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KLEEN takes Anabolic Control with Natabolic & SWOLE! + many other goodies.

Mighty fine pics in here Kleen. I just got back from Taiwan. I was 211.5lbs when I left and I returned 2 weeks later at 220lbs of pure FBA, Fierce Body Adipose. Time to get back on the wagon Invalid Link Removed

Better to gain 8 lbs than to lose 8 in two weeks. Can always get back on schedule once you are into the routine of things



I did hdrol back in Jan-Feb and joints were an issue. Hdrol does not aromatize which if one has has joint issues in the past this can be an issue.

Chris, what organization are you competing?
NCP, NGA possibly and REAL which broke away from FAME.
Happy 4th

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Happy Independence Day!
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Happy Independence Day everyone!

Happy Independence Day! Here is a Montage of patriotic sexiness!
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Workout update

Had 2 great workouts. Yesterday I got in the upper body and today I hit some lower body work. I didn't write down yesterdays numbers but I will give the details I do. Once I get into it I will probably remember most of it.

DB 30 degree Incline Flies - 35x15, 50x15, 52.5x15 PR for Reps, so was the 50x15, I do these with almost a straight arm and with my thumbs in and go VERY deep for stretch.

Assisted Chins - 194-60 x15, x15, x11 - going for reps here involve the back but not kill the elbow.

Lateral Raise Machine 90x15, 110x15, 110x13>90x8>70x7 These felt great shoulder has been a little touchy so I didn't want to go back up around the 130-140 range for e little but.

V Handle cable triceps extension - 110x30, 150x15, 180x15, Triceps are responding to the stimulus, and beginning to shine again.

Fast forward to today:

I just wanted to hit legs since I didn't get them in yesterday. Without boring you I ran into an old friend at the gym and we talked about nutrition too long. Not common for me but this was a one off thing and she is a nutritionist and body builder so...

Squats wide stance - 135x15, 245x15, 275x11 - I went as deep as I could go for these. I did not go crazy with the width but definitely wider than shoulder width. Next time I am starting on 275 and seeing how many I can get after a warm up. Work my way way to 15 with it and move up again.

Hack Squats 315x15, 315x15, 315x15 Since I did wide stance squats which don't hit my quads much compared to my hams and glutes I decided to hit some varied stance hacks for my quads and after this I was over with. High reps on legs equals VOMIT! But thats okay the workout and pump was well worth it. My legs are still big and veins still showing in my inner quad. I used NO Infuse on them first time on legs and they were swollen.
 
impressive lift my friend! Nice to see you getting those tricep numbers back where they belong
 
Solid numbers kleen, enjoy the holiday. Doing nothing but eating protein today, with a carb thrown in here and there.
 
Excellent lift! Numbers are going in the right direction...UP!!

I dont know but it has to be the Stoked and Tpro but all these pictures driving me nuts....I feel like i need to look at my bible everytime i look at a picture so i can guilt myself into not fapping....lol

But Im eager to see how your PCT goes...you really may like it more then the cycle...
 
all these pictures driving me nuts....I feel like i need to look at my bible everytime i look at a picture so i can guilt myself into not fapping....lol...

:nono::deal:

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I do believe I have put on some muscle.

Thanks guys, enjoyed those workouts. I did cardio yesterday and am doing it again today then get back on my schedule of Mon-Wed-Fri lifting.

Interesting update. I skipped my Saturday night carb up for a Sunday cheat day. I would say I ate about 3500 calories, I had my normal protein shake, almonds and grapefruit post workout. At the barbecue I started with meat only and ate about 5 smoked pork ribs no sauce. Then a few hours later had some brisket approximately 5-6 oz, and a piece of all home made blueberry cream cheese pie, then I had a vegetarian cookie somewhere in there, later another 5-6 oz serving of brisket followed by a piece of Pecan Pie, I finished the night off with a little more brisket, another piece of blueberry cream cheese pie and a brownie. AWESOME!!!! I was very careful not to have any other source of carbs other than my desserts. I also kept my brisket portions smaller and at the end of the night I was not miserable nor was my stomach blatantly protruding from over eating however I got A LOT OF CARBS IN!!!!

Fast forward to yesterday. I had been 193-194 most of this past week except for the day or so after my carb load. Well yesterday at the gym I was weighing in at large 203 lbs. I did my cardio and sat in the sauna for a little bit to sweat out some of the sub q and surprisingly there was not a lot there. My muscles were very full. As a matter of fact the shirt I was wearing at the barbecue filled up quickly. About an hour ofter the second piece of pie I was laughing and telling my friend "Man I am swelling up as we speak." He was like I know man I can see it. You are bigger now than when we got here. My shoulders, arms and chest just swole up, looked like I went and got a pump and came back to the party. The shirt I had on fit perfectly when I put it on. Tight enough in the right places to show my build but not tight so that I looked like a douche bag begging for attention. Well I was approaching the latter by the end of the day. The little slack I had in the sleeves filled, my shoulders and chest gradually began to press up snug against my shirt slightly stretching the fabric. It was awesome! I have never noticed myself filling up during a carb load I tend to do them at night and wake up full. This was a new experience and was very cool. I apparently did not go to far as I am fully recovered as far as waistline goes.

What all my rambling is getting at is at the beginning of this stack I was 198ish full of carbs but not waterlogged, and yesterday I was 203 full of carbs but not waterlogged.

I would suffice to say I have put on a decent amount of muscle so far this stack. Is it a science no, but as far as comparing apples to apples that is as good as it is going to get for now due to inconsistencies with my diet through out the log. We will see how much I weigh in tomorrow for a semi baseline although tomorrow is a carb up night just not spread as far apart from the last one so I can stay on my Wednesday, Saturday carb up schedule.
 
Kleen I'm thinking of utilizing Xtract from Axis Labs after a carb up...have you given that kind of thought?
 
Good to see the swole stack is doing you good. Seems like everyone loves it. Just bought one the other day o.O Its sitting in Amurica though
 
Kleen I'm thinking of utilizing Xtract from Axis Labs after a carb up...have you given that kind of thought?
I have used taraxatone xt and it worked but I was already dry and it pulled from my muscle leaving me flat as a pancake. However after a big carb up where spill over is not a concern until post carb clean up it would have been effective.

My recommendation though would be don't drink too much water during the carb up. Then after your carb up put 2 Cups of Epson salt in the bathtub, get in and run the water as hot as you can stand it and submerge as much of your body and head as you can. Stay in for about 10-15 minutes. Get out towel off and go to sleep. You can aslo wipe down with alchohal and close the pores up so they don't pull any water back in. You will wake up both dry and full. The salt changes the balance of the water so that it pulls water from under your skin while the heat opens the poors and makes you sweat. This is how a lot of fighters cut weight the healthy way and now some body builders are picking up on it. I have done it with great success. Oufinny has tried this as well at my recommendation and had really good results. This way you don't have to worry about a diuretic pulling water out of the organs and what not. The fact you still have carbs digesting and pulling the rest of the subcutaneous water into the muscle helps as well. This is a very effective method and is overnight as opposed to a few days with a diuretic.

Good to see the swole stack is doing you good. Seems like everyone loves it. Just bought one the other day o.O Its sitting in Amurica though
I am currently running the Natabolic Stack and it is really treating me nicely. I have 2 weeks before starting the SWOLE Stack but I love the SWOLE Stack too. Add the Formadrol into that equation and I am looking at just continuing to make gains, this will be more of a stack extender than a PCT.
 
I have used taraxatone xt and it worked but I was already dry and it pulled from my muscle leaving me flat as a pancake. However after a big carb up where spill over is not a concern until post carb clean up it would have been effective.

My recommendation though would be don't drink too much water during the carb up. Then after your carb up put 2 Cups of Epson salt in the bathtub, get in and run the water as hot as you can stand it and submerge as much of your body and head as you can. Stay in for about 10-15 minutes. Get out towel off and go to sleep. You can aslo wipe down with alchohal and close the pores up so they don't pull any water back in. You will wake up both dry and full. The salt changes the balance of the water so that it pulls water from under your skin while the heat opens the poors and makes you sweat. This is how a lot of fighters cut weight the healthy way and now some body builders are picking up on it. I have done it with great success. Oufinny has tried this as well at my recommendation and had really good results. This way you don't have to worry about a diuretic pulling water out of the organs and what not. The fact you still have carbs digesting and pulling the rest of the subcutaneous water into the muscle helps as well. This is a very effective method and is overnight as opposed to a few days with a diuretic.


I am currently running the Natabolic Stack and it is really treating me nicely. I have 2 weeks before starting the SWOLE Stack but I love the SWOLE Stack too. Add the Formadrol into that equation and I am looking at just continuing to make gains, this will be more of a stack extender than a PCT.

great post

copied and posted into my library

thx
 
Evening workout today.

I have to say I had a GREAT night of sleep. So good in fact I turned the alarm off this morning and slept the extra 2 hours I needed from not sleeping well a couple nights. Mind has not been shutting off at night recently. I have so much going on and have my boss on stand by regarding PTO. I have to strip my low pitch roof down to the decking, replace a deck board or two and then re-shingle the area. It is about 1300 sq foot so it will be a good bit of work. I have been waiting for a 5-7 day stretch of clear weather and am putting off my son's visitation until then so he can help me with it. Worried we may get a hurricane or something before I get a dry spell to do it.

I will be taking another walk at lunch today to keep the fat coming off as well. Just trying to avoid that tutu. Tonight I hit up a full body and that should be fun.
 
Oufinny has tried this as well at my recommendation and had really good results.

Kleen speaks the truth though I didn't have Epsom salts handy at the time, just HOT water and next morning down 4 pounds looking dry and cut. This method may not be the most comfortable since the water is hot and you end up sweating like a madman for 15 minutes BUT I would do this over a diuretic any day. Like Kleen said, safe, effective and minimal if any risk of dehydration.
 
I did the bathtub trick Monday night and I was down .6% on Tuesday. still have a little water but I'll be dry by tommorrow no doubt. just was wondering about the xtract, I got a bottle and will devise a way to use it effectively after a carb up.
 
I did the bathtub trick Monday night and I was down .6% on Tuesday. still have a little water but I'll be dry by tommorrow no doubt. just was wondering about the xtract, I got a bottle and will devise a way to use it effectively after a carb up.

I know nothing about proper application of a product as such, let us know what you devise and the results. So many options, I think its cool to see what various methods work for people and what don't. Plus, if you got it, nothing wrong with giving it a go.
 
I tried this once a few months back and can attest to how well it works. I added some asparagus that night as well. The wife couldn't keep her hands off me the next day... perhaps that explains child #8 being on the way... lol
 
Big, I have never actually used the Xtract, no point of reference. I would assume similiar to the Taraxatone. I would say the second day on it was when i really noticed I was peeing a lot more but I noticed it the first day. If you use it let us know how well it worked. If I am cutting it close on my abs I will definitely be employing some water tricks to avoid that tutu. LOL
 
Yah taraxatone gave me issues as well.. fuggin water management is just a bitch...
 
Yah taraxatone gave me issues as well.. fuggin water management is just a bitch...

Amen, I plan on being in such good condition for my next show I won't NEED it at all. I will just be shredded and ready to go on stage. Keep my hydration up the whole time. With a good carb up 2-3 days before the show then right back to my lower carb diet. My entire prep was a practice run for this method and I looked amazing before trying the Taraxatone and sodium crap that flattened me out and dropped so much of my mass out from under me.
 
Amen, I plan on being in such good condition for my next show I won't NEED it at all. I will just be shredded and ready to go on stage. Keep my hydration up the whole time. With a good carb up 2-3 days before the show then right back to my lower carb diet. My entire prep was a practice run for this method and I looked amazing before trying the Taraxatone and sodium crap that flattened me out and dropped so much of my mass out from under me.

Now that I have a better idea where I have to be, I won't have problems either. The less tramatic the better. Skiploading was ok but I had a harder time keeping full than I thought I would, then when I tried to carb back up I was desensitized to the effects, you're supposed to eat fast food at this point and sure enought he next day I was huge and vascular after pigging out. The fug with all this severe stuff. I am going to be pretty aggressive with the carbs the last few days but cleaner carbs.
 
Now that I have a better idea where I have to be, I won't have problems either. The less tramatic the better. Skiploading was ok but I had a harder time keeping full than I thought I would, then when I tried to carb back up I was desensitized to the effects, you're supposed to eat fast food at this point and sure enought he next day I was huge and vascular after pigging out. The fug with all this severe stuff. I am going to be pretty aggressive with the carbs the last few days but cleaner carbs.

after what you went through this last year I fully agree. Glad to hear also that you are not bulking but keeping the BF moderate. Experience is an amazing thing my friend!!!
 
after what you went through this last year I fully agree. Glad to hear also that you are not bulking but keeping the BF moderate. Experience is an amazing thing my friend!!!

I knew a lot of this already, I was looking for an easier softer way... :ponder:
 
Now that I have a better idea where I have to be, I won't have problems either. The less tramatic the better. Skiploading was ok but I had a harder time keeping full than I thought I would, then when I tried to carb back up I was desensitized to the effects, you're supposed to eat fast food at this point and sure enought he next day I was huge and vascular after pigging out. The fug with all this severe stuff. I am going to be pretty aggressive with the carbs the last few days but cleaner carbs.

I thought from my experience with my usual carb refeeds and the ones I cheated quite a bit on that you were carbing up a little early. I wouldn't have been able to hold the fullness that long or keep from spilling over if I tried eating carbs after to maintain it that long. However I figured you had it all timed out for you and didn't want to suggest anything based of of my physiology and mess you up. Wednesday or Thursday will be my carb up for it but it will be cleaner carbs as you mentioned. I will drink lots of water up until the day of the show then sip and begin eating carbs if I need any more. If it is a morning pre judging I will get up early enough to have 4-5 jours early and assess myself and add carbs without minimal water intake at that point wth the help of some GDAs. I am going to run several test runs since I will be low carbing it I won't have any problems using my carb refeeds as practice runs. I can play with 150-400grams of carbs all throughout my next prep. I plan to start it at about 7-8% and 12-14 weeks out so I can coast in slowly with all my muscle intact. However every carb up I do from here forward is going to be a practice run. I will be watching how my body responds, how I can manipulate water with food in the following days after the refeeds. All of that is going into my rolodex of info so there is no guess work the day of the show.
 
I thought from my experience with my usual carb refeeds and the ones I cheated quite a bit on that you were carbing up a little early. I wouldn't have been able to hold the fullness that long or keep from spilling over if I tried eating carbs after to maintain it that long. However I figured you had it all timed out for you and didn't want to suggest anything based of of my physiology and mess you up. Wednesday or Thursday will be my carb up for it but it will be cleaner carbs as you mentioned. I will drink lots of water up until the day of the show then sip and begin eating carbs if I need any more. If it is a morning pre judging I will get up early enough to have 4-5 jours early and assess myself and add carbs without minimal water intake at that point wth the help of some GDAs. I am going to run several test runs since I will be low carbing it I won't have any problems using my carb refeeds as practice runs. I can play with 150-400grams of carbs all throughout my next prep. I plan to start it at about 7-8% and 12-14 weeks out so I can coast in slowly with all my muscle intact. However every carb up I do from here forward is going to be a practice run. I will be watching how my body responds, how I can manipulate water with food in the following days after the refeeds. All of that is going into my rolodex of info so there is no guess work the day of the show.

Yah that's another thing, I won't use cycling so much just low carbs and refeeds. Keeping things predictable is key for me.
 
Tower 2000 great workout!

I wasn't able to make it to the gym but I used the Tower2000 I just put the full weight on and went after rows pull downs, presses leg movements and what not until I couldn't move. I found myself on hand and knees gasping a few times I was going so intensely. Just got back up after a few seconds and started again. I was dripping sweat everywhere and in the end I had quite a nice pump. Composition is changing nicely too. Here I am standing relaxed although much furrier than last pics.
Weight 198-
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looking great my brother!!!! since the tutu is looking out of the question... how bout a skirt and heals????
 
looking great my brother!!!! since the tutu is looking out of the question... how bout a skirt and heals????

I think he needs to get out of the woods!!:yikes:
 
Muscles are full, you are lean. Good work Chris.

You say you did modeling competition. I have had to choice of competing in modeling, I have always felt more comfortable bodybuilding because I am more a bodybuilding type. However, have you ever done any modeling where the magazines paid you?

or have you got a modeling portfolio or a comp card where the people that choose the models can scout you out?
 
I wasn't able to make it to the gym but I used the Tower2000 I just put the full weight on and went after rows pull downs, presses leg movements and what not until I couldn't move. I found myself on hand and knees gasping a few times I was going so intensely. Just got back up after a few seconds and started again. I was dripping sweat everywhere and in the end I had quite a nice pump. Composition is changing nicely too. Here I am standing relaxed although much furrier than last pics.
Weight 198-
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You are looking very good! abs are coming in! :)

I think Resolve has the same pair of yellow shorts. I call 'em his nerd shorts. :lol:
 
I'm having a hell of a time getting rid of those love handles o.O

More weighted ab work I guess lol.
 
I think Resolve has the same pair of yellow shorts. I call 'em his nerd shorts. :lol:

We might be nerds.......but at least we're super nerds!!!

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I'm having a hell of a time getting rid of those love handles o.O

More weighted ab work I guess lol.

Weighted ab work could backfire on you and make those obliques even thicker.
Do unweighted work. Lots of broom twists and unweighted side bends, plus roman chair sit-ups while twisting from side to side. :deal::thumbsup:
 
Weighted ab work could backfire on you and make those obliques even thicker.
Do unweighted work. Lots of broom twists and unweighted side bends, plus roman chair sit-ups while twisting from side to side. :deal::thumbsup:

Mine are thick as hell and so much the better when I get cut... but yah enogh is enough for me. I use light weight movements that are still difficult. When I train abs my rule of thumb is if can do it more than 20 times then it's not heavy enough. Even my medicine ball work is done at an extreme decline. I will pre-exhaust with wheel of death if it gets too easy...
 
Muscles are full, you are lean. Good work Chris.

You say you did modeling competition. I have had to choice of competing in modeling, I have always felt more comfortable bodybuilding because I am more a bodybuilding type. However, have you ever done any modeling where the magazines paid you?

or have you got a modeling portfolio or a comp card where the people that choose the models can scout you out?

I actually never pushed for the modeling although I placed higher in my modeling than I did my bodybuilding due to coming in flat. The most recognition I have is my pics on the cover and interior of the Asteroid Stack manual and the print ads they put out in the magazines. However they got my friggin name wrong... I have been asked on multiple occasions at the gym... "Hey aren't you the guy from the Asteroid Stack manual? Scott Tucker?" or Arent you that guy from the ad in Musclular Development. However I didn't get paid for that I just got some free products for allowing them to use my picture.

You are looking very good! abs are coming in! :)

I think Resolve has the same pair of yellow shorts. I call 'em his nerd shorts. :lol:
I loved this. LOL Nerd shorts. Maybe I should go back to the old Football PT shorts eh? Those little bitty gray shorts. What the heck is up with that anyway? Felt like I was auditioning for a Nair commercial in those.

I'm having a hell of a time getting rid of those love handles o.O

More weighted ab work I guess lol.

Nope just keep cutting man. You probably have good obliques like I do. Good obliques hang over the side of your hips even when very lean. Even the tiniest bit of fat will make them look like a love handle but not the case.

In my case a little extra skin is there at the oblique going around the back back and then some at the bottom of my abs from me being such a hefty boy most of my life... So it looks worse. I have to get a little creative with posing as i get leaner to keep the skin pulled tight. Hopefully once I am lean and stay that way I will be good to go.

Weighted ab work could backfire on you and make those obliques even thicker.
Do unweighted work. Lots of broom twists and unweighted side bends, plus roman chair sit-ups while twisting from side to side. :deal::thumbsup:

Mine are thick as hell and so much the better when I get cut... but yah enogh is enough for me. I use light weight movements that are still difficult. When I train abs my rule of thumb is if can do it more than 20 times then it's not heavy enough. Even my medicine ball work is done at an extreme decline. I will pre-exhaust with wheel of death if it gets too easy...

Both suggestions are great I get the best core/oblique work from doing what I call fighter or boxer blocks. Stand with your feet about shoulder width apart and get your fist up aroun your cheek bones and your elbows in tight and rock back and forth explosively like you are blocking rib shots. Your elbows should basically touch your hip bones on each side do this while holding your abs in tight and exhaling sharply. I also add a little forward and back wards motion as well to get more angles but use a lot of force trying to move as quickly as possible as if truly trying to protect your ribs from a body blow. After 50 reps of this a rep being going to both sides once you will feel exactly why I suggest these. After 3 sets it will be no question for sure. They will cinch your waist in really well too because it works the entire waist girdle. Give it a shot. I may put a video up later if this doesn't make sense in the description.
 
Testing Tower 2000 - Finalized my workout plan for recovery and cutting.

Hey my daughter started recording the end of my workout with the Tower 2000 the other day. SO I cut the footage from it that was actually usable and put it up here. Oh she did a Red Robin commercial verbatim with the TV and somehow I cut it out of here but it was too funny.



On the workout front, I have figured out what to do since my shoulder is still tweaking. I am going to limit myself to 1 heavier workout a week and the other two will be the one I was doing a while back. I will do the following as the 1st and 2nd workout of the week and for my 3rd workout I will do a very similar workout but using 10 reps and 150-200% the weight you see here.

Basics of workout are 20 reps no rest between exercises do 3 non-stop rotations of the giant set. Weights are increased in percentages of a previously obtained 10 rep max on all lifts in these increments of 10 rep max: I did not try to find the maxes just estimated them.

Weights listed below are Week 1 30%, Weeks 2&3 40%, Week 4 50%, Weeks 5&6 60% of 10 rep maxes

Dumbell Workout 1

Dead Lifts 30, 40, 50, 60
Flat Bench Press 30, 40, 50, 60
Squat 30, 40, 50, 60
Wide DB rows 24, 32, 40, 48
DB Romanian DL 24, 32, 40, 48
DB Shrugs 24, 32, 40, 48
Arnold Press 18, 24, 30, 36
Reverse Lunge 18, 24, 30, 36
Close grip pushup 4 sets of 20

Dumbell Workout 2

DB Squat 30, 40, 50, 60
Incline DB Press 30, 40, 50, 60
Step Up 30, 40, 50, 60
One Arm DB Row 30, 40, 50, 60
Romanian Dead Lift 24, 32, 40, 48
Overhead DB Press 24, 32, 40, 48
Dumbell Lunge 24, 32, 40, 48
Side Row 13.5, 18, 22.5, 27
DB Curl 13.5, 18, 22.5, 27


Workout 3 Heavier, all dumbbell and still done as giant set but with 10 reps.

Dead Lifts 45, 60, 75, 90
Flat Bench Press 45, 60, 75, 90
Squat 45, 60, 75, 90
Wide DB rows 35, 45, 55, 65
DB Romanian DL 35, 45, 55, 65
DB Shrugs 35, 45, 55, 65
Arnold Press 27.5, 35, 45, 55
Reverse Lunge 27.5, 35, 45, 55
Close grip pushup BW 10 reps, Exlosive up 2 second negative, 3 SN, 4SN, 5SN

After the heavier workout I will get 2 days of rest before hitting weights again then back to the lighter weights.

As you can see this keeps me quite light for 6 weeks (except for the once a week heavier lifts)and will cut me up and my conditioning will go through the roof. According to the writers of the program most people actually build some LBM on this program and me adding in the heavier weight day should add to that likelihood so let's see what we can do. Admittedly I have never made it through the entire 6 weeks of this program. So my goal is to complete it. I hope the heavier day will be enough to make me want to keep up with it. It really is one of the hardest workouts I have ever done so to complete 6 weeks of this will be an astonishing feat in and of itself.
 
As always Kleen. . Looking great big man!!! Doing very well. . .always detailed and keep ripp'm
 
Good job mate, I hear ya on the twisty movements, I like to do a seated version.

Sit on the ground and keep your legs off, back off, just ass on the ground.

Ball your hands together in a double fist, like you are going to monkey crush some guy, and twist left, touch the hands to the ground, and back to the right. Do that for 50 reps and tell me if you are not smoked lol.

Heading to chow, be on in a few.
 
As always Kleen. . Looking great big man!!! Doing very well. . .always detailed and keep ripp'm
Thanks, this workout I am doing will be a beast. I should be shredding up like nobody's business. Maybe even get to look like you!
LOL...... "Take off your shirt, please"


Awesome
She is the best. I am going to have to find that spot in the video where she does the Red Robin commercial it is SOOOOOO CUTE! Last year during my prep she got so used to seeing me posing my side chest and triceps that every picture she took for a while she stood sideways twisted her upper body towards the camera and spiked her calf. It was friggin awesome! She is my biggest fan. The leaner I get the more excited she is to see me flexing. She has been begging me to do a posing practice on video again. I told her I am not quite to that point yet. LOL In her eyes I am though and that is a great feeling. Can you believe I am 1 week away from the end of my Natadrol stack already. I am contemplating starting the Formadrol a little early at a lower dose. However i still have another 1.5 bottles of Nata from the special so I am thinking I may just extend the Nata until I finish the bottles off. Maybe go up to 10 a day.

Oh speaking of... I think I noticed my boys get a tiny fraction smaller.... I guess between the pSARM, and the higher dosed Natadrol with the Receptor making the receptors more receptive I am getting into that zone where the mild PCT is going to be required. However not much smaller at all. The STOKED should start taking care of it. I did not do pre stack blood work so I don't know for sure but I can tell you my testes are the tiniest bit smaller over the past couple days. OH NO!!!!!!! and OH YES!!!! all at the same time. If I have have enough androgens running around to shut me down a little it makes sense that I am looking so full and big. Hard to believe in those pictures I was basically carb depleted and I look so big. I didn't carb up until after that workout, and it had been 3 days since I ate many carbs.

Good job mate, I hear ya on the twisty movements, I like to do a seated version.

Sit on the ground and keep your legs off, back off, just ass on the ground.

Ball your hands together in a double fist, like you are going to monkey crush some guy, and twist left, touch the hands to the ground, and back to the right. Do that for 50 reps and tell me if you are not smoked lol.

Heading to chow, be on in a few.
Yeah I have done this, it is a beast! We do it with medicine balls in our Fighter's Elite class.
 
I actually never pushed for the modeling although I placed higher in my modeling than I did my bodybuilding due to coming in flat. The most recognition I have is my pics on the cover and interior of the Asteroid Stack manual and the print ads they put out in the magazines. However they got my friggin name wrong... I have been asked on multiple occasions at the gym... "Hey aren't you the guy from the Asteroid Stack manual? Scott Tucker?" or Arent you that guy from the ad in Musclular Development. However I didn't get paid for that I just got some free products for allowing them to use my picture.

I know about the wrong name feeling my last name is Smeton and is an unusual name and throughout my life many have pronounced it wrong,School, appointments,etc seems like the more educated pronounced it right. Its actually pronounced Smee-ton. To spell your name wrong,esp your first name is a huge mistake.
 
I know about the wrong name feeling my last name is Smeton and is an unusual name and throughout my life many have pronounced it wrong,School, appointments,etc seems like the more educated pronounced it right. Its actually pronounced Smee-ton. To spell your name wrong,esp your first name is a huge mistake.

Right, heck they got two of the letters right. S and C. Chris, and Scott not sure how they hell that mix up happened.... However spelling my last name incorrectly can cause a much bigger problem as i am sure you can imagine.
 
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