best prohormone for well-being?

redman24

redman24

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hi, this is a rather simple question,
which prohormones have you guys made the best experiences with in terms of well-being, energy, mood, cns recovery etc.
thanks for any input

fabian
 
Im not sure id recommend using a PH for well-being and energy. Perhaps a stim or something like that would be better.
 
Alot of prohormones can cause...

Back pumps
lethargy
irritability
liver problems (without the proper supps of course)
bp and lipid problems


Not sure that a PH would be ideal for increasing one's sense of well being. Try a test booster instead.
 
no, no stims.
to put the question differently, if one was to take a prohormone and ones most dreaded side effects would be lethargy and depression, which prohormone would be most unlikely to cause these or even provide a positive experience in terms of well-being.

thanks
 
redman24 said:
no, no stims.
to put the question differently, if one was to take a prohormone and ones most dreaded side effects would be lethargy and depression, which prohormone would be most unlikely to cause these or even provide a positive experience in terms of well-being.

thanks
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none, they're not intended for that. when taking something that works you're gonna get sides bro, why do you think "supplements" that do little to nothing are legal and do not reap the gains of aas and ph....
 
With big rewards there are risks involved. You are breaking past what is naturally attainable, and switching on anabolic overdrive, straining many of you internal organs for mass gains.
 
i took ultra mass from aps nutrition (phera and tren clones stacked), they don't make it anymore. but i have done 5 cycles about to start my sixth. and ultra mass made me feel awesome, i took my support supps but didn't have any sides. my recovery was way faster in the gym. i my gains were going fast. i had energy all day. i was just walking around and i'd get little pumps. i loved it. maybe the mental part was placebo but it was really putting me in a good mood.
 
Kaydoh said:
i took ultra mass from aps nutrition (phera and tren clones stacked), they don't make it anymore. but i have done 5 cycles about to start my sixth. and ultra mass made me feel awesome, i took my support supps but didn't have any sides. my recovery was way faster in the gym. i my gains were going fast. i had energy all day. i was just walking around and i'd get little pumps. i loved it. maybe the mental part was placebo but it was really putting me in a good mood.
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You may have not noticed any sides.. And that's great. HOWEVER.. this isnt the case with everyone.
Being able to recover faster, get pumped, and throw weight around in the gym gives ANYONE a good mental mindstate. Doesn't mean you'll feel like that all day OP... Just sayin
 
yeah i wont be taking them anyways, its just something that regularly pops into my mind when something is hindering my workout performance, like constantly being tired,weak and feeling like ****.since no doctor knows whats wrong with me, i tend to get this, **** it, lets at least have some fun with roids attitude, then again i have always come to my senses.
actually its quite funny, even if i try to make myself take something, i always end up with a reason that will prevent me from it.seem to be the opposite of others lol.
 
i did a test e / tren cycle and even tho ppl complain about tren sides i felt fcuking invincible the entire cycle. Wanted sex like 10x a day. Felt like i cld run thru a brick wall. But then again the test e / tren are not PHs.
 
Most orals tend to make you feel like ****.
If you want something that delivers results and doesn't make you feel like ****, you want test.
 
My Epi/1-T cycle made me feel amazing, other than the HORRIBLE back pumps. I felt like I was made of stone and that there was nothing I couldn't lift. It was the best feeling I've ever had. Of course that was my first and only cycle so far. :)
 
OP, i was going to ask you about what non steroidal supplements you took but then i remmeber you told me about your drive/hghup/phyto-test/activate xtreme stack.
 
Cassavus said:
My Epi/1-T cycle made me feel amazing, other than the HORRIBLE back pumps. I felt like I was made of stone and that there was nothing I couldn't lift. It was the best feeling I've ever had. Of course that was my first and only cycle so far. :)
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Looks like it was a nice run. I have two bottles of TD 1-T and looking into grabbing epi. If I ever jump into the fun side that is.

appleyard said:
placebodrol


well being is in your head yo!
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Not as much, I kind of know what this guy is talking about.

I struggle to wake up, have mood swings, suffer from severe lethargy. I dont use stims often, cant even drink coffee atm due to an ulcer issue.

Thinking of getting test levels checked because my attention span is .5 seconds, my ability to remember, think, care is almost gone.

Its not always all in your head. Your mind is the motherboard, but if there is something wrong with your graphics card, it cant override that. It suffers from it.
 
Its not always all in your head. Your mind is the motherboard, but if there is something wrong with your graphics card, it cant override that. It suffers from it.
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if your graphics card fails, install your onboard graphics chipset drivers!
 
Only thing i ever found to give sense of well being/energy, was test. most others seem to gimme lethargy.
 
Dermacrine gave me a good sense of well-being without any negative effects but I wouldn't recommend taking it just for the well-being effects. It's still a PH albeit a mild one.
 
Although I haven't taken it yet, I have stocked up on it :) I plan on using it this winter when I lean bulk.... M1,ADD

From what I've researched and from other have told me there experiences were, M1,ADD has a coversion rate of about 12-15% to Dbol, and as we all know...Dbol has the reputation of give you a "sense of well being"

Anyone else wanna chime in?
 
epi made me feel pretty good, i got a weird energy or happiness from it, especially the morning dose, i'd be sitting at work with some evil smile on my face....just don't dose to late at night

the one/d plex i've also read can give you that feeling as well

with that said your messing with ph's here so you can't expect this to happen with any of them and ph's might not be the best thing to turn to for well-being
 
i have returned.another one of those times...since nothing much is happening in improving my physical state and lately it has really negatively affected my gym performance i may as well finally go for the experience.
yet i still cannot decide which compund to choose.
something that drastically increases agression, energy, strength and gives me lots of "aaaaaarrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhgrgrgrggrgrgrgrg" would be great.
i was really interested in pp's tren liquavade, but i am unsure weather that might increase lethargy or not.

so tren,havoc,h-drol,pheraplex,m1,4add or what? i am unable to decide, since unlike with natural products this is a much more complicated decision for me.
please help me make the right one

thanks a lot
 
lennoxchi said:
that feeling doesn't come in a pill or pin it's comes from your heart and mind
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Bingo!! You gotta have the fire in the first place.. That song in your heart.. That pep in your step. SD made me feel epic and put me in a great mood while I read in so many logs it made people feel like ****. To think that one thing is going to make you feel the way you want to feel is almost like you're searching for a void in yourself. Not hating just giving my two cents.
 
no, people just dont understand something until they have experienced it.
when you have a physical problem that hasnt been solved which makes you constantly extremely tired and weak its bad enough.as long as i could somehow manage to work out at least that aspect wasnt anything to worry about.
but when its so bad that the body is unable to perform anymore then it becomes an issue in that regard.it has nothing to do with motivation.imagine trying to work out having the flu.
as of now, work, study, anything like that is not possible, staying awake a full day without stimulants is barely possible (and no, i dont use them all the time, i sleep).now that recently even working out with stimulants is not working anymore, i am debating weather to take something that can help me at least maintain some kind of muscularity and strength under these conditions.
 
you seem to have really liked it.i have read a few reports of people experiencing lethargy though.i suppose one can never predict how such a compound will effect you.
i am actually debating weather to use low dose test instead.i may go to an endocrinologist, but i doubt i have low testosterone since other typical symptoms are absent, yet am wondering weather the test may still somewhat help increase physical energy.i want to start uni in october and it doesnt look too good when on a bad day i am physically incapable of even buying groceries...
 
M Drol, Anadraulic Pump and Hemavol gave me that AAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGG every day I used that combo.
 
XxGetLeanxX said:
Although I haven't taken it yet, I have stocked up on it :) I plan on using it this winter when I lean bulk.... M1,ADD

From what I've researched and from other have told me there experiences were, M1,ADD has a coversion rate of about 12-15% to Dbol, and as we all know...Dbol has the reputation of give you a "sense of well being"

Anyone else wanna chime in?
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I have like 6 bottles- It does convert to dbol at a 15% rate- but it is also anabolic on its own before conversion I believe
 
well, i have two ordering four next month
 
i have just come to the conclusion that it seems rather pointless to feel great and strong for 4-8 weeks on a ph and then return to the same problem.therefore i think i should probably go with test.something like 250mg every 10 days.keep in mind, i am not looking to get huuuuuge on this, just improve energy, strength, stamina etc. and somehow get on with life...

is it possible to have low testosterone despite having no libido issues?i am asking because i am unsure weather to even go to an endocrinologist or if its not even worth the time/money.

thanks for advice
 
P-plex, test, and dbol is supposed to be very euphoric, but ive never run it. but i can personally vouch for phera and test... phera puts me in the best f*cking mood... feel like i can do anything... and thats NOT placebo, its the phera... trust me
 
GnastyMcNasty said:
P-plex, test, and dbol is supposed to be very euphoric, but ive never run it. but i can personally vouch for phera and test... phera puts me in the best f*cking mood... feel like i can do anything... and thats NOT placebo, its the phera... trust me
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ANother satisfied phera user :)..

You know they still sell the original hehe..
 
dosage guys?10 or 20 mg? would like to run longer than for 4 weeks, maybe six.
will see if i get hold of some test and take that at 250mg/e10d.

so now im almost ready to actually do it.have always been curious but willing to stay natural.and under normal conditions i would.but right now i need some support.

assuming i suddenly feel fantastic on the phera, it would be an interesting starting point.on the other hand, i would have a hard time coming off.
i guess however that test should definitely do something to help so i will see about that.

any more advice?how liver toxic is the phera?any support supps i should definitely take along with it?
thanks for the help guys
 
redman24 said:
dosage guys?10 or 20 mg? would like to run longer than for 4 weeks, maybe six.
will see if i get hold of some test and take that at 250mg/e10d.

so now im almost ready to actually do it.have always been curious but willing to stay natural.and under normal conditions i would.but right now i need some support.

assuming i suddenly feel fantastic on the phera, it would be an interesting starting point.on the other hand, i would have a hard time coming off.
i guess however that test should definitely do something to help so i will see about that.

any more advice?how liver toxic is the phera?any support supps i should definitely take along with it?
thanks for the help guys
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You will feel phera the first day..

It is toxic, but not as harsh as superdrol

You want

30-40 mg per day.. It is mild sides wise.. and wet..
 
thanks a lot for your help.is it possible to run for up to six weeks then or absolutely not recommended?if you suggest 30-40 mg,then i suppose 20mg for a longer duration should be fine.or would you say that it wouldnt be effective at that dose?as i said, i dont need anything drastic in terms of effects.
 
redman24 said:
thanks a lot for your help.is it possible to run for up to six weeks then or absolutely not recommended?if you suggest 30-40 mg,then i suppose 20mg for a longer duration should be fine.or would you say that it wouldnt be effective at that dose?as i said, i dont need anything drastic in terms of effects.
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Ok, 6 weeks at 30mg would be fine. Take milk thistle every day and you are G2G.. I would run it for 40mg the whole 6 weeks though..
 
well, i am small ***** in that regard,haha,and i think i will respond quite well, since it will be my first experience with a steroid.
will take milk thistle and maybe a cycle support, and am wondering now weather something like sustain alpha would make sense on cycle or weather i should just leave the phera be , lol
sorry for asking so many questions, but i think i will really do it this time and i want to be properly prepared.

thanks again
 
redman24 said:
well, i am small ***** in that regard,haha,and i think i will respond quite well, since it will be my first experience with a steroid.
will take milk thistle and maybe a cycle support, and am wondering now weather something like sustain alpha would make sense on cycle or weather i should just leave the phera be , lol
sorry for asking so many questions, but i think i will really do it this time and i want to be properly prepared.

thanks again
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Phera would be a great first time cycle IMO.. Solid gains in size and strength. An endless appetite and you feel oh so good :).. Save sustain alpha for PCT..
 
now you have really gotten me excited haha.will put my order in tonight, then i should receive it by the middle to end of next week.ha, cant wait.
will definitely report back on how its going.
 
gamer2be08 said:
Ok, 6 weeks at 30mg would be fine. Take milk thistle every day and you are G2G.. I would run it for 40mg the whole 6 weeks though..
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That's so excessive for this guy's stats and desires.

IMO it's kinda stupid to take any PH for a sense of "well being." I don't even get this from phera, or test, or anything. There may be a hole that steroids won't fill. Drugs may not be the answer here.
 
UnrealMachine said:
That's so excessive for this guy's stats and desires.

IMO it's kinda stupid to take any PH for a sense of "well being." I don't even get this from phera, or test, or anything. There may be a hole that steroids won't fill. Drugs may not be the answer here.
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I didnt really read his whole story, I just thought he wanted a decent cycle, and one that would also make him feel good while on..
 
gamer2be08 said:
I didnt really read his whole story, I just thought he wanted a decent cycle, and one that would also make him feel good while on..
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this guy doesn't know what's wrong with him but hopes that cycling something will make him feel better

it's not the right way to go about it

OP if you feel all depressed and emo about it blah blah, you could try a cycle but i still don't think it's the right reasons. The whole first page is full of people trying to dissuade you. 20mg of Phera will be plenty. Though you are far better off with test.

Even better, get your testosterone levels checked since it seems you haven't done that yet... : /
 
I agree with the above posts. But to answer the original question, no PH's gave me a sense of well being. However, DTHC does a decent job and S4 (sarm) really makes me feel great.
 
hm, im not feeling depressed and emo or whatever...i just feel like **** physically and was looking for something that would improve my gym performance/physical well being in terms of performance, so that i can at least continue to train properly.i am not looking for a steroid to cure my health problems!!!
i have always had the thought in the back of my head, but wanted to stay natural, because i knew i could make all the progress i wanted.so i feel that now is probably the best time to try it, if ever.might still look into test though
 
redman24 said:
hm, im not feeling depressed and emo or whatever...i just feel like **** physically and was looking for something that would improve my gym performance/physical well being in terms of performance, so that i can at least continue to train properly.i am not looking for a steroid to cure my health problems!!!
i have always had the thought in the back of my head, but wanted to stay natural, because i knew i could make all the progress i wanted.so i feel that now is probably the best time to try it, if ever.might still look into test though
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test is awesome bro but is something i feel would benefit you later in life 30+ years old when test is dropping naturally anyway.

when was the last time you changed your diet?
training routine?
taken a week off?
 
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