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LTL is crushing his fellow transformer's!

LiveToLift said:
Day 40

Weight 166 (+1.5)

Chest/tris. Expected some weight loss but the weigh in really had me pissed. This flu couldn't have happened at a worse time. Really felt weak and still wasn't 100 percent today. Stuck mainly with hammer strength machines today, didn't want to get injured with free weight as I was trying to ease back into everything.

Hammer chest press (weight per arm)
1x12 70
1x12 80
1x10 90
1x10 80

Hammer wide press (wpa)
1x12 70
1x12 85
1x10 95
1x11 100
1x12 85

Db flat flys
1x10 40
1x10 45
1x10 45

Vbar pull down
1x12 72.5
1x12 80
1x12 82.5
1x10 80

Close grip bench (wasn't feeling these)
1x8 115

Db overheads
1x12 60
1x12 65
1x10 70

Quit here, hoping strength and stamina will be back tomorrow! Just wasn't feeling it today.
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You will get back after it. Eat up on some carbs. :D
I got faith I'm you man.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Yeah your body doesn't actually start being catabolic toward muscle mass until after the 36 hour mark of fasting and a lot of times closer to 48. ADF or Alternate Day Fasting is typically a 30-36 hour fast followed by a 12-16 hour feed the following day. Some of them have about 50-75 grams of protein before bed the night of the fast but 30-36 hours is pretty typical. Don't sweat it at all. Now the only thing that could have caused catabolism in your situation would be a spike in cortisol from the stress of being ill but even that shouldn't have done any noticeable damage to your muscle in that short period of time.

Man you probably needed this sickness to beat me this week. ;) (obligatory smack talk)

I am leaning up fast right now. I went from "almost" seeing a vein in my lower abdomen to seeing a few veins pretty easily this week.
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I learned something here.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Yeah your body doesn't actually start being catabolic toward muscle mass until after the 36 hour mark of fasting and a lot of times closer to 48. ADF or Alternate Day Fasting is typically a 30-36 hour fast followed by a 12-16 hour feed the following day. Some of them have about 50-75 grams of protein before bed the night of the fast but 30-36 hours is pretty typical. Don't sweat it at all. Now the only thing that could have caused catabolism in your situation would be a spike in cortisol from the stress of being ill but even that shouldn't have done any noticeable damage to your muscle in that short period of time.

Man you probably needed this sickness to beat me this week. ;) (obligatory smack talk)

I am leaning up fast right now. I went from "almost" seeing a vein in my lower abdomen to seeing a few veins pretty easily this week.
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Kleen as I thought about this more I began to question it... Not the logic behind what you stated just the added factor of throwing up every thing that you have eaten in the day prior to the 30 hour period. Leaving me in a position where I may have been fasting for more around 40+ hours if you think about it?? I did notice a bit of strength loss today, a lot could be contributed to dehydration and still not being 100 percent but its hard to believe the 5.5 lbs I dropped could all be water/fat?? We will see how the rest of the week plays out. I'm noticing my body is reacting to food a lot similar to someone who has starved themselves, being it is storing everything that enters my body. I feel bloated and puffy in my upper abdomen after a normal sized to small meal and can only push down up to about 2200 calories a day with out feeling as if I'm having a baby. This is going to be a struggle to get back to where I was but I will keep pushing...
 
LiveToLift said:
Consider me Airborne42's mini in training! I need to be strong as ox!
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Way more shredded lol I look up to you bro! U transform better than optimus lol
 
LiveToLift said:
Fock Kleen you are doing crazy good lately! Nice work, and good info as always! Thanks. I love those veins in the abdomen I'd never had them until about a month ago! My girl says eww those are sick. ;-)
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My wife is not a big fan either. However for men it is a badge of leanness and muscularity.

AaronJP1 said:
I learned something here.
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I have been doing the different versions of Intermittent Fasting for about a year now. Maybe longer. I did a lot of reading up on them and found that information to be both fascinating and freeing. It completely changes the game for me as far as enjoying how I eat. I get some more options for food by having less frequent meals but more calorie dense foods when I eat.

LiveToLift said:
Kleen as I thought about this more I began to question it... Not the logic behind what you stated just the added factor of throwing up every thing that you have eaten in the day prior to the 30 hour period. Leaving me in a position where I may have been fasting for more around 40+ hours if you think about it?? I did notice a bit of strength loss today, a lot could be contributed to dehydration and still not being 100 percent but its hard to believe the 5.5 lbs I dropped could all be water/fat?? We will see how the rest of the week plays out. I'm noticing my body is reacting to food a lot similar to someone who has starved themselves, being it is storing everything that enters my body. I feel bloated and puffy in my upper abdomen after a normal sized to small meal and can only push down up to about 2200 calories a day with out feeling as if I'm having a baby. This is going to be a struggle to get back to where I was but I will keep pushing...
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That is probably valid regarding the fact you purged, that you were around 40 hours. Remember, I said that more often then not beyond the 40 mark. Now the weakness is due to being sick but you also have to realize that during that time the body had to resort to going after glycogen stored in muscle. That is not catabolism, it is just using the resources. However you have been dieting and remaining strict so you haven't really replenished the glycogen stores. That will cause a major loss in muscle volume but not the size of the muscle fiber itself. Have a minor refeed, say add 100g carbs to whatever your normal cutting carb count is just 1 day and see if you don't feel better. Don't sweat this because just like a workout you will rebound from any damage and probably surpass your previous condition in the process.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Even so, I said that more often then not beyond the 40 mark. Now the weakness is due to being sick but you also have to realize that during that time the body had to resort to going after glycogen stored in muscle. That is not catabolism, it is just using the resources. However you have been dieting and remaining strict so you haven't really replenished the glycogen stores. That will cause a major loss in muscle volume but not the size of the muscle fiber itself. Have a minor refeed, say add 100g carbs to whatever your normal cutting carb count is just 1 day and see if you don't feel better. Don't sweat this because just like a workout you will rebound from any damage and probably surpass your previous condition in the process.
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Thank you for the awesome feedback bro! Honestly its weird as I read your post I start to notice that I'm starting to feel fuller after just one good carb loaded post workout! HAHA no joke, I just need to get this out of my head and fight off the fatigue and I'll be unleashed again!
 
LiveToLift said:
Day 40

Weight 166 (+1.5)

Chest/tris. Expected some weight loss but the weigh in really had me pissed. This flu couldn't have happened at a worse time. Really felt weak and still wasn't 100 percent today. Stuck mainly with hammer strength machines today, didn't want to get injured with free weight as I was trying to ease back into everything.

Hammer chest press (weight per arm)
1x12 70
1x12 80
1x10 90
1x10 80

Hammer wide press (wpa)
1x12 70
1x12 85
1x10 95
1x11 100
1x12 85

Db flat flys
1x10 40
1x10 45
1x10 45

Vbar pull down
1x12 72.5
1x12 80
1x12 82.5
1x10 80

Close grip bench (wasn't feeling these)
1x8 115

Db overheads
1x12 60
1x12 65
1x10 70

Quit here, hoping strength and stamina will be back tomorrow! Just wasn't feeling it today.
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Great workout bro!!! Numbers looking good but what happened to all that weight you gained?? Don't tell me you lost it while you were sick...anyway as long as you good and feeling well you will get back in no time...I kno it!!!
 
punjabimunde said:
Great workout bro!!! Numbers looking good but what happened to all that weight you gained?? Don't tell me you lost it while you were sick...anyway as long as you good and feeling well you will get back in no time...I kno it!!!
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Yep flu caused major dehydration and some fat loss. Hopefully I'll be back at it in no time! ;-)
 
Pull through my brotha! Its one of those curve balls life throws at you during the worst possible times. Unfortunately my cycle was riddled with "life", but I am hoping to have a real smooth PCT.
 
TurningGreen said:
Pull through my brotha! Its one of those curve balls life throws at you during the worst possible times. Unfortunately my cycle was riddled with "life", but I am hoping to have a real smooth PCT.
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Definitely trying, not sure how my body hasn't recovered fully after 4 days. We will see what happens in the next few. Still having random pains in my stomach and sides and back pumps have been crazy since that flu. I really think the flu took a perfect cycle and reeked havoc on it. I'm not sure my body is going to put up with another two weeks to be honest, I hate to say it... I'm a trooper though so I'll wait it out but I'm also not on a suicide mission, I realize the flu compromised my immune system as well as put a number on my organs.
 
Day 41

Weight 166

Back/abs. Rushed as I forgot my gym closed early. For some reason I thought it was still a weekday.

Bent over bb row
1x12 135
1x10 155
1x9 175
1x8 185

Close grip lat pull down
1x12 140
2x8 160

Low row
1x12 140
1x11 160
1x10 160
1x10 162.5

Hammer pull down (wpa)
2x10 90

20 mins between weighted sit-ups, leg lifts and ab coaster
 
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And it is not even Monday....
 
LiveToLift said:
Day 41

Weight 166

Back/abs. Rushed as I forgot my gym closed early. For some reason I thought it was still a weekday.

Bent over bb row
1x12 135
1x10 155
1x9 175
1x8 185

Close grip lat pull down
1x12 140
2x8 160

Low row
1x12 140
1x11 160
1x10 160
1x10 162.5

Hammer pull down (wpa)
2x10 90

20 mins between weighted sit-ups, leg lifts and ab coaster
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Even you not feeling 100% you still manage to lift good amount of weights brother...really keep going bro soon you'll be back in no time
 
punjabimunde said:
Even you not feeling 100% you still manage to lift good amount of weights brother...really keep going bro soon you'll be back in no time
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Thanks bro! Felt my energy and strength picking up today, a lot of the abs were done supersetted with my lifts because I had limited time. Yesterday I was so fatigued there was no way I could have done that! Ill get back fully!
 
MrKleen73 said:
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And it is not even Monday....
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Nice work bro! My abs took a beating from not working for those days! Not even sure I can see my full six anymore!
 
Oh no I thought you said it helped you get leaner.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Oh no I thought you said it helped you get leaner.
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It did for sure. However when your body rebounds after not being fed for so long it tends to store I'm noticing. Every time I eat Im getting incredible bloating going on in my abdomen as If my body is afraid it is going to be in a fasted state again.. I'm still lean but it's hard to flex my abs because my stomach still gets severe pain. If you would have seen what took place during my illness you would be shocked. Cycling causes my muscles to experience extreme cramping. While I was throwing up every twenty minutes for that entire day I was experiencing multiple debilitating cramps all at the same time caused by my up chuck movements. It damn near put me in the ER. I still have a pulled muscle in my shoulder/neck and my sides still ache. I haven't ever experienced such vulnerability in my adult life.

Through out this I still made it to work every day, an average person not only would have called off work they would still be in the hospital in my opinion. I was very afraid this was caused by the cycling so didn't post on here right away how bad the situation really was. When I showed up at work and my assistant said they had the same illness I was very relieved. Though mine has lasted a few days longer then there's, IMO I believe it could be due to the orals. What kills me is I passed it off to my fiancé who had to call off work today and hasn't been out of bed in over 24 hours. My son is now running a fever and I feel terrible my family is going through this. I'm working 7 days 60 plus hours so I can't stay home and take care of them. Life's a bitch at times for sure.
 
Good to see you're slowy getting back to normal. The way you've been working I'd think you'll still end up make progress this week.

Sorry to hear about your girl and son. Must be rough.
 
breezy11 said:
Good to see you're slowy getting back to normal. The way you've been working I'd think you'll still end up make progress this week.

Sorry to hear about your girl and son. Must be rough.
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Definitely felt much better today breez, yesterday I had to sit between sets, today I was moving the whole time!

Thanks for your concern bro, it means a lot.
 
Appetite is increasing, I may be able to get in over 3k cals today. Highest I've managed since getting the flu was about 2300! The last 8 hours have been pretty good Hdrol dose is at 100 daily for now, hopefully we can keep this going! Can't wait to crush shoulders tomorrow!!
 
LiveToLift said:
Appetite is increasing, I may be able to get in over 3k cals today. Highest I've managed since getting the flu was about 2300! The last 8 hours have been pretty good Hdrol dose is at 100 daily for now, hopefully we can keep this going! Can't wait to crush shoulders tomorrow!!
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Hell ya bro EAT EAT EAT!
 
LiveToLift said:
Appetite is increasing, I may be able to get in over 3k cals today. Highest I've managed since getting the flu was about 2300! The last 8 hours have been pretty good Hdrol dose is at 100 daily for now, hopefully we can keep this going! Can't wait to crush shoulders tomorrow!!
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I heard 100 is the sweet spot for h drol...I nvr did h drol cycle...it looks like a good Ph...maybe in future I'll give it a try...and yea bro keep eating and get urself back ASAP...I wanna see you win this :)
 
punjabimunde said:
I heard 100 is the sweet spot for h drol...I nvr did h drol cycle...it looks like a good Ph...maybe in future I'll give it a try...and yea bro keep eating and get urself back ASAP...I wanna see you win this :)
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I definitely recommend it! I like it personally better then Mdrol.

I'll do my best I've been thinking a lot lately and weighing my risks to options. Mid week I will explain what I'm going to be doing as far as pct etc.
 
Glad to hear you are recovering from the flu! Keep at it!
 
Good to hear you are feeling better. You already take your pics or you waiting until tomorrow for the extra recovery? I have yesterdays and may take some here in a few and even tomorrow just to see what comes out the best. That little abdomen shot was from yesterday at the gym.
 
Going to take some when I get home from the gym a little later. Can't wait to see your pics bro!
 
Cool I can't wait to see how well you recovered. I am sure better than you think.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Cool I can't wait to see how well you recovered. I am sure better than you think.
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I'm very harsh on myself, weight is still down but strength was good today. ;-)
 
Day 42

Weight 166 (+1.5)

Shoulders/cardio/abs

Military press smith
1x9 125
1x8 135
1x6 145
1x7 125

Shrugs smith
1x15 185
1x12 205
1x10 215
1x10 225
1x8 235
1x8 245
1x10 205

Incline db press
1x8 70
1x8 75 (PR)
1x6 80 (PR)

Upright rows
1x8 110
1x9 100
1x11 100

Incline speed walk 11 mins for 125 cals

25 mins of ab work, hanging leg lifts, ab coaster and crunches.
 
Knocking out the PR's....nice job. Is that a sign that things are back to normal?
 
LiveToLift said:
Day 42

Weight 166 (+1.5)

Shoulders/cardio/abs

Military press smith
1x9 125
1x8 135
1x6 145
1x7 125

Shrugs smith
1x15 185
1x12 205
1x10 215
1x10 225
1x8 235
1x8 245
1x10 205

Incline db press
1x8 70
1x8 75 (PR)
1x6 80 (PR)

Upright rows
1x8 110
1x9 100
1x11 100

Incline speed walk 11 mins for 125 cals

25 mins of ab work, hanging leg lifts, ab coaster and crunches.
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Great workout bro!!! With that numbers I think you are back!!! Doing PRs...keep it up!!!
 
breezy11 said:
Knocking out the PR's....nice job. Is that a sign that things are back to normal?
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I'm definitely getting close! Felt strong today, didn't let the weight loss get to my head and mess up my numbers. Felt strong as hell on the db inclines. Wish I would have started at 75 cause I feel i could have got to 5 for 85 if I had. :-)

punjabimunde said:
Great workout bro!!! With that numbers I think you are back!!! Doing PRs...keep it up!!!
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Thanks brosef! I'm trying hard! Still limiting any cardio work because my weight is so low right now as it is. The PR's felt great though for sure!
 
Nice with the PR's I imagine you have recovered well.
 
Uploading photos now......... Sneak peak just for you rickrock, tried to do that pose, didn't quite nail it but it is a good one
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Focking A! Nice pic man! Looking studly! Starting to resemble RR physique but then again he is growing like crazy now.
 
LiveToLift said:
Uploading photos now......... Sneak peak just for you rickrock, tried to do that pose, didn't quite nail it but it is a good one
<img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=59302"/>
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Looking good bro!!! Vascular and lean!!!
 
Nice shot LTL! Beastly!

Look at them striations in the chest! The pec is going to literally rip itself off from the ribcage!
 
LiveToLift said:
Uploading photos now......... Sneak peak just for you rickrock, tried to do that pose, didn't quite nail it but it is a good one
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Killer chest man!!!!!!!
 
Alright here we go, definitely leaner this week but I was shocked at the size I look especially on back with the 6 lb loss! I would like some input on what shots to use, sorry no legs this week was trying to get these done and out of the way because of work tonight and trying to get some food etc all in one. Some look like doubles not sure if I messed it up some how...

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Looking still ripped bro!!! Flu had done no damage to you....great transformation my brother!!!
 
punjabimunde said:
Looking still ripped bro!!! Flu had done no damage to you....great transformation my brother!!!
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Thanks punj! It took some weight off but I'm still going to pull through I think!
 
Looking good, back is really defined. Your chest looks bigger now that you aren't pinning your shoulders back.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Looking good, back is really defined. Your chest looks bigger now that you aren't pinning your shoulders back.
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Good feedback bro, your pics up yet??? ;-) Chest is definitely way better in that new stance that I started last week. Sacrifice some ab definition with it but chest is way better.
 
Looking great LTL! Your weight loss appears to have been nothing more than fat and glycogen and a little water bro. You appear to be retaining all your muscle from when you were heavier. You are looking very good and lean my friend. I gotta say I'm starting to get jealous of all you guys getting ripped. I've kinda been going the other way, and after the weekend I had I feel and look like a cow in my mind. My shredding doesn't start for another 3 weeks, so I need to be careful to minimize damage.

Keep killing it bro!
 
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