The New Product Release Thread

[johnnyp]

Why does Cellucor insist on AAKG? It's in every pre workout they've put out.

 

[BigGame84]

Why does Cellucor insist on AAKG? It's in every pre workout they've put out.

AAKG is good for endurance and pumps I think

 

[Afi140]

AAKG is good for endurance and pumps I think

Ten years ago most companies thought the same thing. However, it does almost nothing (if anything at all) in terms of pumps.

 

[shockrock3]

Black and silver label looks sick and the formula seems like a definite upgrade to me. It's supposed to be a true 1 scooper

It actually looks very good...even with the prop. blend. Not used to Cellucor traveling this path.....this formula is what company's like Animal, etc. are afraid to do for some reason. Cellucor is historically pretty conservative with their formulas.

 

[johnnyp]

AAKG is good for endurance and pumps I think

No that and creatine nitrate aren't worth including.

 

[VaughnTrue]

AAKG is good for endurance and pumps I think

Ten years ago most companies thought the same thing. However, it does almost nothing (if anything at all) in terms of pumps.

Why does Cellucor insist on AAKG? It's in every pre workout they've put out.

purely for marketing, people who are just getting into the industry and those who refuse to believe that arginine doesn't rock

 

[Robert5891]

Why does Cellucor insist on AAKG? It's in every pre workout they've put out.

hype and playing on lack of knowledge of the GNC buyers where this product will be featured.

 

[MidwestBeast]

I remember years ago buying a little bottle of NOW AAKG powder...smh

lol

 

[mbonheur]

No that and creatine nitrate aren't worth including.

Creatine nitrate is also useless?

 

[VaughnTrue]

Creatine nitrate is also useless?

its not useless, you just need to add an additional form of creatine to it in order to reach your daily creatine requirements

 

[mbonheur]

its not useless, you just need to add an additional form of creatine to it in order to reach your daily creatine requirements

Ok, and concerning the "nitrate" part, does it feature pump enhancing properties as other nitrate products?

 

[ryane87]

I remember years ago buying a little bottle of NOW AAKG powder...smh

lol

AAKG....NO2 by MRI....fck they made a LOT of money off a shytty product

 

[VaughnTrue]

Ok, and concerning the "nitrate" part, does it feature pump enhancing properties as other nitrate products?

yes, all nitrates behave in the same manner

 

[Robert5891]

Ok, and concerning the "nitrate" part, does it feature pump enhancing properties as other nitrate products?

Yes it does. Each gram of creatine nitrate contains 67.5% creatine and 32.5% nitrate, meaning you’ll get 675mg of creatine in each gram of the ingredient and 325mg nitrate in each gram.

 

[cubs1987]

AAKG....NO2 by MRI....fck they made a LOT of money off a shytty product

They still do... NO2 Black, NO2 Black Full Cycle, Black Powder... same old sht

 

[jaredmus]

They still do... NO2 Black, NO2 Black Full Cycle, Black Powder... same old sht

Can't say I ever used it but use to see this and CE2(white and purple box yellow lettering) selling for like 90 bucks at gnc. Crazy thing is people bought it at that price.

 

[johnnyp]

Creatine nitrate is also useless?

See part 49-51 http://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12970-016-0144-9

 

[The Solution]

Performax Labs MassMax XT

 

[Mowglisml]

What Keto Bomb actually is though, is a zero sugar ketogenic creamer for coffee and tea. The convenient formula promises to burn fat as fuel, promote performance and energy, and support overall weight loss.

no formula yet.

This looks awesome. Would definitely buy this.

 

[mbonheur]

Performax Labs MassMax XT

Any idea about the Rhaponticum Carthamoides Extract (ratio, standardization, etc.)?

 

[The Solution]

Any idea about the Rhaponticum Carthamoides Extract (ratio, standardization, etc.)?

AntM1564 Adizzle1

 

[Danes]

Performax Labs MassMax XT

Looks good.
I am glad They didnt mentioned Turkesterone in RCE. If they did, I would laugh. (That is typical fail supplement companies make because they dont know what they are doing).

Perfomax know what they are doing

I wonder why they just mentioned those ecdysteroids... i wonder what standardization it is. HPLC or UV tested etc

 

[johnnyp]

Is ECDY the ingredient they are referring to with "improved protein synthesis?"

 

[Danes]

Is ECDY the ingredient they are referring to with "improved protein synthesis?"

I guess yes

 

[cubsfan815]

Link to MassMax XT writeup:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=287952

 

[Adizzle1]

Looks good.
I am glad They didnt mentioned Turkesterone in RCE. If they did, I would laugh. (That is typical fail supplement companies make because they dont know what they are doing).

Perfomax know what they are doing

I wonder why they just mentioned those ecdysteroids... i wonder what standardization it is. HPLC or UV tested etc

The three points that differentiate our material vs. other unpopular materials:

1. Utilizing RCE: Most companies might try Using inferior sources like Suma Root. RCE has been proven to be a far superior source of ecdy and produces significantly better results than other inferior sources.

2. Whole RCE Plant Extract Out Performs Isolated Compounds: Using highly standardized extracts or ‘pure’ ecdysteroids. While 20-HE is the most well studied and out performs other ecdysterones its clear that a full spectrum of extract of RCE is far superior then one specific compound. This could be due to multiple other anabolic ecdysterones like Polypodyne B or other constituents found in RCE like nitrogen-bearing alkaloids, larger triterpenes, etc

3. Utilizing HPLC vs. UV. Lastly is the testing method. Most low quality Ecdysterone extracts are tested via UV which results in very unreliable readings. 1 RCE extract could test at 95% 20-HE via UV and actually contain as little as 10-15% 20-HE. It is important for proper standardization that ecdysterones are tested HPLC for accurate measurements. This also ensures that from one lot to the next the materials are nearly identical where as with UV detection there could be huge differences.

MassMax XT uses a 40% 20-HE HPLC extract as 20-HE is the most active ecdysterone, however we also kept it at that low standardization to ensure the presences of all other ecdysterones as well as other constituents like nitrogen-bearing alkaloids, larger triterpenes, etc

 

[TrainerTone]

purely for marketing, people who are just getting into the industry and those who refuse to believe that arginine doesn't rock

Agree with that

 

[johnnyp]

The three points that differentiate our material vs. other unpopular materials:

1. Utilizing RCE: Most companies might try Using inferior sources like Suma Root. RCE has been proven to be a far superior source of ecdy and produces significantly better results than other inferior sources.

2. Whole RCE Plant Extract Out Performs Isolated Compounds: Using highly standardized extracts or ‘pure’ ecdysteroids. While 20-HE is the most well studied and out performs other ecdysterones its clear that a full spectrum of extract of RCE is far superior then one specific compound. This could be due to multiple other anabolic ecdysterones like Polypodyne B or other constituents found in RCE like nitrogen-bearing alkaloids, larger triterpenes, etc

3. Utilizing HPLC vs. UV. Lastly is the testing method. Most low quality Ecdysterone extracts are tested via UV which results in very unreliable readings. 1 RCE extract could test at 95% 20-HE via UV and actually contain as little as 10-15% 20-HE. It is important for proper standardization that ecdysterones are tested HPLC for accurate measurements. This also ensures that from one lot to the next the materials are nearly identical where as with UV detection there could be huge differences.

MassMax XT uses a 40% 20-HE HPLC extract as 20-HE is the most active ecdysterone, however we also kept it at that low standardization to ensure the presences of all other ecdysterones as well as other constituents like nitrogen-bearing alkaloids, larger triterpenes, etc

So all this makes up for how high you have to dose it or is it the bioperine?

 

[Danes]

The three points that differentiate our material vs. other unpopular materials:

1. Utilizing RCE: Most companies might try Using inferior sources like Suma Root. RCE has been proven to be a far superior source of ecdy and produces significantly better results than other inferior sources.

2. Whole RCE Plant Extract Out Performs Isolated Compounds: Using highly standardized extracts or ‘pure’ ecdysteroids. While 20-HE is the most well studied and out performs other ecdysterones its clear that a full spectrum of extract of RCE is far superior then one specific compound. This could be due to multiple other anabolic ecdysterones like Polypodyne B or other constituents found in RCE like nitrogen-bearing alkaloids, larger triterpenes, etc

3. Utilizing HPLC vs. UV. Lastly is the testing method. Most low quality Ecdysterone extracts are tested via UV which results in very unreliable readings. 1 RCE extract could test at 95% 20-HE via UV and actually contain as little as 10-15% 20-HE. It is important for proper standardization that ecdysterones are tested HPLC for accurate measurements. This also ensures that from one lot to the next the materials are nearly identical where as with UV detection there could be huge differences.

MassMax XT uses a 40% 20-HE HPLC extract as 20-HE is the most active ecdysterone, however we also kept it at that low standardization to ensure the presences of all other ecdysterones as well as other constituents like nitrogen-bearing alkaloids, larger triterpenes, etc

1. Quality RCE and ATE are the best ecdysteroid sources

2. Whole RCE or ATE is better than one isolated compound (it has synergic effect). But one isolated compound (such as 20-HE or Turkesterone) which is complexed with a potent bioavailability/absorptiom enhancer is actually better than "whole plant".

3. HPLC = Superior testing method and I do agree with you how wrong UV method is compared to HPLC.

4. I will try this product

 

[Adizzle1]

Awesome, cant wait to hear what you think. In terms of ATE and RCE, they are both very effective however we were in contact with the ICPS and there manufacturing low amounts currently that the price was astronomically high. With that in mind, it made more sense to provide a very high quality RCE vs. low dosing an ATE due to cost vs. benefit ratio.

Both Ecdysterone and Epicatechin have very great solubility, so complexing with something like cylcodextrin would likely add very little value. They are considered BCS Class III compounds, they have great solubility and low permeation. So the real goal was to increase intestinal permeation, which is why we use the proven permeation enhancer Sodium Caprate: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23069717

 

[chedapalooza]

Awesome, cant wait to hear what you think. In terms of ATE and RCE, they are both very effective however we were in contact with the ICPS and there manufacturing low amounts currently that the price was astronomically high. With that in mind, it made more sense to provide a very high quality RCE vs. low dosing an ATE due to cost vs. benefit ratio.

Both Ecdysterone and Epicatechin have very great solubility, so complexing with something like cylcodextrin would likely add very little value. They are considered BCS Class III compounds, they have great solubility and low permeation. So the real goal was to increase intestinal permeation, which is why we use the proven permeation enhancer Sodium Caprate: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23069717

Can't wait to try this Adizzle1

 

[DUbz86]

Link to MassMax XT writeup:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=287952

When is the release date?

 

[Adizzle1]

It should be available by the end of this month!

 

[The Solution]

It should be available by the end of this month!

Guys got any logging opportunities for this?

 

[Danes]

Awesome, cant wait to hear what you think. In terms of ATE and RCE, they are both very effective however we were in contact with the ICPS and there manufacturing low amounts currently that the price was astronomically high. With that in mind, it made more sense to provide a very high quality RCE vs. low dosing an ATE due to cost vs. benefit ratio.

Both Ecdysterone and Epicatechin have very great solubility, so complexing with something like cylcodextrin would likely add very little value. They are considered BCS Class III compounds, they have great solubility and low permeation. So the real goal was to increase intestinal permeation, which is why we use the proven permeation enhancer Sodium Caprate: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23069717

Complexing with Cyclodextrin is just possible if you have single compound. Not possible with RCE , but I know you know this

Ecdysterone + cyclodextrin= increased adsorption, bioavailability and solubility

INCREASING THE SOLUBILITY OF ECDYSTERONE
A.K. Nazarov; A.M. Antokhin, PhD; A.V. Aksenov, PhD; G.V. Nazarov, PhD; D.A. Mitrofanov, PhD; V.M. Goncharov,
PhD; E.I. Berizovskaya
Signal Research Center, Moscow

The paper shows the biological value of ecdysterone for the normal vital activity of different animal species. The high adaptogenic activity of this compound was a basis for designing the new drug Exdysten and a number of ecdysterone-based biologically active supplements. However, the low bioavailability of ia goal oral substance due to its weak adsorption in the gastrointestinal tract reduces the therapeutic activity of ecdysterone, which is caused by its hydrophobic properties. Cyclodextrins that are oligosaccharides with a hydrophobic hollow and hydrophobic external surface, 2-hydroxypropyl-β-cyclodextrin in particu- lar, which is able to form, along with its drug substance, inclusion complexes that have improved biopharmaceutical properties, such as solubility and biological availability, are now used to improve the solubility of the drug substance. Investigations were conducted to study the effect of 2-hydroxypropyl-β-cyclodextrin on the biopharmaceutical properties of exdysterone. To determine the content of exdysterone in the aliquots, the investigators employed high-performance liquid chromatography-tandem mass spec- trometry using a Thermo Scientific liquid chromatograph as a unit with a Finnigan LXQ mass spectrometer with electrospray ionization at atmospher- ic pressure. The solubility of ecdysterone in the presence of 2-hydroxypropyl-β-cyclodextrin was ascertained to be increased 17-fold, which may assist in increasing its bioavailability.


RCE is powermachine and with your quality it will definitely improve mood,recovery, strength and much more and I like idea of adding Sodium Caprate! That will definitely help RCE !


I will definitely buy "many" bottles and try different dosages. This is interesting product!

 

[blueline438]

Guys. Look what I just got.

 

[danielmoo]

Guys. Look what I just got.

Very nice!

 

[The Solution]

Blood Orange to be available SOON!
Strawberry Mango come Jan 1st.

2 more flavors after that to be released

 

[scump]

Blood Orange to be available Monday (or a little later in the week)
Strawberry Mango come Jan 1st.

2 more flavors after that to be released

Shut the front door!

Strawberry mango!?!? my 2 favourite xtends are literally strawberry kiwi and mango... now it sounds like hes combined them! genius!

Can't wait to try that! blood orange though... im imagine just a fruitier orange flavour, much like a blood orange tastes like a regular orange lol.

 

[The Solution]

Shut the front door!

Strawberry mango!?!? my 2 favourite xtends are literally strawberry kiwi and mango... now it sounds like hes combined them! genius!

Can't wait to try that! blood orange though... im imagine just a fruitier orange flavour, much like a blood orange tastes like a regular orange lol.

If you think Blood Orange is going to be up your alley as well as Strawberry Mango. Just wait till you see what the last 2 are going to be.
I think you will be going head over heels when they are released sometimes Feb/march of 2017

 

[The Solution]

Blood Orange Xtend is now available for Sale @ Nutraplanet
Don't forget to type "ANABOLIC MINDS" in the comment section when you order so we can hook you up with extra goodies!
Any questions let me know!

https://nutraplanet.com/products/scivation-xtend-new-blood-orange-30-serving-90-serving/

 

[Drakee]

Guys. Look what I just got.

ingredients?

 

[DEVANS89]

I've literally just looked up the back panel, however my post count is too low to post it...

so im now trying to get it too 100

 

[Drakee]

I've literally just looked up the back panel, however my post count is too low to post it...

so im now trying to get it too 100

Lol type em up! Can't find that anywhere online

 

[blueline438]

Said that back on the 30th of November haha.
Yeah they have been working on it for quite some time now. Eager to see the profile.



And here it is

300mg Caffeine
6g Citrulline
3.2g BA
1.5g Betaine
Teacrine
1.5g Creatine Nitrate
1.5g Nitrosigine

Alpha GPC, Zembrine, Huperzine A (Noots)

Not bad....Curious on price point

It currently comes in two sizes, 20 and 40 servings, with four flavors to choose from in Icy Blue Razz, Cherry Limeade, Orange Mango, and Strawberry Watermelon.

Orange Mango? oh man.

ingredients?

Posted earlier. See above

 

[TrainerTone]

Blood Orange Xtend is now available for Sale @ Nutraplanet
Don't forget to type "ANABOLIC MINDS" in the comment section when you order so we can hook you up with extra goodies!
Any questions let me know!

https://nutraplanet.com/products/scivation-xtend-new-blood-orange-30-serving-90-serving/

Good stuff

 

[danielmoo]

Blood Orange sounds really good.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

Hopefully Cellucor doesnt whore out this new C4, it actually looks pretty decent! Am VERY surprised! The Silicate may make it feel weaker in about 50% of the population, due to slower absorption. Same thing happened unfortunately with HiTech making Innovative Labs Wicked and the new Gaspari Superpump with DMAA.

 

[schizm]

Alpha Y, cellucor can go stick it.

 

[The Solution]

Blood Orange sounds really good.

Good stuff

hopefully ill be able to update you on the flavor feedback soon.
Grab a tub. I heard its incredible
1Fast400 said he can't get enough of it.

Strawberry Mango sounds like it is going to be incredible. I love mixing Fruit Punch and Mango, so this sounds like it will be right up my alley.