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RMS80's The One Log- w/ video....

somewhatgifted said:
RMS80 are you noticing testicular atrophy at this point? Are you going to do any more vids in this log?
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the boys seem to working just fine :)

and yes on the vids- prolly in a couple more days...
 
OzzY SluGGa said:
First of all you lookin Lean and mean man! Buffed out, great job.
I have a quick question: Because I am a P/H newb, I am wondering--Why do people talk bout all the P/H cycles they have run, or say things like "cant wait to run this again"? I dont get it, If you keep what you get why do people need to do multiple cycles?? Some guys on this baord seem to sound like they have done 3 or more diff ones. Shouldnt they be huge??
Reason i ask is I am kinda worried that after PCT is over, ever so slowly over the months I will lose it all. That must be the case or why would people always be looking at another cycle?
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b/c it is the law of diminishing returns- the gains are semi-permanent- but you will never attain what you have while being "on" while off anabolics.....the gains that you have at the peak of a cycle will slowly diminish over the course of a year, but you can slow or stop the loss of gains with proper nutrition and training- really just depends how dedicated you are and your genetics....

when I started using AAS/PHs, I was 195 lbs. @ 8-9% bf- and I have been as high as 260 @ 9% bf and 240 @ 5-6%- I am now 208 @ 4-5%- my problem these days is that I am too active- I play basketball, run, sprint, work on speed and agility- plus run a cGMP facility in a job where I am on my feet quite a bit.......I figure if I cut my activity level and just lifted weights, I would be around 225-230 @ 6% with anabolics, and 210-215 w/o- this is where I have stayed historically before I changed my training style- and you can net that out to roughly 20-30 lbs. of permanent gains over the years from using PHs/AAS- if I left everything equal and just strength trained....

a lot of my training is not really conducive to being big- I can't keep enough calories in most days, so I slowly lose my muscle mass gains, instead making gains in speed, agility, and endurance
 
EasyEJL said:
well, picture you start at 5'10" 170lbs. You do a cycle, get up to 185, end of pct down to 181. a great cycle. you then cut for summer as some fat was gained, and get down to 176. so after summer you do another bulk cycle, etc. Plus also with many people here life gets in the way. you switch jobs, have a child, break an arm, get tendonitis, etc etc all of which cause losses....
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that is a great way to reference it- goals change, but the gains net out over time....
 
Thanks Easy an DIRk! You slowly lose the whole lot over a period of 12 months...:-( Depressing thought, cause I was damn lucky yo get this through customs once, let alone twice! Cheers for explaining though guys, back to......

.....the log, Crank out another Vid man, they are way better than pics. And i cracked up at Easy's comment on the testicluar vid! :D
 
OzzY SluGGa said:
Thanks Easy an DIRk! You slowly lose the whole lot over a period of 12 months...:-( Depressing thought, cause I was damn lucky yo get this through customs once, let alone twice! Cheers for explaining though guys, back to......

.....the log, Crank out another Vid man, they are way better than pics. And i cracked up at Easy's comment on the testicluar vid! :D
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well, you don't necessarily loose it all, but its pretty common. The real world tends to intrude on us a lot :D and **** happens outside of our control
 
OzzY SluGGa said:
Thanks Easy an DIRk! You slowly lose the whole lot over a period of 12 months...:-( Depressing thought, cause I was damn lucky yo get this through customs once, let alone twice! Cheers for explaining though guys, back to......

.....the log, Crank out another Vid man, they are way better than pics. And i cracked up at Easy's comment on the testicluar vid! :D
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think of it like this man, anabolics could push u pass ur natural limit but your body will want to go back to wats natural,( slower if u train like u did while "on" and eat like it 2)
but say me i weigh 194, take the 1 then im 210 but mi natural limit is 244(estimated) then i am alot better off at mantaining mi gains and continuing to gain till i get to mi natural cap. then when i get 2 244 then i push pass with "help"

also dirk "typical users report 10-15 lb. gains in the first 2-3 weeks"
wat happins week 4 and 5? r the effects just more dramatic?
 
alwaysgaining said:
think of it like this man, anabolics could push u pass ur natural limit but your body will want to go back to wats natural,( slower if u train like u did while "on" and eat like it 2)
but say me i weigh 194, take the 1 then im 210 but mi natural limit is 244(estimated) then i am alot better off at mantaining mi gains and continuing to gain till i get to mi natural cap. then when i get 2 244 then i push pass with "help"

also dirk "typical users report 10-15 lb. gains in the first 2-3 weeks"
wat happins week 4 and 5? r the effects just more dramatic?
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Thanks buddy, Im not sure what my genetic limit is, Hope Im not at it now! (225) 10-12%

Im also interested in that question Dirk, though I thought you weren't spose to run it past 4 weeks?
 
alwaysgaining said:
think of it like this man, anabolics could push u pass ur natural limit but your body will want to go back to wats natural,( slower if u train like u did while "on" and eat like it 2)
but say me i weigh 194, take the 1 then im 210 but mi natural limit is 244(estimated) then i am alot better off at mantaining mi gains and continuing to gain till i get to mi natural cap. then when i get 2 244 then i push pass with "help"

also dirk "typical users report 10-15 lb. gains in the first 2-3 weeks"
wat happins week 4 and 5? r the effects just more dramatic?
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I believe our only percieved limits are ones of digestive capacity, muscle fascia size and dedication/consistency. Life tends to get in the way.. Which with diet, training and dedication can be overcome. Not all BB'ers are "naturally huge" but many have been at it so long that they were almost "never" skinny due to starting, and sticking, to a bbers lifestyle from a young age.
You can obviously accelerate that progress but will wind up back to your starting point without diet, training and consistency. Many members fluctuate between the same weight range year in and year out even with the use of every substance know to man.
"natural" is the average of your actions.
Mind you i have never surpassed 226 and i got there on PH's so my opinion is just that.
 
Wow, your really filling out quickly on this.

I was contemplating running a cycle of this, but not sure what to use for PCT, and still debating whether to use cycle support whilst on this too.

It looks like its only been given a good word so far, will definitly be subbing to most of the logs.

P.S New poster here, hey to all, if there are any must read stickies send em my way :)
 
alwaysgaining said:
also dirk "typical users report 10-15 lb. gains in the first 2-3 weeks"
wat happins week 4 and 5? r the effects just more dramatic?
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comically between outside backer lopping off half his thumb with a circular saw, and me aggravating my tendonitis and arthritis our initial tester group didn't all make it past 3 weeks :D a few did, and saw continued gains thru week 5.
 
Wevans2303 said:
Wow, your really filling out quickly on this.

I was contemplating running a cycle of this, but not sure what to use for PCT, and still debating whether to use cycle support whilst on this too.

It looks like its only been given a good word so far, will definitly be subbing to most of the logs.

P.S New poster here, hey to all, if there are any must read stickies send em my way :)
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PCT- (2nd gear, drive, RPM, igf-2)... or another natty test booster thrown in such as sustain alpha would work great. theres no need for cycle support imo. Get fish oil and a multi-vitamin and you should be alright, i feel no pains or aches.
 
alwaysgaining said:
think of it like this man, anabolics could push u pass ur natural limit but your body will want to go back to wats natural,( slower if u train like u did while "on" and eat like it 2)
but say me i weigh 194, take the 1 then im 210 but mi natural limit is 244(estimated) then i am alot better off at mantaining mi gains and continuing to gain till i get to mi natural cap. then when i get 2 244 then i push pass with "help"

also dirk "typical users report 10-15 lb. gains in the first 2-3 weeks"
wat happins week 4 and 5? r the effects just more dramatic?
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Interesting- it really all depends on nutrition and training specificity- I can get anyone pretty big through training, and I can get just about anybody to run fast with time- but it just depends what you spend your time on and how much discipline you have obtain and ultimately maintain these things...

After weeks 4 and 5- gains will slow at original dosage, simply b/c your cortisol levels begin to catch up with the increased T levels- this is normal for any compound of this nature- there are ways to circumvent this, but you should probably only run this for about 4-5 weeks anyways......
 
OzzY SluGGa said:
Thanks buddy, Im not sure what my genetic limit is, Hope Im not at it now! (225) 10-12%

Im also interested in that question Dirk, though I thought you weren't spose to run it past 4 weeks?
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I wouldn't run it past 35 days, but that is more to err on the side of caution (I prefer to do this)
 
crowpass said:
PCT- (2nd gear, drive, RPM, igf-2)... or another natty test booster thrown in such as sustain alpha would work great. theres no need for cycle support imo. Get fish oil and a multi-vitamin and you should be alright, i feel no pains or aches.
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i thought "the one" didnt need much of a pct because of virtually zero shutdown. Just second gear.... can someone clarify? :type:
 
The ONE threads

Wevans2303 said:
Wow, your really filling out quickly on this.

I was contemplating running a cycle of this, but not sure what to use for PCT, and still debating whether to use cycle support whilst on this too.

It looks like its only been given a good word so far, will definitly be subbing to most of the logs.

P.S New poster here, hey to all, if there are any must read stickies send em my way :)
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The ONE On-Cycle and PCT Recommendations


ON-cycle

The ONE (Straight OR Pulse)

Straight

Option A:
Dose - 3-4 caps first thing in the morning

Option B:
Dose 1 - 2-3 caps first thing in the morning
Dose 2 - 1 caps 4-6 hours later

Pulse

Option A:
For every-other-day dosing: 67.5 mg for 3 weeks; 90 mg for 2 weeks; Mon/Wed/Fri. Follow with post cycle recommendations.

Option B:
For 2 on 2 off: 67.5 mg for 3 weeks; 90 mg for 2 weeks; Mon/Tues, Fri/Sat. Follow with post cycle recommendations.

Option C:
For 2 weeks on/2 off: 67.5 mg for two weeks, take 2 weeks off, repeat. Follow with post cycle recommendations.


Other supplements on-cycle

Complete-Balance
Dose - 2 caps post-breakfast.

Bio-Mend
Dose - 2 caps post-breakfast.

Omega-Essentials
Dose - 2 caps post-breakfast.

Milk Thistle

Creatine

Protein Powder (some include BCAA's)


PCT

2nd GEAR
Dose - 1 cap last thing at night

IGF-2
Dose 1* - first thing in the morning (i.e. with Drive Dose 1)
Dose 2* - last thing at night, just before you go to bed (i.e. with 2nd GEAR dose)

Drive
Resistance Training Days
Dose 1* - first thing in the morning (i.e. with IGF-2 Dose 1)
Dose 2* - 60-80 minutes pre-resistance training (i.e. with RPM dose)
Non-Resistance Training Days
Dose 1* - first thing in the morning (i.e. with IGF-2 Dose 1)
Dose 2* - 6-8 hours after Dose 1

Complete-Balance
Dose - 2 caps post-breakfast.

Bio-Mend
Dose - 2 caps post-breakfast.

Omega-Essentials
Dose - 2 caps post-breakfast.

Creatine

Protein Powder (some include BCAA's)

* Dosage dependent on bodyweight.


Threads on The ONE/2nd GEAR

There are so many threads out there on it. Please READ them all (as you can probably find all your answers to any questions you may have in one of them):

* http://anabolicminds.com/forum/company-promotions/112713-2009s-biggest-product.html
* http://anabolicminds.com/forum/company-promotions/113105-here-ans-write.html
* http://anabolicminds.com/forum/company-promotions/114757-one-important-release.html
* http://anabolicminds.com/forum/company-promotions/115406-one-beautiful-packaging.html
* http://anabolicminds.com/forum/company-promotions/115407-wait-one-really.html


The Logs on The ONE (http://anabolicminds.com/forum/applied-nutriceuticals/119046-links-one-logs.html)

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* http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/118296-bonedaddys-one-log.html
* http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/118347-becoming-one-one.html
* http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/118356-one-only-log.html
* http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/118595-one-only-one.html
* http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/118633-rms80s-one-log.html
* http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/118658-we-all-need.html
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* http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/118819-jayhawkks-one-log.html
* http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/118741-rodjas-one-stop.html
* http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/118942-rms80s-one-log.html
* http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/118995-bonscott-one-life.html
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* http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/115625-inarius-metroba-orby.html (Metroba, from post #482)
* http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/119391-my-first-ph.html
* http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/119473-blowing-up-17a.html

bb.com
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PHF
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Feedback on The ONE

Read what they're saying about the ONE: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/applied-nutriceuticals/119562-feedback-one.html


buster0371 said:
i thought "the one" didnt need much of a pct because of virtually zero shutdown. Just second gear.... can someone clarify? :type:
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That's right. See the recommended PCT above.
 
rms80 said:
After weeks 4 and 5- gains will slow at original dosage, simply b/c your cortisol levels begin to catch up with the increased T levels- this is normal for any compound of this nature- there are ways to circumvent this, but you should probably only run this for about 4-5 weeks anyways......
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i im puttin up mi log at the end of this week and i will be mega dosing super cissus rx. 6 to 8 grams a day just for the cotisol, i will be doin 3 aday for the whole bottle and when i feel the gains drop off then start pct.
 
alwaysgaining said:
i im puttin up mi log at the end of this week and i will be mega dosing super cissus rx. 6 to 8 grams a day just for the cotisol, yup i will just be doin 3 aday for the whole bottle and when i feel the gains drop off then i would start pct.
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thats a prety damn expensive anti-cort approach man. primaforce is much cheaper and a higher extract. or something like lean extreme.
 
rolandajoint said:
thats a prety damn expensive anti-cort approach man. primaforce is much cheaper and a higher extract. or something like lean extreme.
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WhatsaRoid? said:
Try endoamp from PP
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Irish Cannon said:
Yep. I had no luck with SuperCissus. If it's cortisol lowering you're looking for, VitC/LX stack for sure.
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nah guys i bought the bulk its way cheap.
i used to run NP 50% with great results but its too much money,
also i look at endoamp and will probly end up buyin it with the whole TRS from PP as mi PCT to show evey 1 that u dont need a SERM
 
I am on Day 26- have gained 14-16 total, even though my activity level the last 10 days has been super high between workouts (b-ball, plylos, weights) and 10-12 hour days in production- got the last video going up in a day or two...
 
ive been following all the other logs as well.... and they al ar getting strong strength gains, do you think that the muscle codination aspect of the one plays a large part in the strength gains?
wat percentage of muscle cordination do u thinkg comes into play when lifting heavy?
 
rms80 said:
I am on Day 26- have gained 14-16 total, even though my activity level the last 10 days has been super high between workouts (b-ball, plylos, weights) and 10-12 hour days in production- got the last video going up in a day or two...
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Looking forward to it boss! ;)

Cheers!:cheers:
 
alwaysgaining said:
ive been following all the other logs as well.... and they al ar getting strong strength gains, do you think that the muscle codination aspect of the one plays a large part in the strength gains?
wat percentage of muscle cordination do u thinkg comes into play when lifting heavy?
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DHT helps to stimulate the CNS- so you have that aspect- increased coordination= increased muscle fibers firing in sequence with one another= strength

plus, The One allows for a good amount of intracellular osmotic pressure (stimulus for anabolism and strength) through GLUT 4 translocation, therefore also having increased glycogen and retention- this is also a good stimulus for strength gains
 
SamBoz19 said:
Looking forward to it boss! ;)

Cheers!:cheers:
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got the video done- it will go up today or tomorrow...pretty dramatic when you compare it to the first one......
 
With an increase of 14 - 16....I think dramatic is an understatement!! Looking forward to the video.
 
Sweet! Lookn forward to the vid!
 
metroba said:
Sweet! Lookn forward to the vid!
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Day 26 is up- check out front page or below- I may need to re-shoot it in the same light as day 1....

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Sound doesnt work..but first thing I noticed was chest is fuller, shoulders and arms look bigger and more striated :thumbsup:
 
metroba said:
Sound doesnt work..but first thing I noticed was chest is fuller, shoulders and arms look bigger and more striated :thumbsup:
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not really sure what happened to the sound- like I said- may need to reshoot....
 
BeBig said:
He's afraid to eat canned chicken he thinks the chicken will fly out and get him..lol hahahahaahhaaaa:laugh: :18: LG33>>>>>:owned2: :crackhead:
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I think that is what happened to Craig..the damn half dead chicken flew out of the can and bit his nipple...then he complained of gyno like symptoms.:rant:
 
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