating a little too much over the weekend, I decided to do a low Carb, lower Cal burn day yesterday to clean up some, and it did pretty good. My weight dropped off quite a bit to 174 this morning in a depleted state. I'm not worried about the drop off as a couple lbs is normal for me after a good burn day. After carbing up today I'm sure weight will go back to normal.

Today I hit chest and Triceps, and i am still as strong or stronger in every lift as I was on cycle. Not too bad for almost two weeks in! Vascularity was down and I looked a little flat, but that is expected from having almost zero carbs yesterday. My measurements are all still the same as on cycle, so everything is going great!

 

[mattrag]

Good stuff man! Lets keep it going into PCT!