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The Future of Primordial Performance

oufinny said:
That and you are giving your customer a safer and effective way to use natural hormones to grow. This is the next evolution of legal hormonal supplementation, if all this works as it says on paper, PP will have done what was once thought impossible. I am excited to be here, this is a paradigm shift in the industry for the better.
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Yes, exactly.

I remember when the idea for this project first started and the direction we were headed with the available science and technology. It's all come together very well and we're proud of what we're about to bring to the table in this industry; Making safe and very effective products.

All the hard work and long hours really paid off in the end. Not much longer now. ;)
 
oufinny said:
That and you are giving your customer a safer and effective way to use natural hormones to grow. This is the next evolution of legal hormonal supplementation, if all this works as it says on paper, PP will have done what was once thought impossible. I am excited to be here, this is a paradigm shift in the industry for the better.
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Exactly
 
Me too Trauma!!!! I cant wait, weve all been waiting for these for awhile now. Now all thats left is Eric's SHM show, the write ups, and finally the release. I have never been so pumped for a product, glad I am a PP customer!
 
The write-ups won't officially be released until we draw a bit closer to the pre-sale date. Trust me when I say you're going to like these. They should offer a plethora of written scientific information and a very nice visual component as well.

It should be easy to follow and very imformative for anyone that reads them.
 
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I'm impressed...but I thought we decided the Andro-mass was coming in Jamie Eason form... :(

Guess I'll still pre-order lol!
 
can yhou discuss the actives in these?
 
Trauma1 said:
The write-ups won't officially be released until we draw a bit closer to the pre-sale date. Trust me when I say you're going to like these. They should offer a plethora of written scientific information and a very nice visual component as well.

It should be easy to follow and very imformative for anyone that reads them.
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Just a few more days.....:stick:
 
schwellington said:
can yhou discuss the actives in these?
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When the actual ingredient profiles and technical product write-ups are released we can and will.

~Rosie~
 
RipdnTxs said:
Could someone post what they are equilivant to again, I looked back but must have missed the post ....
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This is the Anabolic Effects of each product.

450mg/week for "anabolic effects" for AndroMass.

91mg/week of "overall" testosterone effects for AndroLean.

191mg/week "overall" DHT effects from the AndroHard.

And for those of you trying to figure out your stack, this might help -

AndroMass
Androgenic potency – Low/Moderate
Anabolic potency –High

AndroHard
Androgenic – High
Anabolic potency – Moderate

AndroLean
Androgenic – Low
Anabolic – Low
Thermogenic – High

~Rosie~
 
Thanks Rosie, now to figure which one to add to my TRT protocol, I may have to stay away from Androhard because of thinning hair issues......
 
Rosie Chee Scott said:
This is the Anabolic Effects of each product.

450mg/week for "anabolic effects" for AndroMass.

91mg/week of "overall" testosterone effects for AndroLean.

191mg/week "overall" DHT effects from the AndroHard.

And for those of you trying to figure out your stack, this might help -

AndroMass
Androgenic potency – Low/Moderate
Anabolic potency –High

AndroHard
Androgenic – High
Anabolic potency – Moderate

AndroLean
Androgenic – Low
Anabolic – Low
Thermogenic – High

~Rosie~
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So you're saying if I were to take AndroMass it would yield the same results as being on 450mg Test E/week?
 
RipdnTxs said:
Thanks Rosie, now to figure which one to add to my TRT protocol, I may have to stay away from Androhard because of thinning hair issues......
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No worries :)

Wait until you see what the ingredient profiles are and read the technical write-ups before you make a decision - the Primordial team can then also make their recommendation/s for you.


FL3X MAGNUM said:
So you're saying if I were to take AndroMass it would yield the same results as being on 450mg Test E/week?
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That is what it is saying, yes.

The original projections:
AndroMass will have an anabolic bioequivalent to 480mg/week of injectable testosterone enanthate. We just finished the calculation.

AndroHard will have an overall bioequivalent to 561mg/week masteron or 494mg/week primobolan.

AndroLean will have na overall bioequivalence to 81.6mg/week TE . . . Along with its thermogenic activity.
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~Rosie~
 
Do the boxes say liquivade htc? Hmm what is the htc? Bottles say liquivade 2.0 it looks like. I hope we can get some stickies on the writeups because it is going to be hard to follow the discussion if it turns into another huge thread like this one.
 
Rosie Chee Scott said:
This is the Anabolic Effects of each product.

450mg/week for "anabolic effects" for AndroMass.

91mg/week of "overall" testosterone effects for AndroLean.

191mg/week "overall" DHT effects from the AndroHard.

And for those of you trying to figure out your stack, this might help -

AndroMass
Androgenic potency – Low/Moderate
Anabolic potency –High

AndroHard
Androgenic – High
Anabolic potency – Moderate

AndroLean
Androgenic – Low
Anabolic – Low
Thermogenic – High

~Rosie~
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I am interested in an AndroMass/AndroLean stack. purportedly anabolic, moderately androgenic, and thermogenic. = best bang for your buck :)

Not too interested in androhard though
 
About the fat loss from Androlean, is it similar to the seeming fat burning ability of tren? Like lets say you add Androlean on a bulk, is it going to reduce fat gain/maybe even fat loss as if adding tren? Or is it just going to speed up fat loss if you're cutting?

I still think Androhard being compared to 500mg Primo/Mast a week sounds the best. If it can give equal vascularity and hardness I will be one happy man :)
 
i will be grabbing androhard to add to my trt. i see several bottles in my cabinet in my near future. dont really have an interest in the other 2
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
Is Rosie Chee Scott about to make the move to hormonals??
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I don't see it that way - it's not like I'm going to be using Tren or something.


T50 said:
About the fat loss from Androlean, is it similar to the seeming fat burning ability of tren? Like lets say you add Androlean on a bulk, is it going to reduce fat gain/maybe even fat loss as if adding tren? Or is it just going to speed up fat loss if you're cutting?

I still think Androhard being compared to 500mg Primo/Mast a week sounds the best. If it can give equal vascularity and hardness I will be one happy man :)
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Tren is a bulker as opposed to a fat burner.

I would imagine, given the information we have, that AndroLean will help with maintaining leanness when bulking, and definitely going to help re cutting. You will see more when the technical product write-ups some out.

~Rosie~
 
T50 said:
About the fat loss from Androlean, is it similar to the seeming fat burning ability of tren? Like lets say you add Androlean on a bulk, is it going to reduce fat gain/maybe even fat loss as if adding tren? Or is it just going to speed up fat loss if you're cutting?

I still think Androhard being compared to 500mg Primo/Mast a week sounds the best. If it can give equal vascularity and hardness I will be one happy man :)
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In a sense, it will allow you to cut while retaining lbm ideally.
 
Don't get me wrong i'm sure it's going to be awesome, but 450 mgs of test that sounds too good to be true,but if i'm wrong i'll be the first to admit it.
 
ryansm said:
Yes:D
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im sure it will be a great product as most pp products are. but im guessing and i could be wrong that the bio-equiv does not necessarily mean the same gains as compared to said compound. needless to say ill be trying ah at some point in the future.
 
The original comparison was Andromass rivaling Superdrol in it's muscle building capacity. Superdrol kicks Testosterones ass any day.

So, did something change? Is Andromass still comparable to Superdrol?
 
chocolatemilk said:
The original comparison was Andromass rivaling Superdrol in it's muscle building capacity. Superdrol kicks Testosterones ass any day.

So, did something change? Is Andromass still comparable to Superdrol?
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in 3-4 weeks yes sir no doubt. how about a solid 12-16 weeker then see what you keep afterwards?
 
chocolatemilk said:
Superdrol kicks Testosterones ass any day.
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It depends what you're looking for. If it's an all out bulk nothing beats test it may be somewhat due to water retention but you don't hear of people gaining 25-30 pounds off of superdrol, unless it's their first cycle. Not to mention you feel great on test, libido,lethargy and otherwise.
 
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