Votum 2.0 - NATADROL/HGHPRO/HEMAVOL/FRIENDS
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votum
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6/18
Today is bittersweet
A1: Decline Bench - 135lbs
x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x8.5, x9.5, x9+1 (10 sec rest)
Going to up the weight next time. Thinking of adding 10lbs...
A2: Chin-up - Body Weight
x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x7+3
Going to add a 10lb weight to these next time
B1: Incline DB fly - 30lb DBs. Done on the 70 degree ish incline
x12, x12, x8+4
I focused on form on these, stretched pretty good on the negative, maybe 6 second negs.
B2: B.O. Row: 110lbs - on the smith machine
x12, x12, x12
I like these, was actually surprised at doing 110 after being smoked.
I finished the main routine in 56 minutes. Fairly high intensity, only took 60 second rests for the first 7 supersets...had to kick it to 90 on the last 3 though.
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I got very close to 10x10 this week so I decided to do some more, threw the fat gripz on some stuff and did a little weird circuit training.
-Fat gripz on the decline BB bench
-just did the bar, with like a 15 second negative, 20 reps
-Ran .3 miles on treadmill, 6.0 speed 5 incline
-2.7 miles on the bike, alternating between 5 and 10 resistance, 130 RPM
^ that was one "circuit"
Second one:
fat gripz on some 15lb dbs
did incline flys, super wide and super slow, 20 reps
.35 miles tread, 6.5 spd, 7.5 incline
2.7 miles bike 120 rpm
third one:
.20 miles, 6.0 speed, 15 incline
.30 miles, 8.0 speed, 0 incline
cable forearm curls - 40lbs 10 reps or so. Was getting late
In: 0234 Out: 0415 Weight: 178
thats the bitter
I am guessing its all the milk weight though, as I was getting the better part of a gallon of milk in per day. I was also randomly popping some adipoxil samples to see how they worked lol. So what this tells me, is EAT MOAR
OH, and I heard a good motivational song today:
I've no clue if this is actually the song, but its Montgomery Gentry - It ain't about easy
Today is bittersweet
A1: Decline Bench - 135lbs
x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x8.5, x9.5, x9+1 (10 sec rest)
Going to up the weight next time. Thinking of adding 10lbs...
A2: Chin-up - Body Weight
x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x7+3
Going to add a 10lb weight to these next time
B1: Incline DB fly - 30lb DBs. Done on the 70 degree ish incline
x12, x12, x8+4
I focused on form on these, stretched pretty good on the negative, maybe 6 second negs.
B2: B.O. Row: 110lbs - on the smith machine
x12, x12, x12
I like these, was actually surprised at doing 110 after being smoked.
I finished the main routine in 56 minutes. Fairly high intensity, only took 60 second rests for the first 7 supersets...had to kick it to 90 on the last 3 though.
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I got very close to 10x10 this week so I decided to do some more, threw the fat gripz on some stuff and did a little weird circuit training.
-Fat gripz on the decline BB bench
-just did the bar, with like a 15 second negative, 20 reps
-Ran .3 miles on treadmill, 6.0 speed 5 incline
-2.7 miles on the bike, alternating between 5 and 10 resistance, 130 RPM
^ that was one "circuit"
Second one:
fat gripz on some 15lb dbs
did incline flys, super wide and super slow, 20 reps
.35 miles tread, 6.5 spd, 7.5 incline
2.7 miles bike 120 rpm
third one:
.20 miles, 6.0 speed, 15 incline
.30 miles, 8.0 speed, 0 incline
cable forearm curls - 40lbs 10 reps or so. Was getting late
In: 0234 Out: 0415 Weight: 178
thats the bitterI am guessing its all the milk weight though, as I was getting the better part of a gallon of milk in per day. I was also randomly popping some adipoxil samples to see how they worked lol. So what this tells me, is EAT MOAR
OH, and I heard a good motivational song today:
I've no clue if this is actually the song, but its Montgomery Gentry - It ain't about easy
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votum
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They are pretty sweet, at first I didn't like them, but now that I am using them a little more they are nice
You definitely start to feel the burn in your forearms WAY before the main muscle when you work with them, probably because you use much less weight. I've just been messing around with them though, I need to read up on some routines people have done.
John Smeton
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Sorry man was rushing and forgot to answer
Unfortunately fresh is not an option
The closest to fresh I can get is veggies and fruit, which are definitely not fresh, but they are not as affected by processing as meat is...
That spaghetti is not the norm, the chicken on top is much more the norm, I'd say about 50% of my meals are chicken and rice, 30% are some kind of fish filet and rice, 15% are some beef thing and rice, and 5% are something else, pasta.
Any advice?
chicken, beef and fish with rice looks fine.
I like more variety like when i get tired of rice Ill add beans for a while. or sweet potatoes, red potatoes.
your keeping it pretty simple which is good. how many grams of protein would you say your getting in per day?
a good whey protein food supplement or BCAA like recoverpro helps out a lot when rushed.
votum
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Per day I get at least 120 from meat
Probably about 20 or 25 from eggs
When they have cottage cheese I get 30g from that at breakfast time
Probably 20 or so a day from PB
50 from post workout shake, 50 from pre-bed shake
So total: ~295
Yeah I am also getting in 8-10g fish oil, I drink LG bc+eaa intra workout, and nutrapro/creatine/kwik karb immediately post.
Probably about 20 or 25 from eggs
When they have cottage cheese I get 30g from that at breakfast time
Probably 20 or so a day from PB
50 from post workout shake, 50 from pre-bed shake
So total: ~295
Yeah I am also getting in 8-10g fish oil, I drink LG bc+eaa intra workout, and nutrapro/creatine/kwik karb immediately post.
votum
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Morning is not going good...come in to work and like 4 computers are messed up...and my elevated account got disabled for some stupid audit...so I have to fill out a bunch of paperwork and run around all morning getting it signed by people...F*n annoying. And all I need to do is install a damn printer...
Red tape pisses me off so much
On top of that I missed chow this morning because I was sleeping so good I didn't want it to end, and I was going to go to the gym like 20 mins ago but my boss just dissappeared and I can't leave the iraqis here by themselves@!!!!!
I have a feeling a squat rack is going to get thrown at the ceiling when I finally get out of here
175 10x10 today...
Red tape pisses me off so much
On top of that I missed chow this morning because I was sleeping so good I didn't want it to end, and I was going to go to the gym like 20 mins ago but my boss just dissappeared and I can't leave the iraqis here by themselves@!!!!!
I have a feeling a squat rack is going to get thrown at the ceiling when I finally get out of here
175 10x10 today...
Coolazice
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Tear it up!!!!!
Killerkanadia
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get it, boah!
votum
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6/19
I am dissapointed in myself
A1: Squat - 175lbs - PERFECT FORM
x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10
This was too easy...I mean it wasn't cake, I felt the burn and all, but my form was perfect and I went deep every time...and was able to knock out all 100, despite adding 20 lbs from last week. I did some rest pausing on the last few sets...maybe 3 or 4 deep breaths worth, but while I was doing that I was leaning back as far as I could without tipping over lol
A2: Lying Leg Curl - 40lbs - Near perfect form, lol...
x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10
Again, these were a LOT easier than last week, despite adding 10 lbs. I bounced a few times, not because I was slacking, but becuase my legs are stronger than I though lol, so my curl would just slam into the safety deals and I'd have to use extra powah to stop it
B1: Deadlift - 155lbs - Perfect Form
x10, x7, x8
I could tell I was more beat than I felt doing these. Kept it light, and had planned on sets of 20, but it wasn't happening. Next week it will, even if I pass out
B2: Smith Calf Raise - 160lbs
x10, x20, x20
Wasn't feeling so hot the first set, but pushed through the others.
+.1 miles on treadmill (yeah right) and 2.9 on bike
In: 0200 Out: 0316 Weight: 178 or 179.5, scale couldn't make up its mind and someone was waiting. I didn't have chow today so there is a 1 meal deficit from my weight, probably a lb worth or so.
4 lbs lost the other day must have been all water (from the milk) and I am gaining again = happy
I am dissapointed in myself
A1: Squat - 175lbs - PERFECT FORM
x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10
This was too easy...I mean it wasn't cake, I felt the burn and all, but my form was perfect and I went deep every time...and was able to knock out all 100, despite adding 20 lbs from last week. I did some rest pausing on the last few sets...maybe 3 or 4 deep breaths worth, but while I was doing that I was leaning back as far as I could without tipping over lol
A2: Lying Leg Curl - 40lbs - Near perfect form, lol...
x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10
Again, these were a LOT easier than last week, despite adding 10 lbs. I bounced a few times, not because I was slacking, but becuase my legs are stronger than I though lol, so my curl would just slam into the safety deals and I'd have to use extra powah to stop it
B1: Deadlift - 155lbs - Perfect Form
x10, x7, x8
I could tell I was more beat than I felt doing these. Kept it light, and had planned on sets of 20, but it wasn't happening. Next week it will, even if I pass out
B2: Smith Calf Raise - 160lbs
x10, x20, x20
Wasn't feeling so hot the first set, but pushed through the others.
+.1 miles on treadmill (yeah right) and 2.9 on bike
In: 0200 Out: 0316 Weight: 178 or 179.5, scale couldn't make up its mind and someone was waiting. I didn't have chow today so there is a 1 meal deficit from my weight, probably a lb worth or so.
4 lbs lost the other day must have been all water (from the milk) and I am gaining again = happy
Killerkanadia
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Damn! Extra Powah!? Killed it man, good to see your numbers rising!
Tomahawk88
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Nice glad to see u killing the rubber lol.
ex-tightend83
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Kill it, yo!
votum
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I need to take some videos next time, critique and all, what I percieve as perfect may be the most jacked up thing ever lol
Thanks mate, yeah today suprised the hell out of me, I thought kicking squat up by 20 and curls up by 10 would smoke me, GVT says only go up by 5...I said "I'm dissapointed in myself" today because I could have done more!
Thanks man!
$$$
I just beat it near death today, give it 5 days to recover, then beat it again
Going to kill it on July 20th or so.Haha, love the initial pics! Good to see you keeping proper priorities, soldier.
I don't know what to make of this statement :bigeyes:
I'm in.
JK
Thank's man, and welcome! Next 33 days are weight killing time, 14 days after that is when the party log starts :sgrin:Been busy as hell today, all of our computers going down, and me being the only guy to fix them...got my elevated account deleted, so now I get to submit tickets for the stupidest ****, and piss off the guys who deleted my account while I wait for a new one :sgrin::sgrin:
Pretty much amounts to me spending 12 seconds writing an email like this:
"I need this printer installed on this computer remotely, because for some odd reason my account keeps getting deleted, thanks!"
Some guy spent like 3 hours doing it, muahahah
votum
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OK...I meant to go and run today, 4 miles or so. But my boss decided to be 2 hours late, and then sleep in the supply closet for 4 more hours, which totally screwed me over. Had he slept at his desk I could have left...
Instead I will explain a dream I had last night, I dosed 3 HGHPro, and had a crazy semi-lucid dream.
I was walking back to my trailer from work. Now, in Iraq, all the trailers are set up in a giant grid, every two trailers has a 20ish foot T wall surrounding them. They are set up in 5x5 grids in a giant rectangle, with a road on both sides and through the middle. The one I live in is about a 1/4 mile long, possibly a bit more.
So I am walking home. I hear gunfire, load up my pistol (I don't carry my rifle...freaking staff weeny...) and head towards it. I come out form between two walls and see about 12 Iraqis in khaki uniforms (not iraqi uniforms) shooting Kurdish civilians. They were just patrolling around in the trailer area shooting guys. The weird thing was, they weren't killing any US. All the U.S. soldiers were hiding behind barriers and stuff (staff weenies) and I went up to the Iraqis. They looked like they were going to shoot at me but then just went back to doing there thing, I grabbed my pistol, and then woke up!
I think I was about to go rambo though.
That was the second time EVER I have had a lucid dream
Instead I will explain a dream I had last night, I dosed 3 HGHPro, and had a crazy semi-lucid dream.
I was walking back to my trailer from work. Now, in Iraq, all the trailers are set up in a giant grid, every two trailers has a 20ish foot T wall surrounding them. They are set up in 5x5 grids in a giant rectangle, with a road on both sides and through the middle. The one I live in is about a 1/4 mile long, possibly a bit more.
So I am walking home. I hear gunfire, load up my pistol (I don't carry my rifle...freaking staff weeny...) and head towards it. I come out form between two walls and see about 12 Iraqis in khaki uniforms (not iraqi uniforms) shooting Kurdish civilians. They were just patrolling around in the trailer area shooting guys. The weird thing was, they weren't killing any US. All the U.S. soldiers were hiding behind barriers and stuff (staff weenies) and I went up to the Iraqis. They looked like they were going to shoot at me but then just went back to doing there thing, I grabbed my pistol, and then woke up!
I think I was about to go rambo though.
That was the second time EVER I have had a lucid dream
votum
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Must throw libido in here...everyone dissappeared?
Happy Father's Day by the way you old men with kids!
No kids from my failed marriage, which is a good thing, but I still can't wait to have a badass little son some day.
Libido, and I am off to the gym!
Happy Father's Day by the way you old men with kids!
No kids from my failed marriage, which is a good thing, but I still can't wait to have a badass little son some day.
Libido, and I am off to the gym!
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Killerkanadia
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It's sunday. AM shuts down for the weekend lol. Us sailors who work 7 days a week do not find that appealing.
Killerkanadia
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god that **** tree joke too me way too long.
John Smeton
Legend
Nice. looks good
votum
Well-known member
6/21
Again...dissapointed in myself. I am extremely impressed with natadrol though, and even though it's relatively small game, I am seeing strength gains that are borderline insane I did more dips with more weight than last week for example...
A1: Dips - BW+25
x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x8, x10
Yeah. I added 25lbs and ended up doing more...I hurt more too, but pushed it harder it felt like. Moving up again next week! Only going to up it to 35 though...thought about 45 but that may be asking for trouble
A2: Incline Hammer Curl - 30lbs
x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10
Didn't increase this one because I had issues last time, but I will up it next time.
B1: B.O. DB Lat Raise - 20lbs
x12, x12, x12
Increased this week, might increase next week also and then stick at 25 for awhile
B2: Seated DB Lat Raise - 20lbs
x12, x12, x12
Increased as well, same as B1.
Fat Gripz work:
DB concentration curls: 25lbs 3x10
BB Concentration curls: 45lbs 3x5
Super close grip bench: 45lbs 1x10 - each rep = 20seconds
I am also going to add a C set. C1 will be DB front raises, C2 will be Arnold presses. I feel like I am not hitting the delts good enough and adding that superset should be plenty
In: 0230 Out: 0347 Weight: 179.5
Solid workout today
HGHPro: I only took 2 caps today, wanted to test it out. Sleep went well, but I only made it 5 hours or so. I popped two more and ate some beef jerky when I woke up and then went back to sleep. Going to try 3 again tonight. If I can maintain 7+ hours on just 3 then that will be my golden spot, and the bottle will last longer
Natadrol: Considering bumping this up to 8 soon. 30 days left in the cycle and I have about 1.5 bottles still. Don't really want to end up with half of a bottle, what do you guys think? Also, I've been dosing it at 11PM, 10AM, and 2PM. Workout is at 2AM, is it too close to be taking the second dose before working out? If I move it up to 8/day then I can keep the dosing the same and add the extra 2 before I hit the gym.
Hemavol: This is a solid product. My pumps are insane while I am lifting, they go down pretty quick when I am done, but the vascularity stays for qite awhile.
Slin-Sane: I like this stuff. I don't know about pumps from it, but since removing dairy from the diet I have been losing BF and seeing more veins in my shoulder areas. I eat a lot of carbs, so this stuff is working. P-Slin is on the way too, and some people say it is stronger, we'll see
Again...dissapointed in myself. I am extremely impressed with natadrol though, and even though it's relatively small game, I am seeing strength gains that are borderline insane
I did more dips with more weight than last week for example...A1: Dips - BW+25
x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x8, x10
Yeah. I added 25lbs and ended up doing more...I hurt more too, but pushed it harder it felt like. Moving up again next week! Only going to up it to 35 though...thought about 45 but that may be asking for trouble
A2: Incline Hammer Curl - 30lbs
x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10, x10
Didn't increase this one because I had issues last time, but I will up it next time.
B1: B.O. DB Lat Raise - 20lbs
x12, x12, x12
Increased this week, might increase next week also and then stick at 25 for awhile
B2: Seated DB Lat Raise - 20lbs
x12, x12, x12
Increased as well, same as B1.
Fat Gripz work:
DB concentration curls: 25lbs 3x10
BB Concentration curls: 45lbs 3x5
Super close grip bench: 45lbs 1x10 - each rep = 20seconds
I am also going to add a C set. C1 will be DB front raises, C2 will be Arnold presses. I feel like I am not hitting the delts good enough and adding that superset should be plenty
In: 0230 Out: 0347 Weight: 179.5
Solid workout today
HGHPro: I only took 2 caps today, wanted to test it out. Sleep went well, but I only made it 5 hours or so. I popped two more and ate some beef jerky when I woke up and then went back to sleep. Going to try 3 again tonight. If I can maintain 7+ hours on just 3 then that will be my golden spot, and the bottle will last longer
Natadrol: Considering bumping this up to 8 soon. 30 days left in the cycle and I have about 1.5 bottles still. Don't really want to end up with half of a bottle, what do you guys think? Also, I've been dosing it at 11PM, 10AM, and 2PM. Workout is at 2AM, is it too close to be taking the second dose before working out? If I move it up to 8/day then I can keep the dosing the same and add the extra 2 before I hit the gym.
Hemavol: This is a solid product. My pumps are insane while I am lifting, they go down pretty quick when I am done, but the vascularity stays for qite awhile.
Slin-Sane: I like this stuff. I don't know about pumps from it, but since removing dairy from the diet
I have been losing BF and seeing more veins in my shoulder areas. I eat a lot of carbs, so this stuff is working. P-Slin is on the way too, and some people say it is stronger, we'll see stxnas
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LOL...it happens to the best of us.
Votum,
Crazy ass dream bro. Sounds like you woke up just in time. It really sounds like you and I respond very similarly to HGHpro. Keep playing around with the doses and let us know how it goes.
I recently received two bottles of Natadrol, so I'm interested to see how your final dosing goes.
DreamWeaver
Legend
Yah I have heard good things about Natadrol and strength...
ex-tightend83
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You're gonna love the strength increase.
Killerkanadia
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Not gonna lie, that would be hard for most people. I doubt i could complete 10 sets of 10 dips weighted
votum
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I think 3 is my sweet spot. I did 2 the other day and didn't sleep long enough (although it was still solid sleep) but with 3 I sleep straight through at least 7 hours. I think a lot has to do with the paper thin walls and loud as hell trailer mates, and me being on night shift though. Will continue testing when I get back to the states also, because dosing 3 will leave me with some extras $$
I was always skeptical about this type of stuff, but after reading tons of logs decided to just do it, and I am experiencing that "on cycle" feeling people always talk about...the Strength gain is undeniable, and I love it!
I'll be there! Yeah...I really like it though! Adding a 3rd superset to it too...maybe not for leg days, well see how next week goes lol. I want to get the most out of this stuff!
I think I am going to bump to 8 tomorrow, not to beat you or anything lol, just because I don't want a half bottle left over when I go home
Thanks man! I've always been really strong with certain movements, like I remember in HS I was a sophomore in weight class, and I would preacher curl like twice what the senior guys were doing, but I couldn't bench one plate lol. And I was a beast squatter/leg press.
With those dips though I think I did something to my chest lol. Center of my chest hurts when I breath, like my sternum is cracked or something, but I can't locate the pain by feel, just when I breath in. Hopefully it goes away.
I'm going to record the first and last sets of stuff next week, I need some form critique
votum
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6/22
OK.
Didn't have much time today because my current boss is a huge Dbag. He HAS to go to the gym at 0430 to beat the rush...because it gets soooo busy (IE, from 6 people to 20 people...theres like 40 treadmills...) and since I was actually working this morning I was running late, and couldn't do much.
6.0 miles on the bike
1.0 miles running on the tread.
I will be starting some fasted cardio tomorrow. I need to get my running skills back, so tomorrow I will do a 20 minute out and back I think. I am going to be doing this fasted stuff every day, and its going to be fasted for 2 reasons:
1. Less chance of losing muscle if I keep it under 30 minutes (I hope lol)
2. More chance of fat loss
I know fasted cardio is a sore spot, but if I keep the duration short it should be good.
Also, anyone have any ideas what kind of body type I am?
I want to say Meso. I was super small in school, weighed 119 when I did sports, shot up to 170 right after school, and as it stands right now I could probably gain or lose .5 pounds per day depending on what I am doing.
OK.
Didn't have much time today because my current boss is a huge Dbag. He HAS to go to the gym at 0430 to beat the rush...because it gets soooo busy (IE, from 6 people to 20 people...theres like 40 treadmills...) and since I was actually working this morning I was running late, and couldn't do much.
6.0 miles on the bike
1.0 miles running on the tread.
I will be starting some fasted cardio tomorrow. I need to get my running skills back, so tomorrow I will do a 20 minute out and back I think. I am going to be doing this fasted stuff every day, and its going to be fasted for 2 reasons:
1. Less chance of losing muscle if I keep it under 30 minutes (I hope lol)
2. More chance of fat loss
I know fasted cardio is a sore spot, but if I keep the duration short it should be good.
Also, anyone have any ideas what kind of body type I am?
I want to say Meso. I was super small in school, weighed 119 when I did sports, shot up to 170 right after school, and as it stands right now I could probably gain or lose .5 pounds per day depending on what I am doing.
DreamWeaver
Legend
Your body type... hmmm there is some meso and maybe a little ecto, time will tell as you're borderline.
CleetusVanDam
Member
I think you are on the meso end of the ecto spectrum, based on your pics and your listed weights from adolescence. True mesos often start a little chunky before puberty and then blocken up. Anxious to see how you respond to the low time fasted cardio, Im thinking about doing the same thing myself.
stxnas
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I had you beat. At 5'8, I remember being 115 pounds! I never weighed more than 155 in high school, but I quit growing after 5'8". Forty pounds on my frame while in HS was still decent, lol.
^^^I tend to agree with this too, assuming that you and I are indeed pretty similar. I've been up to almost 190, but it's really hard for me maintain that size. It's like a full time job, lol. I seem to gravitate around 170.
Are you really carb sensitive?
votum
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That's what I thought, but didn't know you could be both, guess it makes complete sense though. I could drop 3 pounds in a day pretty easily, without hurting myself too much, but gaining comes a bit harder, still not ridiculously hard.
Good food once I get out of here should help quite a bit too
Wow damn I don't remember being that small
I had to cut weight to get to 119, I started off at 125 I think. I can't tell if that second portion was directed at me or CVD. My goal is a solid 200 right now, I am sure it will keep going up once I reach it. I was stuck at 175 for a month or so, but I adjusted and I gaining again.
I can't track my macros, it's impossible over here due to the misinformation on the nutrition facts. For example (as if I haven't posted enough, lmao) I had chicken salad on top of rice today because the only options I had other than that were crab cakes, fried chicken, or meat loaf. Horrible. anyways, the chicken salad has 0 grams of protein (so says the chow hall) We all know that's not true. Tuna also has 0. My carb intake is fairly high right now, I would guess about 35 or 40% of my macros. Body comp is improving, so I want to say I am not carb sensitive, but I honestly won't be able to tell until I get back to the states and can reliably track my macros (sites like fitday help a bit...but our food is so processed that it is still not accurate)
On a side note, I did my 20 minute run this morning. I made it about 2.5 miles I want to say, but I need to take the car out there and drive it ina sec to check. It felt real good. I haven't ran outside in months, so thought I would be hurting, but no, it just felt good
My goal there is a sub 20 minute 3 mile again. As much as I would love ot go out on 10 mile runs, I know that is just too counter-productive. Hell, even 20 minutes each day might be counter-productive, but we'll see Didn't check my heart rate, but I think it stayed low, which is good, and means all the bike cardio is paying off.
JoHNnyNuTZ
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Keeping me pumped Votum. Good stuff. How about checking out my newest deveopement.
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stxnas
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I was agreeing that you're probably somewhere between ecto/meso. You might be a little closer to the meso end than I am though.
Yeah, 115 was bean pole skinny, but I have a really small frame. I've always wanted to reach 200 too, but when I was about 190 random people I didn't even know were constantly making comments like, "What kind of roids are you on" or "You must be on some good gear." I wasn't comfortable with that, so I haven't really gone over about 180 since then.
That's tough with your chow. I guess using something like fitday will at least give you a round about guess of where you stand though. So how long are you stuck on graveyard?
Yeah, 115 was bean pole skinny, but I have a really small frame. I've always wanted to reach 200 too, but when I was about 190 random people I didn't even know were constantly making comments like, "What kind of roids are you on" or "You must be on some good gear." I wasn't comfortable with that, so I haven't really gone over about 180 since then.
That's tough with your chow. I guess using something like fitday will at least give you a round about guess of where you stand though. So how long are you stuck on graveyard?
John Smeton
Legend
Even if the nutrition facts are off, it is still better than not counting in my opinion. When you count you can know exactly what you are doing with the diet.
Since you are 5'9 it is easier for you to pack on muscle in a shorter period of time than say someone a few inches taller.
Since you are 5'9 it is easier for you to pack on muscle in a shorter period of time than say someone a few inches taller.
ex-tightend83
Well-known member
Man, phuck 'em. Take it as flattery. Even if you ARE/WERE on roids, 1)it's YOUR business and 2) you still have to put in the work. I've had smart-asses ask me, "OK, so do you play football or do you just use steroids?" I used to just smile and say, "Whichever one you prefer to believe." Now, with my attitude/demeanor, I find it easier to just ignore 'em. Think what Kleen probably gets with his level of definition.
votum
Well-known member
6/23
Started 8 Natadrol today so I won't have a half bottle leftover.
Fasted morning Cardio = 2.25 miles running, 20:00 (took about 7G protein, because I have read a little will help you not lose muscle)
It was a damned good day, whooped my ass and I did better than I thought I would with the weight increase.
A1: Decline BB Bench - 150 (thats +15)
x10, x10, x10, x8, x9, x6.5, x8, x7, x8, x5
I was expecting to have to drop the weight halfway into this, but manned up and kept going. I also tripled the amount of weight I was supposed to use. I felt like if I increased by only 5lbs, I would do all 100 reps, and the same next week, etc, and quickly outpace the added weight, so I just did 15. Anticipating 5 or 6 full sets next week. If I make all 10....then natadrol is scary lol.
A2: Chinup - Body Weight +10
x10, x10, x10, x10, x8, x7, x8, x7, x8, x7
These were hard as you can see Expecting the same as decline though next week. Some guy was doing rotator cuff work on the cables with the chin bar I like, we were sharing the machine and he commented on how good my form was
B1: Incline DB Fly - 30lbs
35x8, 30x8, 30x8
I was smoked. Tried to increase this but no way, I hit failure on 35s. I think I will leave it at 30...that's a respectable number for someone my size I think.
B2: One arm DB row - 60lbs
x12, x12, x12
I like rows. Started hitting failure on last rep of last set. Kind of jerked it up
C1: Flat Bench - Bar lol
x10, x10, x10
I overestimated myself Started doing 95 and was burnt. I dropped the weight off, and assumed the widest grip possible, hands touching the rack. Did 3x10 super slow super focused sets...and hurt every single time.
C2: Machine Fly - 50lbs
x8, x7, x6
As you can see I was at failure Good thing though, means I worked my chest hard today. Oh I did the flies with my hands on the pad and elbows up.
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Then I did 100 situps, 2 sets of weighted oblique crunch dip things, some side to side pushups, and 4.0 miles on the bike (slowish)
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Time in: 0215 Time out: 0342 Weight: 180.5 ish
ASGT Redemption review:
As you all know I hated the flavor of ASGT with a passion. Well. It has grown on me. Not so much that I will make it a staple, but if it is in a flash sale I will buy it lol. Today my aggression was up, my focus and motivation was nuts (part hemavol) and I just kept going and going. I had some extra time and did a bunch of extra crap. I know everyone already loves it an such, but the flavor does grow on you if there's anyone who hates it. I can chug it down and not feel like chucking right away
Started 8 Natadrol today so I won't have a half bottle leftover.
Fasted morning Cardio = 2.25 miles running, 20:00 (took about 7G protein, because I have read a little will help you not lose muscle)
It was a damned good day, whooped my ass and I did better than I thought I would with the weight increase.
A1: Decline BB Bench - 150 (thats +15)
x10, x10, x10, x8, x9, x6.5, x8, x7, x8, x5
I was expecting to have to drop the weight halfway into this, but manned up and kept going. I also tripled the amount of weight I was supposed to use. I felt like if I increased by only 5lbs, I would do all 100 reps, and the same next week, etc, and quickly outpace the added weight, so I just did 15. Anticipating 5 or 6 full sets next week. If I make all 10....then natadrol is scary lol.
A2: Chinup - Body Weight +10
x10, x10, x10, x10, x8, x7, x8, x7, x8, x7
These were hard as you can see
Expecting the same as decline though next week. Some guy was doing rotator cuff work on the cables with the chin bar I like, we were sharing the machine and he commented on how good my form was B1: Incline DB Fly - 30lbs
35x8, 30x8, 30x8
I was smoked. Tried to increase this but no way, I hit failure on 35s. I think I will leave it at 30...that's a respectable number for someone my size I think.
B2: One arm DB row - 60lbs
x12, x12, x12
I like rows. Started hitting failure on last rep of last set. Kind of jerked it up
C1: Flat Bench - Bar lol
x10, x10, x10
I overestimated myself
Started doing 95 and was burnt. I dropped the weight off, and assumed the widest grip possible, hands touching the rack. Did 3x10 super slow super focused sets...and hurt every single time.C2: Machine Fly - 50lbs
x8, x7, x6
As you can see I was at failure
Good thing though, means I worked my chest hard today. Oh I did the flies with my hands on the pad and elbows up.----------------------------------------------------
Then I did 100 situps, 2 sets of weighted oblique crunch dip things, some side to side pushups, and 4.0 miles on the bike (slowish)
----------------------------------------------------
Time in: 0215 Time out: 0342 Weight: 180.5 ish
ASGT Redemption review:
As you all know I hated the flavor of ASGT with a passion. Well. It has grown on me. Not so much that I will make it a staple, but if it is in a flash sale I will buy it lol. Today my aggression was up, my focus and motivation was nuts (part hemavol) and I just kept going and going. I had some extra time and did a bunch of extra crap. I know everyone already loves it an such, but the flavor does grow on you if there's anyone who hates it. I can chug it down and not feel like chucking right away
votum
Well-known member
I need to put my P in a V and then B my L on some T's
2 points for whoever guesses what that's from. Also, you bet your ass I will in about 30 days
Hi.
Hi.
Hi.
Hi.
Uh...do you mind not saying that?
You can gag me...do you want to gag me?
Kind of now...
hahahaha
FYI no run this morning, it is leg day and that would be plain stupid.
Libido check since I just took ASGT, Natadrol and T911.
2 points for whoever guesses what that's from. Also, you bet your ass I will in about 30 days
Hi.
Hi.
Hi.
Hi.
Uh...do you mind not saying that?
You can gag me...do you want to gag me?
Kind of now...
hahahaha
FYI no run this morning, it is leg day and that would be plain stupid.
Libido check since I just took ASGT, Natadrol and T911.
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Killerkanadia
Well-known member
Penis, Vagina, Blow, Load, Tits.
I Win.
Edit* oh, you said where it's from. It's from my personal journal.
I Win.
Edit* oh, you said where it's from. It's from my personal journal.