GMG760
Well-known member
Their tri-acetylated form supposedly fixed the bioavailability; not that I have any proof of that.
I've ran CEL's topical and a bottle of formex (different occasions). Formex wasn't nearly as effective as the topical IMO.
Silver's Natadrol/PSARM Relay RAGE RACE (Sponsored Log)
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I've ran CEL's topical and a bottle of formex (different occasions). Formex wasn't nearly as effective as the topical IMO.
AE14
Board Sponsor
the diuretic effect was great, alittle surprising, but certainly helped with the dryness appearance
Silver3CSRT8
Well-known member
Day 6:
Dosed 6 caps of Natadrol and 4 caps of PSARM today.
Thoughts:
I knew I was looking forward to the workout for a reason. Strength is rising, endurance is rising and libidio is rising. I felt very strong yesterday and I am starting to get that all day, full body pump going on. I love looking down and noticing the waterhose size vein sticking out on my forearm. That is a lovely sight for a former fat boy!
Workout:
I am still having to make a few tweaks to the workout and unfortunately yesterday's workout was cut a little short due to work committments. Thing should calm down quite a bit after this week though!
Hammer Shoulder Press
45 x 10, 80 x 8 (100 x 8, 80 x 7, 55 x 8)
DB Pullovers (I have dropped a little weight here to work on form. Was bending elbows too much)
55 x 10, 60 x 8, (60 x 8, 55 x 8, 45 x 8 )
Dumbbell Incline
50 x 10, 65 x 8 (75 x 8, 65 x 8, 55 x 8)
Reverse Grip Bench (Really impressed myself here since the most I lifted previously was 135 x 8)
135 x 10, 155 x 8 (175 x 7, 155 x 6, 135 x 6)
As stated, I cut it short due to work, but still had lots left in the tank!
Thoughts:
I am ON. I truly had doubts when accepting this product. I know LG makes great products and have tried loads of them, but a plant based androgen giving similar gains to a prohormone I thought was too good to be true. I will do a weigh in tomorrow, but strength wise it is showing already. Pump wise this product is solid as well. I also feel leaner daily (hope it is not just water) and I seem to have a tad more energy and focus the last few days. This morning I had to get up at 5 and had the alarm set. Little silver decided to stand at full attention at 4AM and it took a good 15 minutes to get back to bed!
Dosed 6 caps of Natadrol and 4 caps of PSARM today.
Thoughts:
I knew I was looking forward to the workout for a reason. Strength is rising, endurance is rising and libidio is rising. I felt very strong yesterday and I am starting to get that all day, full body pump going on. I love looking down and noticing the waterhose size vein sticking out on my forearm. That is a lovely sight for a former fat boy!
Workout:
I am still having to make a few tweaks to the workout and unfortunately yesterday's workout was cut a little short due to work committments. Thing should calm down quite a bit after this week though!
Hammer Shoulder Press
45 x 10, 80 x 8 (100 x 8, 80 x 7, 55 x 8)
DB Pullovers (I have dropped a little weight here to work on form. Was bending elbows too much)
55 x 10, 60 x 8, (60 x 8, 55 x 8, 45 x 8 )
Dumbbell Incline
50 x 10, 65 x 8 (75 x 8, 65 x 8, 55 x 8)
Reverse Grip Bench (Really impressed myself here since the most I lifted previously was 135 x 8)
135 x 10, 155 x 8 (175 x 7, 155 x 6, 135 x 6)
As stated, I cut it short due to work, but still had lots left in the tank!
Thoughts:
I am ON. I truly had doubts when accepting this product. I know LG makes great products and have tried loads of them, but a plant based androgen giving similar gains to a prohormone I thought was too good to be true. I will do a weigh in tomorrow, but strength wise it is showing already. Pump wise this product is solid as well. I also feel leaner daily (hope it is not just water) and I seem to have a tad more energy and focus the last few days. This morning I had to get up at 5 and had the alarm set. Little silver decided to stand at full attention at 4AM and it took a good 15 minutes to get back to bed!
Liftergym33
Well-known member
Very impressive!..I knew this stack was going to kick ass!
Silver3CSRT8
Well-known member
To be honest I have only been doing reverse grips for a month so some of the increase was getting more comfortable with form. However, this week I had the confidence, drive and strength to pull it off. I am going to keep adding weight cause I feel some changes in my chest since adding these.
thundergod
Well-known member
Right on!! I bring 'em down even lower......like to the upper abdomen.
Well........between the titties and the gut......you get the idea. :thinkerg:
Resolve
The BPS Rep
The sternum maybe?
FlexW99
Well-known member
We just got another local one, haven't checked it out but a friend of mine says my wife's twin is there. I told my wife and she said you won't be stepping into that place anytime soon!
BTW, watch me lose my manboobs!: Invalid Link Removed
Silver3CSRT8
Well-known member
Day 7 and 8:
Off Days
Day 9:
Dosed 6 caps of Natadrol and 4 caps of PSARM today.
Thoughts:
This product is giving me the gym aggression similar to MMV2. It is like a switch is flipped when I hit the gym and I have a awesome aggression.
Workout:
Workout went good. I felt like I could have had a few more reps if I would have had my workout partner to spot me. Regardless I put up good numbers and I was satisfied with the session.
Chinups
10, 8, 6, 5
Decline Bench
135 x 10, 225 x 8 (245 x 6, 225 x 6, 185 x 8)
Wide Grip Upright Rows
55 x 10, 65 x 8, (75 x 8, 65 x 8, 55 x 7)
T Cups
12.5 x 10, 15 x 8, (17.5 x 8, 12.5 x 8, 10 x 6)
Hack Squat Machine (Still taking it easy with my back)
45 per side x 10, 55 per side x 8, 70 per side x 8, 55 per side x 8
Hyper Extensions
3 sets 10
Also followed up with 33 minutes on the elliptical. I could have kept going, but I had a late start to the gym due to kid's soccer games.
Natadrol Thoughts:
One of the most impressive aspects so far is the vascularity and pump. I am walking around in a pumped state. I am up .5lbs so far, but weight gain is not the major goal for me on this run. I am hoping to recomp and drop some fat while staying around the same body weight. I am still seeing the diuretic affects, but the bathroom breaks are still more frequent than normal, but it not an issue. I have also seen an increase in endurance/stamina and DOMs are basically non-existant which is suprising considering how hard my workouts have been and how much weight I am moving around.
Off Days
Day 9:
Dosed 6 caps of Natadrol and 4 caps of PSARM today.
Thoughts:
This product is giving me the gym aggression similar to MMV2. It is like a switch is flipped when I hit the gym and I have a awesome aggression.
Workout:
Workout went good. I felt like I could have had a few more reps if I would have had my workout partner to spot me. Regardless I put up good numbers and I was satisfied with the session.
Chinups
10, 8, 6, 5
Decline Bench
135 x 10, 225 x 8 (245 x 6, 225 x 6, 185 x 8)
Wide Grip Upright Rows
55 x 10, 65 x 8, (75 x 8, 65 x 8, 55 x 7)
T Cups
12.5 x 10, 15 x 8, (17.5 x 8, 12.5 x 8, 10 x 6)
Hack Squat Machine (Still taking it easy with my back)
45 per side x 10, 55 per side x 8, 70 per side x 8, 55 per side x 8
Hyper Extensions
3 sets 10
Also followed up with 33 minutes on the elliptical. I could have kept going, but I had a late start to the gym due to kid's soccer games.
Natadrol Thoughts:
One of the most impressive aspects so far is the vascularity and pump. I am walking around in a pumped state. I am up .5lbs so far, but weight gain is not the major goal for me on this run. I am hoping to recomp and drop some fat while staying around the same body weight. I am still seeing the diuretic affects, but the bathroom breaks are still more frequent than normal, but it not an issue. I have also seen an increase in endurance/stamina and DOMs are basically non-existant which is suprising considering how hard my workouts have been and how much weight I am moving around.
Craigmatthew
Well-known member
You repping for us now brother?
metroba
Legend
MrKleen73
Legend
yep
Somehow I saw this coming... "Observant this one is... Yes?"
MrBigPR
NutraPlanet Rep
Liftergym33
Well-known member
I love how you compare this to MMv2.. I loved that stuff! man I wish I cold this stack right now based on what your saying.. up .5lb.. I knew you wanted a recomp..are you down BF%? what does the mirror say?.. I did start pissing more when first dosing ND, but it started sub siding around week 5 for me..
I know what a T-Bad is:lol:
yep
Whewwwwwwwww
You are wise Jedi
MrKleen73
Legend
Okay he ain't spillin so I will tell you, T-Cups (alternating movement between front and lateral raises stop at bottom just before where the tension releases from the shoulder, and change directions. Never let the arms go all the way down then change directions it releases the tension and allows for momentum to be used. So it is one front, one lateral, one front, one lateral... prepare to be demolished.)
FlexW99
Well-known member
I was going to ask the same thing.
If I do 30lb fronts and 25-30 laterals, what weight would you recommend for 8-10 reps?
Liftergym33
Well-known member
I need pictures...:lol:.. so basically your doing both movements at the same time... So when you come down from the lateral, go right into front raises..then?...wheeeeeeeeeeew
Liftergym33
Well-known member
I'm going to try it with 20's, and keep strick form, I'm sure doing both movements at the same time is going to tax you..
MrKleen73
Legend
Do it with a slight bend at the waist so the laterals also activate your rear delts too get the full effect. The slight bend also lenghtens the range of motion that gravity is directly acting on the weignt in the front raise portion.
Silver3CSRT8
Well-known member
Sorry guys for being away all damn day. Today was meeting hell. T-Cups are brutal especially following some heavy wide grip upright rows. I can hardly take off my shirt after those lifts.
Another note...congrats Metroba. Excellent fit.
Another note...congrats Metroba. Excellent fit.
metroba
Legend
thanks bronaseum :cheers:...stay focused and keep killn it bro!
MrKleen73
Legend
Scary, that nickname sounds almost like you want to play on him. Thank goodness his name isn't Jim, then we would all really know your true intentions here.
MrKleen73
Legend
I would start with 20-25, these get hard quickly because a set of 8-10 is really a set of 16-20 your shoulders will be ridiculously pumped at the end of them.
MATTYO1977
Active member
Silver,
I have been following along the entire time. Looks like it is treating you well. So well in fact that my order for 2 bottles of Natadrol came in the mail today. Those 2 bottles will be joining the 2 bottles of the original pSarm I have in the stash. I am going to follow your lead here and hit up a 6 weeker after spring break in April. That will be a good way to go into summer I think.
Keep up the good work!
I have been following along the entire time. Looks like it is treating you well. So well in fact that my order for 2 bottles of Natadrol came in the mail today. Those 2 bottles will be joining the 2 bottles of the original pSarm I have in the stash. I am going to follow your lead here and hit up a 6 weeker after spring break in April. That will be a good way to go into summer I think.
Keep up the good work!
MrKleen73
Legend
Did you try the older PSarm before and did you get any stomach issues if so? I found a good spot to get it but am leary, I don't want stomach issues.
Young Gotti
Well-known member
t-cups are the names huh....always called them da vinchi's...didn't know the real name but they remind me of Vitruvian Man" by Leonardo Da Vinchi, if i'm thinking of the same movement
Liftergym33
Well-known member
Thanks Kleen!...I also do wide grip uprights, ...so tomorrow Key thing is do these prior
..Funny Kleen,..I was going to do a set of ten..my new 4/10 work out..I misread your post, i thought you said 16-18 i was like:nono: hahaha..I had to re-read it
Liftergym33
Well-known member
He was cheap:lol:
Silver3CSRT8
Well-known member
Day 10:
Dosed 6 caps of Natadrol and 4 caps of PSARM today.
Thoughts:
I am at the half way point of this run and I am getting sad that it will be coming to an end. Luckily I responded well the last time I took Formadrol so I am kinda looking forward to that aspect of it.
Workout:
I am seriously impressed with the strength aspects of this product so far. I know there are probably still some doubters out there, but let me give some straight up evidence!
Flat Dumbbell Bench
65 x 10, 110 x 7 (110 x 7, 90 x 6, 80 x 6) (I don't think I have attempted 110s before and definitely not 14 times)
Supported T-Bar Row (Still taking it easy with my back)
45 x 10, 70 x 8 (100 x 8, 90 x 8, 80 x 7) (Went up 10lbs over last week's workout)
Seated Arnold Presses
45 x 10, 50 x 8 (55 x 7, 45 x 7, 40 x 8) (up 5lbs on the heavy sets while keeping the same reps)
DB Drag Curls
20 x 10, 25 x 8 (30 x 8, 25 x 8, 20 x 8) (Down 5lbs, but that is due to some soreness in my ligaments)
Leg Press
360 x 10, 450 x 8, 540 x 8
Skipped out on lunges again due to time. That is the bad part about working out at lunch especially when meetings and issues cause me to get a late start. Regardless, I felt like I totally smashed it and I was extremely satisfied with the session.
Natadrol Thoughts:
Stength - Going up faster than I would have imagined
Vascularity - Very suprising. It is on par or higher than PRIME and close to some prohormones in the pump department
Libidio - It is above normal, but being married, 3 kids and both of us working management level full time jobs make it hard to take advantage of.
Recovery - I hit my chest hard with those dumbbells and woke up the next morning with minimal DOMs. I figured the new routine mixed with taking it easy until basically when I started Natadrol (due to the back injury) that I would have serious DOMs with this hard core full body split. That has not been the case.
Sides - I have had a little acne. I have had zero ball shrinkage and no apparent shut down. I have had more frequent urination, but that has leveled out some as well. No crazy aggression except in the gym which I am happy about.
Dosed 6 caps of Natadrol and 4 caps of PSARM today.
Thoughts:
I am at the half way point of this run and I am getting sad that it will be coming to an end. Luckily I responded well the last time I took Formadrol so I am kinda looking forward to that aspect of it.
Workout:
I am seriously impressed with the strength aspects of this product so far. I know there are probably still some doubters out there, but let me give some straight up evidence!
Flat Dumbbell Bench
65 x 10, 110 x 7 (110 x 7, 90 x 6, 80 x 6) (I don't think I have attempted 110s before and definitely not 14 times)
Supported T-Bar Row (Still taking it easy with my back)
45 x 10, 70 x 8 (100 x 8, 90 x 8, 80 x 7) (Went up 10lbs over last week's workout)
Seated Arnold Presses
45 x 10, 50 x 8 (55 x 7, 45 x 7, 40 x 8) (up 5lbs on the heavy sets while keeping the same reps)
DB Drag Curls
20 x 10, 25 x 8 (30 x 8, 25 x 8, 20 x 8) (Down 5lbs, but that is due to some soreness in my ligaments)
Leg Press
360 x 10, 450 x 8, 540 x 8
Skipped out on lunges again due to time. That is the bad part about working out at lunch especially when meetings and issues cause me to get a late start. Regardless, I felt like I totally smashed it and I was extremely satisfied with the session.
Natadrol Thoughts:
Stength - Going up faster than I would have imagined
Vascularity - Very suprising. It is on par or higher than PRIME and close to some prohormones in the pump department
Libidio - It is above normal, but being married, 3 kids and both of us working management level full time jobs make it hard to take advantage of.
Recovery - I hit my chest hard with those dumbbells and woke up the next morning with minimal DOMs. I figured the new routine mixed with taking it easy until basically when I started Natadrol (due to the back injury) that I would have serious DOMs with this hard core full body split. That has not been the case.
Sides - I have had a little acne. I have had zero ball shrinkage and no apparent shut down. I have had more frequent urination, but that has leveled out some as well. No crazy aggression except in the gym which I am happy about.
Silver3CSRT8
Well-known member
Day 10:
Bicep, Cardio and Abs day
I decided to give myself a little more bicep work this week. I have had no DOMs and recovery seems great. I only did around 8 sets of various biceps exercises.
I also did 100 exercise ball crunches. ( I know not really enough to consider it an ab day)
I wanted to get my cardio in so I cut the ab work a little short and did 41 minutes on the elliptical (510 calories burned FTW).
Good Timez!
Bicep, Cardio and Abs day
I decided to give myself a little more bicep work this week. I have had no DOMs and recovery seems great. I only did around 8 sets of various biceps exercises.
I also did 100 exercise ball crunches. ( I know not really enough to consider it an ab day)
I wanted to get my cardio in so I cut the ab work a little short and did 41 minutes on the elliptical (510 calories burned FTW).
Good Timez!
Silver3CSRT8
Well-known member
Glad to hear that you are following along! I think you will be very suprised about the combo. I think I will rate that stack higher so far than MMV2. The lack of sides is a huge plus as well. It is really tempting to buy another bottle to get another 20 days on, but since I didn't wait so long after PCT before starting ND I think stopping after 20 days makes the best sense!
Silver3CSRT8
Well-known member
I didn't have a clue what T-Cups were when I first saw them on Kleen's workout. I think I finally found a description on google and it has been a fun addition (if you like pain!).
thundergod
Well-known member
Congratulations Metroba. I'm totally confident that you'll make LG a fantastic representative.
Craig......
I'm the best "undercover" rep you guys have!!
Oh.....and I need some of that new Anadraulic State GTSE and some MMV2 or 3 to go with it.....cough....cough.....
Make it happen!!! :439:
thundergod
Well-known member
Hel phukkin yes!!!:head:
Now this is awesome. That's heavy weights there brosenstein!!!:notworthy:
You're only on Day 10 too. It's all uphill from here.
Look out weights.......Big Silver is coming for yo ass!!!:angryfire:
