You’re cheeky mate lolYou Americans are strange
Peanut butter jelly?
Just no
I’ll stick to tea and crumpets
You’re cheeky mate lolYou Americans are strange
Peanut butter jelly?
Just no
I’ll stick to tea and crumpets
Peanut butter, with jelly, as in jam, spread, preserves... made of grape or strawberry. Yes. Definitely yes. It’s a sandwich, but this is a fit crunch.
You can keep your peeing strumpets.
Totally agree! I can eat it by the spoon full! In fact even ate an entire jar for a contest! Loved it as well. HahaHow can anyone not LOVE Peanut Butter ??????????
Truth.How can anyone not LOVE Peanut Butter ??????????
Peanut butter and fluff is where it’s at.You Americans are strange
Peanut butter jelly?
Just no
I’ll stick to tea and crumpets
This. Vaso6 is at least justifiable, as who knows what’s the truth of Thermolife’s claims, but norvaline? There’s not even any promising human studies on it (in normal subjects). It’s not like citrilline, nitrates, or even (supposedly) Vaso6 that have promising human studies. I just don’t see the risk/reward ratio for it TBH.Surprised at the Vaso6 and Norvaline after all the information about both products recently in the industry pyrobatt did you ever consider swapping those out? Especially after the brain cells study on Norvaline and all the drama on Vaso6 with Thermolife?
Yes it’s a trademarked ingredient and I love my prekaged! I always add a little hydromax and it’s a great hydration product to take first thing in the morning or preworkoutI’m under this impression, but may be wrong
Exactly when I worked at vitamin shoppe I would recommend a quality pre and people would always walk out with crap like NO explode or one more repI worked as a manager at one of the big name supplement shops for 7 years and I can say this is all true. People would ask my opinion , I would be 100% honest and show the best pre based on what their experiences/wants were, and they would just end up ignoring and going with something that had lots of endorsements/popularity.
Ever since we went to Europe last summer I miss baked beans & tomatoes when I have a big breakfast
It’s just one combo that has never taken off over here. Mind you not many really like peanut butter here either at least people I’ve met or work with
I like this also!!! (haven't had it in years)Peanut butter and fluff is where it’s at.
Marmite and and jam? HahaYou Americans are strange
Peanut butter jelly?
Just no
I’ll stick to tea and crumpets
That’s the company. Once upon a time it was great working for them.Exactly when I worked at vitamin shoppe I would recommend a quality pre and people would always walk out with crap like NO explode or one more rep
Well, I certainly don’t love it, but I do eat a lot of it. It’s calorically dense and high protein high fat.How can anyone not LOVE Peanut Butter ??????????
I really love a nice thick-ass, rare-ass steak. Sirloin if I’m eating clean. Ribeye on a dirty bulk.Some times I wish I didn't love food as much as I do !!
I enjoy it way to much !!I really love a nice thick-ass, rare-ass steak. Sirloin if I’m eating clean. Ribeye on a dirty bulk.
Otherwise it’s pretty hard to make my mouth water. I just eat because I have to. I don’t enjoy it most of the time.
Assuming they had this in the queue before all of that went down about VASO6...Surprised at the Vaso6 and Norvaline after all the information about both products recently in the industry pyrobatt did you ever consider swapping those out? Especially after the brain cells study on Norvaline and all the drama on Vaso6 with Thermolife?
Not to nitpick, but 3 g vs 3.2 g BA? Just seems lazy, lol. But interested to hear feedback on the release.New permaswole label! Behold.View attachment 180771
I honestly didn't know what I was looking at when I first saw the label design release. I'm assuming that on an actual bottle vs the digital picture it'll be more interpretable. I get that they're trying to break into a new market (gamers) and Mobi's all about that segment, but I question that direction for a powdered supp. Canned energy drink, sure. But I see this going the way of Elixir in the end. But either way, I give them props for trying to set a trend and will likely pick up a tub to try to show some support.They are re-designing their labels again? This is like the 4th time isn't it?
What's everyone's take on this formula...
their patent(s) don't cover the individual use of KNO3, but they cover the use of nitrates in combination with any amino acids. So if you put KNO3 in a product along with any individual (or multiple) amino acids, you're infringing upon their patents.Is Potassium Nitrate covered under TL’s patents? IIRC it is, but not 100% certain
I know I'm a tad late to this, but I'm just not a fan of the current direction OL has been headingWhen OL dropped Re1gn it was new there was hype and new ingredients etc
But I’m just not excited for levels
Just looks like a run of the mill formula that will get lost with all the other pre’s dropping or dropped recently
I know I'm a tad late to this, but I'm just not a fan of the current direction OL has been heading
I know I'm a tad late to this, but I'm just not a fan of the current direction OL has been heading
It's not that the products aren't good, as they are. It just seems you've guys have cut out what your edge was, all to increase your bottom line.May I ask why? What about it don’t you like?
No I understand what you mean.It's not that the products aren't good, as they are. It just seems you've guys have cut out what your edge was, all to increase your bottom line.
Does that make sense. I can further elaborate if need be.
hard to argue with thatNo I understand what you mean.
It is a business though and the goal of any business is to make money. Competition in the supplement industry is fierce and it’s hard to make money with a niche product that only a small group of people appreciate and buy.
hard to argue with thatNo I understand what you mean.
It is a business though and the goal of any business is to make money. Competition in the supplement industry is fierce and it’s hard to make money with a niche product that only a small group of people appreciate and buy.
They are already doing that with the two different pre-workouts and fat burners.So why not make a ton of the mainstream stock, and then a smaller stock for the niche class?
You either make nothing or lose money per unit on the niche products. You need to cater to the masses to make money.So why not make a ton of the mainstream stock, and then a smaller stock for the niche class?
You either make nothing or lose money per unit on the niche products. You need to cater to the masses to make money.
We are trying to strike a balance by maintaining a great formula without watering it down.
It’s the evolution of the business - it had to change to grow.It's not that the products aren't good, as they are. It just seems you've guys have cut out what your edge was, all to increase your bottom line.
Does that make sense. I can further elaborate if need be.
evomuse is another great example... stellar products, innovative, but 100% niche and sold to a painfully small market... thus why they're constantly OOS, without acpital to re-invest, etc. Its a barely-maintainable business model at best.It’s the evolution of the business - it had to change to grow.
They broke out selling designer anabolics - besides a few bunk batches they made good on, they were very legit and innovative. Excellent niche “supplements”. But if you want to make real money your only chance is to stop selling grey area and make a product line that can swim in the current mainstream, which is cutthroat and highly competitive.
Guys like Mike Arnold will tell you how low the margins are still operating in the niche market. That’s why it’s niche lol
A mistake often is made is thinking you, the member of AM, makes up the traffic and footprint of this site. For every one of you that posts, there are 1000 that are reading and using search. They find the info they need here then purchase as various outlets.Just put a ton of SKU's on your line, and watch the smaller forum crowd ones collect dust besides a select handful that want them. In reality the majority on here want a highly powered and clinically dosed formula, while the mainstream market doesn't favor it to a large extent. Most of us on here don't see that, but when you run a business you have to think what is most beneficial for the long-term. Selling yourself to a small group on an online message board that makes up 2-5% of your total companies sales is not going to lead to a successful business or a ROI (Return of Investment) making formulas that cater to their needs.
The amount of people that talk about products here and buy elsewhere is enormous, especially Amazon these days. It's had a very negative effect on the industry as a whole.I discover products nobody is talking about, at all, and within two weeks of me mentioning it here it’s sold out. Every single time.
I actually had to stop talking about some of the things I wanted because I’ve shot myself in the foot too many times and lost out on it.
Guess that is why I don't have a business.Just put a ton of SKU's on your line, and watch the smaller forum crowd ones collect dust besides a select handful that want them. In reality the majority on here want a highly powered and clinically dosed formula, while the mainstream market doesn't favor it to a large extent. Most of us on here don't see that, but when you run a business you have to think what is most beneficial for the long-term. Selling yourself to a small group on an online message board that makes up 2-5% of your total companies sales is not going to lead to a successful business or a ROI (Return of Investment) making formulas that cater to their needs.
So true.I discover products nobody is talking about, at all, and within two weeks of me mentioning it here it’s sold out. Every single time.
I actually had to stop talking about some of the things I wanted because I’ve shot myself in the foot too many times and lost out on it.
Yo lemme get the dL on these spiked preWOs#1 thing it happens with are designer anabolics and spiked preworkouts.
Go figure.
The lifestyle range (newest labels everyone is seeing) is formulated to ensure compliance, with each ingredient being GRAS.It's not that the products aren't good, as they are. It just seems you've guys have cut out what your edge was, all to increase your bottom line.
Does that make sense. I can further elaborate if need be.
Here’s a hint. Think of an old, banned, well known, and totally spiked preworkout. Then type it into google with the word “clone” after it and see what happens with a bit of digging.Yo lemme get the dL on these spiked preWOs
Schizophrenic Psycho lol... nothing to see here, just hear colours.Or how about Hydrazine? That stuff is the definition of spiked.
Schizophrenic Psycho lol... nothing to see here, just hear colours.
comfortably numb....Schizophrenic Psycho lol... nothing to see here, just hear colours.
Really? I need to take 2 caps of that to really feel anything. Don’t think it was “spiked”. At least not from the batch I purchased last year.Or how about Hydrazine? That stuff is the definition of spiked.