PreMax - The most effective pre-workout performance drink!

[DAdams91982]

Sounds like someone may have a little sand in the vajajay. I think this Premax is just what the doctor ordered.

 

[EasyEJL]

Yeah, still too many guys trying to apply "what the value TO ME of product X at X price" as if it were "what the value TO EVERYONE of product X at X price" is. If a $5 footlong subway sub is an exciting meal out that you can only afford once a month then sure, I can see where that makes sense

 

[DAdams91982]

Yeah, still too many guys trying to apply "what the value TO ME of product X at X price" as if it were "what the value TO EVERYONE of product X at X price" is. If a $5 footlong subway sub is an exciting meal out that you can only afford once a month then sure, I can see where that makes sense

I don't care about the argument one way or another, but come on.. that comparison is Apple's to Door Knob's.

 

[EasyEJL]

I dunno, the ingredients are patented so they cost what the patent holder chooses to charge. So as far as objective value goes, you've got $1.50 in peptopro and $2.50 of GPLC per serving roughly. So anyone talking about value its pretty much based on what they have available for spending. So if $5 for a sub is a stretch for you then $5 for a serving of a preworkout doesn't make sense.

 

[DAdams91982]

I dunno, the ingredients are patented so they cost what the patent holder chooses to charge. So as far as objective value goes, you've got $1.50 in peptopro and $2.50 of GPLC per serving roughly. So anyone talking about value its pretty much based on what they have available for spending. So if $5 for a sub is a stretch for you then $5 for a serving of a preworkout doesn't make sense.

Ah, i read it wrong... I think I read it all backward... sort of like the latte comment prior. I read it as if you have $5 for a sub, you have 5$ for a day of PreMax!

Carrry on... apparently my coffee has yet to kick in fully

 

[BBB]

NOS Ether is a great product. I'm glad to hear you're willing to try the Pre Max, and assess the effects for yourself; looking forward to your feedback whatever it may be.

It's the only way to know for sure. PP has a good reputation for making effective products. They don't overhype or hide behind proprietary blends and generally present both the good and bad effects from their products. What more can you ask of a supplement company? The price will be an issue for many, myself included, but if it really works I can justify the cost by eliminating other marginally effective supplements from my regime. I will call it as I see it. I have no ties to PP or any other supplement company. I personally beleive that 98% of the supplements on the market are pure crap. I keep searching for those rare jewels that are actually worth the money.

 

[EasyEJL]

Ah, i read it wrong... I think I read it all backward... sort of like the latte comment prior. I read it as if you have $5 for a sub, you have 5$ for a day of PreMax!

Carrry on... apparently my coffee has yet to kick in fully

I've been trying avant's new caffeine free stim and although it works well, it doesn't give that bit of manic energy something with caffeine does. I could use some coffee too

 

[thebigt]

Same here. I have used nearly ever form of arginine, including up to 6g of AAKG, and as of yet nothing has given me a better pump than the PreMax

hahaha, i bet my test cyp has it beat, lol. 200mg/ml 10ml vial=$8- now there is value.:bigok:

 

[TexasTitan]

Yes, because cycling test is so much like a Pre WO.

 

[thebigt]

Yes, because cycling test is so much like a Pre WO.

if it were a cycle-yes.:veryhappy: if the future of supplements is going to be $150 a month supplements then i can see many turning to aas. the cost of supplements is becoming cost prohibitive, imo.

 

[nattydisaster]

hahaha, i bet my test cyp has it beat, lol. 200mg/ml 10ml vial=$8- now there is value.:bigok:

Haha, you're getting ripped! my TRT = 30mL vial :32:

 

[Flaw]

Well for athletic purposes, caffeine dehydrates you.

If your properly hydrated that's not going to be a issue. Let's not give people that wrong idea here and scare them

 

[thebigt]

Haha, you're getting ripped! my TRT = 30mL vial :32:

i aint complaining.:veryhappy: that $8 every month is making me a very happy camper, lol.:bigok:

 

[poison]

I could use some coffee too

you called me, sire?

 

[Trauma1]

hahaha, i bet my test cyp has it beat, lol. 200mg/ml 10ml vial=$8- now there is value.:bigok:

I raise you my dbol/sustaplex......

 

[Trauma1]

It's the only way to know for sure. PP has a good reputation for making effective products. They don't overhype or hide behind proprietary blends and generally present both the good and bad effects from their products. What more can you ask of a supplement company? The price will be an issue for many, myself included, but if it really works I can justify the cost by eliminating other marginally effective supplements from my regime. I will call it as I see it. I have no ties to PP or any other supplement company. I personally beleive that 98% of the supplements on the market are pure crap. I keep searching for those rare jewels that are actually worth the money.

Appreciate the kind words. I hope that the Pre Max treats you well my friend.

 

[thebigt]

I raise you my dbol/sustaplex......

hahaha, no thanks. i am loving the effects of the test cyp, muscle mass is up/fat is down/strength is up/mood is fantastic and libido of a teenager. at 51 years old i never thought i would feel this good again. life is good, my friend!!!:veryhappy:

 

[Trauma1]

hahaha, no thanks. i am loving the effects of the test cyp, muscle mass is up/fat is down/strength is up/mood is fantastic and libido of a teenager. at 51 years old i never thought i would feel this good again. life is good, my friend!!!:veryhappy:

That's awesome, T!; glad to hear you're doing well my friend.

 

[thebigt]

That's awesome, T!; glad to hear you're doing well my friend.

thanks john, everything is going great. getting plenty of cardio- between chasing my wife and when i catch her, lol.

 

[EasyEJL]

you called me, sire?

that reminds me, i'll bust out whats left of your roasts tomorrow after thanksgiving dinner for what is likely to be an unappreciative audience as most of them are happy with 7-11 coffee.

 

[DAdams91982]

that reminds me, i'll bust out whats left of your roasts tomorrow after thanksgiving dinner for what is likely to be an unappreciative audience as most of them are happy with 7-11 coffee.

Why have I not been offered these boutique roasts?

 

[jbryand101b]

well sh*t. 50 bucks. I work out m-f. maybe I can talk the wife into letting me spend that kind of cash. yea right.

in the words of eric cartman "i hate you guys".
:squintfinger:

j/k i'd try it if i had the cash.

 

[soontobbeast]

Sounds like someone may have a little sand in the vajajay. I think this Premax is just what the doctor ordered.

good response.


i list 100% indisputable facts, and your rebuttal is an unfunny picture you found on one of your likely-bookmarked gay porn sites.

 

[Eric Potratz]

Our cost on PreMax is $30, and thats just for the raw materials.

If you tried to formulate PreMax yourself and buy from the cheapest sources you could find you would end up paying at least double. No Joke.

Absolutely no supplement manufacturer is ever going to release a product like PreMax because their isn't enough profit in it. You cant sell it to distrubutors. You cant throw "but one, get one" deals. And you cant market it to the masses because the price is too high.

Why did we do it?

We wanted to release the most clinically proven pre-workout performance drink on the market, and thats exactly what we did.

But obviously its not for everybody.

Maybe one day we will release a PreJack, and create a beta-alaninie, creatine, caffiene stack for about .50c per serving... but until then...

-Eric

 

[EasyEJL]

good response.


i list 100% indisputable facts, and your rebuttal is an unfunny picture you found on one of your likely-bookmarked gay porn sites.

Please share with us 1 actual fact you listed? all you did was make comparisons with gear, nothing factual.

Is this an expensive supplement yeah, nobody argues that. But value is subjective as many people here already have stated they feel its a fair price for the product given the raws in it. If you think its too expensive for you to use then fine, it doesn't mean thats the case for everyone. And not everyone is willing to jump to prohormones or steroids whether because of testing or just personal feelings. So again i'm not sure where you get off telling everyone else on the planet it isn't worth it for them to use a product you haven't tried.

 

[soontobbeast]

if you would have stopped a second and actually found the post that was being referenced you wouldnt have wasted your time responding to the wrong one. i sarcastically likened this protein to gear in my first post, which this is not related to. i went ahead and quoted for you the post he made his gay reply to. im sure you wont have a problem finding the facts. pay special attention to the bold.

lol. any stimulant dehydrates you to the extent of making you pee. in fact, anything that is said to make you excrete more than you are taking is a
'diuretic'. try drinking a glass of water.........how innovative.

this thread is no longer about whether this product is a good value. the focus has now been turned to people trying to downplay tried and true pre workout supps, which is silly. in my opinion the best pre workout is water. just being properly hydrated can increase strength an endurance up to 10-15%.

above that, if you want a boost, try some ephedrine, caffeine, aakg, beta alanine, and ALCAR.


i'm not even hating on premax anymore. if someone wants to buy overpriced hydrolyzed protein, thats their choice. but please don't hate on people that don't think it is a good value. afterall, the point of this thread to begin with was to draw opinions from the board.

 

[EasyEJL]

And where is there anything factual there about the effectiveness or value of GPLC or PeptoPro or any other ingredient in Premax?

 

[soontobbeast]

lol

OK.

first you respond to the wrong post. now you're trying to turn it around on me?

 

[EasyEJL]

This is a thread about Premax isn't it? not about caffeine or dehydration. So this is out of your budget for usage, and you feel there are other things that suit you better. Perfect, thats great, you've made your point over and over and are just being irritating now, as not everyone feels the same as you and you somehow feel the need to convince others this isn't worth it for them either. Primordial has stated they didn't make this for everyone, and obviously you fall into the "not for" category.

 

[soontobbeast]

well, you are 40. maybe alzheimer's is setting in.


i listed 'other products that suit me' one (1) time. somehow , though, that is 'over and over'.

my post about hydration was in response to ,and clarification for, another's post about hydration.

what is really annoying is your reading ineptitude.


so, either you're a liar, you cannot read, or you just prefer to make an ass of yourself.

either way, another response to one of your misdirected, hateful posts would be a waste of my time.

good day.

 

[EasyEJL]

so long as you leave the thread, whatever

 

[Kristofer68SS]

AAKG= NOTHING unto GPLC, the purpose of AAKG is NO, which it does not, GPLC does, I am an athlete, so believe me bro, not arguing, but living proof this raw amino on its own is worth, I RECOMMEND BULK GPLC.

okay, so I am doing the research on GPLC.

Whats the dealio with dosing the carnitines"?

Does this stuff NEED to be dosed ED like Beta-Alanine, Ribose, Creatine and the likes.

 

[andrew732]

okay, so I am doing the research on GPLC.

Whats the dealio with dosing the carnitines"?

Does this stuff NEED to be dosed ED like Beta-Alanine, Ribose, Creatine and the likes.

The salt esthers separate how the body processes the different carnitines.
Alcar= brain function/libido
Plcar = heart, ATP
GPLC= nitrogen retention/athletic performance/ heart health/erection strength
LCLT= androgen receptor density sensitivty/increased count
I recommend to take LCLT everyday, but the others work first day of ingestion, but of course better within due time.

 

[jakellpet]

The salt esthers separate how the body processes the different carnitines.
Alcar= brain function/libido
Plcar = heart, ATP
GPLC= nitrogen retention/athletic performance/ heart health/erection strength
LCLT= androgen receptor density sensitivty/increased count
I recommend to take LCLT everyday, but the others work first day of ingestion, but of course better within due time.

LHJO? :32:

 

[andrew732]

LHJO? :32:

LOL, what does that stand for, excuse my computer ignorance, still learning HAHAHAHA.

 

[EasyEJL]

okay, so I am doing the research on GPLC.

Whats the dealio with dosing the carnitines"?

Does this stuff NEED to be dosed ED like Beta-Alanine, Ribose, Creatine and the likes.

from all that I recall having read (and now I guess i'm going to need to go find it) that once you reach muscular saturation it takes over 3 days for carnitine stores to deplete, so every other day to every 3 days is possible to keep high levels of carnitine.

 

[Kristofer68SS]

The salt esthers separate how the body processes the different carnitines.
Alcar= brain function/libido
Plcar = heart, ATP
GPLC= nitrogen retention/athletic performance/ heart health/erection strength
LCLT= androgen receptor density sensitivty/increased count
I recommend to take LCLT everyday, but the others work first day of ingestion, but of course better within due time.

Thank you. I had a pretty good grasp on the breakdown of the carns, except for the loading and dosing of the proven clinicals and/or user feedback.

from all that I recall having read (and now I guess i'm going to need to go find it) that once you reach muscular saturation it takes over 3 days for carnitine stores to deplete, so every other day to every 3 days is possible to keep high levels of carnitine.

Thank you as well.

So, Easy, you recommend a loading phase, then dose on workout days. I have a friday-sunday workout hiatus, will that window be too large?

I workout M-W-Thu.......So i was thinking of loading/dosing on workout days and saturday as well.

 

[andrew732]

Thank you. I had a pretty good grasp on the breakdown of the carns, except for the loading and dosing of the proven clinicals and/or user feedback.



Thank you as well.

So, Easy, you recommend a loading phase, then dose on workout days. I have a friday-sunday workout hiatus, will that window be too large?

I workout M-W-Thu.......So i was thinking of loading/dosing on workout days and saturday as well.

When it comes to loading, remember all except the LCLT should be ran that way, it takes a while to increase androgen receptor count.:veryhappy:

 

[Kristofer68SS]

When it comes to loading, remember all except the LCLT should be ran that way, it takes a while to increase androgen receptor count.:veryhappy:

LCLT= ED dosing,correct?

 

[andrew732]

LCLT= ED dosing,correct?

honestly I would:veryhappy:

 

[Kristofer68SS]

honestly I would:veryhappy:

cool.

 

[EasyEJL]

So, Easy, you recommend a loading phase, then dose on workout days. I have a friday-sunday workout hiatus, will that window be too large?

I workout M-W-Thu.......So i was thinking of loading/dosing on workout days and saturday as well.

i'd do MWF for carnitine then. probably the difference tho isn't that large really in the end. I was trying to do mine every other day, but I keep forgetting to.

 

[Kristofer68SS]

i'd do MWF for carnitine then. probably the difference tho isn't that large really in the end. I was trying to do mine every other day, but I keep forgetting to.

lol

 

[poison]

MAN Body Octane has 1gr LCLT per serving, 50 servings. Quite a different purpose from PreMax, but good stuff nontheless.

 

[qwerty33]

is LCLT in premax?

 

[Jimbo15]

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[poison]

is LCLT in premax?

No, GPLC. These guys were talking LCLT, so I just threw BO in, for those unaware. BO is nothing like Premax, just to be clear.

 

[simmons]

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[qwerty33]

would pre max m w f be effective?

 

[TexasTitan]

Premax...I enjoyed it thoroughly.