hcgenerate never again
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RickRock13
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I'm glad the news is out!! Everything now makes a lot more sense and Nate comes through to more than help those that did the pre-sale. 2 bottles of HCGenerate, an ass lightning, and a better protein bars for 100$ suddenly doesn't sound like anyone is getting ripped off anymore! I am a very happy man to be a part of this wonderful company with a great giving owner!!
When HCGenerate gets in for all of us, I'm all over it!!
When HCGenerate gets in for all of us, I'm all over it!!
chocolatemilk
Well-known member
NTBM always takes care of its customers 
andrew732
Well-known member
I have owned Needtobuildmuscle.com for almost 3 years now and since that day nether my mission statement nor my actions behind it have wavered.
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Mission statement/about my company^^
I love every one of my customers more then anyone could ever imagine and would do almost anything for thous who support me every day. To my friends and family out on the forums of anabolicminds, elitefitness, ology, RX and many others I would like to say thank you. Thank you for always supporting me, thank you for always trusting me the way that many of you do. Most of all thank you for giving me the joy of being able to serve, help, encourage, provide, inspire, strengthen and share with all of you. My life is better because of each one of you who have chosen to be a part of my life or allow me to be a part of yours. No matter how great or how small a part that is, I hold it in high regards and I always have.
I want everyone here to know I do all that I do for the ones that I love and as sappy as it may sound I love all of you , even thous of you whom I have never met and may never get the chance to meet.
The past few years of my life have changed a lot. I have given all that I am to others and made every effort possible to uplift thous around me and it has felt damn good to do so. I like how I feel each day and I love the positive changes and karma that it has given back to me.
I understand and accept no matter what I am never going to be above reproach nor will I ever be exempt from mistakes. I have made more then my share But when I do I don't just try to save face about them, back peddle around then, or ignore them. I allow it to linger in my mind, I learn from them, and I never forget them. Then, if my mistakes have involved the lives of anothes, I go to the ends of the earth to try not only to make amends but exceed what ever debts is owed to them. Because it matters to me, The members here matter to me, the people I do business with matter to me, people matter to me!
This past month I offered a pre sale on my hcgenerate product. A product that everyone knows has been on of the most sought after and highly spoken off product in the industry right now. It has been almost imposable for me to keep up with the demand of hcgenerate. Despite every effort made to help the growers of my Fadoga grow more, grow it faster, and harvest faster there has not been enough. Despite my pleas with my manufacturer it can not be made any faster. I even bought the whole crew concert tickets to see linken park as a thanks for working so hard to try and keep up. I have doubled , then tripled my order sizes to no avail, my customer demand has always exceeded my supply..
Because of this I think some would have others believe, or may even believe them selves that I have withheld product in an attempt to drive up price. Or that I would take advantage of others because of these facts and drive up price just to make a profit. Or that I would do something like charge an insulting price just for my own gain.
Throughout my time here on this site, as well as my many years of being on all the forums that I am on. I have done nothing but give to the people around me. I feel as though I have not only proved my generosity to others but I have earned a right to be excluded from being counted among men of greed, or profit driven character.
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/company-promotions/172640-omg-long-overdue.html
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/comp...-needtobuildmuscle-nutraplanet-transform.html
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/company-promotions/165272-rlssupplements-nutraplanet-fre.html
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/company-promotions/160721-ok-my-am.html
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/company-promotions/163000-ntbm-brand-new.html
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/company-promotions/163422-o-yess-its.html
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/company-promotions/161583-promised-mrsupps-com.html
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/company-promotions/160138-ntbmis-giving-free.html
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Yes I expect the criticism of thous who hate me or compete with me. I know they are always going to be right there every second of the day waiting to pounce on any chance they can get to point at me. I know they dream about the chance to post whore in threads like this one. However My continuous and repetitive actions have and always will squelch their weak worthless attempts to paint pictures that are not there in these kinds of threads. They have never been there and they never will be, no matter how much imaginary paint is lathered on the canvas .
I define who I am, my perpetual actions show my character. My everlasting dedication to my mission statements have shown everyone time and time again I will not, I can not, and I have not compromised them in any way.
To anyone and everyone who made the mistake of thinking I raised the price on this last batch of hcgenerate for my own personal gain I am truly sorry you have felt that way. I am sorry it may have upset you, I am sorry it might have caused a inconvenience to you, and above everything else. I am sorry that by now I have not earned enough of your trust to show you that I would never be that kind of person.
On or around the middle of April I had heard from My connections I would be getting in a little bit over 300 units of Hcgenerate within 10 to 14 days. As you can imagine I was pretty excited about the news but I managed to keep it to my self and the only other person I told about this was Rob my head of sales.
During the months and weeks up to this date there had been a lot of people on many forums talking about the unavailability of product. I am sure many of you have seen these threads and maybe have even made a few of your own. Not only had threads about its availability (or lack thereof ) been made but also on a lot of forums, threads about "pre selling it" were being made.
Among the locals on any forum, I have always been known to dislike pre sales and this has never changed. I hate taking a mans money without having a product to give him and hate even more doing so without an exact date of receiving his product to give him. So My reply to threads on the subject have always been no, no, preceded by more no's.
My unwillingness to do pre sales believe it or not prompted some users to post about there willingness to pay a higher price to be able to insure they were able to get a bottle of hcgenerate. That they were willing to pay more to pre buy the product "because they ether loved it and wanted to make sure they got it for there next cycle, or had never tried it and really wanted to".
Not only were post of this nature made but soon phone calls, emails, and pm's of the same nature started to pile up. I thought about this for a long time. The more I heard some one say " I have never gotten a chance to use the product" the more compelled I became to have the pre sale everyone kept asking for. Also to sell it at a much higher price so that the people who had been asking me to give them this chance would be insured a much better chance of getting the product.
The higher price turned many off but at the time it did serve the exact purpose it was intended too. It gave 150 very happy people the chance to get a product they wanted very very badly for what ever reason they wanted it. So well some were relishing in the chance to point a finger the ones who wanted it, the ones it was intended for were very happy and content with it.
When I put the hcgenerate on pre sale I wrote a long peace in the store explaining who the pre sale was for. I explained if you did not like the price no one was holding a gun to your head and forcing you to buy it!!
I have not once let my customers down and as long as I can help it I never will. I wanted to fill the needs of a small group of customers that day and I did. I cared about them then and I care even more about them now. They trusted me as they always have. I have never given any of them a reason not to trust me. I have never done them wrong. In the end they know that Needtogetaas is always going to take good care of them and always going to pull threw for them no matter what!!!
The people who know the real me knew my intentions the day of the hcgenerate pre sale. They have always known, and to this day they have not allowed anyone's WORDS to change their minds about that which I have proven to them countless times over. Nor did their trust in me falter when they saw the high price of the hcgenerate in the store. And if anyone remember in the write up I also hinted to everyone that if you bought the Hcgenerate at the pre sale price you would not be let down or disapointed in me for it. That everyone who paid for the hcgenerate at the much higher price was going to end up happy. If you were not happy with the price you did not have to pay it and you could wait until more came in for sale, but if you were happy to pay then you would not be disappointed in the end. I did the best I could to make it known well at the same time not give it away. I was very repetitive but not to the point of giving it away completely.
Again I apologies to You the starter of this thread and to anyone who may have felt the same as you have good friend. I wish you had had more faith in me when you saw the high price of the product bro. I wish you had maybe even come to me and asked me what it was about. I truly believed that before that day I had earned your trust and at the very least earned a benefit of the doubt if only for just this one time??
I hope for your sake that even though you made this thread you went and bought a bottle on pre sale anyway. You have always been a favorite customer of mine dude and I hate to see you miss out on the awesome plan I came up with the day of the pre sale. If not Its all good I will contact you and make amends to you bro. As well as do the same for anyone in this thread whom I believe has always been a good customer and supporter of me.
However!!! Without further ado let me let the cat out of the bag. I am doubling every order of hcgenerate bought at the raised pre sale price. Which had been my intentions from day one. I kept this information between my reps and I as well as a select few of the customers who had ordered the products.
Once I new I would be getting a little over 300 units of hcgenerate. I set the my store back end to 150 units of hcgenerate for pre sale. Making it so that I could give each and every pre sale order of hcgenerate 1 free bottle for every bottle they bought.
As I told everyone in the store write up about the pre sale. It was not about making a profit. As I have not only said thousands of times on the forums, but have proven countless times over. It has never been nor will it ever be about the money for me. A long time ago I made promises to many people, and I have been making promises ever since then, that I would always give everything I have and try as hard as I can to do business the way everyone has always hoped a man would. Also that when I make mistakes I don't insult others with offers for discounts to scam more of there money out of them. NO my friends unlike others when I make a mistake I own it, and more then make up for it. Which brings us to the next present for my loyal customers who bought the pre sale hcgenerate.
Not only am I going to be doubling your orders guys. But because it has been a bit later then we had all been expecting (10-14 days) I am also going to be including a free six pack of ass lightning and a free bag of better protein bars in every order!!!!
To my loyal customers who have always believed in me I can not thank you enough. Thank you for always standing by me no matter what. Not once have I ever let a single one of you down who have stood by me! DID YOU REALLY THINK THIS TIME WOULD BE ANY DIFFERENT? To thous of you who did I am sorry and I promise I'll make it up to you.
Enjoy the free hcgenerate guys, in my mind you more then deserved it for showing me just how much you trust and support me. To others I hope that in the future I can some day earn your trust as well. Maybe you too can get the chance to reap the rewords of being a part of my family. Because my family gets taken care of . I share everything with the NTBM family and I always will. I love my family so much and relish every opportunity I get to show it them.
Anyone who is a part of NTBM is my family. If you come to my forums, support my products, support me, are on my rep team, friends with me and or my team, support what NTBM stands for, or can look at what we are about now and want to be a part of it. Then you are family to me and I will always treat you as such. So come on and join us , you are always welcome in the house of NTBM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is a real nice gesture on your behalf needto, especially that you will lose out on money.
gymrat827
Well-known member
I always felt NTBM was a stand up company and use them regularly along with my LG products and a couple more.
GREAT STUFF NEED2!
X2, their products speak for themselves:yup:
T-Bone
Banned
The people that buy them are mostly over-privileged snobs. Macs are the exact same hardware as a pc, yet they are 3 times the price for equivalent hardware. I don't know why I'm looking at this thread though. Never would buy any supplements for this brand.
diablosho
Active member
I'm not sure, but don't Macs have different platforms. Something like memory controllers are different, different northbridge/southbridge, pci buses, etc. I'm pretty sure there actually are some significant differences between macs and pcs, but I could be VERY wrong. I've never really even used a mac, much less owned one, but I was really getting into linux, and subsequently managed to learn a little bit about them (very little), and I just thought I had read something to this effect.
OrganicShadow
Well-known member
Consider this: why would they mark the price up so high although the formula may not be that overly different? If it's preselling for $100 then one of two things are happening as a marketing scheme:
1) Get it now at our promotional price. Can't garuntee it'll be on the shelves or the price may go up if it gets hot
2) The product is what it is...ntbm. BUT by marking the price high you get people thinking "Oh ****, this must be good if its expensive." And you make more sales based on the price tag. This is much more likely and a doubling effect for the company. It worked for Levis in Japan. The first time they introduced their jeans in Japan they put them at equivilant pricing as in the US... bad sales. Pull em off the shelves and re-introduce them 20 years later for top dollar...BOOM, huge sales for the same exact product.
1) Get it now at our promotional price. Can't garuntee it'll be on the shelves or the price may go up if it gets hot
2) The product is what it is...ntbm. BUT by marking the price high you get people thinking "Oh ****, this must be good if its expensive." And you make more sales based on the price tag. This is much more likely and a doubling effect for the company. It worked for Levis in Japan. The first time they introduced their jeans in Japan they put them at equivilant pricing as in the US... bad sales. Pull em off the shelves and re-introduce them 20 years later for top dollar...BOOM, huge sales for the same exact product.
T-Bone
Banned
No. Hardware wise they are exactly the same.
OrganicShadow
Well-known member
Mac is another good analogy. It's just a name for the same stuff.
Same with Coach, True Religion, Toshiba (to some degree), iPhone, MuscleTech, BMW... etc. You're paying for a name.
Same with Coach, True Religion, Toshiba (to some degree), iPhone, MuscleTech, BMW... etc. You're paying for a name.
diablosho
Active member
Hmm. That's interesting! So it's simply a matter of motherboard/processor type/form factor, firmware, bios, and os? Seems like there should be more to it, but I'm sure you're right. I'm going to have to learn about this stuff sooner or later (Comp. Sci. major), so I find this to be pretty interesting stuff! Thanks for the info!
T-Bone
Banned
Started in 2006.Invalid Link Removed. I recommend you purchase Scott Muellers Books. U&R Pcs is his most popular. I'd recommend waiting for his latest though that will be out sometime in August. Check Amazon. There is also a ton of information on his site that I linked.
diablosho
Active member
Excellent! Very good read, glad you posted that!
needtogetmuscle
Banned
Meh Believe what you wish. No one who buys my products will ever be unhappy and if they ever were then my refund is always there for them if they want it.
When you buy from me you're not only getting the best product I can possible make using the very best , sparing no expense but you are also getting a service that is number 1. A company with a owner and a group of people behind it that give a damn about you and every other customer. More often then not, what most people think is a bargain, is something that ain't even worth what they paid for it, at a price they couldn't resist!
You can say my products are the same as others all you like. The people who have used them will always beg to differ with you. Just like you would not catch me dead in a pare of wrangler jeans because I hate the way they feel , hate the way they look and they fall apart over time too. Not everything that cost more is the same thing as a cheaper kind and not everything cheap is a bargain ether.
Not a single complaint about my products other then coming from the people who never used them. Frankly you have absolutely nothing to lose by testing my words ether. I have a 100% money back policy and I would love for anyone to test my words and see if I am not a man of them.
Price is what you pay, Value is what you get my friends, some people understand it and some don't . Anyone with eyes and half a brain can calculate cost but so there is do few with enough experience to no real value. If more people asked them selves When buying A products , "would I buy the whole company" I bet more people would invest in buying NTBM products.
I think that deep down most people like to know they are getting what they pay for, they also want to be treated like more then just another customer. They want to feel like they are buying, not being sold!
I don't sell cheap crappy supplements nor do I provide sub par service. It has become increasingly hard to provide perfect service and treat every single customer like friends and family as NTBM has grown . But I will spend every waking hour of my life getting it don, every dollar I have to make it happen. Seems more people then one would think like what I provide to them and every single one of them would agree it ain't the same thing they can get anywhere else.
So I am not interested in selling cheap worthless garbage nor will I ever be. For the person who beleives they can get the same thing from somewhere else then all the power to you. I don't want to sell you nor do I need to sell you.. The people who are looking for the best will come and they will get what they pay for when they do. They will get the best service and treatment I can give them and the best products I can make them too. If they need help beyond this I would gladly help them with this as well.
To anyone reading this right now who has never tried any of my products before. Give then a chance and give me a chance, if I am not worth the money and my products are not worth the money that you paid then simple ask for your money back and I will give it to you. Even after you have used the product , because I ain't scared and I back my products all the way to the end. I don't just back them till I have convinced you to buy them, I don't just back them until I have convinced you they are the better deal. No I back them all the way to the very end and when it counts most.
So its like this. Maybe you might get what you pay for when buying from some one else and maybe you wont. Maybe you can get the same thing as my products for cheaper and maybe you cant. But regardless of how anyone spins it it don't matter because there is still only one way to find out and that is by trying my products. And there is one good reason to try my products over almost all the other so called " same thing" kinds out there. ITS COST YOU NOTHING TO FIND OUT IF YOU WILL GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!!! Argue all you want you cant argue that there is any product out there that has a better value then one that is FREE if it does not prove its value to you now can you.
When you buy from me you're not only getting the best product I can possible make using the very best , sparing no expense but you are also getting a service that is number 1. A company with a owner and a group of people behind it that give a damn about you and every other customer. More often then not, what most people think is a bargain, is something that ain't even worth what they paid for it, at a price they couldn't resist!
You can say my products are the same as others all you like. The people who have used them will always beg to differ with you. Just like you would not catch me dead in a pare of wrangler jeans because I hate the way they feel , hate the way they look and they fall apart over time too. Not everything that cost more is the same thing as a cheaper kind and not everything cheap is a bargain ether.
Not a single complaint about my products other then coming from the people who never used them. Frankly you have absolutely nothing to lose by testing my words ether. I have a 100% money back policy and I would love for anyone to test my words and see if I am not a man of them.
Price is what you pay, Value is what you get my friends, some people understand it and some don't . Anyone with eyes and half a brain can calculate cost but so there is do few with enough experience to no real value. If more people asked them selves When buying A products , "would I buy the whole company" I bet more people would invest in buying NTBM products.
I think that deep down most people like to know they are getting what they pay for, they also want to be treated like more then just another customer. They want to feel like they are buying, not being sold!
I don't sell cheap crappy supplements nor do I provide sub par service. It has become increasingly hard to provide perfect service and treat every single customer like friends and family as NTBM has grown . But I will spend every waking hour of my life getting it don, every dollar I have to make it happen. Seems more people then one would think like what I provide to them and every single one of them would agree it ain't the same thing they can get anywhere else.
So I am not interested in selling cheap worthless garbage nor will I ever be. For the person who beleives they can get the same thing from somewhere else then all the power to you. I don't want to sell you nor do I need to sell you.. The people who are looking for the best will come and they will get what they pay for when they do. They will get the best service and treatment I can give them and the best products I can make them too. If they need help beyond this I would gladly help them with this as well.
To anyone reading this right now who has never tried any of my products before. Give then a chance and give me a chance, if I am not worth the money and my products are not worth the money that you paid then simple ask for your money back and I will give it to you. Even after you have used the product , because I ain't scared and I back my products all the way to the end. I don't just back them till I have convinced you to buy them, I don't just back them until I have convinced you they are the better deal. No I back them all the way to the very end and when it counts most.
So its like this. Maybe you might get what you pay for when buying from some one else and maybe you wont. Maybe you can get the same thing as my products for cheaper and maybe you cant. But regardless of how anyone spins it it don't matter because there is still only one way to find out and that is by trying my products. And there is one good reason to try my products over almost all the other so called " same thing" kinds out there. ITS COST YOU NOTHING TO FIND OUT IF YOU WILL GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!!! Argue all you want you cant argue that there is any product out there that has a better value then one that is FREE if it does not prove its value to you now can you.
Blergs
Well-known member
thats why I NTBM is on top of my list along with LG, TP and only a couple other select few companys.
people bitching here seem to be like 1/1000th of the costomer base.
I RARELY hear any complaints, even this one is just about price, which need2 to has now cut in half (doubling up what you get from pre-order)
I dont know why anyone is bitching acually.
dont like it, dont buy it. its that simple.
I know what i like.
Young Gotti
Well-known member
thats why I NTBM is on top of my list along with LG, TP and only a couple other select few companys.
people bitching here seem to be like 1/1000th of the costomer base.
I RARELY hear any complaints, even this one is just about price, which need2 to has now cut in half (doubling up what you get from pre-order)
I dont know why anyone is bitching acually.
dont like it, dont buy it. its that simple.
I know what i like.
thanks for the kind words....always like to hear customers opinions and other reps attaining their goals side by side with us.....thats why we're all here in the first place right?
RickRock13
Well-known member
thats why I NTBM is on top of my list along with LG, TP and only a couple other select few companys.
people bitching here seem to be like 1/1000th of the costomer base.
I RARELY hear any complaints, even this one is just about price, which need2 to has now cut in half (doubling up what you get from pre-order)
I dont know why anyone is bitching acually.
dont like it, dont buy it. its that simple.
I know what i like.
:goodpost:
chocolatemilk
Well-known member
Markusrulezzz
Banned
I like needtobuildmuscle staff and their website, very professional people, mods, users , everything... Good people
The only thing that I don't like about them is the prices), I mean I understand there are people out there that don't have connection to the real stuff so they go with the legal expensive stuff
The only thing that I don't like about them is the prices
), I mean I understand there are people out there that don't have connection to the real stuff so they go with the legal expensive stuff
kanakafarian
Well-known member
I like needtobuildmuscle staff and their website, very professional people, mods, users , everything... Good people
The only thing that I don't like about them is the prices
Their prices are very competitive with most other brands! Not to mention the free shipping which is especially good if you're putting in a smaller order. And there's always a 10, 15, or 20% discount code going on. It actually ends up cheaper in most cases.
RickRock13
Well-known member
Well said bro! Thanks for the support. What you said is very true. We are even running a 20% off sale right now that also gives you chances to win more $$ to use at the NTBM store on top of it!! People are winning gift certificates anywhere from 15$ to 75$ pretty regularly.
...and HCGenerate IS in stock!!
Just enter "20%off" at checkout for the discount!!
SouthernLord
Member
I know this is an HCGenerate thread, but my phytoserm should be here today 
RickRock13
Well-known member
needtogetmuscle
Banned
I like needtobuildmuscle staff and their website, very professional people, mods, users , everything... Good people
The only thing that I don't like about them is the prices
Bro I make products specifically for the people who can find and get the "real stuff". If you are a steroid user and chemically enhanced my friend then you want my products even more then the natural athletes/users.
Bro I want you to give me a call today 978 378 4266 and I mean this. I got a few things I want to give you plus have a little conversation as well.
I am headed to the store right now but will be back in a hour or so. Call me today any time past 3pm till 12 midnight. If you get the chance to see this.
Markusrulezzz
Banned
lol no man ! I'm good but just give me the 20% discount code because I love the HCGenerate and I had no idea it's back in stock again
good stuff for PCT
Don't get me wrong again, I love your people and I have tried your Halo, Epi, Beast, Diesel and Forma... Me like your products
pablogdog
Member
hoopem6
Well-known member
Talk about customer service... Despite our past arguments, I have to admit I'm very impressed by this gesture! You very rarely see company owners express the desire to verbally communicate with their customer base. Again, props!
BarbellBeast
Well-known member
right on bro... :yup:
kanakafarian
Well-known member
Now this is truly a man who stands by his product :fing02: And for those NTBM haters, what more could you ask for in a company. I've never seen or heard of customer service like this before! Outstanding!
RickRock13
Well-known member
You are absolutely right. And Nate truly does care about EVERY customer. I can tell you right now that you wont find customer service like this anywhere in this industry...period!! Thank you for all the support Kanakafarian. You are a good dude bro! :bigok:
jtterrible
Active member
PES is damn close.. I haven't dealt with NTBM or Mr Supps yet.. so I can't really say much on that... perhaps I will find out whenever I finally get around to buying some bridge and n2 guard.. oh well.. this is pretty awesome though.. idk the regular price of hcgenerate..
StackedCop
Well-known member
I have nothing against Nate or NTBM. However, I have witnessed Nate tell AM members that he does not need their business. I call it how I see it... Regardless of that I'm still a huge fan of need2slin
Steelwolf
Active member
Nate is personally a very stand up guy. He is seriously there for his customers when they need help or need to talk. I have personally come to see him as one of the more stand up business men out there, and that is a very hard thing to find these days. To find someone who genuinely cares out the customers as much as he does is very rare.
MakaveliThaDon
Well-known member
Good to see this was taken care of.
I signed up a LOOONG time ago here, as you can see by my join date, and when I came back, things were a bit different with so many reps on the forums, something that didn't exist back when I signed up, and some of them go a bit over the top.
BUUUUT, I will say this, the NTBM reps all seem to be really cool dudes, every single one of them I have talked to, and that is most of them, have all been stand up dudes, and were just bro's to me and not just a company rep. This is coming from someone who ISN'T an ntbm rep, I have nothing but good things to say about them and their products.
I signed up a LOOONG time ago here, as you can see by my join date, and when I came back, things were a bit different with so many reps on the forums, something that didn't exist back when I signed up, and some of them go a bit over the top.
BUUUUT, I will say this, the NTBM reps all seem to be really cool dudes, every single one of them I have talked to, and that is most of them, have all been stand up dudes, and were just bro's to me and not just a company rep. This is coming from someone who ISN'T an ntbm rep, I have nothing but good things to say about them and their products.
RickRock13
Well-known member
Appreciate all the support and kind word bro. Rep or not, I think we are all bros in a sense and we are all here for a common purpose. To try and better ourselves by learning from others as well as helping out anyone we can to become better and better to reach our goals. :cheers:
Steelwolf
Active member
chocolatemilk
Well-known member
Thanks a lot bro :kiss:
BarbellBeast
Well-known member
needtogetmuscle
Banned
I have nothing against Nate or NTBM. However, I have witnessed Nate tell AM members that he does not need their business. I call it how I see it... Regardless of that I'm still a huge fan of need2slin
I think you took that comment out of context or the wrong way my friend.
I know the exact conversation I was having when I said this at the time I said it. It was in a thread with some dude whom I was talking about trib with or something along this line. Maybe it was another topic.
However he had presented his side of a argument and then I presented mine. To that his reply was that I was a prick or something along that line and that that is why he would never buy my products.
My reply was that of "not caring about the money" or sales. It was me explaining to him that I am not going to let him be right simple in the hopes I would get a sale out of it. Or that my actions be it good or bat have anything to do with making money from him or another.
I said in the post that I have the privilege of being able to be who the hell I want to be when I want to be and say what I want when I want to say it. .
What I meant by all of that is that "I am real!!!!" And making a sale or not making a sale is not ever going to change that. So think about it my friend. Do you want some one who's actions and words are are fake? Do you want genuine respect and caring or do you want fake ?
We were having a debate. I think its retarded that me making a sale or not off some one even coming into the equation during a debate is absurd. It has nothing to do with the facts or discussion but because I own a store he had to bring weather or not a make a sale into the topic????
I saw you post in the thread after bro. I really do think it was taken the wrong way my friend. I hope I have helped better explain my stance. I mean go back and read the discussion and ask your self " what the heck do my sales have to do with the conversation at all?" They don't lol.
Just because I own a few supplement stores should not mean every conversation I have all over the net has to be about my sales. About a sale at all . Every debate I have, every conversation I have, every topic I discus with people every word I said Is not about sales and its never going to be . Its be saying exactly what I want to say. Me making a point when debating a topic, me being a nive guy when I can, me helping some one "because I want to" , me doing what ever because its me and no other reason.
I guess I did get a little heated that during a debate about trib,clomid, and nolva this dude has to bust out with some crap about my sales which hasn't got a phucking thing to do with the conversation. Ya I could have been nicer with my reply I will admit that lol..
StackedCop
Well-known member
Nate, I did try to look for the conversation after I made the post, but couldn't find it. At the time all I remember thinking was WTF!!! Lol it did get a little out of hand on both sides and that's why I sent Dwight a message before it got ugly. No worries from me. Sorry for seeming like i was calling you out. Like I said in the PM it's not my style.
needtogetmuscle
Banned
Its all good bro, I just wanted to clear it up that's all. I found the thread easy because I got a hundred Karma msg in my profile leading to it so it was a easy find. Plus I got a pretty good memory :drillsergeant: