The Future of Primordial Performance

Resolve said:
I think it's my general size. To a 3-year old, a 6-foot-4 man who weighs 250 is an ogre; so even though I try to be nice, it's sometimes a bit overwhelming for the little ones. :p
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You don't say? LOL. I know what you mean. :D

Cheers Bud!:cheers:

-Sean-

Primordial Performance
 
With so much talk about certain ph cycles needing serms, one would think that a supplement company could or would make something on par with a serm. Serms arent exactly hard to aquire but it would be nice to see an effective and natural alternative. I think running more serious designers for lengths of 6 weeks would become more common if this ever came to be.

Thoughts on this?
 
Resolve said:
In all seriousness, I've had small children cry just from looking at me. On several occasions. :/
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Well I try and stay away from small children, but people never sit next to me in class. Somehow today I was the 1st 1 picked for groups though. Did I mention she is pretty :mischievous:
 
rulk22 said:
With so much talk about certain ph cycles needing serms, one would think that a supplement company could or would make something on par with a serm. Serms arent exactly hard to aquire but it would be nice to see an effective and natural alternative. I think running more serious designers for lengths of 6 weeks would become more common if this ever came to be.

Thoughts on this?
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I'm not sure what they will recommend for the androseries but I have seen plenty of people only use pp's trs and recover just fine from lighter ph cycles. But I do know that pp had hinted before about a few more products after the androseries so who knows, maybe a new pct product will be in the works.
 
HATEFULone said:
I'm not sure what they will recommend for the androseries but I have seen plenty of people only use pp's trs and recover just fine from lighter ph cycles. But I do know that pp had hinted before about a few more products after the androseries so who knows, maybe a new pct product will be in the works.
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I really think DAA is a huge plus to PCT. I've used TCF-1 and nutraplanet bulk post cycle and both have worked out well.
 
HATEFULone said:
I'm not sure what they will recommend for the androseries but I have seen plenty of people only use pp's trs and recover just fine from lighter ph cycles. But I do know that pp had hinted before about a few more products after the androseries so who knows, maybe a new pct product will be in the works.
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Not sure how much I can tell you, so I will leave it at we have some new products and some changes to existing products and stacks to look forward to.

~Rosie~
 
BigBlackGuy said:
I really think DAA is a huge plus to PCT. I've used TCF-1 and nutraplanet bulk post cycle and both have worked out well.
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I used tcf-1 in my last pct, really helped with feeling like I was back to normal much quicker, didn't get any blood work done though so don't have any hard numbers, but I do have some HARD anecdotal evidence, just ask the women of St. Petersburg, hahahah, pause, not.
 
BigBlackGuy said:
I really think DAA is a huge plus to PCT. I've used TCF-1 and nutraplanet bulk post cycle and both have worked out well.
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I agree. I got a free TCF-1 back when it was offered with the TRS. It worked fantastic. I would also like to try Testforce from E-Pharm Testforce as well. They seem to be the top two DAA products out right now.

If Eric and Pat are both pushing something, I'm listening.
 
HATEFULone said:
I'm not sure what they will recommend for the androseries but I have seen plenty of people only use pp's trs and recover just fine from lighter ph cycles. But I do know that pp had hinted before about a few more products after the androseries so who knows, maybe a new pct product will be in the works.
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you would think if they were to release a new series of ph's and had a new PCT product in the works too they would release them simultaneously.guess well have to keep waiting to see.
 
RepThat21 said:
you would think if they were to release a new series of ph's and had a new PCT product in the works too they would release them simultaneously.guess well have to keep waiting to see.
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You'll see what we recommend for PCT when we release the AndroSeries product information.

~Rosie~
 
weakestlink said:
I'm really beginning to doubt this "androseries" I just check the thread everyday expecting to hear that this was all a bad joke. :(
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HAHA yea starting to think this may turn into " HairGEN" product some of us were so excited about

I am sure this will come out though, PP has alot riding on it and they just want it to be perfect when released .. At least we know they care what they put in it not like other compaines who do not care enough to test
 
Guys we aren't going anywhere, the AndroSeries is still coming out, there is a lot going on behind the scenes to make this happen
 
I don't think there is anything to worry about with regards to Androseries coming to fruition. There seems to be a lot of knowledgeable/helpful people standing behind its release
 
weakestlink said:
I'm really beginning to doubt this "androseries" I just check the thread everyday expecting to hear that this was all a bad joke. :(
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As John mentioned at the start of the year, there have been delays, which have pushed the release back several weeks - if it upsets you that much, then don't check this thread, but you don't need to cry about not having information yet.


Orangatang said:
So this thread will pretty much be around forever then. All of us waiting to see what pp's got up its sleeeve next lol
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Not forever, LOL, but until we can get the AndroSeries out :) There is a lot MORE than the AndroSeries up our sleeves, you can be sure of that, and right now, it it our top priority to get that out and available. There is an unbelievable amount of work and effort going into this project, and we are not going to stop when we have come this far, and had to fight for every inch of progress!

~Rosie~
 
As for the talk about DAA, it certainly would be Hard to convince me not to use it as part of a pct regimine. It simply is a fantastic way to get your testosterone production into hyperdrive.

On the discussion of a safe over the counter PCT, I do think that the testosterone recovery stack is by far the best over the counter pct option on the market. It handles numerous points of pct: test, estrogen, cortisol, LH sensitivity, simply put it s very well rounded. I am not one to say there is no use for serms, but I can say that when a serm is not desired, the trs is the best option. Period.

As for the androseries, Rome wasn't built in a day. Perfection takes time. I can assure you it is no joke, and those who have patiently waited though unexpected delays will be
quite pleased to see what pp is capable of!
 
The Andro project better come out soon or you guys wont have much left to sell. Derm, Andro, sustain, glyco, pre max out of stock. I hate to see the Derm gone but I stock piled a few :)
 
I don't post much but gotta say PP made a bad business dicision to introduce as much as they did with the androseries without having their ducks in a row on the most important part of the equation, the supplier of their powder :( Anyways most people will not buy this anyways until logs with blood work before/after are done with non sponsered or PP affiliated users. It will be interesting to see indeed as I don't buy the hype right now until I see bloodwork.

I guess I am one of the people that still thinks you got to poke yourself to get test levels that high.

Peace Out
 
I hear that Patrick Arnold uses DAA everyday and has not experienced any adverse side effects. I can say with certainty that ill be trying tcf-1 for at least 24 days if not longer during my pct. And as for prolactin issues ill also be using powerfull.
 
carpejohn said:
I don't post much but gotta say PP made a bad business dicision to introduce as much as they did with the androseries without having their ducks in a row on the most important part of the equation, the supplier of their powder :( Anyways most people will not buy this anyways until logs with blood work before/after are done with non sponsered or PP affiliated users. It will be interesting to see indeed as I don't buy the hype right now until I see bloodwork.

I guess I am one of the people that still thinks you got to poke yourself to get test levels that high.

Peace Out
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We welcome the criticism. But I am glad you will be on the lookout for the logs, I think they will impress you :D
 
HereToStudy said:
As for the androseries, Rome wasn't built in a day.
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So you're saying stacking everything in the androseries would be the equivalent to being Rome?

I'm getting butterflies. The anxious kind, not the "Don't make me speak in front of the class cuz I have a boner" kind.
 
Rosie Chee Scott said:
As John mentioned at the start of the year, there have been delays, which have pushed the release back several weeks - if it upsets you that much, then don't check this thread, but you don't need to cry about not having information yet.


~Rosie~
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Why would he quit checking the thread because he's upset over lack of information? Wouldn't/Shouldn't that be cause to check more? If you're going to suggest someone stop "crying", perhaps you should do the same. No need to attack the guy because he's disappointed.

On topic, I still have full faith in PP and can't wait for the new line to arrive. I'm sure it's the apex as it's always been.
 
HereToStudy said:
As for the androseries, Rome wasn't built in a day.
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So you're saying stacking everything in the androseries would be the equivalent to being Rome?

I'm getting butterflies. The anxious kind, not the "Don't make me speak in front of the class cuz I have a boner" kind.
 
It was a few years ago, and not important anymore, but pretty crazy to release a 100% different product under the same name as the beta.
 
Do you remember the Straight Mass product from BCL? The thread on BB.com said something like "22lbs gained" without releasing ingredients then pages and pages of speculation before they released a statement saying something along the lines of "we didn't say our product testers were not on any other kind of cycle".

Turns out it was just an AI from what I remember.
 
bdcc said:
Do you remember the Straight Mass product from BCL? The thread on BB.com said something like "22lbs gained" without releasing ingredients then pages and pages of speculation before they released a statement saying something along the lines of "we didn't say our product testers were not on any other kind of cycle".

Turns out it was just an AI from what I remember.
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HAHA yea here is what they posted
-Gain upto 22lbs of lean muscle in 6 weeks...
-Entirely Natural ...
-No PCT needed ...
-Anti-Estrogenic Mass Builder ..


should of called it straight BULL $3it lol
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Cant wait for the Andro Series PP is always on point with their products
 
are these number still accurate??

"AndroMass will have an anabolic bioequivalent to 480mg/week of injectable testosterone enanthate."

"AndroHard will have an overall bioequivalent to 561mg/week masteron or 494mg/week primobolan.
 
bdcc said:
Do you remember the Straight Mass product from BCL? The thread on BB.com said something like "22lbs gained" without releasing ingredients then pages and pages of speculation before they released a statement saying something along the lines of "we didn't say our product testers were not on any other kind of cycle".

Turns out it was just an AI from what I remember.
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Now thats funny:)
 
ha, I'm not sad this is getting dragged out...I'll be up for my next run pretty soon :D

excited for what PP will be bringing to the table...especially with concerns of current designers being banned!
 
I'm patiently awaiting, I as planning my next hormonal for January but have decided to get my diet and training really 100%, so I'm thinking February instead, hope there is good news by then.
 
HATEFULone said:
I'm patiently awaiting, I as planning my next hormonal for January but have decided to get my diet and training really 100%, so I'm thinking February instead, hope there is good news by then.
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Getting your diet and training down is going to pay off when you run the Androseries.
 
any news?
 
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