focus is strong with prolific
Caffeine+Rhodiola+Choline is a great combo from my experience. Good to hear.focus is strong with prolific
Nice!I'm not sure if someone mentioned it already but there is going to be a new Mesomorph flavor. Snowcone!
Short answer is noDoes PES have any plans to re-vamp/bring back Alphamine or formulate a replacement for Norcodrene?
As of now, noDoes PES have any plans to re-vamp/bring back Alphamine or formulate a replacement for Norcodrene?
Then take those and don't worry about PES. Alphamine is no longer a fat burner anyway. This whole thing is old. Find something else and be happyDisappointing this is. The new formulas..wow, I don't want to be rude. Luckily they speak for themselves. I have some BCAA supplements with more fat burning and stimulant properties. Sorry..
Well I originally asked if they had plans to bring back or replace the new formulas which would then be another new release. This is the new release thread. Nice talkin to ya..Then take those and don't worry about PES. Alphamine is no longer a fat burner anyway. This whole thing is old. Find something else and be happy
DMAA is a funny one, back in the day it use to razz me up bigtime, seems we build a permanent tolerance to it because since it has been brought back to the market, I have been very underwhelmed. the AMP-HCL is amazing for energy.Totally agree
Dmaa makes me feel grimy, stim dick, and has a ****ty comedown. Amp is smoother and cleaner. Never understood the dmaa love. Thankfully we have options!
I'm glad I still have some Amp C products, I love it!I think I like Amp-C over DMAA, am I the only one? Why would this be the case?
The crop/batch of DMAA nowadays is sh*t compared to back in the day. A lot of funny stuff is going on concerning the potency of DMAA, people aren't stupid...whatever crap DMAA they are putting in today's formulas sux. Something is up.....DMAA is a funny one, back in the day it use to razz me up bigtime, seems we build a permanent tolerance to it because since it has been brought back to the market, I have been very underwhelmed. the AMP-HCL is amazing for energy.
mesomorph back in the day with the bright pink powder and medicine taste would actually make my heart a subwoofer, it was insane stuff. New stuff literally spaced me out and basically nada energy wise.The crop/batch of DMAA nowadays is sh*t compared to back in the day. A lot of funny stuff is going on concerning the potency of DMAA, people aren't stupid...whatever crap DMAA they are putting in today's formulas sux. Something is up.....
Haha so its definitely a decrease in quality.The crop/batch of DMAA nowadays is sh*t compared to back in the day. A lot of funny stuff is going on concerning the potency of DMAA, people aren't stupid...whatever crap DMAA they are putting in today's formulas sux. Something is up.....
really like this one. first product i've been legit excited to try in awhileChaos & Pain released its GDA Predator
The crop/batch of DMAA nowadays is sh*t compared to back in the day. A lot of funny stuff is going on concerning the potency of DMAA, people aren't stupid...whatever crap DMAA they are putting in today's formulas sux. Something is up.....
mesomorph back in the day with the bright pink powder and medicine taste would actually make my heart a subwoofer, it was insane stuff. New stuff literally spaced me out and basically nada energy wise.
hell yeah, I remember the original (true original) of Dark Rage (MHP) and 1MR were nuts. I remember thinking someone was going to have to put “two to the chest and one to the head” to put me down on this stuff. Very little has created a similar feeling or come close, maybe original Ultimate Orange in high school though im not sure that was DMAA.Haha so its definitely a decrease in quality.
nothing to do with over-exposure to stims or the large quantity of stims available now as opposed to say 6 years back?
What if someone gave you some DMAA from back then and it had a reduced effect on you? would you then say its started to break down due to shelf life or accept that your body no longer responds the same way it did back then? (fwiw i still have heaps of DMAA caps from back then and feels the same as a new tub of meso)
Always preferred AMP C over DMAA... Ampitropin was amazing to mix with a pre. Yet to try DMHA so can't comment on him, hopefully have some on the way though.
Def. a decrease in quality. Myself, I don't over abuse DMAA. Back in the day people were getting lit off 25mg...yeah you had to bump up the scoops after awhile but you still got zoned. Now, you're looking at 50-75mg a scoop for alot of DMAA pre's and reading people take 1.5-2 scoops and being "mildly" stimulated? I'm not buying it.Haha so its definitely a decrease in quality.
nothing to do with over-exposure to stims or the large quantity of stims available now as opposed to say 6 years back?
What if someone gave you some DMAA from back then and it had a reduced effect on you? would you then say its started to break down due to shelf life or accept that your body no longer responds the same way it did back then? (fwiw i still have heaps of DMAA caps from back then and feels the same as a new tub of meso)
Always preferred AMP C over DMAA... Ampitropin was amazing to mix with a pre. Yet to try DMHA so can't comment on him, hopefully have some on the way though.
DMAA extracts? Ok.Def. a decrease in quality. Myself, I don't over abuse DMAA. Back in the day people were getting lit off 25mg...yeah you had to bump up the scoops after awhile but you still got zoned. Now, you're looking at 50-75mg a scoop for alot of DMAA pre's and reading people take 1.5-2 scoops and being "mildly" stimulated? I'm not buying it.
The only one that's felt like OG DMAA was Meso...but I haven't had a tub of it since Tuitty Fruitty came out.
I'm just not buying the theory that the extracts nowadays match the potency of the GOOD years.
All these OG pre were spiked imo lolhell yeah, I remember the original (true original) of Dark Rage (MHP) and 1MR were nuts. I remember thinking someone was going to have to put “two to the chest and one to the head” to put me down on this stuff. Very little has created a similar feeling or come close, maybe original Ultimate Orange in high school though im not sure that was DMAA.
Wow that's a solid ingredients list would you stack it with a pump agent?Pes prolific ingredients list,looks good to me,what about cotton candy flavor ?
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I am glad that a UK based company sells it in bulk at a good priceI'm glad I still have some Amp C products, I love it!
Yep, a lot of them contained far more DMAA then advertisedAll these OG pre were spiked imo lol
Really no need, 6 grams of citrulline is a great doseWow that's a solid ingredients list would you stack it with a pump agent?
Your attempt at being humorous...wasn't humorous. Surprised there wasn't a plug for a Performax product in your response, nuk nuk.DMAA extracts? Ok.
we talking with amphetamine salts or whatever it was exactly they found in OG Craze?All these OG pre were spiked imo lol
Intrigued (but not by the flavor). I also don't get the same effects from DMAA or other stims these days (R.I.P. Muscle Marinade), so I am really getting into nootropics and focus-related supps.
curious to see what the formula is...interesting branch out for CL to hit the gamer market
a lot of companies are venturing into this area nowcurious to see what the formula is...interesting branch out for CL to hit the gamer market
I'm not a PES rep, but I don't see why you couldn't use it as a nootropic supplement. At 2 scoops, you're getting solid doses of CDP-Choline, caffeine, theanine, taurine, rhodiola, and NeuroFactor, which all have uses as nootropics. The citrulline and betaine may not do all that much from a nootropic standpoint, but they're not going to be a detriment in any way, and it can be cool to do whatever work you're doing with a bit of a pump, haha.Could you use prolific as a noop? I'm looking for something different then alcar
Yes, because it increases focus and response time. I don't play video games, but I like supplements like this because it helps with overall work production. So I use at my job instead of coffee or an energy drinkA "gaming" supplement? For people who play video games?
Yeah exactly. You have some of the best nootropics on the market in this product, so yes you can use it as so. I would probably still keep ALCAR if combining with prolific thoughI'm not a PES rep, but I don't see why you couldn't use it as a nootropic supplement. At 2 scoops, you're getting solid doses of CDP-Choline, caffeine, theanine, taurine, rhodiola, and NeuroFactor, which all have uses as nootropics. The citrulline and betaine may not do all that much from a nootropic standpoint, but they're not going to be a detriment in any way, and it can be cool to do whatever work you're doing with a bit of a pump, haha.
You mean like the 50x which was a joke. It was literally just a scoop and a half per scoop. Nothing changed except you spent more dough.Don't have pics but I heard there is a new version of c4 coming out, c4 ultimate, it is suppose to be a big scooper
Said that back on the 30th of November haha.Don't have pics but I heard there is a new version of c4 coming out, c4 ultimate, it is suppose to be a big scooper
And here it isTalks about a reformulated C4 on the horizon. Wonder if they are going to throw in DMAA
Also curious, hopefully its not one that is built for perpetual B1G1 sales etccurious to see what the formula is...interesting branch out for CL to hit the gamer market
I am curious on the price since it supposedly is only available at one store at the moment.Said that back on the 30th of November haha.
Yeah they have been working on it for quite some time now. Eager to see the profile.
And here it is
300mg Caffeine
6g Citrulline
3.2g BA
1.5g Betaine
Teacrine
1.5g Creatine Nitrate
1.5g Nitrosigine
Alpha GPC, Zembrine, Huperzine A (Noots)
Not bad....Curious on price point
It currently comes in two sizes, 20 and 40 servings, with four flavors to choose from in Icy Blue Razz, Cherry Limeade, Orange Mango, and Strawberry Watermelon.
Orange Mango? oh man.
Orange Mango is nice one. I have a PWO with that flavour one of the best tasting products everSaid that back on the 30th of November haha.
Yeah they have been working on it for quite some time now. Eager to see the profile.
And here it is
300mg Caffeine
6g Citrulline
3.2g BA
1.5g Betaine
Teacrine
1.5g Creatine Nitrate
1.5g Nitrosigine
Alpha GPC, Zembrine, Huperzine A (Noots)
Not bad....Curious on price point
It currently comes in two sizes, 20 and 40 servings, with four flavors to choose from in Icy Blue Razz, Cherry Limeade, Orange Mango, and Strawberry Watermelon.
Orange Mango? oh man.
interesting. I ran keto for about a year and a half straight, having coffee wasn't an issue as a dollup of full fat or double fat cream helped the macros and gave a smooth energy and good taste! Never a fan of butter in there lol.What Keto Bomb actually is though, is a zero sugar ketogenic creamer for coffee and tea. The convenient formula promises to burn fat as fuel, promote performance and energy, and support overall weight loss.
no formula yet.
I personally add MAN Coffee Creamer Iso-Amino and its Absolutely amazing... MAN Killed the flavoring game.interesting. I ran keto for about a year and a half straight, having coffee wasn't an issue as a dollup of full fat or double fat cream helped the macros and gave a smooth energy and good taste! Never a fan of butter in there lol.
very curious to see the profile though, god please don't add caffeine unless its a byproduct of something useful (remembering we're adding this to coffee).
Black and silver label looks sick and the formula seems like a definite upgrade to me. It's supposed to be a true 1 scooperDon't have pics but I heard there is a new version of c4 coming out, c4 ultimate, it is suppose to be a big scooper