I am excited to give it a go as well. It is one of the few legal alternatives left here in the states.
When things leave, new things come. It is the circle of life.
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So where the hell can I get some? I'm about to start a cycle and I miss sdrol so much
For any libido issues what would be recommended? 1T always did that to me. Worked amazingly but had both the lethargy and libido sides galore.
Before I consider jumping up to 3x/day I need to get that figured out.
I understand.
However, if one were to still experience a drop in libido or difficulty "finishing" is there a good on-cycle support / aphrodisiac out there that works? I'm not talking about cialis or anything blood flow related as that isn't really the problem.
Theres 4 andro and Androsterone in it. I doubt you need another test-base and if so, theres something copletely wrong with the product and Hi-Tech is hiding it behind the prop blend.
sounds like the lethargy hit you surprisingly hard. Btw we have seen users do 10+ lbs on our andro products so msten and the methyls are not the only things producing those kind of gains.If it's anything like OL's sup3r line up, you will need something more than 4-andro. I ran sup3r 4 at 440mg and Sup3r 1 at 330, and it still didn't touch the lethargy or destruction in libido. Sup3r 1 is very strong. Much stronger conversion than the 4-dhea. I stopped after 4 weeks, cuz it was miserable. Gains=yes. Worth it=no. For that amount of lethargy and no libido, and a general sense of feeling like ****, I could of run alpha 1, or msten and put on a solid 15lbs with the right diet.
If it's anything like OL's sup3r line up, you will need something more than 4-andro. I ran sup3r 4 at 440mg and Sup3r 1 at 330, and it still didn't touch the lethargy or destruction in libido. Sup3r 1 is very strong. Much stronger conversion than the 4-dhea. I stopped after 4 weeks, cuz it was miserable. Gains=yes. Worth it=no. For that amount of lethargy and no libido, and a general sense of feeling like ****, I could of run alpha 1, or msten and put on a solid 15lbs with the right diet.
Better absorption so it is equivalent to a larger multiplier dose and also probably the fact that different folks react differently I'd imagine.I guess it depends on how much 1-andro is in it? I ran 330mg super mandro/andro the giant and lethargy/libido wasn't too bad. Although I'm sure you actually get more absorption with SEDDS.
I guess it depends on how much 1-andro is in it? I ran 330mg super mandro/andro the giant and lethargy/libido wasn't too bad. Although I'm sure you actually get more absorption with SEDDS.
1-andro was 330mg, a day. There 110mg's a piece. 3 a day. Sup3r 1, is 1-andro only. OL andros are not blends.
Correct.
We make a few blends, but the majority of our prohormones as not blends. Such as:
1-Testosterone
1-AD
DECABOLIN
EQUIBOLIN
ANDRODIOL
1-ANDRO(LG)
4-ANDRO(LG)
EPI-ANDRO 50(LG)
And I'm sure more that I'm not remembering off the top of my head
For any libido issues what would be recommended? 1T always did that to me. Worked amazingly but had both the lethargy and libido sides galore.
Before I consider jumping up to 3x/day I need to get that figured out.
Does stano work better than 4 Andro to stave off lethargy? Just curious
Recommend any stacks to go a long with this?
I mean, ideally we all want to cut/bulk. Definitely a summer time stack i'm looking for if that makes sense. Drop some fat but keep/gain lean muscle mass and strength if poss. Obviously I understand that comes with proper nutrition.
I'd like to hear more about the 6-oxo delta 4 ingredient. I read the study posted earlier in the thread, but it was all just jibberish to me. What exactly is it, why is it included in the formula? Does it convert to something else or help the other hormones convert?
You should try to get access to a Pharma grade serm. If you can't our testobolan and reversitol stack has blood work supporting the ability to recover via blood testsI have a question, I just ran this cycle for 9 days at 2 caps a day but only one on the ninth day, and I had to stop do to an acl injury. Do you think I can get by with an OTC PCT since I was only on it for nine days? I didn't really make any gains in those nine days, started at 190.6 but ended at around 192, so I know the compound hasn't really started to take effect yet, would like feedback, thank you.
I'm finishing my 2nd bottle now @ 3/day.
Very satisfied with the results. I need to do a solid PCT and get my natural production back up.
Diesel test?
I have a question, I just ran this cycle for 9 days at 2 caps a day but only one on the ninth day, and I had to stop do to an acl injury. Do you think I can get by with an OTC PCT since I was only on it for nine days? I didn't really make any gains in those nine days, started at 190.6 but ended at around 192, so I know the compound hasn't really started to take effect yet, would like feedback, thank you.
You should try to get access to a Pharma grade serm. If you can't our testobolan and reversitol stack has blood work supporting the ability to recover via blood tests
can you provide us with some info as to your cycle? starting/finishing weight? strength changes? etc...sure a lot of people would be very interested to hear!
For PCT, you can go the SERM route, I like Clomid the best, or you can run my favorite OTC option Reversitol v2 + Testabolan
Thanks for the recommendation. Might give those a try.
Regarding the cycle, I was 2wks into a 12wk cut for summer when I started and i'm now about halfway through week 9 of 12, so I got about 7wks out of two bottles.
My weight was steadily dropping by about 1-2lb/wk on the cut and that ceased when I started my cycle and i've stayed right around 220lbs over the last 7wks but have lost 6% BF (by the caliper) and am MUCH stronger and MUCH bigger. I did not take any measurements but I know how strong I am and I know how big I am and there were dramatic changes in both that were not inline with cardio twice a day caloric deficit low fat cutting routines.
I am very pleased and can tell the product delivers and definitely converts to the target hormones using the new delivery method better then others that do not use it because i've used other 1AD / 4AD products (Andro the giant, Mandro gains of steel) and was very disappointed in the results. My libido issues went away about 2-3wks into the 7wks and my test levels were so elevated this last 2wks I even got mild acne in weird places.
I know none of this is scientific and it's a much more "seat of the pants" type review, but I know my body very well and can tell when i'm not near homeostasis and what's changed.
I plan to do a solid PCT while finishing up my cut, then I want to do a different cut that i'll run for the summer months to get as shredded as I can. During that time I may try another one of your products more suited to hardness (like equipoise / winstrol are) since i'll be fairly lean.
VaughnTrue what in the hell is up with the name???? That's stupid a sshyt!!!
No one else gave you crap yet so I figured it was my duty bud![]()
4 a day with the 1test and androdiol is super high dosage. I would definitely be watching bpI just got mine today! I'm doing 8 weeks. 2 tabs a day for the first week, 3 a day for weeks 2-6 and 4 a day for weeks 7-8. I'm also going to take an additional 330mg of 1-test, and 150mg and androdiol.
Wish me luck. I will log results also because I think this will be pretty intense.. ha
4 a day with the 1test and androdiol is super high dosage. I would definitely be watching bp