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so i decided to try Osta Sarm

UPDATES MAN??? I snagged me up a bottle of this. Its cheap and at 12.5mg dosage daily the bottle can last 120 days, so 2 8 week cycles cant beat that IMO. Would you reccomend that front load like you did for the first few days?
 
reecew said:
UPDATES MAN??? I snagged me up a bottle of this. Its cheap and at 12.5mg dosage daily the bottle can last 120 days, so 2 8 week cycles cant beat that IMO. Would you reccomend that front load like you did for the first few days?
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not much to update. better pumps and muscle hardness than natural, and been having good workouts with a noticeable endurance increase. It's like being on cycle that's for sure, albeit a mild one.

If i run this again, I'm going to either frontload it even harder, or I will preload it. For example, if you are going to use this in PCT, you should start taking it during the last week of your cycle (bridging to it). Or if you just started taking it and want to notice it sooner, frontload at 50mg for a couple days then 25 then 12.5.

IMO, just going by feel, I would say at day 4 it was 50%, day 10 I was feeling 75%, and day 14 I was at 100%. Very arbitrary and probably very wrong but maybe that gives you some idea. Dosing 50mg on day 1 probably helped a little.
24 hour halflife is a long time for something you take orally. You know what has a longer halflife, clomid, that's why you see people taking 150-300mg of clomid on day 1 of PCT.
 
How much did you weigh in your avy unreal?

And I agree with snake, Osta an peps I'm hoping will let me keep everything during pct an start to lean up
 
6'1 218 in my avatar. bodyfat: your guess is as good as mine. I've wanted to say 9 but some people told me 8 and others told me 10.
Right now I am 15 pounds lighter and bodyfat is much lower... Some pictures are in order.
 
Yeah you look good in that shot, must be gettin shredded now. I hit 235 today big am sick of bein in double digits.
 
I decided to buy some, but it is on presale and won't ship until after 12/27. It should still get here by the time I start my PCT. The thought that I might be able to continue gaining strength and lean mass during PCT was too hard to pass up.
 
OnTheRoadTo said:
The price is <$1 per day from a couple places - No support supps needed, its a hell of a lot better than furazadrol or 11-oxo or any number of bull**** stick and berry products. Obviously Epi and Superdrol (and i guess bola now too) are going to produce more dramatic muscular gains, but this isn't that far off the clip for halodrol.

Not to jump down your throat, but if there aren't any sides - what would you rather spend your supp dollar on?
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I found a cheaper one :)

I got you. Just don't wanna pay 100+ dollars for something that will give less gains than Epi when I already find Epi to be side less and mild for shut down.

I would pay 100+ dollars for this in PCT though don't get me wrong. I love the idea of this to sustain gains and would definitely pay for that.
 
chocolatemilk said:
I found a cheaper one :)

I got you. Just don't wanna pay 100+ dollars for something that will give less gains than Epi when I already find Epi to be side less and mild for shut down.

I would pay 100+ dollars for this in PCT though don't get me wrong. I love the idea of this to sustain gains and would definitely pay for that.
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Word, epi is cheap. I just copped 20 btl for 3 bills. This stuff sounds pretty good though not gonna lie.
 
20 bottles? damn I thought I liked epi too much. I have 6 bottles in my stash.

my mk 2866 came today. It almost makes me want to stop my cycle to start my pct :crazy:
 
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Uhmm my personal comments... I like ostarine, I have better hardness than I usually would during such a strong calorie deficiency. But I attribute my results mainly to the fact that I've been busting my ass in the gym, going 2x a day, and sticking to a very strict diet.

I think i've lost a lot of thickness, compare to my avatar, but that's got a real steroid pump going in that shot, now I am just basically "natural" on my light dose of ostarine. Other supps used: creatine (no off it), NTBM whey, NTBM muscle replenisher, Need2Slin, some caffiene/1,3-dimeth for stims, 12.5mg of osta, I think that's it.

203 pounds today

Time to clean bulk some muscle back, lol... I hate weighing this little, feels like the wind is going to carry me away. 215 is a good weight.
 
You look amazingly ripped, bro. Congrats on your success.

I definitely agree that you busting your ass in the gym and knowing your diet is easily the biggest part of your success, but I'm sure that ostarine helps - I'm looking forward to mine.
 
Unreal your a fat ass........Sheesh brosif
 
Very very impressive Unreal. Makes me feel like a bloated fat sack of lard.
 
Great forearm development man. You see a lot of people with great builds and have the weakest looking forearms. It makes me wonder sometimes.Lol. We have pretty close to the same body shape, so this really motivates me. Only 24 here, you got me on density and your leaner than I am at 220. But 220 and solid and 200 and ripped is where I bounce between . Great work though dude, how old are you ?
 
onemind1body said:
Great forearm development man. You see a lot of people with great builds and have the weakest looking forearms. It makes me wonder sometimes.Lol. We have pretty close to the same body shape, so this really motivates me. Only 24 here, you got me on density and your leaner than I am at 220. But 220 and solid and 200 and ripped is where I bounce between . Great work though dude, how old are you ?
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I'm 23. Thanks on the forearms dude, kinda funny cuz i got a comment on them just today.

And ya 220 solid is where I spend the most of my time. I've been 230-235 solid but only while on cycle. Really hard for me to maintain that stuff natty.
 
UnrealMachine said:
Yes trying to get ripped. 209 pounds and bodyfat is... 8% and dropping i'd guess.

My buddy started this the same day as me and he's cutting with me (he's my gym partner). He is similar to me but a bit lighter, 6'1 193 right now maybe 11% but pretty strong, he keeps up with me on many lifts and even pushes me on a few. I want to get him to start posting but I'll try to include his updates as well.
He is a hyper-responder to every supplement he's tried and also halodrol (his only cycle was 1 bottle of halodrol which worked well for him) so he started noticing the SARM before me even though I frontloaded it harder and he is noticing the pumps, hardness, sweating and thirst.

The sweating was no joke, I was dropping a sweat droplet every couple seconds at the end of my cardio.
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it's nice to have training partners that can push you... I think that's what motivates one another. I have tried the training partner thing, but it wasn't as intense because it was plain old boring.. I said to my friend one time, let's do deadlift.. he was like oh no I never do legs.. WTF!!!
so now I just train alone.
 
Outstanding said:
You can't give us a preview like that and leave out the back/lats and legs!! You're looking grainy. Have you ever competed, and how much of the year would you approximate you hold that type of conditioning?

Keep it up.
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eh i did post a leg shot somewhere in here back a couple pages.
ok here it is
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finally on day 15 bumping the dose a tiny bit

day 15: 15mg and nothing new to report really. I am starting to cut pretty hard at this point. Worked legs today, good endurance. Took this pic when I was done:

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My back shot came out bad, its too close and at an angle, I can't stand seeing bad shots of myself.

never competed.

only weigh 203 so I could hold this indefinitely so long as I keep up my cardio and dieting. But I don't want to do that because i like FOOD so I want to start gaining some weight back asap lol...

boricuarage said:
it's nice to have training partners that can push you... I think that's what motivates one another. I have tried the training partner thing, but it wasn't as intense because it was plain old boring.. I said to my friend one time, let's do deadlift.. he was like oh no I never do legs.. WTF!!!
so now I just train alone.
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ya that guy sounds like a puss, which is what I tell my buddies when I hear anything like that, just to give them some motivation. We all motivate each other though, my buddy keeps me working to make sure I stay ahead.

boricuarage said:
only 23? damn guy I thought you were in your 30's...
you sound/type proper.. keep it up youngy ;-)
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yup i haz bin edumacated, a produkt of teh publik skul sistem :)
 
UnrealMachine said:
eh i did post a leg shot somewhere in here back a couple pages.
ok here it is


My back shot came out bad, its too close and at an angle, I can't stand seeing bad shots of myself.

never competed.

only weigh 203 so I could hold this indefinitely so long as I keep up my cardio and dieting. But I don't want to do that because i like FOOD so I want to start gaining some weight back asap lol...



ya that guy sounds like a puss, which is what I tell my buddies when I hear anything like that, just to give them some motivation. We all motivate each other though, my buddy keeps me working to make sure I stay ahead.

yup, he is genetically gifted.. 5,11 205, very muscular.. until u see his legs... they look like pencils.. lol.. ok enough knocking on my boy...
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Phenom Unreal! I cant wrap my head around you only weighin 205 in those picks! Time to get back to the dinner table though huh, enjoy yourself!:burger:
 
Wow unreal seriously nice work!! You loom much denser than your avi. Were your delt meets your chest you have a big crease now, also the upper chest. Great job and thanks for making me feel fat so so well..... Un unreal
 
Great work man, so you say your back to bulking...are you going to contiue the osatrine in that bulk??
 
UnrealMachine said:
eh i did post a leg shot somewhere in here back a couple pages.
ok here it is


My back shot came out bad, its too close and at an angle, I can't stand seeing bad shots of myself.

never competed.
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You got that FIRE! You're so good it's unreal... you're like... a machine!

OH HEY, I just had a good idea for a new forum name you can u... OH, never mind :(
 
Outstanding said:
You got that FIRE! You're so good it's unreal... you're like... a machine!

OH HEY, I just had a good idea for a new forum name you can u... OH, never mind :(
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lol. Ya that was my inspiration for my name on the forum, I decided that I would just be killing it day in and day out and not stop. I didn't believe in rest days or weeks off, still don't, hence the machine part.

reecew said:
Great work man, so you say your back to bulking...are you going to contiue the osatrine in that bulk??
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Ya gonna clean bulk back up to 215 or so... I'm staying on ostarine for at least 2-3 more weeks. Then I am planning on doing a MDXT pulse 3x a week along with DC training. I think that'll be really great for lean bulking.

thanks all dudes, repped everyone on this page I think
 
UnrealMachine said:
lol. Ya that was my inspiration for my name on the forum, I decided that I would just be killing it day in and day out and not stop. I didn't believe in rest days or weeks off, still don't, hence the machine part.
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You're a hyperalloy endoskeleton with living breathing tissue. Model 101 I presume.

Haha - I like your philosophy UM, it both resonates with me, and spells out to the letter, the construct and basis of my own pillars of physical/athletic actualization.

True progress and physique proficiency/prowess is only a result of unmatched unyielding efforts in the ceaseless toil to endeavor daily the manifestation of your envisioned goals, millimeter by millimeter with every bite and rep!

Keep it up, all the best! :)
 
Haha outstanding, I have always liked your way with words, you must read a lot.
 
UnrealMachine said:
Haha outstanding, I have always liked your way with words, you must read a lot.
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Ahhhwwww man! :)

This is a huge vote of confidence and humbling compliment coming from you my friend! I am surprised you mentioned anything, although I do put a lot of thought and care into my posts, and it tickles me pink to get some thumbs-up from your shredded self.

As far as reading, hardly ever - if ever. That might sound surprising, but I truly gain all of my literary inspiration and vernacular usage from my noggin. I do subscribe to and make every effort to stay up to date on Flex and Muscular Development, but those aren't examples of text-based excellence of course ;)

I am, by nature and trade, an author through and through. Physique enhancement and all that it implies, is the only endeavor in my life on par with my passion for the written word and expressing myself and educating others through enlightening discourse and dissemination.

Thank you, very sincerely, for your kind words.
 
swallow it with some water... no one would want to hold that stuff under their tongue

@ Outstanding, an author sounds about right, i bet you could write some excellent articles. Usually though one has to read to have any kind of a vocabulary. Most weightlifters for instance, don't read anything -> no vocabulary lol... I try to read a bit, but most of my reading is always online lol.
 
UnrealMachine said:
@Outstanding, an author sounds about right, i bet you could write some excellent articles. Usually though one has to read to have any kind of a vocabulary. Most weightlifters for instance, don't read anything -> no vocabulary lol... I try to read a bit, but most of my reading is always online lol.
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HEY - I happen to BE a bodyb.... ohhhhh, I see, you're complimenting me. Well, I'm still offended and demand satisfaction sir! ;)

I'm fully aware a run a risk of coming off, incorrect as the perception may be, as pompous if I say this... that being said, I rarely read for enjoyment because as I read virtually anything, my mind wanders with the litany of shortcomings I recognize in the author's feeble attempts at penning anything worthy of my left-to-right eye movements. I begin to drift away to daydream-ville with methods of enhancing their narrative or augmenting their substance-less attempts with alliteration and more vivid analogies and imagination.

Also... I do develop articles along with being charged with R&D responsibilities for several companies. Much of what I do for gainful employment outside of the forum-sphere revolves around industry work, which is why I choose not to reveal my actual identity online; as well as ensuring I can whole heartily devote my online presence toward the betterment of NTBM's consumer loyalty. :)
 
are there any other SARM in research/production?
 
schwellington said:
are there any other SARM in research/production?
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This is being looked into by the place where I bought my SARM. It loks fairly promising even though I don't believe it is a SARM.

L-163191(MK-0667)

L-163,191 (MK-0667) is a potent, orally active growth hormone (GH) secretagogue . MK-0667 releases GH from rat pituitary cells in culture with EC50 = 1.3±0.09 nM and is mechanistically indistinguishable from the GH-releasing peptide GHRP-6 and the prototypical nonpeptide GH secretagogue L-692,429 but clearly distinguishable from the natural GH secretagogue, GH-releasing hormone. [1]
L-163,191 elevates GH in dogs after oral doses as low as 0.125 mg/kg and was shown to be specific in its release of GH without significant effect on plasma levels of aldosterone, luteinizing hormone, thyroxine, and prolactin after oral administration of 1 mg/kg. Only modest increases in cortisol were observed. Based on these properties, L-163,191 has been selected for clinical studies. [2,3]
 
schwellington said:
are there any other SARM in research/production?
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Clinical development (GTx, Inc.)

OstarineTM is an aryl propionamide SARM and the most advanced clinical candidate. OstarineTM demonstrated exciting data in an initial proof-of-concept Phase IIa clinical trial. GTx, Inc. reported in December 2006 the results of this clinical trial, which was a double blind, randomized, placebo-controlled trial in sixty elderly men and sixty postmenopausal women [Dalton, 2007a; Dalton, 2007b]. Without a prescribed diet or exercise regimen, all subjects treated with OstarineTM had a dose-dependent increase in total LBM, with the 3 mg/day cohort achieving an increase of 1.3 kg compared to baseline and 1.4 kg compared to placebo after 3 months of treatment. Treatment with OstarineTM also resulted in a dose-dependent improvement in functional performance measured by a stair climb test, with the 3 mg/day cohort achieving clinically significant improvement in speed and power. Interestingly, subjects treated with 3 mg/d of OstarineTM had on average an 11% decline in fasting blood glucose, a 17% reduction in insulin levels, and a 27% reduction in insulin resistance (homeostasis model assessment) as compared to baseline, suggesting that sarms might have therapeutic potential in diabetics or people at risk for diabetes. Phase I clinical studies with OstarineTM showed that it was rapidly absorbed after oral administration with a half-life of about 1 day (unpublished data)



GTx Announces Ostarine Increased Lean Body Mass and Leg Press Strength in Head to Head Clinical Study

SAN DIEGO, Jun 21, 2010 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- GTx, Inc. /quotes/comstock/15*!gtxi/quotes/nls/gtxi (GTXI 3.00, -0.01, -0.33%) announced that Ostarine(TM) (GTx-024, formerly MK-2866) increased lean body mass and leg press strength in a head to head study evaluating Ostarine and another selective androgen receptor modulator (SARM), MK-3984, in postmenopausal women. The data were presented yesterday at the 2010 Annual Meeting of the Endocrine Society. GTx is developing its lead SARM, Ostarine, for the treatment of cancer induced muscle wasting (cancer cachexia).

"This is the third Ostarine clinical study that measured lean body mass and physical performance endpoints, and Ostarine has consistently demonstrated the ability to increase muscle mass and strength," said Mitchell S. Steiner, MD, CEO of GTx. "We also continue to be pleased with Ostarine's safety profile."

The 12 week, randomized clinical trial evaluated Ostarine 3 mg and two doses of MK-3984 compared to placebo in 88 postmenopausal women. Total lean body mass was measured by DEXA at baseline and 12 weeks, and physical performance was evaluated at the same interval by bilateral leg press machine.

After 12 weeks of treatment, Ostarine 3 mg and MK-3984 significantly increased total lean body mass. Compared to placebo, mean differences from baseline for lean body mass were observed with increases of 1.54 kg (p value<0.001) for both Ostarine 3 mg and 50 mg of MK-3984 and an increase of 1.74 kg (p value<0.001) for 125 mg of MK-3984. Increases in thigh muscle volume as measured by MRI for Ostarine and MK-3984 were noted as early as week 4 with the effect persisting through the end of the study. Ostarine 3 mg and MK-3984 treatment resulted in an increase in leg muscle strength. Mean leg muscle strength at 12 weeks for Ostarine 3 mg treated subjects increased by 22 pounds from baseline.

Ostarine 3 mg and MK-3984 were tissue selective. Treatment did not cause virilization in these women, as there was no change in sebaceous gland volume, rate of sebum excretion, or hair follicle gene expression. Moreover, Ostarine 3 mg and MK-3984 did not stimulate endometrial proliferation as measured by endometrial thickness. As for safety, seven subjects treated with MK-3984 were discontinued from the study due to elevations in Liver enzymes greater than three times the upper limit of normal, whereas no clinically significant Liver enzyme elevations occurred in subjects treated with Ostarine.

In summary, 12 week treatment with Ostarine 3 mg and MK-3984 had comparable efficacy on total lean body mass, muscle strength and tissue selectivity in postmenopausal women. Ostarine 3 mg was well tolerated with no clinically significant Liver enzyme elevations.:yumyum:
 
Holy crap UM, you got PEEEELED in your new avatar!!!!!!
 
2k1s said:
Given hindsight, would you front load ostarine again?
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I would either frontload it slightly harder than I did, or more likely I would preload it in anticipation of something like PCT so I would start dosing it during the last week of a cycle if I wanted it to be "kicked in" when my PCT started.

And I plan on running Osta for every future PCT I do lol! Why wouldn't you?! :)

I am back to trying to clean bulk, took me no time at all to throw on lots of water weight as I went back on creatine and got some carbs in me. I have switched to DC training. I lost a lot of strength during my cut.

I enjoyed the osta and it must have helped to some degree. But my strength really sucks right now lol. I think it'll take me a couple weeks of DC and getting some real calories back in me before it becomes decent again.
 
Hey, great log man. I have been thinking about running this for a while and you sold me.

I wanted to run osta either with Igf1 or in between 2 cycles of it. Any suggestions?
 
hugeswole said:
Hey, great log man. I have been thinking about running this for a while and you sold me.

I wanted to run osta either with Igf1 or in between 2 cycles of it. Any suggestions?
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sounds like a good stack, go for it
 
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