SouthernCharm
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Well that just took me a good half hour or so to read everything from page 1 to now, but I'm caught up! Very interesting thread and you haven't even started yetlol. I am really intrigued about this, because I just finished a bulk of my own and am starting my cut this Monday - still trying to hammer out the details on what products I'm going to bring into play a little ways in, though (what I'm doing is going supplement free aside from staples for the first couple weeks with just slightly lowered cals; adding in cardio slowly and then tapering cals/adding more cardio as necessary when progress seems to stall - and then bringing help into play to just blast through the rest of the cut).
Your thread has been a very big learning experience for me because I've been natural, but have toyed around with the idea of changing that on this cut. I've researched all of this stuff for a long time now just to understand how each thing works. We'll see what I decide...
Just a little advice on keto, since it's what I ran in my last cut: I would personally look at carb cycling for a little while initially. I'd front-load my carbs and gradually taper all of them down (i.e. if high carb day used to be 400g, bring it down to 300 next week and make your moderate and low days reflect the percentage shifts as well, etc.). Then, I'd jump into the keto diet once even your high carb days were lower range (your body should like this a little bit more and it should help keep fat-burning high). At that point, once you're starting keto, I like to stay at as low of carbs as possible (not even fruit) and every 3rd or 4th day do a carb-refeed meal (usually @ ~150-200g of carbs - just carbs, though, keep protein and fat to an absolute minimum at this meal and use it as your final feeding a few hours before bed). Pre-load a nutrient partitioner to that carb meal to ensure it's all being sent to muscle as well. For the initial start of keto, you may want to go 5 days before hitting the refeed - your body will tell you what you need.
I will be very closely following this thing, man. Really tempted to cross over into the land of no-longer-natural
Very thought out post bro! Thanks for taking the time. Yeah I will try carb cycling, but I also wanna try out the paleo thign for at LEAST a couple weeks. Ive got a long time on this cut, I can play around with what works best. Im a LITTLE bit carb sensitive, so i dont do HUUUUGGE carb days. Also, ive been on need2slin for a bit now, and i can tell that my sensitivity to insulin is already increased. so i should be handling good carbs a little bit better now.
As far as you going into anabolics, its one thing to be able to say youre all natural, but then again its another to be able to tear the gym apart on a calorie defecit. I think anabolics ae good if you have everything down and a good foundation. you seem to have that. are you planning on going oral or injectable? Injectable sounds more taboo, and still has it's health risks, however most orals put more unwanted stress on your body. I ran super and epi and it kicked my livers ass and left it for dead. so this cycle will be all injects aside from my supports and the t3.
Also.. When did you finish your bulk? I ask that because I initially wanted to un my cut starting when i finished my pct, even if i didnt start any anabolics but i figure if i jumped into it too soon i would lose some of the gains i have had. without any anabolics most people are gonna lose some LBM unless you do a slow slow slow gradual cut but the more goodies you have keeping you from going catabolic the more you can blast the fat away imo. Take a look at different logs and hell, even start a thread to get some opinions. this is a good board, i sure have learned a lot.
thanks for stopping by. and yeah, i plan on this sucker being epic so its been logging for about a month but its gonna go OFF when i start
