The New Product Release Thread

Segansational said:
Haven't heard of them before, but I like the nice clean aesthetic of their labels. Question, CBD says full spectrum, but ingredients says from hemp. I thought full spectrum meant it was not hemp derived, or am I wrong here? Haven't looked into the details of CBD in depth yet.
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2 scoops each of Lemon Purple Wraath, Cherry Lime Green Might, & Cherry Lime Karbolyn w/ a 1/4tsp of Morton Lite Salt & 10g collagen peptides - yeahhh buddy!
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Hyde said:
2 scoops each of Lemon Purple Wraath, Cherry Lime Green Might, & Cherry Lime Karbolyn w/ a 1/4tsp of Morton Lite Salt & 10g collagen peptides - yeahhh buddy!
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I haven't used purple wraith for years...I need to get some!!!
 
thebigt said:
I haven't used purple wraith for years...I need to get some!!!
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Kinda funny how once the literature busted out everyone selling BCAAs many are scrambling to get an EAA product out. Meanwhile Controlled Labs has been offering a proven EAA ergogen blend forever.

Resolve10 said:
2 scoops Green Might? Do you drink that all during (you’ve probably posted in your log but I must have missed it).
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Yep, in about 64oz water over 2 hours or so. That water & electrolyte combo is just personal preference - could easily use less water or further dilute based on needs.
 
Old Witch said:
It’s a monoamine oxidase inhibitor. It makes the stimulants last much longer in the system. Which is good for people who want to retain that wakefulness for some hours after training, rather than having to take an afternoon nap.
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Its a weakly competitive MOA-B inhibitor that has an elimination half-life of like 20 mins... aint doing squat for prolonging wakefullness hours later.
 
New MP Cookies coming this weekend.
Never been a fan after they protein spiked their products in the past

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The options fans of the brand will have to choose from are a traditional Peanut Butter, Birthday Cake, and a delicious Triple Chocolate.

New Reign Energy Drinks being found in Safeway and other grocery stores

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Its options are Carnival Candy, Peach Fizz, Melon Mania, Razzle Berry, Sour Apple, and Lemon Hdz.

The main ingredients in the upcoming Reign sports drink include the three branched-chain amino acids better known as BCAAs, CoQ10, and electrolytes. Natural caffeine is also in the mix at a pretty solid dose of 300mg per can to give you a good hit of energy.
 
The main ingredients in the upcoming Reign sports drink include the three branched-chain amino acids better known as BCAAs, CoQ10, and electrolytes. Natural caffeine is also in the mix at a pretty solid dose of 300mg per can to give you a good hit of energy.
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They picked these up at Circle K. Obviously an attempted Bang copy. Tried the Melon yesterday. It's decent, and they are on an introductory special.
 
Here you go:

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Axe and Sledge GDA
~$50, but Seth is going to drop a coupon code tonight. I would guess around $35-40
For price. its hard to beat Predator from Chaos and Pain at around $14/Bottle currently on BOGO and 33% OFF
 
The Solution said:
Well that is you "Thinking"
So where is the literature or scientific backing of you need at least 30g of carbs for it to matter?
That is like me saying you need at least 20g of protein per meal for it to matter... doesn't really make a whole lot of sense depending on the individual, how much they weigh, how much protein they consume in a 24 hour period, do they have an increased P-Ratio from other things they take, how many meals they eat in a day and how they spread out their intake... etc

That is simply your preference. Does not mean 30g of carbs in an intra-workout is a concrete standard.. or else every company would put at least 30+g in their products if there was more research behind that specific number allotment.

In your shoes Grab EAA Max or your EAA choice of preference and add the carb source that suits you best (HBCD, Karbolyn) etc.
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I get it. I gave my opinion, based on what I have learned through reading and my experiences. No one really NEEDS a supplement unless it is addressing a deficiency, then it’s a need. Supplements like these are for those trying to maximize nutrient timing to improve performance and recovery. These are for not for the average gym goer. My thinking 30 grams of carbs as a starting point was not just random: Invalid Link Removed
 
EMPIREMIND said:
I get it. I gave my opinion, based on what I have learned through reading and my experiences. No one really NEEDS a supplement unless it is addressing a deficiency, then it’s a need. Supplements like these are for those trying to maximize nutrient timing to improve performance and recovery. These are for not for the average gym goer. My thinking 30 grams of carbs as a starting point was not just random: Invalid Link Removed
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Research that has no dietary protocol
Research that has no exercise protocol
Research that has no control group
Research that doesn't specify what type of training the trainees were doing. For all we know they could be training at a 5-6 RPE.

When you don't have any consistent variables in your research its hard to draw a conclusion based off a lack of evidence. Anyone can workout 30-60 minutes or 1-2 hours . There is a vast difference when you factor in intense training, moderate training, the average joe training, endurnace based training. This is where specific protocol's, dietary protocol's, trianing techniques all play a factor on what is needed to perform at an optimal level, and what is needed to train like an average joe who goes through the motions.

Are these people training in a fed state?
Are they training in a fasted state?
Folks who train fasted and then throw in intra-workout carbs will immediately feel a drastic differnce, those who are fed may not even see a change in performance, recovery, or endurnace since they are still having stored glycogen from a pre-workout meal.

The outlined article is very cut and dry with no specifics. To take anything off that article is not really proving much merit to anything in regards to carbohydrates and their benefits. I can take any chump off the street who eats 1 time a day in a deficit and then throw in 50g of carbs intra-workout, of course, he will train harder

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you can take someone who is well fed (2-3 meals prior to training, a large carbohydrate dose pre-workout, and then train with or without carbs) This would be far more specific and understanding to the current debate at hand. When there is no outline for what you are researching there is no consistent variables to gauage and feedback or progress.


If you are consuming enough carbs throughout the day to replenish glycogen levels, then you will likely not benefit from consuming carbohydrates during your workout.

Some examples:
If you are someone who must train upon waking and cannot perform optimally on a full stomach, you may experience a boost in performance by drinking a fast digesting carbohydrate + BCAA shake throughout your workout.
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You may also benefit from intra-workout carbohydrate consumption if your training sessions are very high in volume, intensity, and length. A high level Crossfit athlete may fall into this category.
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Finally, if you are an endurance athlete that exercises for 90 minutes or longer then you may also benefit from intraworkout carbohydrate.

The most important factor in your nutrition is total daily calories and macronutrients. Focus on consistently hitting your macronutrient ranges; this is your bread and butter. Once you are able to be consistent with this, then you can begin to think about nutrient timing. Placing your carbohydrates pre and post training session is generally a good idea; this is when your body is most sensitive to them and when they can be utilized best. However, do not go over your daily calories and macros to have a pack of Sour Patch Kids around your training session. As with most things, perfect the big picture before you start to worry about the minute details.
 
The Solution said:
Here you go:

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Axe and Sledge GDA
~$50, but Seth is going to drop a coupon code tonight. I would guess around $35-40
For price. its hard to beat Predator from Chaos and Pain at around $14/Bottle currently on BOGO and 33% OFF
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SPRING33 will get you 33% off your entire purchase :)
 
The Solution said:
Here you go:

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Axe and Sledge GDA
~$50, but Seth is going to drop a coupon code tonight. I would guess around $35-40
For price. its hard to beat Predator from Chaos and Pain at around $14/Bottle currently on BOGO and 33% OFF
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That’s hardly a GDA. That’s just straight up blocking absorption. You will **** out 90% of whatever you ingest after taking that. It’s basically a remake of BSN Cheaters Relief and those ingredients if used daily will QUICKLY deplete essential vitamin and minerals from your body
 
chedapalooza said:
That’s hardly a GDA. That’s just straight up blocking absorption. You will **** out 90% of whatever you ingest after taking that. It’s basically a remake of BSN Cheaters Relief and those ingredients if used daily will QUICKLY deplete essential vitamin and minerals from your body
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That’s the exact product it reminded me of!
 
chedapalooza said:
That’s hardly a GDA. That’s just straight up blocking absorption. You will **** out 90% of whatever you ingest after taking that. It’s basically a remake of BSN Cheaters Relief and those ingredients if used daily will QUICKLY deplete essential vitamin and minerals from your body
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So wait, it has white kidney bean as an amalyse inhibitor and then extra amalyse added separately? Bulk Gymnema, Chitosan or Glucomannan are super cheap. I would rather go after a carb-targeted product for a higher carb meal and a fat-targeted product for a higher-fat meal.
 
Not sure what big deal with axe and sledge is, would not buy any of their supps all underdosed.. they been promoting heavily.. the brand is not top notch but a newbie acting like a heavyweight, they got long way to go
 
00A said:
Not sure what big deal with axe and sledge is, would not buy any of their supps all underdosed.. they been promoting heavily.. the brand is not top notch but a newbie acting like a heavyweight, they got long way to go
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Is there a brand you do like?
 
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DEVANS89 said:
Is there a brand you do like?
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Yeh plenty of brands out their that deliver excellent supps nutrabio,pes,ghost, olympus labs evomuse,musclesport etc, its not about liking a brand that makes biggest noise and most fancy marketing.. i think you guys think i hate eveything because recently there been a few bad releases on the new products threads..
 
Hyde said:
Kinda funny how once the literature busted out everyone selling BCAAs many are scrambling to get an EAA product out. Meanwhile Controlled Labs has been offering a proven EAA ergogen blend forever.



Yep, in about 64oz water over 2 hours or so. That water & electrolyte combo is just personal preference - could easily use less water or further dilute based on needs.
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Yeah it’s took a while for EAA to become the superior choice, I always remember back years ago seeing pictures of one of sponsored guys I think it was nick edge xxx(used to be on B.B.com) or some name along those lines scooping from all the different cl coloured tubs, probably the first time I bought products because I liked the look of the tubs :)

Wonder what happened to that guy, I remember his abs were nuts. Him and chicken tuna (bring back the memories) were the in thing then.
 
The Solution said:
Ghost Maragraita Amino V2 Finalized
Chef Bob pauses Tony Hawk
New Shaker of the Month (Cubs Inspiration for Opening Day) --> First Thursday in April
Ghost Sonic Cherry Limeade drops 3/28/19 ---> 1 Eastern/12PM Central



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Chef bob OG! The guy was pretty happy to get a food package from you :)
 
Muckl3 said:
Yeah it’s took a while for EAA to become the superior choice, I always remember back years ago seeing pictures of one of sponsored guys I think it was nick edge xxx(used to be on B.B.com) or some name along those lines scooping from all the different cl coloured tubs, probably the first time I bought products because I liked the look of the tubs :)

Wonder what happened to that guy, I remember his abs were nuts. Him and chicken tuna (bring back the memories) were the in thing then.
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Lol my life is colored tubs and bottles. Breakfast today: down 3 caps Red Light & 2 caps Blue Sugar, set out 2 caps Orange Oximega fishoil & 3 tabs Orange Health iQ, shake up a scoop of Orange Triad + Greens powder to drink, & make my bowl of proats.

Woof!
 
The Solution said:
Ghost Maragraita Amino V2 Finalized
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New Shaker of the Month (Cubs Inspiration for Opening Day) --> First Thursday in April
Ghost Sonic Cherry Limeade drops 3/28/19 ---> 1 Eastern/12PM Central



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Give me 8g lcitulline - clinical dose
Remove norvaline
Then im buying this bad boy
 
N2ofusion said:
So wait, it has white kidney bean as an amalyse inhibitor and then extra amalyse added separately? Bulk Gymnema, Chitosan or Glucomannan are super cheap. I would rather go after a carb-targeted product for a higher carb meal and a fat-targeted product for a higher-fat meal.
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You mean like GlycoShield and LipoShield
 
danielmoo said:
I was just thinking to myself how much we need another 450mg+ caffeine PWO
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HPS Inērtia will have FAR less than that in 2 scoops. Companies overdose the caffeine so you feel SOMETHING, as opposed to putting in quality stims that work at proper dosages. When you have the right combo of stims at the right amounts, you don’t need all the caffeine to make an effective product. Again, comes back to the foundation of how I formulate HPS products, to actually work, and keep you from wasting money as a consumer. It’ll be marketed mainly as a fat loss beverage but many will find it very useful as a pre workout and highly stackable with non stim pre’s and pump products. Which, yes, HPS will make eventually. And no my pre/pump will not have vaso6 or overdosed amounts of glycerol mono etc.
 
chedapalooza said:
HPS Inērtia will have FAR less than that in 2 scoops. Companies overdose the caffeine so you feel SOMETHING, as opposed to putting in quality stims that work at proper dosages. When you have the right combo of stims at the right amounts, you don’t need all the caffeine to make an effective product. Again, comes back to the foundation of how I formulate HPS products, to actually work, and keep you from wasting money as a consumer. It’ll be marketed mainly as a fat loss beverage but many will find it very useful as a pre workout and highly stackable with non stim pre’s and pump products. Which, yes, HPS will make eventually. And no my pre/pump will not have vaso6 or overdosed amounts of glycerol mono etc.
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Also no need to put BA or creatine in the pre workout...when will companies stop doing this...
 
TrainerTone said:
Will not purchase any pre with citrulline malate. Give me pure L cit or nothing
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if the formula is on point malate isn't a game changer for me, but I definitely prefer l-cit....fortunately supp companies seem to be listening to consumers and are going l-cit with no malate.
 
chedapalooza said:
HPS Inērtia will have FAR less than that in 2 scoops. Companies overdose the caffeine so you feel SOMETHING, as opposed to putting in quality stims that work at proper dosages. When you have the right combo of stims at the right amounts, you don’t need all the caffeine to make an effective product. Again, comes back to the foundation of how I formulate HPS products, to actually work, and keep you from wasting money as a consumer. It’ll be marketed mainly as a fat loss beverage but many will find it very useful as a pre workout and highly stackable with non stim pre’s and pump products. Which, yes, HPS will make eventually. And no my pre/pump will not have vaso6 or overdosed amounts of glycerol mono etc.
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I am still a fan of vaso6, I get good results from it.
 
Robert5891 said:
Also no need to put BA or creatine in the pre workout...when will companies stop doing this...
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I want them both in my Pre !! We all look for something different !!
 
thebigt said:
I am still a fan of vaso6, I get good results from it.
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Not knocking the ingredient, there’s just an over abundance of products using it. I want HPS products to A) be as unique as possible and B) limit overlapping ingredients to avoid dangerous / unnecessary amounts bc let’s face it, we all use a variety of brands and products and it’s very easy to over do some ingredients without even realizing it.. for example vitamin d and b Vitamins, and even carnitine... I recently had bloodwork showing abnormally high levels and when I went through my supp stash I realized I was taking way too much and subsequently had to stop using several products.
 
thebigt said:
if the formula is on point malate isn't a game changer for me, but I definitely prefer l-cit....fortunately supp companies seem to be listening to consumers and are going l-cit with no malate.
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Yea seems like more and more companies are switching over to l cit which is great. Just wonder when every company will get the memo
 
Didn't everyone pretty much agree that we don't need Beta Alanine and Creatine in pre's? What is the deal with this.

Reminds me of every test booster being crammed with DAA.
 
TommyTuffGuy said:
Didn't everyone pretty much agree that we don't need Beta Alanine and Creatine in pre's? What is the deal with this.

Reminds me of every test booster being crammed with DAA.
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I vote Put Them In There !!
 
Resolve10 said:
I mean as long as you are getting the amount of Citrulline it doesn't really matter if it is Citrulline Malate or just Citrulline, just requires a higher dose. Malic acid helps with flavoring so it may be included for that in lots of products even if it is just added on its own.
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Mike Arnold has pointed out that there’s a beneficial buffering effect during training the Malate provides you don’t get with pure L-Citrulline, so a correspondingly equal (higher) dose of of Cit Mal has more benefits too. But if people don’t know that and they only want to buy L-Cit most companies will need to sell what folks wanna buy. What can you do.

I will say, if anybody used USP Labs Max Reps, you know the beauty of Cit Mal. If you take enough, it works well.
 
Hyde said:
Mike Arnold has pointed out that there’s a beneficial buffering effect during training the Malate provides you don’t get with pure L-Citrulline, so a correspondingly equal (higher) dose of of Cit Mal has more benefits too. But if people don’t know that and they only want to buy L-Cit most companies will need to sell what folks wanna buy. What can you do.

I will say, if anybody used USP Labs Max Reps, you know the beauty of Cit Mal. If you take enough, it works well.
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Max reps was awesome.
 
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