Is there a brand you do like?Not sure what big deal with axe and sledge is, would not buy any of their supps all underdosed.. they been promoting heavily.. the brand is not top notch but a newbie acting like a heavyweight, they got long way to go
Is there a brand you do like?Not sure what big deal with axe and sledge is, would not buy any of their supps all underdosed.. they been promoting heavily.. the brand is not top notch but a newbie acting like a heavyweight, they got long way to go
Yeh plenty of brands out their that deliver excellent supps nutrabio,pes,ghost, olympus labs evomuse,musclesport etc, its not about liking a brand that makes biggest noise and most fancy marketing.. i think you guys think i hate eveything because recently there been a few bad releases on the new products threads..Is there a brand you do like?
Yeah it’s took a while for EAA to become the superior choice, I always remember back years ago seeing pictures of one of sponsored guys I think it was nick edge xxx(used to be on B.B.com) or some name along those lines scooping from all the different cl coloured tubs, probably the first time I bought products because I liked the look of the tubsKinda funny how once the literature busted out everyone selling BCAAs many are scrambling to get an EAA product out. Meanwhile Controlled Labs has been offering a proven EAA ergogen blend forever.
Yep, in about 64oz water over 2 hours or so. That water & electrolyte combo is just personal preference - could easily use less water or further dilute based on needs.
Chef bob OG! The guy was pretty happy to get a food package from youGhost Maragraita Amino V2 Finalized
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New Shaker of the Month (Cubs Inspiration for Opening Day) --> First Thursday in April
Ghost Sonic Cherry Limeade drops 3/28/19 ---> 1 Eastern/12PM Central
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Lol my life is colored tubs and bottles. Breakfast today: down 3 caps Red Light & 2 caps Blue Sugar, set out 2 caps Orange Oximega fishoil & 3 tabs Orange Health iQ, shake up a scoop of Orange Triad + Greens powder to drink, & make my bowl of proats.Yeah it’s took a while for EAA to become the superior choice, I always remember back years ago seeing pictures of one of sponsored guys I think it was nick edge xxx(used to be on B.B.com) or some name along those lines scooping from all the different cl coloured tubs, probably the first time I bought products because I liked the look of the tubs
Wonder what happened to that guy, I remember his abs were nuts. Him and chicken tuna (bring back the memories) were the in thing then.
Give me 8g lcitulline - clinical doseGhost Maragraita Amino V2 Finalized
Chef Bob pauses Tony Hawk
New Shaker of the Month (Cubs Inspiration for Opening Day) --> First Thursday in April
Ghost Sonic Cherry Limeade drops 3/28/19 ---> 1 Eastern/12PM Central
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Yep, that’ll get it done!New Merica Labz Pre-Workout "H-Bomb"
Soon the launch. Doug leaked it on his IG story
All this in 2 caps? HuummNow available
Primeval Labs Multi Vitamin
Whats the issue? Most ingreds are dosed in the micrograms (not that I would put those two caps in my body)All this in 2 caps? Huumm
You mean like GlycoShield and LipoShieldSo wait, it has white kidney bean as an amalyse inhibitor and then extra amalyse added separately? Bulk Gymnema, Chitosan or Glucomannan are super cheap. I would rather go after a carb-targeted product for a higher carb meal and a fat-targeted product for a higher-fat meal.
Will not purchase any pre with citrulline malate. Give me pure L cit or nothingNew Merica Labz Pre-Workout "H-Bomb"
Soon the launch. Doug leaked it on his IG story
HPS Inērtia will have FAR less than that in 2 scoops. Companies overdose the caffeine so you feel SOMETHING, as opposed to putting in quality stims that work at proper dosages. When you have the right combo of stims at the right amounts, you don’t need all the caffeine to make an effective product. Again, comes back to the foundation of how I formulate HPS products, to actually work, and keep you from wasting money as a consumer. It’ll be marketed mainly as a fat loss beverage but many will find it very useful as a pre workout and highly stackable with non stim pre’s and pump products. Which, yes, HPS will make eventually. And no my pre/pump will not have vaso6 or overdosed amounts of glycerol mono etc.I was just thinking to myself how much we need another 450mg+ caffeine PWO
Also no need to put BA or creatine in the pre workout...when will companies stop doing this...HPS Inērtia will have FAR less than that in 2 scoops. Companies overdose the caffeine so you feel SOMETHING, as opposed to putting in quality stims that work at proper dosages. When you have the right combo of stims at the right amounts, you don’t need all the caffeine to make an effective product. Again, comes back to the foundation of how I formulate HPS products, to actually work, and keep you from wasting money as a consumer. It’ll be marketed mainly as a fat loss beverage but many will find it very useful as a pre workout and highly stackable with non stim pre’s and pump products. Which, yes, HPS will make eventually. And no my pre/pump will not have vaso6 or overdosed amounts of glycerol mono etc.
if the formula is on point malate isn't a game changer for me, but I definitely prefer l-cit....fortunately supp companies seem to be listening to consumers and are going l-cit with no malate.Will not purchase any pre with citrulline malate. Give me pure L cit or nothing
I am still a fan of vaso6, I get good results from it.HPS Inērtia will have FAR less than that in 2 scoops. Companies overdose the caffeine so you feel SOMETHING, as opposed to putting in quality stims that work at proper dosages. When you have the right combo of stims at the right amounts, you don’t need all the caffeine to make an effective product. Again, comes back to the foundation of how I formulate HPS products, to actually work, and keep you from wasting money as a consumer. It’ll be marketed mainly as a fat loss beverage but many will find it very useful as a pre workout and highly stackable with non stim pre’s and pump products. Which, yes, HPS will make eventually. And no my pre/pump will not have vaso6 or overdosed amounts of glycerol mono etc.
I want them both in my Pre !! We all look for something different !!Also no need to put BA or creatine in the pre workout...when will companies stop doing this...
Lol trust me I won’tAlso no need to put BA or creatine in the pre workout...when will companies stop doing this...
Not knocking the ingredient, there’s just an over abundance of products using it. I want HPS products to A) be as unique as possible and B) limit overlapping ingredients to avoid dangerous / unnecessary amounts bc let’s face it, we all use a variety of brands and products and it’s very easy to over do some ingredients without even realizing it.. for example vitamin d and b Vitamins, and even carnitine... I recently had bloodwork showing abnormally high levels and when I went through my supp stash I realized I was taking way too much and subsequently had to stop using several products.I am still a fan of vaso6, I get good results from it.
Well that name won't last long.VPX previews Reign a new pre workout based RTD
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Yea seems like more and more companies are switching over to l cit which is great. Just wonder when every company will get the memoif the formula is on point malate isn't a game changer for me, but I definitely prefer l-cit....fortunately supp companies seem to be listening to consumers and are going l-cit with no malate.
I vote Put Them In There !!Didn't everyone pretty much agree that we don't need Beta Alanine and Creatine in pre's? What is the deal with this.
Reminds me of every test booster being crammed with DAA.
I mean as long as you are getting the amount of Citrulline it doesn't really matter if it is Citrulline Malate or just Citrulline, just requires a higher dose. Malic acid helps with flavoring so it may be included for that in lots of products even if it is just added on its own.Yea seems like more and more companies are switching over to l cit which is great. Just wonder when every company will get the memo
Mike Arnold has pointed out that there’s a beneficial buffering effect during training the Malate provides you don’t get with pure L-Citrulline, so a correspondingly equal (higher) dose of of Cit Mal has more benefits too. But if people don’t know that and they only want to buy L-Cit most companies will need to sell what folks wanna buy. What can you do.I mean as long as you are getting the amount of Citrulline it doesn't really matter if it is Citrulline Malate or just Citrulline, just requires a higher dose. Malic acid helps with flavoring so it may be included for that in lots of products even if it is just added on its own.
Max reps was awesome.Mike Arnold has pointed out that there’s a beneficial buffering effect during training the Malate provides you don’t get with pure L-Citrulline, so a correspondingly equal (higher) dose of of Cit Mal has more benefits too. But if people don’t know that and they only want to buy L-Cit most companies will need to sell what folks wanna buy. What can you do.
I will say, if anybody used USP Labs Max Reps, you know the beauty of Cit Mal. If you take enough, it works well.
I am fine with the creatine but cannot stand beta-alanine in pres.Didn't everyone pretty much agree that we don't need Beta Alanine and Creatine in pre's? What is the deal with this.
Reminds me of every test booster being crammed with DAA.
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Ok but that’s part of the issue. Companies skimp out with the malate and you don’t get same citrulline dosage. For example if my pre contains 6g of pure l cit then I’d need a product to have 12g of cit Mal in order to get the same dosage. What pre out there contains 12g citrulline malate? Because there’s none that I can think ofI mean as long as you are getting the amount of Citrulline it doesn't really matter if it is Citrulline Malate or just Citrulline, just requires a higher dose. Malic acid helps with flavoring so it may be included for that in lots of products even if it is just added on its own.
Max reps was awesome.
But that’s my point - see the above comment. Max Reps had 8g Cit Mal and it made for an awesome pump pre. You don’t need 12g Cit Mal, and probably not 6g L-Cit. If you want more pumps than that, try a bolus dose of preWO sodium & carbohydrate with some Agmatine.Ok but that’s part of the issue. Companies skimp out with the malate and you don’t get same citrulline dosage. For example if my pre contains 6g of pure l cit then I’d need a product to have 12g of cit Mal in order to get the same dosage. What pre out there contains 12g citrulline malate? Because there’s none that I can think of
3-4g L-Citrulline // 6-8g Citrulline Malate has been heavily studied in science to show the results needed for an adequate dose. Going higher can sometimes illicit better results, but as you know more does not ALWAYS = BetterBut that’s my point - see the above comment. Max Reps had 8g Cit Mal and it made for an awesome pump pre. You don’t need 12g Cit Mal, and probably not 6g L-Cit. If you want more pumps than that, try a bolus dose of preWO sodium & carbohydrate with some Agmatine.
You aren’t going to do markedly better than that with anything legal.
I can understand that understanding, just don't think that is really the case.Ok but that’s part of the issue. Companies skimp out with the malate and you don’t get same citrulline dosage. For example if my pre contains 6g of pure l cit then I’d need a product to have 12g of cit Mal in order to get the same dosage. What pre out there contains 12g citrulline malate? Because there’s none that I can think of
I think your math is off. 8g of cit Mal at a 2:1 ratio is 4g of citrulline. Not saying that’s a bad dose by any means though. Just prefer l citrulline myself and found that 6g is an ideal dose for meI can understand that understanding, just don't think that is really the case.
It has become like this race to the top to see who can put the most Citrulline in something, where as 3g or 6g Cit Mal is a studied dose. I remember when PESciense released High Volume and 4g was huuuugggeee.
I doubt some of these huge 6 or 7 or 8g Citrulline doses are really doing a ton more despite being twice the serving.
The product that sparked this also has 8g of 2:1 ratio so that is over 5g Citrulline anyways...
2:1 means 2 parts citrulline to 1 part malic acid...3 total parts. 8 divided by 3 is just under 3, so 2 parts would be just over 5 grams Citrulline.I think your math is off. 8g of cit Mal at a 2:1 ratio is 4g of citrulline. Not saying that’s a bad dose by any means though. Just prefer l citrulline myself and found that 6g is an ideal dose for me
You have way too much time on your hands.Citrulline Malate is composed of both L-Citrulline and Malic Acid.
Citrulline = molecular weight of 175.2g/mol
Malic Acid = molecular weight of 134.0874g/mol
a 2:1 preparation would mean you have 175.2 + 175.2 + 134.0874 giving you a finished product of 484.4874, of which 72.3% of that is L-Citrulline.
This means 1g of 2:1 L-Citrulline Malate should provide users with 720.3mg of L-Citrulline accompanied by 277mg of Malic Acid (give or take).
So an 8g serving size of this material equates to 5.784g of L-Citrulline
my eyes start to bleed from the pharma monotony at times, so I gotta come on here and look for ways to be technically correct as often as possible. Because being technically correct is the best type of correct.You have way too much time on your hands.
"I think that there’s a lot of people more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right."my eyes start to bleed from the pharma monotony at times, so I gotta come on here and look for ways to be technically correct as often as possible. Because being technically correct is the best type of correct.
morals...morals...whats that word mean again?"I think that there’s a lot of people more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right."
Genius Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
Oh yeah...forgot which industry this was.morals...morals...whats that word mean again?