Gaining muscles while losing fat. HGP tries the impossible, watch me fail!

[Hyde]

I generally experience a more positive mood on ephedrine and DMAA/DMHA, thankfully - up to and including euphoria even at times.

 

[hairygrandpa]

Gym

Did what everyone suggested for my back workouts.
Like incline bench DB rows, one armed pull downs -always trying to get a mind -lat muscle connection.

On my way to the gym I fell down some concrete stairs, hitting my right knee hard. I'm now limping and have to skip legs for a few days.
Luckily nothing seems broken.

 

[ValiantThor08]

Gym

Did what everyone suggested for my back workouts.
Like incline bench DB rows, one armed pull downs -always trying to get a mind -lat muscle connection.

On my way to the gym I fell down some concrete stairs, hitting my right knee hard. I'm now limping and have to skip legs for a few days.
Luckily nothing seems broken.

Ouch. Be careful.

 

[hairygrandpa]

Ouch. Be careful.

Well, its a bit late.
Stairwell were dark like inside a monkeys butt, so I missed a stair and did some spectacular pirouettes. Took me 3 minutes to pull myself together, trying to get up. I was sure I broke at least a leg.

 

[ValiantThor08]

Well, its a bit late.
Stairwell were dark like inside a monkeys butt, so I missed a stair and did some spectacular pirouettes. Took me 3 minutes to pull myself together, trying to get up. I was sure I broke at least a leg.

Glad you didnt. That would be a setback.

 

[Hyde]

Sorry to hear about the fall, that’s always a terrifying moment when you think you might really be injured. Get some ice on it for a bit to get the inflammation out sooner. Glad it was only a scare.

 

[jtmass]

Gym

Did what everyone suggested for my back workouts.
Like incline bench DB rows, one armed pull downs -always trying to get a mind -lat muscle connection.

On my way to the gym I fell down some concrete stairs, hitting my right knee hard. I'm now limping and have to skip legs for a few days.
Luckily nothing seems broken.

You will be fine.. Just put some ice on it. May have some inflammation though..

 

[Wobmarvel]

Fate obviously decided your making too much progress.

 

[Rocket3015]

You are not suppose to drink before the gym !!

 

[jtmass]

You are not suppose to drink before the gym !!

That was his intra workout drink.

 

[BennyMagoo79]

Jeez mate be careful!

 

[Rocket3015]

That was his intra workout drink.

Understood !

 

[DemntedCowboy]

You are not suppose to drink before the gym !!

Yes, this according to Arnold, Cherry Juice, a Banana, Whey Protein, and Schnapps straight from Austria is the best Post Workout. Lol

 

[EMPIREMIND]

I just started training calves again, twice a week, since the bicep surgery the last 2 months. They’ve definitely beefed up a little. Last 2 weeks been doing the Doggcrapp 15 sec stretch per rep for one set and it’s just awful. Not sure if it will pay out yet though, but it’s intense.

That worked pretty well for me the short time I did it. Same with supersetting the tibialis anterior and calves like John Meadows suggests.

Both of these methods are great for claves. Also walking in a high incline treadmill for cardio and staying on your toes, another method from Dante.

 

[EMPIREMIND]

Couple tips for back, on your pulling movements, point your pointer finger like a gun. This removes it from your grip and you will find it loads more of the lat and takes away from your biceps. Can do this for pull ups, downs, Rows etc

Rack dead’s- if you can do them try to keep your lats flexed before starting and throughout the movement. Also dead stop on every rep. This will reduce the load and help your get more out of each rep.

For pull overs look up John meadows banded Db pull overs on your tube. These are great movements.

When you do rows always focus on driving back with your elbows, think of your hands as hooks.

For pull ups keep your ribcage elevated throughout the movement. This will position your back better to allow your to squeeze your back. Same as with rows, drive your elbows down and try to keep those pointer fingers pointed up like a gun. You should feel this in your lats before anything else.

 

[Chados]

Gym

Did what everyone suggested for my back workouts.
Like incline bench DB rows, one armed pull downs -always trying to get a mind -lat muscle connection.

On my way to the gym I fell down some concrete stairs, hitting my right knee hard. I'm now limping and have to skip legs for a few days.
Luckily nothing seems broken.

The knee is a mother flower, it shuts down the body when you hit it hard enough, hope you'll get better soon. I got my trest today, let's pray we don't lactate.

 

[MrKleen73]

Hate hearing about the fall but happy to hear you got up of your own volition. At least other than some bumps and bruises you seem uninjured.

 

[hairygrandpa]

Couple tips for back, on your pulling movements, point your pointer finger like a gun. This removes it from your grip and you will find it loads more of the lat and takes away from your biceps. Can do this for pull ups, downs, Rows etc

Rack dead’s- if you can do them try to keep your lats flexed before starting and throughout the movement. Also dead stop on every rep. This will reduce the load and help your get more out of each rep.

For pull overs look up John meadows banded Db pull overs on your tube. These are great movements.

When you do rows always focus on driving back with your elbows, think of your hands as hooks.

For pull ups keep your ribcage elevated throughout the movement. This will position your back better to allow your to squeeze your back. Same as with rows, drive your elbows down and try to keep those pointer fingers pointed up like a gun. You should feel this in your lats before anything else.

Awesome tips, will "show the finger" during pulls!

 

[hairygrandpa]

Hate hearing about the fall but happy to hear you got up of your own volition. At least other than some bumps and bruises you seem uninjured.

Now thinking of what could have gone wrong... I took the slin shot before leaving, that could have me in a coma if I were unconscious. Had my sugary shake with me -but nobody would have guessed I need it.

 

[Hyde]

Couple tips for back, on your pulling movements, point your pointer finger like a gun. This removes it from your grip and you will find it loads more of the lat and takes away from your biceps. Can do this for pull ups, downs, Rows etc

Rack dead’s- if you can do them try to keep your lats flexed before starting and throughout the movement. Also dead stop on every rep. This will reduce the load and help your get more out of each rep.

For pull overs look up John meadows banded Db pull overs on your tube. These are great movements.

When you do rows always focus on driving back with your elbows, think of your hands as hooks.

For pull ups keep your ribcage elevated throughout the movement. This will position your back better to allow your to squeeze your back. Same as with rows, drive your elbows down and try to keep those pointer fingers pointed up like a gun. You should feel this in your lats before anything else.

These are good cues, & have found all of them to be effective personally!

Now thinking of what could have gone wrong... I took the slin shot before leaving, that could have me in a coma if I were unconscious. Had my sugary shake with me -but nobody would have guessed I need it.

Well I mean you could have gotten hit by a bus. Don’t overthink it. But maybe you could start consuming carbs right after your shot, like an apple? And just remove the corresponding 18g of carbs from your shake to maintain same total cals/carbs.

 

[ValiantThor08]

Now thinking of what could have gone wrong... I took the slin shot before leaving, that could have me in a coma if I were unconscious. Had my sugary shake with me -but nobody would have guessed I need it.

You still doing keto?

 

[hairygrandpa]

You still doing keto?

Not really. I'm trying to find the ideal daily carb load to look optimal (best fullness -no over-spill). I'm eating in a deficit of about 400-700kcal. During the day only meat. Intra workout up to 70gr carbs (plain sugar) with 6 iu slin. After workout 50-80gr carbs (rice) + meat.
On off days no carbs. Looks promising so far. I upped protein to 250-300gr/d and got lower on fat since getting about 150gr carbs a day. It seems I'm growing on it while getting leaner, time will tell.

No IF anymore to get all the meat in.

 

[ValiantThor08]

Not really. I'm trying to find the ideal daily carb load to look optimal (best fullness -no over-spill). I'm eating in a deficit of about 400-700kcal. During the day only meat. Intra workout up to 70gr carbs (plain sugar) with 6 iu slin. After workout 50-80gr carbs (rice) + meat.
On off days no carbs. Looks promising so far. I upped protein to 250-300gr/d and got lower on fat since getting about 150gr carbs a day. It seems I'm growing on it while getting leaner, time will tell.

No IF anymore to get all the meat in.

Well, between meals you should be in ketosis because that seems like the right amount of carbs to fill the muscle, and not the liver.

 

[hairygrandpa]

I admit, I'm getting a bit obsessed with food. Seeing it more like a supplement I have to review. Figured that my body doesn't know where to put surplus carbs, trying to figure out how much carbs exactly I can eat -and when, before bloating.
Also trying to figure out if the pre workout slin causes hypertrophy over time -or only cosmetic fullness.

 

[ValiantThor08]

I admit, I'm getting a bit obsessed with food. Seeing it more like a supplement I have to review. Figured that my body doesn't know where to put surplus carbs, trying to figure out how much carbs exactly I can eat -and when, before bloating.
Also trying to figure out if the pre workout slin causes hypertrophy over time -or only cosmetic fullness.

Awesome, I have been looking at food as a tool as well. Micro and macro nutrients as a tool. Meal timing and frequency as a tool.

 

[MrKleen73]

I admit, I'm getting a bit obsessed with food. Seeing it more like a supplement I have to review. Figured that my body doesn't know where to put surplus carbs, trying to figure out how much carbs exactly I can eat -and when, before bloating.
Also trying to figure out if the pre workout slin causes hypertrophy over time -or only cosmetic fullness.

This is a good thing but also keep in mind that can change with the tiniest of environmental factors. Oh no, slin is most definitely going to make you grow more than you would without it. How much if you are't running a cycle is a different equation all together.

 

[hairygrandpa]

Did EMPIREMIND 's "gun-finger pulling" on 2 different back exercises (close grip lat pull down/close grip seated row). Had to lower the load to half to pull that off decently. Did a dead stop with every rep.
Not sure if it did something, maybe I gonna feel it tomorrow.

Incorporated light stiff deadlifts again with 135lbs x50 /40/40, will work weight up over time.

I have to travel to a remote town to sell some property, will be off from tomorrow until Friday.

 

[Wobmarvel]

Did EMPIREMIND 's "gun-finger pulling" on 2 different back exercises (close grip lat pull down/close grip seated row). Had to lower the load to half to pull that off decently. Did a dead stop with every rep.
Not sure if it did something, maybe I gonna feel it tomorrow.

Incorporated light stiff deadlifts again with 135lbs x50 /40/40, will work weight up over time.

I have to travel to a remote town to sell some property, will be off from tomorrow until Friday.

Nice, don't take DMAA ECA combo whilst your there... Or maybe do depending on how aggressive you want negotiations to be.

 

[EMPIREMIND]

I admit, I'm getting a bit obsessed with food. Seeing it more like a supplement I have to review. Figured that my body doesn't know where to put surplus carbs, trying to figure out how much carbs exactly I can eat -and when, before bloating.
Also trying to figure out if the pre workout slin causes hypertrophy over time -or only cosmetic fullness.

Sorry if I missed it but what type of nutrition are you doing during your workout to go with the slin? How much and why type of slin are you using?

 

[hairygrandpa]

Sorry if I missed it but what type of nutrition are you doing during your workout to go with the slin? How much and why type of slin are you using?

Intra workout hyper hydration protocol:
Glycerol,plain sugar (70gr if using 6 IU slin),salt and anything available to shuttle into muscles (creatine, leucine, citrulline, whey....anything at hand)
6 IU Insuman Rapid 20 min before workout.

 

[hairygrandpa]

The new layout has me struggling.... Maybe my advanced age is rebelling against changes...

 

[Wobmarvel]

The new layout has me struggling.... Maybe my advanced age is rebelling against changes...

What do you mean?

 

[hairygrandpa]

I'm confused, trying to find my "rhythm" with all the changes.

 

[jtmass]

I'm confused, trying to find my "rhythm" with all the changes.

Make a list of what changed you incorporated (if it's a lot) and see what can be taken out and introduced gradually..

 

[SFreed]

The new layout has me struggling.... Maybe my advanced age is rebelling against changes...

No "Like" button, but I agree with this post

 

[Chados]

Intra workout hyper hydration protocol:
Glycerol,plain sugar (70gr if using 6 IU slin),salt and anything available to shuttle into muscles (creatine, leucine, citrulline, whey....anything at hand)
6 IU Insuman Rapid 20 min before workout.

How you like the slin?

Hey you and me are the same now, I wonder if my message to admin to rep me made him feel bad and make us all equal. It's a beautiful thing, politicians should use the same strategy and racism would be non existent, just label all colors as purple

 

[Admin]

Ugh. Will put it on the list.

I'll clean the thread up.

 

[ValiantThor08]

Ugh. Will put it on the list.

I'll clean the thread up.

Thanks!

 

[EMPIREMIND]

Intra workout hyper hydration protocol:
Glycerol,plain sugar (70gr if using 6 IU slin),salt and anything available to shuttle into muscles (creatine, leucine, citrulline, whey....anything at hand)
6 IU Insuman Rapid 20 min before workout.

Got ya. You should be getting a sick pump and much better muscle recovery from that... it’s similar to some protocols I’ve seen before. Have you ever read @mikearnold ‘s protocol?

 

[hairygrandpa]

Yes, guided myself by his protocols. Slin makes a huge difference.

 

[Hyde]

HGP, I have been LOVING Beast Fitness Radio podcast since I discovered it recently. Mike Arnold has been doing frequent Q&A episodes on there with the host, Alex. It’s a wealth of knowledge and everything is delivered in a practical but intelligent mindset. I.E. this is how to safely use *the D word*, why you should be taking Curcumin, nutrition chat, what peptides excel for what purpose, etc.

 

[Wobmarvel]

HGP, I have been LOVING Beast Fitness Radio podcast since I discovered it recently. Mike Arnold has been doing frequent Q&A episodes on there with the host, Alex. It’s a wealth of knowledge and everything is delivered in a practical but intelligent mindset. I.E. this is how to safely use DNP, why you should be taking Curcumin, nutrition chat, what peptides excel for what purpose, etc.

Your not supposed to mention the D word... I think that's an instant ban!!

 

[Hyde]

Your not supposed to mention the D word... I think that's an instant ban!!

Really? I’ll edit my post unless you’re just playing...but it was successfully used in humans to reduce breast cancer so I think it at least warrants deeper exploration of the medical literature. Also has some great effects on blood glucose and other health markers when used responsibly. Like insulin, or aspirin. Overdose and you’re dead, moderation and you improve health.

 

[hairygrandpa]

Can't find my subscribed channels -nor my own started old logs... damn... and those "like smileys" are giving me erectile dysfunction.
Clicking on all the options , trying to figure it out and memorize it. I'm too old for this sh1t.

 

[Wobmarvel]

Really? I’ll edit my post unless you’re just playing...but it was successfully used in humans to reduce breast cancer so I think it at least warrants deeper exploration of the medical literature. Also has some great effects on blood glucose and other health markers when used responsibly. Like insulin, or aspirin. Overdose and you’re dead, moderation and you improve health.

When everything reset recently I read through the terms and conditions and I'm sure it said any mention of it would result in instant ban but I can't find it now so maybe I dreamt it.

If a swat team hasn't crashed through your roof yet to take you out I recon your safe

 

[hairygrandpa]

HGP, I have been LOVING Beast Fitness Radio podcast since I discovered it recently. Mike Arnold has been doing frequent Q&A episodes on there with the host, Alex. It’s a wealth of knowledge and everything is delivered in a practical but intelligent mindset. I.E. this is how to safely use *the D word*, why you should be taking Curcumin, nutrition chat, what peptides excel for what purpose, etc.

Thank you, now listening while flexing and kissing my monstrous biceps:

https://beastfitnessradio.libsyn.com/

 

[PoSiTiVeFLoW]

For those that need more of a house and trance flow, focus - Above and Beyond Group Therapy (weekly UK DJ podcast) - also something for when HGP hits the raves next!

Episode 325 here.

 

[BennyMagoo79]

For those that need more of a house and trance flow, focus - Above and Beyond Group Therapy (weekly UK DJ podcast) - also something for when HGP hits the raves next!

Episode 325 here.

I'm going to give this a go next time I'm lifting. Thanks.

 

[jtmass]

I have started to like Psy trance again.. Gets me fukn riled up.

 

[hairygrandpa]

My disdain for @Admin subsided, getting slowly used to the new features. Overall look is improved, shiny new forum -but with the same lame and weak members.

Since I'm using slin again, I also incorporated MK-677. Now I'm "full in". Weight is going up -but no change to my new "semi-leanness".

I struggle with MK-677. At only 10 mg at night it makes me wake up every hour, like a clockwork. One hour sleep then waking up...10 minutes until sleeping again. One hour later- waking up...and so on. All in conjunction with silly dreams.