mikaveli06
Member
What other prooducts are thereto help....ive heard genomyx is working on one, good results withreset so far though
PES Beta Stim!
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What other prooducts are thereto help....ive heard genomyx is working on one, good results withreset so far though
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
Products that include Mucuna Pruriens or other adaptogenic herbs, Cissus, etc. DHEA will also help.
I'm no longer interested in trying Reset-AD, since I've found my own method for fixing it (please look through my logs for supplementation, etc. if you are going to ask me what and how).
~Rosie~
schwellington
Well-known member
natty this stuff= legit period
nattydisaster
PESCIENCE.com
Awaiting the next updates!
I need to hunt down the round 1's who havent given a review or said they were going to...grrr
I need to hunt down the round 1's who havent given a review or said they were going to...grrr
StackedCop
Well-known member
Where they at!!! Grrr
mikaveli06
Member
thanxand i will check out some more of ur logs
thebigt
Legend
still haven't got mine.....grrr
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
You can find a list of all the logs I've kept down the right-side of my Fitness Blog under Invalid Link Removed (most recent first).
There shouldn't be an issue dosing with NeoVar, since it doesn't contain any stimulants and is a creatine/nutrient repartitioner.
~Rosie~
scope75
Well-known member
Ok heres the review for my second dose.
Stim: 7/10
It was a nice clean stim feeling as I just felt more alert.
Thermo: 7/10
Still liked the thermo effect of this product seemed like I was sweating more than usual when doing my 50 yard hill sprints.
Would really like to stack this product with AT2!!
Appetite Suppression: 6/10
Didn't get real hungry like I did with the first dose which was good but I also didn't have any trouble eating or wanting to eat when meal time came around.
Over all I liked the product and think it would be great stacked with AT2 and OEP for a crazy thermo stack!!
Stim: 7/10
It was a nice clean stim feeling as I just felt more alert.
Thermo: 7/10
Still liked the thermo effect of this product seemed like I was sweating more than usual when doing my 50 yard hill sprints.
Would really like to stack this product with AT2!!
Appetite Suppression: 6/10
Didn't get real hungry like I did with the first dose which was good but I also didn't have any trouble eating or wanting to eat when meal time came around.
Over all I liked the product and think it would be great stacked with AT2 and OEP for a crazy thermo stack!!
oufinny
Well-known member
Just finished an arm workout and am walking on treadmill now, amazing endurance and energy today. First arm workout in a month and tore it up. Thermo effect noticeable but not as pronounced as 60 mg of geranium and some caffeine. Strength of all things was excellent, this looks to have some serious potential, send me a bottle to log 
. Love the positive mental outlook it is giving as well!
. Love the positive mental outlook it is giving as well!
nattydisaster
PESCIENCE.com
Thanks guys!
I forgot to tell the round 2 people, 1 dose is 12 capsules, aka 1 small baggie
I forgot to tell the round 2 people, 1 dose is 12 capsules, aka 1 small baggie
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
MrKleen73
Legend
Hey I got mine in on Saturday when I got home, but have surgery Wednesday. Pre Surgery requirements from doc was that I take no supplements starting 4 days out. So I will wait until the week following my surgery when I can begin to become active like going for a walk or something and use it. Sorry for the delay guys but Dr.'s Orders...
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No worries, it is what it is. Just when you start flying high, remember to take it easy!
MrKleen73
Legend
No worries, it is what it is. Just when you start flying high, remember to take it easy!
Well if I start flying high I will already be equipped with one chicken wing. It is supposed to be about 30 degrees when I get out not too bad but no jacket to fit over the immobilizer. So I told the wife she better go to WalMart and get me a Snuggie!!! LOL
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MrKleen73
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If there is any karma in the world today, she will come home with a leopard print!
As long as it isn't pink too...
oufinny
Well-known member
I will say getting my eggs and oatmeal down this morning was more of a challenge that I anticipated; my appetite is insane when I wake up. Very smooth, natural energy and thermo feeling today when dosed upon waking. I will write a full review later but so far I really like this and would be inerested in seeing what a whole bottle would do for me with AT-2 for sh**s and giggle.
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luelinks
Well-known member
I will say getting my eggs and oatmeal down this morning was more of a challenge that I anticipated; my appetite is insane when I wake up. Very smooth, natural energy and thermo feeling today when dosed upon waking. I will write a full review later but so far I really like this and would be inerested in seeing what a whole bottle would do for me with AT-2 for sh**s and giggle.
no ****! Like I can have a good clean 6+k calorie intake without a problem. I'm still the same ol obese guy now I just workout :lol: but this things just :rocketwhore: my appetite.
luelinks
Well-known member
You'll probably be fine cause your hardcore :yup: for me it wasn't that much of a stim.
Resolve
The BPS Rep
Took two caps upon first rising this morning. Seems similar to a cup of coffee. No other effects so far.
Edit: Lol! I just went back and re-read the first post; I'm supposed to take 12 of these?! No wonder I'm not noticing much with 2 caps. :toofunny:
Ok, 12 caps tomorrow morning then. I'll get it right this time!
Edit: Lol! I just went back and re-read the first post; I'm supposed to take 12 of these?! No wonder I'm not noticing much with 2 caps. :toofunny:
Ok, 12 caps tomorrow morning then. I'll get it right this time!
DAdams91982
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Took two caps upon first rising this morning. Seems similar to a cup of coffee. No other effects so far.
Edit: Lol! I just went back and re-read the first post; I'm supposed to take 12 of these?! No wonder I'm not noticing much with 2 caps. :toofunny:
Ok, 12 caps tomorrow morning then. I'll get it right this time!
Haha.. I was about reply to this before the edit. Natty should gave two baggies of caps that would be single doses. Is that not what you received?
Resolve
The BPS Rep
Yeah, it's a bigger baggy full of smaller baggies. I don't know what I was thinking.
nattydisaster
PESCIENCE.com
2 caps lol
schizm
Well-known member
I'll be getting my review up this thurs (sorry for the delay)...was finally able to 'work' them in...have used 1 dosing so far (yesterday)....good stuff!, gonna use it prior to some cardio next to see what that's like...
Question though..not sure if I missed it....why 12 caps per dose? that'd be like a 720 pill count bottle for a 30 day supply (12 caps/2x's day) <-- madd math skills right there!
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DAdams91982
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I'll be getting my review up this thurs (sorry for the delay)...was finally able to 'work' them in...have used 1 dosing so far (yesterday)....good stuff!, gonna use it prior to some cardio next to see what that's like...
Question though..not sure if I missed it....why 12 caps per dose? that'd be like a 720 pill count bottle for a 30 day supply (12 caps/2x's day) <-- madd math skills right there!
They are beta caps, we had very low dose capped to assess the correct dosage levels. It is hard to dial back the dosage when it is already capped.
schizm
Well-known member
oufinny
Well-known member
OUFINNY's review of these pill packets!
First off thanks to NattyD and PES for letting me try these; me likes a lot! Here is the breakdown of how they were used; Sunday morning taken 1 hour before an all arms workout followed by 20 minutes of LISS cardio after and Monday morning on an empty stomach upon waking.
Energy/Stim effect 8/10 - It took about 45 minutes but it was there, oh it was there. I really noticed some major stamina during my workout and could have done more cardio had I not been needing to get home to watch football. I felt it Sunday and Monday for a good 8 hours, very impressive indeed.
Focus/smoothness/positive mental feeling 7/10 - Great during the workout in regards to focus and the energy is smooth but on day 1 I got jittery so I had to do cardio or I was going to go stir crazy. For this reason it got a 7. As for giving some positive energy, not anxious, it did that for me on Monday morning for sure, Sunday it was a bit much from hours 2-5 then it chilled out and I was able to relax and be alert.
Thermo 7/10 - Great during a workout and strangely it was pretty evident when I ate on Monday as well, started to get very warm after meals 1, 2 and 3 that day.
Overall 7.5/10 - I would like to run this with something like AT-2/Erase or the HEAT Stack and Erase. I believe this has some serious potential and if it has no side effects it would be something I would consider running with my next Epi cycle to facilitate even more leaning out effects.
First off thanks to NattyD and PES for letting me try these; me likes a lot! Here is the breakdown of how they were used; Sunday morning taken 1 hour before an all arms workout followed by 20 minutes of LISS cardio after and Monday morning on an empty stomach upon waking.
Energy/Stim effect 8/10 - It took about 45 minutes but it was there, oh it was there. I really noticed some major stamina during my workout and could have done more cardio had I not been needing to get home to watch football. I felt it Sunday and Monday for a good 8 hours, very impressive indeed.
Focus/smoothness/positive mental feeling 7/10 - Great during the workout in regards to focus and the energy is smooth but on day 1 I got jittery so I had to do cardio or I was going to go stir crazy. For this reason it got a 7. As for giving some positive energy, not anxious, it did that for me on Monday morning for sure, Sunday it was a bit much from hours 2-5 then it chilled out and I was able to relax and be alert.
Thermo 7/10 - Great during a workout and strangely it was pretty evident when I ate on Monday as well, started to get very warm after meals 1, 2 and 3 that day.
Overall 7.5/10 - I would like to run this with something like AT-2/Erase or the HEAT Stack and Erase. I believe this has some serious potential and if it has no side effects it would be something I would consider running with my next Epi cycle to facilitate even more leaning out effects.
nattydisaster
PESCIENCE.com
Thanks man!
conan1071
Member
My late review. Sorry had a death in the family
Took as directed.
Stim effect: 5/10, didn't feel much
Energy: 7/10, noticed more physical and mental get up and go
Appetite suppression: 2/10, hunger was the same and maybe felt even a bit more hungry.
Thanks for the samples. I must admit not much works on me and there may be great results for others.
Took as directed.
Stim effect: 5/10, didn't feel much
Energy: 7/10, noticed more physical and mental get up and go
Appetite suppression: 2/10, hunger was the same and maybe felt even a bit more hungry.
Thanks for the samples. I must admit not much works on me and there may be great results for others.
luelinks
Well-known member
Great review bud and sorry about the death in the family man.
luelinks
Well-known member
My 2 Day review of Beta Stim
First of all I would like to thank nattydisaster and PES for sending me a sample and especially sending it to "luelinks" than to me :toofunny:
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I like the stim but it's nothing like OEP+Alpha T2 stack or even OEP for that matter. OEP gave me a little more oomph but don't get me wrong you still feel the stim effect when you take it. For me personally I would like a little more stim but I'm a junkie what can I say
BEST **** EVER! I have never had anything that killed my appetite like this did. I woke up hungry as hell but I decided to take the Beta stim 45 minutes before I eat my brakefast. Five minutes after I took it I did not feel hungry anymore. Infact I had to force my self to eat the rest of the day.
I didn't notice any increase in sweating or anything but again I walk around in my boxers, or naked, all the time and I usually like the cold. I didn't notice any extra sweating in the gym either. Also is cold as hell outside and people go out and in all the time so the most places get a continues cold breeze which could easily prevent sweating.
I didn't feel happier or more angry than usual but I didn't get in any fights or argument, which is odd, so I couldn't see how was my temper.
it was two days worth so what do you think? Yeah can't comment on this either. But because of the amazing appetite suppression if I were to take a bottle's worth I would probably get amazing results.
This doesn't matter at all but these are the 12 pills nattydisaster was talking about
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if all these pills were put together they would make 3 animal pak pills :lol:
First of all I would like to thank nattydisaster and PES for sending me a sample and especially sending it to "luelinks" than to me :toofunny:
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Stimulant strength:
5.5/10
I like the stim but it's nothing like OEP+Alpha T2 stack or even OEP for that matter. OEP gave me a little more oomph but don't get me wrong you still feel the stim effect when you take it. For me personally I would like a little more stim but I'm a junkie what can I say
Appetite suppression: :rocketwhore:
10/10 Hell 20/10
BEST **** EVER! I have never had anything that killed my appetite like this did. I woke up hungry as hell but I decided to take the Beta stim 45 minutes before I eat my brakefast. Five minutes after I took it I did not feel hungry anymore. Infact I had to force my self to eat the rest of the day.
Thermogenesis:
didn'tnotice/10
I didn't notice any increase in sweating or anything but again I walk around in my boxers, or naked, all the time and I usually like the cold. I didn't notice any extra sweating in the gym either. Also is cold as hell outside and people go out and in all the time so the most places get a continues cold breeze which could easily prevent sweating.
Other effects:
NA/10
I didn't feel happier or more angry than usual but I didn't get in any fights or argument, which is odd, so I couldn't see how was my temper.
Fat loss:
really?
it was two days worth so what do you think? Yeah can't comment on this either. But because of the amazing appetite suppression if I were to take a bottle's worth I would probably get amazing results.
Dosing
On day 2 I decided to take 6 caps in the morning and 6 caps pre-workout which helped me to get a little more food down so if I were to take this product I would probably take half the serving cause of the strong appetite suppression.
On day 2 I decided to take 6 caps in the morning and 6 caps pre-workout which helped me to get a little more food down so if I were to take this product I would probably take half the serving cause of the strong appetite suppression.
This doesn't matter at all but these are the 12 pills nattydisaster was talking about
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if all these pills were put together they would make 3 animal pak pills :lol:
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
Quick question, Josh: This is not SHIFT, right? Or is it?
DAdams91982
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No. These are completely separate endeavors.
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
Thought so. Either way, I am EXCITED about what's coming! PES is going place!!!
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Resolve
The BPS Rep
Ok, I did things right this time - 12 caps all at once.
Here are my initial thoughts:
It's a subtle stim; doesn't beat you over the head with pep, it's more that you simply cease to have fatigue about 1/2 an hour after ingestion. Appetite suppression has been non-existant, but then, I intermittently fast, so I'm ravenous by the time I eat no matter what. Thermogenesis is quite possible, but is still too early to be sure - I found myself removing my jacket and feeling hot for no real reason, so perhaps that's evidence of this stuff.
I will continue to check in with new observations.
Here are my initial thoughts:
It's a subtle stim; doesn't beat you over the head with pep, it's more that you simply cease to have fatigue about 1/2 an hour after ingestion. Appetite suppression has been non-existant, but then, I intermittently fast, so I'm ravenous by the time I eat no matter what. Thermogenesis is quite possible, but is still too early to be sure - I found myself removing my jacket and feeling hot for no real reason, so perhaps that's evidence of this stuff.
I will continue to check in with new observations.
schizm
Well-known member
Post it like its hoooot, post it like its hoooooot...
Positive Effects: non-jittery uplifting energy, that lasts a good 4-5 hours
Negative Effects: N/A
Stimulant Strength: Not the strongest stim (which I wasn’t expecting it to be as outlined in the initial write up of it), but on the other hand, not the weakest. I would compare it to a lower ended dose of 1,3 dimeth in the way that it affects me (which as a point of reference, I do tolerate 1,3 fairly well) & it didn’t jack my heart rate up any past my usual resting HR like that which Rauwolscine/yohim does.
Appetite Suppression: Does quite well. Had to remind myself to eat...and (although limited b/c of 2 dose duration) didn’t crave any bad foods.
Thermogenesis: only noticed a slight rise in core temp, didn’t sweat/perspire or get any cold shivers lik that of Rauwol/yohim.
Summary of review: I really liked this Beta stim, I didn’t get the opportunity to try it w/cardio as I wanted, due to a couple reasons (but I already told you I would post the review up today, so I went with it
(although I do work on the 3rd story of my building and use the stairs throughout the day)...would def be interested in seeing what PES further adds in w/this new/’novel’ compound for the ‘total package’
How do you think it will serve as a fat loss ingredient? Hard to say from only having had 2 doses of it, but would say it would fair well since it DOES help in killing the appetite and gives jitterless/long lasting energy....would be interesting to see/try.
PS: Grande Thank you ND/PES for tossing my way to try it out!!
Positive Effects: non-jittery uplifting energy, that lasts a good 4-5 hours
Negative Effects: N/A
Stimulant Strength: Not the strongest stim (which I wasn’t expecting it to be as outlined in the initial write up of it), but on the other hand, not the weakest. I would compare it to a lower ended dose of 1,3 dimeth in the way that it affects me (which as a point of reference, I do tolerate 1,3 fairly well) & it didn’t jack my heart rate up any past my usual resting HR like that which Rauwolscine/yohim does.
Appetite Suppression: Does quite well. Had to remind myself to eat...and (although limited b/c of 2 dose duration) didn’t crave any bad foods.
Thermogenesis: only noticed a slight rise in core temp, didn’t sweat/perspire or get any cold shivers lik that of Rauwol/yohim.
Summary of review: I really liked this Beta stim, I didn’t get the opportunity to try it w/cardio as I wanted, due to a couple reasons (but I already told you I would post the review up today, so I went with it
(although I do work on the 3rd story of my building and use the stairs throughout the day)...would def be interested in seeing what PES further adds in w/this new/’novel’ compound for the ‘total package’How do you think it will serve as a fat loss ingredient? Hard to say from only having had 2 doses of it, but would say it would fair well since it DOES help in killing the appetite and gives jitterless/long lasting energy....would be interesting to see/try.
PS: Grande Thank you ND/PES for tossing my way to try it out!!
nattydisaster
PESCIENCE.com
Thanks for the reviews!
StackedCop
Well-known member
Now this is what I like to see! Athletes taking crazy amounts of pills containing unknown amounts of chemicals and living to tell about it!!!
Awesome review Mrbigs!
Can't wait till my 2nd batch gets here.
nattydisaster
PESCIENCE.com
Ok...so did I forget to send anyone samples who I messaged? I sort of got random requests. Let me know!