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Craigmatthew said:
The ONE [BONUS OBSERVATION #6]

Pumps, man it's day 12 now, and today's pumps were insane. Like literally I'd warm up on the lightest weight possible, and blood would flow to the area, and by the end of the warmup set the pump was huge, crazy, never had anything like this. The pumps are everywhere as well, and you can actually induce it easily, I sit at my desk in my office and contract my calves and bang! Pumped calves! Looks like the next 2 weeks will be fun!!
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Sounds like your having quite the exhilarating experience with the ONE...keep it up bud. BTW...have noticed any particular parts of your body that have a more pronounced added mass look to them?

Cheers!:cheers:
 
SamBoz19 said:
Sounds like your having quite the exhilarating experience with the ONE...keep it up bud. BTW...have noticed any particular parts of your body that have a more pronounced added mass look to them?

Cheers!:cheers:
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Parts of the body with the most increases would be chest and triceps. Also some bicep and shoulder size increase as well.
 
Craigmatthew said:
Parts of the body with the most increases would be chest and triceps. Also some bicep and shoulder size increase as well.
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I must admit I have wondered if "The One" is able to help genetically weak body parts bloom (my chest) I was thinking of doing 2 whole chest workouts per week While on this Kiwi. Increased recovery abilities I believe should cover it. Could be my only chance to get some inner pec! Well, chest in general. I do believe I have the worst chest genetics in the history of mankind. 2 workouts on it a bad/good idea? You are familiar with recovery on this....
 
OzzY SluGGa said:
I must admit I have wondered if "The One" is able to help genetically weak body parts bloom (my chest) I was thinking of doing 2 whole chest workouts per week While on this Kiwi. Increased recovery abilities I believe should cover it. Could be my only chance to get some inner pec! Well, chest in general. I do believe I have the worst chest genetics in the history of mankind. 2 workouts on it a bad/good idea? You are familiar with recovery on this....
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I have done the same thing. During my hdrol cycle I indentified areas of weakness (legs) and trained them 2xper week. Worked well.
 
Craigmatthew said:
I have done the same thing. During my hdrol cycle I indentified areas of weakness (legs) and trained them 2xper week. Worked well.
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aaahhhh, but did you keep it.....Man If I even look at a squat rack my legs grow huge. i dont even train them cause they get to big and rub and cause chafe, plus They make me walk funny. Big legs sux, gimme a wicked chest anyday. Looks way better. im gonna hit it twice then, cheers mate.:bandit:
 
Craigmatthew said:
The ONE [BONUS OBSERVATION #6]

Pumps, man it's day 12 now, and today's pumps were insane. Like literally I'd warm up on the lightest weight possible, and blood would flow to the area, and by the end of the warmup set the pump was huge, crazy, never had anything like this. The pumps are everywhere as well, and you can actually induce it easily, I sit at my desk in my office and contract my calves and bang! Pumped calves! Looks like the next 2 weeks will be fun!!
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Exciting stuff thats awesome man.... :18:
 
OzzY SluGGa said:
I must admit I have wondered if "The One" is able to help genetically weak body parts bloom (my chest) I was thinking of doing 2 whole chest workouts per week While on this Kiwi. Increased recovery abilities I believe should cover it. Could be my only chance to get some inner pec! Well, chest in general. I do believe I have the worst chest genetics in the history of mankind. 2 workouts on it a bad/good idea? You are familiar with recovery on this....
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Doing a couple of sessions on 'weaker' areas a week is ok, even NOT on The ONE, Zac. Something that drastically helped me bring up my weak areas was doing Body-Part splist and completing 4 x 6 squats before doing that particular body-part (in my case, shoulders one day, and arms the next). So long as your eating is right and you don't do the same body-part TWO days running (i.e. give it a day at least between them, and do another body-part the next day), then you should be fine.
 
Guejsn said:
Doing a couple of sessions on 'weaker' areas a week is ok, even NOT on The ONE, Zac. Something that drastically helped me bring up my weak areas was doing Body-Part splist and completing 4 x 6 squats before doing that particular body-part (in my case, shoulders one day, and arms the next). So long as your eating is right and you don't do the same body-part TWO days running (i.e. give it a day at least between them, and do another body-part the next day), then you should be fine.
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Thanks, I'll give it a crack. Dont think it will matter. Your DNA is ya DNA. I have huge legs, and no chest. Think I Just have to deal with it! Very frustrating to have the least asthetically pleasing body parts (quads/calves) as the ones that explode so easily.

PS these Pics are taking a while, I reckon the ol' kiwi is flexing away in a room somewhere Looking for the perfect shot:laugh:
 
The ONE [Day THIRTEEN]

Blood Pressure:
Heart Rate:
Weight:91kgs, still the same as yesterday. Slightly higher perhaps, but not worth mentioning.

The ONE [BACK and BICEPS ]

Single Hand Cable Lat Pulldown:42x10/48x8/54x8/60x8/66x6
Seated Row:48x8/54x8/60x8/66x8
Cable Bar Pulldown:50x8/56x8/56x8
Zottman Curls:10x8/10x8/10x8
Concentration Curls:10x7/10x7/10x7
Seated Hammer Curls:10x8/10x8

BW Crunches:12/10/10

Diet:Good lean meat, and good quality cho's on a whole.
Training:Really good, focused!
Body composition and Look:Still really pumped and full and lean at the same time.
Muscle Hardness:Up a bit now, can induce a pump easily!
Vascularity:Normal
Strength:Up
Speed:N/A
Co-ordination:N/A
Quality of Training:Really good. Focused!
Mood/Aggression:Good mood.
Libido: Up
Joints:Little bit of pain.
Overall Sense of Feeling:Really positive
Notes:same as usual, love this stuff so far.

The ONE [DIET]

08:00
1 cups oats with milk (200calories)
Protein Shake (300 calories) 8g cho's/40g protein/9g fat

Cycle Assist (1serve)
1g vitamin c
joint support
b5
Orange Triad
EFA (1serve)

11:00
Three capsules "THE ONE"
4 scoops LG BC+Eaa (minimal calories) 5g bcaa/5g eaa/2.5g glutamine
Chicken Wrap (300calories approx) 30g cho's/20g protein/?g fat (minimal)
220g Cream Rice (238calories) 42.5g cho's/8.2g protein/3.9g fat
Banana (86calories) 21g cho's/1g protein/0.27g fat

13:00
220g Cream Rice (238calories) 42.5g cho's/8.2g protein/3.9g fat
Canned Chicken (150calories) 309g cho's/14.9g protein/7.5g fat

15:00
4 scoops LG BC+Eaa (minimal calories) 5g bcaa/5g eaa/2.5g glutamine
Canned Chicken (150calories) 309g cho's/14.9g protein/7.5g fat
220g Cream Rice (238calories) 42.5g cho's/8.2g protein/3.9g fat
Protein Bar (250calories)


16:30
4 scoops LG BC+Eaa (minimal calories) 5g bcaa/5g eaa/2.5g glutamine

17:45
Cycle Assist (1serve)
1g vitamin c
b5
joint support
Mass Gainer shake PWO (450calories) 35g cho's/40g protein/?g fat
4 scoops LG BC+Eaa (minimal calories) 5g bcaa/5g eaa/2.5g glutamine
Banana (86calories) 21g cho's/1g protein/0.27g fat

19:00
Chicken Wrap (400calories)
220g Cream Rice (238calories) 42.5g cho's/8.2g protein/3.9g fat

22:00
250gram cottage cheese (250calories approx) 25g protein


Total Calories = 3574
Notes:That's better calorie wise!
 
OzzY SluGGa said:
Thanks, I'll give it a crack. Dont think it will matter. Your DNA is ya DNA. I have huge legs, and no chest. Think I Just have to deal with it! Very frustrating to have the least asthetically pleasing body parts (quads/calves) as the ones that explode so easily.

PS these Pics are taking a while, I reckon the ol' kiwi is flexing away in a room somewhere Looking for the perfect shot:laugh:
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Do a hard heavy day, and a lighter higher rep day on that area. Also another idea to toss in is to make some changes to specific exercises you do for other body parts to add some focus to chest. So instead of straight arm pulldowns or some other upper back exercise insert db pullovers.

Another nifty but difficult idea is to switch all your chest exercises to using dbs for a while AND do them one handed at a time. presses are a lot rougher, flys are miserable that way. But it engages a bunch more stabilizers, so a 4 week grouping like that although it won't gain significant strength in that time can definitely help set you up for future growth.
 
EasyEJL said:
Do a hard heavy day, and a lighter higher rep day on that area. Also another idea to toss in is to make some changes to specific exercises you do for other body parts to add some focus to chest. So instead of straight arm pulldowns or some other upper back exercise insert db pullovers.

Another nifty but difficult idea is to switch all your chest exercises to using dbs for a while AND do them one handed at a time. presses are a lot rougher, flys are miserable that way. But it engages a bunch more stabilizers, so a 4 week grouping like that although it won't gain significant strength in that time can definitely help set you up for future growth.
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Thats some very interesting suggestions! thanks easy :D
Especially like the light/High rep day. Two low rep/heavy days might be too much.
 
OzzY SluGGa said:
Thanks, I'll give it a crack. Dont think it will matter. Your DNA is ya DNA. I have huge legs, and no chest. Think I Just have to deal with it! Very frustrating to have the least asthetically pleasing body parts (quads/calves) as the ones that explode so easily.

PS these Pics are taking a while, I reckon the ol' kiwi is flexing away in a room somewhere Looking for the perfect shot:laugh:
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It depends. Work hard enough at it and you CAN make changes. I'm proof of that. My lower body gains muscle just LOOKING at weights (not literally, but you know what I mean; just doing cardio and eating adds muscle mass), LOL; but I managed to bring my upper body up well last year (although I had a 'chest' already :D).


Craigmatthew said:
haha sure, and my chicken legs! haha
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Well by the end of this your legs SHOULD be bigger than mine :p
 
Craig what are the stats for this week? weight, size, ect ect.. i need some of that canned chicken man! hahaha its in your daily diet, must be that dam good!
 
Liftergym33 said:
Craig what are the stats for this week? weight, size, ect ect.. i need some of that canned chicken man! hahaha its in your daily diet, must be that dam good!
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Canned chicken is so good!
Weight is 91kgs, which is a nice little lean mass increase. That's a 3.5kg Increase.
 
Strange thing today, right nipple is quite sensitive and feels like a slightly painful small lump in that right nipple...will have to keep an eye on this. Never had something like this before? Any ideas?
 
Craigmatthew said:
Strange thing today, right nipple is quite sensitive and feels like a slightly painful small lump in that right nipple...will have to keep an eye on this. Never had something like this before? Any ideas?
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You're not familiar with gyno? You have any anti-e's?
 
Nipple sensitivity and painful lump are the #1 and #2 signs of gyno, while on steroids, I would bet with 100% certainty that this is gyno and not a skin irritation. I've gone through it with both nipples.

Now I am not sure of the mechanisms through which TO functions, as far as I know it is like DHT and thus had me thinking of winstrol and masteron and such which tend to work against gyno but like i said IDK. My guess is you'll want to start dosing an anti-estrogen like arimidex. Or an OTC ai. I'll watch to see more responses.
 
UnrealMachine said:
Nipple sensitivity and painful lump are the #1 and #2 signs of gyno, while on steroids, I would bet with 100% certainty that this is gyno and not a skin irritation. I've gone through it with both nipples.

Now I am not sure of the mechanisms through which TO functions, as far as I know it is like DHT and thus had me thinking of winstrol and masteron and such which tend to work against gyno but like i said IDK. My guess is you'll want to start dosing an anti-estrogen like arimidex. Or an OTC ai. I'll watch to see more responses.
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Ah interesting, it certianly has increased in sensitivity, as of today, and feels even slighty throbbing and painful.

I'd like also to see what other think/say, woudl you advise dosing the AI with the steroid or cease the compound and go straight to PCT?
 
Don't go straight into PCT yet, gyno is slow to develop, you have some time to try to work on it with an AI. I don't know what to tell you with dosing though, I know about the right amount of letro for me to take to stave off gyno but this is different. I guess the question is what AI's do you have available to you?

*even with that answered, i am not sure of the doses... I am sure we will reach a consensus as we get more views though. I've got to pay attention because I'm susceptible to gyno, not overly so but it has been a recurring problem. But for me letro has always worked in zapping it.
 
UnrealMachine said:
Don't go straight into PCT yet, gyno is slow to develop, you have some time to try to work on it with an AI. I don't know what to tell you with dosing though, I know about the right amount of letro for me to take to stave off gyno but this is different. I guess the question is what AI's do you have available to you?
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Have half bottle of Post Cycle Support, 2nd gear, 6oxo, trione, SERM, inhibit-e (15caps)...think that might be it?
 
Craigmatthew said:
Ah interesting, it certianly has increased in sensitivity, as of today, and feels even slighty throbbing and painful.

I'd like also to see what other think/say, woudl you advise dosing the AI with the steroid or cease the compound and go straight to PCT?
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Dam man....If it was me I would Cease this stuff bro...
 
you say you have SERM on hand which SERM? or are you reffering to an OTC product? IMHO a SERM would be best to use while on cycle, otherwise I have used ATD for gyno while on cycle and it works well and quickly! I wouldn say stop yet, you can get it under control fairly quickly.
 
cloc said:
you say you have SERM on hand which SERM? or are you reffering to an OTC product? IMHO a SERM would be best to use while on cycle, otherwise I have used ATD for gyno while on cycle and it works well and quickly! I wouldn say stop yet, you can get it under control fairly quickly.
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SERM I have is nolva, also have an ATD, which do you think run alongside this?
 
man I dont get it. I thought this stuff didnt "aromatize" to estrogen or whatever. Fcuk Craigo, hope you can get it under control bro, your log is going so well.
 
OzzY SluGGa said:
man I dont get it. I thought this stuff didnt "aromatize" to estrogen or whatever. Fcuk Craigo, hope you can get it under control bro, your log is going so well.
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Yeah I dont get it, when I get home from work I will research how to attack this well.... Any help is appreciated though guys.
 
Craigmatthew said:
Yeah I dont get it, when I get home from work I will research how to attack this well.... Any help is appreciated though guys.
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hmm... see if you are lactating? Do you have any experience with prolactin problems? Gyno doesn't occur instantaneously so it is nothing to FREAK about, but it is definitely a good idea to keep control and monitor potential threats... props on that. I haven't used T.O. so I can't give any personal experience advice from it yet. Isn't clomid the better option SERM wise versus Nolva when it comes to gyno? I don't have experience with them so I can't comment on that.

Dang Craig I really wish I could help you out more with this. ATD or formestane is what I would use for OTC stuff and only use a SERM if absolute.

Of course, get others opinions as well...
 
OzzY SluGGa said:
man I dont get it. I thought this stuff didnt "aromatize" to estrogen or whatever. Fcuk Craigo, hope you can get it under control bro, your log is going so well.
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Craigmatthew said:
Yeah I dont get it, when I get home from work I will research how to attack this well.... Any help is appreciated though guys.
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Ya man this sucks hope you get it taken care of the log is tight. Have any of the AN reps chimed into you bout this??:type:
 
BeBig said:
Ya man this sucks hope you get it taken care of the log is tight. Have any of the AN reps chimed into you bout this??:type:
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First I have heard of any gyno experiences with T.O. I gave some suggestions to my abilities and experiences the post before yours.
 
EasyEJL said:
I guess at least calfwise, that was one bit of good genetics i got as far as bodybuilding goes.
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I can thank my parents for good genetics. Interesting mix they are too.


BeBig said:
Funny Guejsn hahahhahah.....^^^^^
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I was being SERIOUS :D


Craigmatthew said:
Strange thing today, right nipple is quite sensitive and feels like a slightly painful small lump in that right nipple...will have to keep an eye on this. Never had something like this before? Any ideas?
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Doesn't sound too good. Any enlargement of the area or leaking? Did you get your hormonal bloods back yet? They may show something if it is imbalance of hormones.
 
Craigmatthew said:
Strange thing today, right nipple is quite sensitive and feels like a slightly painful small lump in that right nipple...will have to keep an eye on this. Never had something like this before? Any ideas?
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I'd hate to rehash it but are you sure it's not the canned chicken sides?
 
TexasLifter89 said:
First I have heard of any gyno experiences with T.O. I gave some suggestions to my abilities and experiences the post before yours.
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My bad Tex totally was not payin attention an I did read your info...I've had a crazy night sorry bro I know your in here to help out. Now i need to slap myself on the forehead. :banghead: :spank: :pat: :slap:
 
haha gee thanks guys for the help...not...

Thanks texas, there is no leakage or anything... I cant get clomid.. I have nolva though... Will research now and see what I can do...

No bloods back yet..
 
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Funny Guejsn hahahhahah.....^^^^^

I was being SERIOUS


Yes^^^ it was funny though cause CM's legs are kinda small, bigger than mine though, and mine probably would define the word chicken legs better.... I would rather have a good upper body and I hate working legs....LOL:dl: :ugh1:
 
The ONE [Day FOURTEEN]

Blood Pressure:
Heart Rate:
Weight:

The ONE [LEGS and CALVES ]

BB Squats:60x12/100x10/120x8/125x8/125x8
Single Leg Extension:66x12/72x10/78x8
Seated Cavle Raise:50x12/60x8/60x8
Standing Calve Raise:210x12/224x10/240x8/240x8

Diet:Good lean meat, and good quality cho's on a whole.
Training:Really good, focused!
Body composition and Look:Still really pumped and full and lean at the same time.
Muscle Hardness:Up a bit now, can induce a pump easily!
Vascularity:Normal
Strength:Up
Speed:N/A
Co-ordination:N/A
Quality of Training:Really good. Focused!
Mood/Aggression:Good mood.
Libido: Up
Joints:Little bit of pain.
Overall Sense of Feeling:Really positive
Notes:Seem to have gyno forming in right nipple, 2 small lumps, quite painful and nipples are really sensitive.

The ONE [DIET]

08:00
1 cups oats with milk (200calories)
Protein Shake (300 calories) 8g cho's/40g protein/9g fat

Cycle Assist (1serve)
1g vitamin c
joint support
b5
Orange Triad
EFA (1serve)

11:00
Three capsules "THE ONE"
4 scoops LG BC+Eaa (minimal calories) 5g bcaa/5g eaa/2.5g glutamine
Chicken Wrap (300calories approx) 30g cho's/20g protein/?g fat (minimal)
220g Cream Rice (238calories) 42.5g cho's/8.2g protein/3.9g fat
Banana (86calories) 21g cho's/1g protein/0.27g fat

13:00
220g Cream Rice (238calories) 42.5g cho's/8.2g protein/3.9g fat
Canned Chicken (150calories) 309g cho's/14.9g protein/7.5g fat

15:00
4 scoops LG BC+Eaa (minimal calories) 5g bcaa/5g eaa/2.5g glutamine
Canned Chicken (150calories) 309g cho's/14.9g protein/7.5g fat
220g Cream Rice (238calories) 42.5g cho's/8.2g protein/3.9g fat
Protein Bar (250calories)


16:30
4 scoops LG BC+Eaa (minimal calories) 5g bcaa/5g eaa/2.5g glutamine

17:45
Cycle Assist (1serve)
1g vitamin c
b5
joint support
Mass Gainer shake PWO (450calories) 35g cho's/40g protein/?g fat
4 scoops LG BC+Eaa (minimal calories) 5g bcaa/5g eaa/2.5g glutamine
Banana (86calories) 21g cho's/1g protein/0.27g fat

19:00
Steak and Bread (400calories)

22:00
250gram cottage cheese (250calories approx) 25g protein


Total Calories = 3316
Notes:again better calorie wise
 
TexasLifter89 said:
hmm... see if you are lactating? Do you have any experience with prolactin problems? Gyno doesn't occur instantaneously so it is nothing to FREAK about, but it is definitely a good idea to keep control and monitor potential threats... props on that. I haven't used T.O. so I can't give any personal experience advice from it yet. Isn't clomid the better option SERM wise versus Nolva when it comes to gyno? I don't have experience with them so I can't comment on that.

Dang Craig I really wish I could help you out more with this. ATD or formestane is what I would use for OTC stuff and only use a SERM if absolute.

Of course, get others opinions as well...
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Clomid for prolactin induced gyno, nolva for estro induced gyno, this does sound like estro induced gyno. Prolactin should cause leaky nips, estro lumps/puffy nips. Would be nice to be 100% sure on this. You can start the ATD at once. Nolva would be best if it's indeed estro induced. You should start asap though.

Funny thing though, The One is actually eradicating my gyno..
 
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