Jesus man lookin ****en shredded. Sick job, great before and after pics. This is inspiration for my upcoming cycle.
DAY 42
Today is the last day on cycle. I feel I had a great run and this is by far the best cycle I have ran as far as changes to my body. Since this is the last day...I will follow this up with my summary of everything and the review of the cycle.
MASS I was very impressed and pleased with how this cycle has went for mass gains. I have ended this cycle about 2 lbs up from where I started, but have dropped a considerable amount of bodyfat. I;m not sure exactly how much bodyfat I dropped, but I am pretty sure I dropped a good 2% easy. I think in a bulk, this stack could have been amazing also.
FAT LOSS This cycle complimented my goals just like I had planned. I was going for a straight recomp, and that is exactly what I achieved. This cycle has accelerated my fat loss dramatically, and I couldnt be happier in that respect. I started somewhere slightly above 10%, and ended somewhere around 8%.
STRENGTH Strength started out a little slow at first, but started coming on pretty good starting the 3rd week. The strength gains were not quite as dramatic as when I ran Epi, but I was also in a huge caloric surplus at that time, so if I would have been bulking I may have had similar results. Even with that I matched or came near many of my PRs from last cycle, and I am now 30 lbs lighter...:sgrin:
SIDES I literally had absolutely zero sides on this cycle. I ran Helladrol all the way up to 125mg (and even 150 these last few days to finish the bottle off) and I've had zero issues. My libido remained fine the entire cycle also. BP was never a problem, and because of that I never even went off stims. I had a little lethargy a couple times, but that could also be attributed to possibly a lack of good sleep a couple times because it was spuratic.
OVERALL This cycle exceeded all my expectations. I set out with the goal to fully recomp by maintaining the same weight or even adding a few lbs while dropping the bodyfat. I achieved that and started the cycle at 170 while ending at 172. I would absolutely run this cycle again if I had the same goals in mind. It was textbook perfect for a recomp. The lean gains diet I am on really helped with it a lot, but the cycle just made everything I was doing even better. If and when I run this again, the only thing I would only change is I would pick up a 3rd bottle of Trenazone so I could run it at a higher dose. 1.5ml was a good effective dose, but I would have liked to run 2ml if I would have had enough to do that. With this cycle I look much better than I ever have. I have never even been close to this lean before, so I'm really happy with it. My vascularity is incredible, especially after a good pump. I would highly recommend this cycle to anyone with the same goals in mind...
NOW THE PICS!!
FIRST PIC IS TODAY 7/31/11
SECOND PIC WAS 7/19/11
THIRD AND FOURTH PIC WAS DAY BEFORE START OF CYCLE 6/19/11
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I am very happy with the results and the pictures. You can see the proof at how weel it all went. I am much more ripped and leaned out today than even 12 days ago at my last pic. I plan on continueing more of the same through PCT. I will probably bump cals just a tad, so fat loss my slow down some but it will not stop. I am going to try and hold any LBM gains I have made and continue to recomp. Hopefully my end of PCT pics will be even more impressive than my end of cycle pics. Dont go anywhere yet!! I still have PCT to go through and I plan on having some more gains and nice changes!!
WOW! that is unbelievable progress.
Thanks a ton Milas! I am very proud of my look right now.Hopefully in another 2-3 months I can use that as my next "before" picGood looking avi man...
Great plan on adding the 200 cals in. I have cut back some on cardio myself for now. Next week it will come back up a lil as I will have more faith in my own HPTA by then. I really don't think running into catabolism is going to be a problem here from low intensity cardio to moderate intensity cardio. The catabolism that comes from dieting is due to sustained caloric deficit. We never sustain it. We toggle the ON switch for anabolism WAY before the hormonal change from fasting to starving can even tell the body to start eating at the muscle. So that really should not be a concern for us.
Ostarine (MK-2866) right now. A normal dose is 12-25mg and I'm starting with 6mg for this week and maybe next, and will probably move to my normal dose of 12.5mg starting week 3 of PCT.what sarm are you using?
Yeh I think S4 was a little better for strength, but it is an unfair comparison between the two. I ran Ostarine in PCT coming right off cycle, and all the gains I got from it I was trying to hold and match with the Ostarine. By the time I got to S4 I was a couple weeks after PCT and fully recovered so I think the gains were more pronounced. S4 was definitely better in terms of fat loss though IMO.Kill it Rick.. You gonna run s4 again? And did you feel the s4 was better for strength?
Well said Kleen. If I find out that this is an effective dose, then it may be how I continue to run it. No need to ramp up if I don't have to. Sounds great to not waste product and risk shutdownExcellent, and yeah that increased sweating is from the Osta. We have to remember those studies were on older people yes, and people with lower testosterone but at 3mg a day they put on 4-6 lbs of LBM with the only exercise being tread mill. One of the subjects they spoke about was a woman so testosterone being low for her shouldn't have been a factor. Considering that and what we do lifting and what not even with optimal testosterone i would be hard pressed to think that 3 mg would add at least half that amount and probably more since we are actually lifting weight and eating to gain. Doubling that to 6mg as you are now, it is still going to give you an anabolic effect. We all just end up being a little compulsive and want more more more but I don't know that anything over 10mg is ever needed. Most people seem to want to ramp it up instead of seeing what the lowest most cost effective dose is. At what point does it reach saturation? If at 10mg which is about where people all seem to respond very well then 15, 20, 25 is only going to add minimal returns above that 10mg and a lot more waist as well as making it likely you will be somewhat suppressed or even shutdown at the 20-25mg range.
Now you have me curious I would love to see someone who is dependable follow sound training and diet run this at either 6mg or 10mg on it's own for 8-12 weeks and see how it turns out.
You said it best with the last part, risk shutdown. If you can fully recover and still have the androgenic benefits from SARMS, that is the golden ticket to staying lean in between cycles and technically year round if you do it say 2-3 cycles per year. I need to run this!Well said Kleen. If I find out that this is an effective dose, then it may be how I continue to run it. No need to ramp up if I don't have to. Sounds great to not waste product and risk shutdown
Exactly.Well said Kleen. If I find out that this is an effective dose, then it may be how I continue to run it. No need to ramp up if I don't have to. Sounds great to not waste product and risk shutdown
I think you would love them and would help with you shoulder and keep your hip healthy.You said it best with the last part, risk shutdown. If you can fully recover and still have the androgenic benefits from SARMS, that is the golden ticket to staying lean in between cycles and technically year round if you do it say 2-3 cycles per year. I need to run this!
I have about 3-4 almonds in the AM with my doses of PH or test boosters a tiny bit of fat to help coat the molecules so the acids don't destroy them.I'm interested in running the same cycle with lean gains and I'm wondering did u still pop your ph's while in fast mode or waited and had them with food
Wow wasn't aware of that. Doesn't sound right or people would dose it multiple times a day. I have no interest in S4 anything that can possibly mess with my eyes is not worth it. Hey Look at the buff blind dude over there he could pull some hot chicks with that body. Too bad he can't see, he left the bar with and fugged a walrus last night. NOPE!Been following for a long time and just chiming in say you are the man dude. Those are some SICK progress pics.
Also, do you take the ostarine during the fast? I've read S4 has a REALLY short half life, like 2.5-5hrs. If you took that on a bridge (or break) what would your dosing strategy be taking account of fasting?
Could be wrong, Anthony Roberts talked about it once on Super Human Radio. Yea the sides are pretty rough, I would definitely research it more b4 I dive in and ingest it. Thanks for the warnings though! Always gotta think about healthI have about 3-4 almonds in the AM with my doses of PH or test boosters a tiny bit of fat to help coat the molecules so the acids don't destroy them.
Wow wasn't aware of that. Doesn't sound right or people would dose it multiple times a day. I have no interest in S4 anything that can possibly mess with my eyes is not worth it. Hey Look at the buff blind dude over there he could pull some hot chicks with that body. Too bad he can't see, he left the bar with and fugged a walrus last night. NOPE!
Genetic mutation of the eye is not something I am messing with. Even if for most people it seems temporary. Can you imagine having your eyes cut out because of cancer because you knowingly used something that you knew could mess with your eyes? Any genetic mutation has a higher possibility of becoming cancerous. Not for me. Who cares about yellow tints or bad night vision. The mutation is what kills that for me. My bosses wife just had one of her eyes cut out from cancer a little while back. Will make you reevaluate a lot of things. Especially learning a lot of causes of cancer. I just wont tempt it especially when Osta adds more muscle and a good diet will drop more fat than S4 anyday.
I agree man. If I can reap the benefits of the Ostarine at 6mg then that changes a lot of things. It certainly makes the times between cycles as well as PCTs a lot more interesting!!You said it best with the last part, risk shutdown. If you can fully recover and still have the androgenic benefits from SARMS, that is the golden ticket to staying lean in between cycles and technically year round if you do it say 2-3 cycles per year. I need to run this!
Thanks for joining man. Its not too late either, the show is still going on!!I'm a little late to follow but great job Rick! Great motivation
Yeh S4 is better for strength and fat it seems, but its also the one with the sides unfortunately. I am definetely sold on Ostarine, but S4 is still in the air with me because of the sides.S4 is going to naturally be better for strength it has higher androgen levels. That is why it shuts you down more. Higher androgen levels are always better for strength than a just anabolic compound. Same reason it burns more fat than the Osta but people gain more muscle with the osta from what I have seen.
Exactly.
I think you would love them and would help with you shoulder and keep your hip healthy.
I'm interested in running the same cycle with lean gains and I'm wondering did u still pop your ph's while in fast mode or waited and had them with food
I took my first dose fasted preworkout, but I did take it with some fish oil to help absorption. My second dose was always about an hour to an hour and a half after my first meal.Sick log btw bro
I have always taken Ostarine on an empty stomach other than some fish oil with it, just like my PHs. You are right about the short half life of S4, which is why I'm considering it in a pulse.Been following for a long time and just chiming in say you are the man dude. Those are some SICK progress pics.
Also, do you take the ostarine during the fast? I've read S4 has a REALLY short half life, like 2.5-5hrs. If you took that on a bridge (or break) what would your dosing strategy be taking account of fasting?
Yeh man thats why I'm still on the fence about using S4 again, and why I havent ordered another bottle yet. I am still leaning towards getting it again and just doing the 3x week pulse like I planned and see how that goes.I have about 3-4 almonds in the AM with my doses of PH or test boosters a tiny bit of fat to help coat the molecules so the acids don't destroy them.
Wow wasn't aware of that. Doesn't sound right or people would dose it multiple times a day. I have no interest in S4 anything that can possibly mess with my eyes is not worth it. Hey Look at the buff blind dude over there he could pull some hot chicks with that body. Too bad he can't see, he left the bar with and fugged a walrus last night. NOPE!
Genetic mutation of the eye is not something I am messing with. Even if for most people it seems temporary. Can you imagine having your eyes cut out because of cancer because you knowingly used something that you knew could mess with your eyes? Any genetic mutation has a higher possibility of becoming cancerous. Not for me. Who cares about yellow tints or bad night vision. The mutation is what kills that for me. My bosses wife just had one of her eyes cut out from cancer a little while back. Will make you reevaluate a lot of things. Especially learning a lot of causes of cancer. I just wont tempt it especially when Osta adds more muscle and a good diet will drop more fat than S4 anyday.
Health has to be the first thing you think about before diving into something. Its hard to say what the long term effects of these SARMs are unfortunately.Could be wrong, Anthony Roberts talked about it once on Super Human Radio. Yea the sides are pretty rough, I would definitely research it more b4 I dive in and ingest it. Thanks for the warnings though! Always gotta think about health
Hey Rick, were you able to get the full 30 mL out of each bottle of Trenazone? With some liquids (research chems in particular) I always seem to come up with fewer doses than expected, even measuring with an oral syringe. Planning on running Trenazone next spring and may try to get by with two bottles.
opcorn:Show time???
I'm running Bridge along with some DAA and AnaBeta once PCT is done for a nice natty stack for a while. Only other thing I might throw in is S4, but still unsure of that.Good stuff Rick, I had about a week of the HCGen it was pretty nice that Testofen at high doses really brings the libido up. I know I enjoyed it. Thinking of buying some more T-Force 2 packs for my natural bridge, since I will be running EndoSurge during, and possibly even Bridge. I still have a few bottles at the house. Could do 500-1000 of T-Force or 500 TForce and a full serving of Bridge.
Hope you had a blast man!
Man if you are out in the sun all day aim for 3000 at least and have a glass of water in between alcohol if you can and or decide to have more. Eat a smoked turkey leg for me if there are any there...
Man turkey legs are so good.Yeh man it will be all water today, and the Turkey leg is on my list today actually! :food:
The Turkey leg was great and so was everything else I ate. Went overboard again and it shows. Scale said 169 this morning so I added another lb. So a 2 lb gain over the weekend that I need to clean up. My build day today will probably be a little lower Cal than normal as a result. Probably around 2600-2800. I do look bloated and less defined this morning, but I expect that things will even out over the coming daysAs long as they are not all dried out. Some just don't make them right, and that makes me sad. ..
What I've noticed is I look more bloated and sloppy on the weekend, but during the week when I'm lifting I lean out really well. I'm pretty much eating at maintenance or a little above on the weekends )) and a bit above maintenance during the week. I find the lifting really helps, and I'm not worrying as much about the weekends. Seems to be working for me and my goals of gaining lean mass...The Turkey leg was great and so was everything else I ate. Went overboard again and it shows. Scale said 169 this morning so I added another lb. So a 2 lb gain over the weekend that I need to clean up. My build day today will probably be a little lower Cal than normal as a result. Probably around 2600-2800. I do look bloated and less defined this morning, but I expect that things will even out over the coming days
Thanks man. The goal is to recomp to around 7%, then I will switch to a lean bulk from there. Should hopefully get there soon after PCT is finished:fingersx:166 looking 180, maybe more. That's impressive. What's your final goal to get to?
Have fun and come back richer broGreat job Rick! On a sidenote, I'm OFF TO VEGAS (yay!!!) for my Summer vacation (just finished Summer Semester), so wish me luck! Hopefully the Roulette table goes easy on me! I expect to see a 6%BF Rick when I get back, ya hear me!!! Just kidding! Great day to everyone on AM!