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Boladrol(Incredible Bulk Expected)The Log

wearedbleedblue said:
Its a log, rip him on PMs if you really feel the need. I don't believe he was ever 160 nor that he had the strength numbers that he posted. I'm here to see if there are any side effects, as they will be magnified in someone as small as him.

mich29, can you please post more about how you're feeling, energy, relative strength levels (when it gets to at least a week in or so), joints, headaches, etc? If you take detailed notes about actually running it and forget about your weight poundages, it would really redeem the log IMO. Good luck with the compound, I truly hope you don't mess up your body with it.
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I agree at this point it seems posting about anything else would be a waste of time as it seems this log is a huge waste of time according to quite a few here.so I will report on sides.I am guessing by friday effects will be had that I can report of.


natandrb said:
Ahh, adding chlorine to the genetic pool :twak:

Very interested to see the sides you'll get as any that might be felt will probably be magnified. Did you decide to go 2mg or 4mg? Or maybe even at your size 1-1.5mg, just to be safe. Best of luck to you!
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I'm going to keep the dose at 2ml unless I find theres a reason to go higher.I respect Ibe and the research I have done to not jump into this with high dosing.
 
It's not a waste of time. Do your log, post your experience/results with it, and we will digest it how we will.
 
laserbluess said:
i really cant believe more of you guys aren't ripping this guy. no offense OP, but dude, you are 126lbs.... WTF!!! anyone in there right mind would tell you to gain naturally first. even if you were a super ripped 126 im sure everyone would tell you to eat til you nearly puke in order to gain more weight.

im sitting at 195 - 196 lbs body weight and have no desire to run a compound this strong. i cant imagine that being nearly 70lbs lighter than me will do you well when it comes to keeping gains. btw, i didn't use a PH til i was 189 - 190 lbs naturally and lifting for 5 years solid.

thank you unreal and chocmilk for saying something. its ridiculous that no one is opposing this guy using this strong of a compound.
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What baffles me is that I thought there was a thread to post your training history and THAT is what determined if xy or z was chosen as a tester? Apparently, someone never reviewed the applications. That hurts me more than this guy running this drug...
 
laserbluess said:
thank you unreal and chocmilk for saying something. its ridiculous that no one is opposing this guy using this strong of a compound.
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Did you not read in between the words which I posted?

These battles have gotten old and over rated. This happens on every site that I am on, about 19 sites. There are more than 1,000 sites out there and this same shyt happens on all of them.

A tester thread where someone posts training history, pics (with some type of PROOF in the pic that it is you, sign saying something relevant, etc) or a fking video uploaded even, would give the person more credibility and the company much more credibility.

The whole "post training history and just raise your hand" and we'll give you a bottle of some drug should be thrown out like a fat bytch running to 1st base.

Not shooting directly at IBe because many companies are guilty.
 
You guys are so frickin rude...

One person says something, then another, then another, then another.... Criticism is only constructive when its fresh, otherwise your just sounding like sheep running a broken record.

Got complaints? Take em up with ibe in a dedicated thread, a pm or just keep it to yourself. If you have more comments directly for the OP he also has a pm box....

Otherwise the log has commenced already, he's set on running and and keeping a detailed log and all you guys are doing is pushing him further and further from sharing as much info as possible.... Lets get something out of this, palease...

I will say this is not optimal BUT its something and it will just have to be added to the collective review from all testers, which all in all shows promise now....

Please lets chill now guys so we can get SOMETHING out of this...
 
poopypants said:
You guys are so frickin rude...

One person says something, then another, then another, then another.... Criticism is only constructive when its fresh, otherwise your just sounding like sheep running a broken record.

Got complaints? Take em up with ibe in a dedicated thread, a pm or just keep it to yourself. If you have more comments directly for the OP he also has a pm box....

Otherwise the log has commenced already, he's set on running and and keeping a detailed log and all you guys are doing is pushing him further and further from sharing as much info as possible.... Lets get something out of this, palease...

I will say this is not optimal BUT its something and it will just have to be added to the collective review from all testers, which all in all shows promise now....

Please lets chill now guys so we can get SOMETHING out of this...
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Agreed!:cheers:
 
hardknock said:
What baffles me is that I thought there was a thread to post your training history and THAT is what determined if xy or z was chosen as a tester? Apparently, someone never reviewed the applications. That hurts me more than this guy running this drug...
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No, there was a single post I think from LMR that after someone asked how people could be testers, they said "anyone who sends a pm". so they took the first x number of people who sent a pm.

And not particularly being defensive here as I think he could get just as far steroidless as with steroids for a good bit of time, but he's old enough to make his own decisions. For me its the worst when its someone between 18-23 and 6'0 and 140 who is a "hardgainer" (ie, actually eats like a girl) and wants to hop on. By 25 at least you start to have a glimmer of responsibility, and be looking a bit further forwards in your life than just the next week.
 
mich29, good luck with this, I agree with all the threads stating that this is probably not the best thing for you to run. Well you have started so good luck and make sure to be carefull, in saying that it comes to mind if suppliers were more carefull this thread wouldn't have existed.

Anyway good luck and remember to eat big once youre done as well, would be interesting to see the final review.
 
Learn Teach Lead is what the AM banner states.

Judgement and Disrespect is not what this game is about.

There are many more helpful and tactful ways to voice sincere concern for Mich then hating and insulting.

I dont agree at all with the cycle, but............


Like Cocoa stated, godspeed Mich!!!

Take your support supps, pct hard and dont forget to eat huge and lift big.
 
More food for thought info

(post credit goes to stickman3 )
Diol and dione prohormones don't convert to the target compound at high rates (10-20% max, which is probably plenty with PHs to mibolerone and bolasterone due to their potency). They probably low dosed the diol version they are marketing to keep from blowing up the liver transplant list. Or they want you to buy many bottles and dose it well beyond a few mg's a day. Or the diol PH has intrinsic anabolic activity prior to conversion as well (as with M1,4ADD, Alpha One/M1A, etc).

EDIT: The effective dosing for bolasterone is 1-5mg/day, so if this diol PH converts at say 20%, then 2mg of IBE's product would yield .4mg. Take 2mg 3x daily, and that would be fairly potent for a PH (1.2mg of bolasterone/day). Of course, people will take more, and then they will be hitting well within the dosing bracket, liver be damned.
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I've been pondering this since I saw the IBE thread.My dosing will change starting later on today to 2 doses a day at 2ml and will up the dosing to 5ml or 10ml twice a day depending on sides or etc that become present starting Monday.
 
Are you sh!tting me?

Don't do any such fing thing man, that's not the guidelines for the test we are running....

The bottle specifically says one to two droppers, that means 2-4mg ed n besides your one bottle will be gone in 3 days at that rate.... (10ml x 3 days equals 30ml, that'd the whole bottle) do you not know math or units of measurement or even your own phone number?

DO you understand the responsibility if being a beta tester and following along what's suggested to give everyone an accurate idea of what this can do at a responsible dose....

Holy crap man no wonder you think your healthier at 127 pounds and are so easily swayed to do what someone else tells you regardless of good sense and obvious direction from the manufacturer to do other wise

Wish I would have never spoke up for you.....

Everyone flame on and ibe give this guys address to your local loan shark to collect his "log debt", thread really pisses me off and soooooo hope I read wrong or your being sarcastic...




N btw in all your quote from above all you pay attention to obviously is the exact conversion rate of typical ph's then think you can apply it to bolasterone and disregard the fact he also says its not true for every compound and many ph's have their own intrinsic effect....

THIS MEANS THE STEROID IS ACTIVE BEFORE CONVERTING TO THE TARGET STEROID AND YOU SHOULD DEFINITELY DOSE ACCORDING TO THE SUGGESTED DOSE SINCE THERE'S NO TELLING HOW STRONG IT WILL BE....

Im so done with this log.... USUBSCRIBED.
 
Dude why don't you seriously just give up the bottle and send it to someone dedicated to lifting and will know how to dose this correctly...
 
mich29 said:
More food for thought info

(post credit goes to stickman3 )

I've been pondering this since I saw the IBE thread.My dosing will change starting later on today to 2 doses a day at 2ml and will up the dosing to 5ml or 10ml twice a day depending on sides or etc that become present starting Monday.
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ARE YOU F*CKING NUTS!?!?!
 
poopypants said:
THIS MEANS THE STEROID IS ACTIVE BEFORE CONVERTING TO THE TARGET STEROID AND YOU SHOULD DEFINITELY DOSE ACCORDING TO THE SUGGESTED DOSE SINCE THERE'S NO TELLING HOW STRONG IT WILL BE....
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chocolatemilk said:
ARE YOU F*CKING NUTS!?!?!
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Mich, seriously wtf are you thinking? Not trying to be rude or anything here but seriously.. Stick to the dosing protocol you were given if not less - don't do more for christ sake! Don't turn this into a suicide run - please.

//CC
 
Thats an understatement

This idiot is what all the nay sayers were talking about regarding the danger of releasing such a compound....

Really trying to apply something like this to a compound that had been out and tested for a long time like m14ad isn't that out of the question but being a beta test on a BRAND NEW UNKNOWN COMPOUND you follow the strict dosing guideline given you and if anything you under dose it to asses the effects both positive and negative and ramp up and back down as the effects to sides ratio begins to tip unfavorably to the sides...

This is cycling 101 for a new compound and someone new to steroids AND SOMEONE 126LBS AND ALMOST HALF THE WEIGHT OF ALL OTHER TESTERS .....

OMFG this is retarded and I apologize to all members on here for thinking this lil ignoramus could even provide us with a single shred of reliable info here.

I so think IBE screwed the pooch on this one....

Love the compound idea, the excitement to get it in the hands of the testers, but come on.... some sliver of responsibility and research should have gone into picking testers for such a compound....its not that tough...

Goo just can't wait til it kicks in for john and for myself, ryan and big beef to get on this so we actually get the feedback in and something where everyone can start off of with such a promising compound.
 
I feel like my intial thoughts r Justified now. Hmm I wonder if that show is ever coming back.....

Oh ya Mich u r a facking nut. Dont be a dead nut.
 
Can someone point me to any member on this board that steroids are necessry for? Poops, you yourself are coming off what a year of not working out and bad nutrition, and are going from one experimental steroid to another experimentall steroid. Is that wise? Overall the choice to use any of todays designers by just about anyone isn't very wise.

I don't think he should be taking this, but like i said, he's old enough to actually make his own mind up. Even on the crazy dosing scheme, there is only 30ml in the bottle, so if he does ramp up, hes not going to be at higher doses for any significant length of time. but he better be taking 20-40mg of nolva a day alongside it :)
 
Mich, PLEASE listen to these guys. It might seem mean, but everyone does really have your best interest in mind.

Don't overdose on this based on a possible theory that doesn't always hold true. Because that's what it would be, and overdose on an experimental substance. Nobody knows for sure what its gonna do at 2-4mg per day, and at 10mg per day? The sides WILL increase exponentially, I promise you.
Your insurance most likely wouldn't cover what would happen to you (lipids suddenly skyrocketing into unheard of levels, bp at lethal levels) because if you tell them what you took, they may say its something you intentionally did to yourself.
Low dose it at most, and please, please keep an eye on any sides you have and don't be afraid to stop mid-cycle if it becomes too much.

Your health is your number one priority
 
but guyyyssss, it's just a couple mg at most! It's not very liver toxic at all!

I say grab 20 bottles for a nice 30 day cycle.
 
EasyEJL said:
Can someone point me to any member on this board that steroids are necessry for? Poops, you yourself are coming off what a year of not working out and bad nutrition, and are going from one experimental steroid to another experimentall steroid. Is that wise? Overall the choice to use any of todays designers by just about anyone isn't very wise.

I don't think he should be taking this, but like i said, he's old enough to actually make his own mind up. Even on the crazy dosing scheme, there is only 30ml in the bottle, so if he does ramp up, hes not going to be at higher doses for any significant length of time. but he better be taking 20-40mg of nolva a day alongside it :)
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I agree about having the freedom as an adult to do what he pleases regarding using or not but what got me its when he starts talking about using 2-5 times the recommended dose in a strictly outlined beta test. This will most certainly skew results regardless of any other personal factors and isn't right, that pisses me off....

Also there is no comparing me to this kid, I'm genetically predisposed to be more fit and it takes little work for me to get where I once was, wich has been respectively much further then mich has ever been. I had to sit on my ass doing nothing and work to get fat.

I've also been lifting for over a month now and made sure that my body was reconditioned and capable of supporting new growth and extreme change again. I regularly take support supps as a staple since with even "natty" supps out these days there's no telling what can happen. Besides that my work ethic has been proven time and time again and my exercise/diet/supplementation knowledge and ability to apply it is matured many times over what his is.

No way in hell would I attempt to overdose a beta project.... This is what I'm talking about too. I have run both unsponsored and sponsored logs. IBE obviously made no attempt to look into any of these guys background to see what kind of loggers these guys are... Its upsetting to day the least and in defense of mich its no fault of his own, but PALEASE, who in the heck can justify that kind of aggressive dosing in a beta test and how can you defend him for what in all reality is a breach of board rules?

I like you, Chris. On a personal level. Your a great guy with a kind heart. I just don't see how you can support of this kind of action after this many instances showing he's not capable of responsibly running this regardless of age. He needs to step down as a tester imo, and sadly his tester slot cannot be filled, his bottle can no longer reserve any loose c.o.c. that it may of had and who knows if the dropper or anything else has been in his mouth ect. and no one else can verify what's in the bottle any longer....

Honestly it would be a miracle to see if this product is able to be done any justice now in his neck of the woods but I'm not staying around to find out.
 
LMAO I cant BELIEVE THIS!!!!!

I guess we really arent in a beta log folks!!!!

In fact we are all a part of lil Mich29's research in the "meathead mentality project"....

psshhhh this is the pm I just got and my response, Im not buying it and wont stand being patronized for something I didnt do.... Im the last to criticize someone on their stature, knowledge or quest for answers.... Im sure many have seen me post in DEFENSE of both Mich and Schwell this week, so this just baffles me....

What I CANNOT stand is inherent disregard for this test thats being displayed, being fingered as a bigot (while defending him on the exact basis why I am one), and someone straight lying to my face or excusing their ignorance with outlandish claims and backtracking... I dont play that.

heres the pm.... and my response....

PM Titled RE: Your Post
poopypants said:
mich29 said:
sorry if my post created an upset while I'm logging this product I'm also conducting research on how those not within the bb normal range of weight are treated.I made that last post to see if and who would jump ship and out right bash and of course bring up my weight and etc.Ibe set no rules and no guidelines for testers and simply set bottles out at random this alone should make testers question if the stuff they sent is even what it says it is because putting this in the wrong hands say a person with no or little ph/ds experience would doom the product even before lanuch.As far as knowledge please don't assume because of my current weight or etc I know nothing I can hang with the best of them when it comes to knowledge in this area I wouldn't have asked to run this without knowing the risk and whats needed in order to ensure my health can be maintained after using this product.I'm sorry if you feel my log is a waste because of this that or etc hopefully we can all be adults and at least use this log in order to see what sides may or may not appear.

"I agree about having the freedom as an adult to do what he pleases regarding using or not but what got me its when he starts talking about using 2-5 times the recommended dose in a strictly outlined beta test. This will most certainly skew results regardless of any other personal factors and isn't right, that pisses me off....

Also there is no comparing me to this kid, I'm genetically predisposed to be more fit and it takes little work for me to get where I once was, wich has been respectively much further then mich has ever been. I had to sit on my ass doing nothing and work to get fat.

I've also been lifting for over a month now and made sure that my body was reconditioned and capable of supporting new growth and extreme change again. I regularly take support supps as a staple since with even "natty" supps out these days there's no telling what can happen. Besides that my work ethic has been proven time and time again and my exercise/diet/supplementation knowledge and ability to apply it is matured many times over what his is.

No way in hell would I attempt to overdose a beta project.... This is what I'm talking about too. I have run both unsponsored and sponsored logs. IBE obviously made no attempt to look into any of these guys background to see what kind of loggers these guys are... Its upsetting to day the least and in defense of mich its no fault of his own, but PALEASE, who in the heck can justify that kind of aggressive dosing in a beta test and how can you defend him for what in all reality is a breach of board rules?

I like you, Chris. On a personal level. Your a great guy with a kind heart. I just don't see how you can support of this kind of action after this many instances showing he's not capable of responsibly running this regardless of age. He needs to step down as a tester imo, and sadly his tester slot cannot be filled, his bottle can no longer reserve any loose c.o.c. that it may of had and who knows if the dropper or anything else has been in his mouth ect. and no one else can verify what's in the bottle any longer....

Honestly it would be a miracle to see if this product is able to be done any justice now in his neck of the woods but I'm not staying around to find out."
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Just so you know I stood up for you when others were dogging you on weight.... your not just outside normal weight for bb'ers either btw, your VERY light for even your hieght.

All that aside, I jumped on you for what is said in my very first post of explination to easy

When you start talking about upping your dose, which you did, there is no denying that. Then you start to piss me off for screwing with results FOR EVERYONE not to mention immediately setting a precedence that its "OK" to run such an oral, or any oral at that matter, at 5 times the rec dose.... THATS JUST NOT OK.

This is a sponsored log, not some place to hold your supposed research project. IMO thats a sad excuse, as was your post in your thread after mine, for you thinking you were going to do something smart just cause you read some percentages for conversion of some other PH's somewhere.

AND YES IBE DID SET RULES!!!!

every bottle sent out has the beta testers required dose on that, when you break that guideline your are fouling up the beta test and screwing with money spent that is not your own... being a beta tester on promising compounds is win, win. You get to be first to run an awesome product that will give you certain results, they get a public display of what it can do and advertisement. They know EXACTLY what they gave you and what it should do btw, its called a BETA test for a reason, there has already been an ALPHA test with consenting individuals given different doses and asked to report on their results, they are the willing Guinea pigs, not us. They use the information gathered there to set up the BETA test and show off their product for all.

I happen to know a few of the ALPHA testers personally, this compound is everything IBE said it was... Now its just time for them to show folks that. You are screwing with that. Not to mention try reading the board rules about tester logs and the requirements therein...

Once again dont try to make this about your weight.... real cute n all but I actually stood up for you when others wouldnt. You crossed a certain line I dont agree with, alterior motivated "research" or not(which is complete BULL$HIT), and were taking it upon yourself to overdose a strictly layed out dosing regiment set forth by IBE, not to mention both IBE posted the dose in the original post of the testing log AND the second in command at IBE came in and said how much to dose and when to Trauma1.

I DONT think you have the knowledge "to hang" btw, all you have shown thus far is your ability to work the google on the internet machine, not impressive by any standard.

So try to make this about IBE not setting "guidelines". Try to make this about your weight. Try to make this about your fathomed "research project". All the while its apparent to me that your just over eager for attention and ignorant to all that goes into a beta test and a dedicated log for one....

nice on trying to take this "private" too, would be a shame to defend yourself this sadly in public...
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Thanks to this tester we are now short another review... I will start mine on mon most likely, if not a few days after, and am sending ryansm his bottle I just received tomorrow.... should have it in a matter of days as well for another reliable log... with this now if I can just be left out of this fiasco any further it would be appreciated.... NO PMS or anything, im done.
 
poopypants said:
Thanks to this tester we are now short another review... I will start mine on mon most likely, if not a few days after, and am sending ryansm his bottle I just received tomorrow.... should have it in a matter of days as well for another reliable log... with this now if I can just be left out of this fiasco any further it would be appreciated.... NO PMS or anything, im done.
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I'm sorry you feel this way and find your posting of a private message very unprofessional but figured you'd post my reply.However I still wish you and ryansm the best of luck with your logs and will be showing support throughout both your logs.
 
ya, mich your on my ignore list pal, quit pming me with your banter its unwanted.... also trying to tell a previous IBE rep what IBE is or isnt doing is funny, your not telling me anything new.
 
poopypants said:
ya, mich your on my ignore list pal, quit pming me with your banter its unwanted.... also trying to tell a previous IBE rep what IBE is or isnt doing is funny, your not telling me anything new.
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this is why I wanted to keep this private theres no reason to flood my log with this type of discussion I would have much rather been adult about this and pm'ed this to a conclusion rather then a childish outcome.At your request I'll put you on ignore as well and stay out of your logs and etc.I will say nothing more to you.you wanna paint me as the dumb ****ing moron and backstabbing evil guy by exposing a private message thats fine.
 
UPDATE

DOSING PROTOCOL CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dosing will be updated to 2 doses a day at 2ml once in the morning and once again mid evening.femara and nolvadex are on hand in case of any issues that may come up.My first sides update will be later on tonight.
 
mich29 said:
DOSING PROTOCOL CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dosing will be updated to 2 doses a day at 2ml once in the morning and once again mid evening.femara and nolvadex are on hand in case of any issues that may come up.My first sides update will be later on tonight.
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How long will your cycle last?
 
mich29 said:
DOSING PROTOCOL CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dosing will be updated to 2 doses a day at 2ml once in the morning and once again mid evening.femara and nolvadex are on hand in case of any issues that may come up.My first sides update will be later on tonight.
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If I were you I would not do that.... 4ml is the high end dosage, that could be for some who's 250lbs (almost twice your size)

you have no idea about running this at 4ml could do to you.

Are you not feeling any effects? whats the reason behind wanting to up the dosage?
 
BTW, you have not reported much on how you're responding to this compound..... is your energy up? are you recovering faster? any lethargy? how's your mood? appetite?

tell us some more... inquiring minds want to know
 
Your a fool, glad delta repped me for this thread and brought me back.....

2mg/ml

That means 4ml is 8mg..... Good luck quadruple dosing and getting jaundice
 
Delta Force said:
If I were you I would not do that.... 4ml is the high end dosage, that could be for some who's 250lbs (almost twice your size)

you have no idea about running this at 4ml could do to you.

Are you not feeling any effects? whats the reason behind wanting to up the dosage?
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Very true I have no clue what could happen but also to be fair to all we really have no real idea what an effective dose is other than what we are being told.If you were around back when superdrol was first put out people were told taking 30mg and 40mg was a safe dose and some even more than that.as far as effects I'll cover that later on tonight.

As far as my reason for double dosing its to allow the supplement to remain in the bloodstream longer throughout the day. I like to use the basic half life rule of around 4 to 6 hours.Right now I would think an effective and quick to feel and actual see working dose would be between 10mg and 40mg factoring in body weight and AR sensitivity.
 
mich29 said:
Very true I have no clue what could happen but also to be fair to all we really have no real idea what an effective dose is other than what we are being told.If you were around back when superdrol was first put out people were told taking 30mg and 40mg was a safe dose and some even more than that.as far as effects I'll cover that later on tonight.

As far as my reason for double dosing its to allow the supplement to remain in the bloodstream longer throughout the day. I like to use the basic half life rule of around 4 to 6 hours.Right now I would think an effective and quick to feel and actual see working dose would be between 10mg and 40mg factoring in body weight and AR sensitivity.
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Where did you get the half life time from?
 
Someone quote my last post regarding the fact that its not 1mg/ml, its 2mg/ml and once again he's severely overdosing based on his own premonitions and totally ignoring how he should run it as set forth by ibe, let alone what is likely appropriate for his weight....

The only reason I know this is cause delta repped me I came to the link and saw someone elses quote of his post, I assume it blocks my posts from his view too, so quote the last one or someone tell numbnuts yourself hes screwin up again
 
Origianally posted by Poopypants-

Your a fool, glad delta repped me for this thread and brought me back.....

2mg/ml

That means 4ml is 8mg..... Good luck quadruple dosing and getting jaundice


Skitzoid-

Mich. Your overdosing. Your getting your ml and mg in a cuffufle.

When you started this thread you clearly stated that you did not want to bulk, yes? You said you were hoping for 5lbs maybe, yes?
People told you maybe you were in for 15-20lbs. So why would you want to push the dose to dangerous levels when you clearly state to people that you value your health and you feel a healthy person at 126lbs? Its hard to respect you as a logger when you contradict yourself mate. Im relatively new in AM, I want to see a decent log, not someone who is playing games, with us and with himself. Im not sure after you pm to poop you are straight up anyway. Im not sure your really taking the compound, or maybe not taking the compound in the way you say you are. At this rate I feel as if you could just be fabricating your entire log for attention. There are other people now logging this compound that im following. Basically if you are going to do it properly and stop playing silly buggers i'll continue to follow, if you continue with this attention seakinf self destuction then im un-subbing. Like I said, there are worthwhile logs to follow now, so I suggest you become one of them or risk your health and the respect of other posters on AM that will also probably un-sub.
 
mich29 let me say this... a lot of us here spent a good amount of time on this thread and most if not all provided you with good feedback and advice on how to run this compound safely (we could have all been really hash on you considering your starting weight and what not) ... now you're planning to double or quadruple your dose, once you do that basically makes your log invalid since you're no longer following IBE protocol

I honestly dont see what you're trying to achieve here if you do that... some compounds takes days/weeks to kick in, but again you have not reported any symptoms on this compound like I ask you earlier (see my previous post)

If you decide to do that its a clear indication you're ignoring everyone's advice here, I know everyone else experience in this thread is greater than yours, go ahead do what you wish.... I dont think I'll be back here (waste of time)
 
Oh sweet Lord. I leave this thread for like 5 days and this is what I come back to?! This is not ideal at all.

And mich, this isn't a personal stab at you, but as it has been pointed out, you're kind of d!cking over IBE on this by using doses other than that of the protocol (not to mention your weight doesn't seem like it would be enough to deem the high end of dosing).

In all seriousness, though - don't dose that high. It's this kind of stuff that leads to bad things happening.
 
SkItZoId said:
Where did you get the half life time from?
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the basic half life of most ph/ds products.

SkItZoId said:
Origianally posted by Poopypants-

Your a fool, glad delta repped me for this thread and brought me back.....

2mg/ml

That means 4ml is 8mg..... Good luck quadruple dosing and getting jaundice


Skitzoid-

Mich. Your overdosing. Your getting your ml and mg in a cuffufle.

When you started this thread you clearly stated that you did not want to bulk, yes? You said you were hoping for 5lbs maybe, yes?
People told you maybe you were in for 15-20lbs. So why would you want to push the dose to dangerous levels when you clearly state to people that you value your health and you feel a healthy person at 126lbs? Its hard to respect you as a logger when you contradict yourself mate. Im relatively new in AM, I want to see a decent log, not someone who is playing games, with us and with himself. Im not sure after you pm to poop you are straight up anyway. Im not sure your really taking the compound, or maybe not taking the compound in the way you say you are. At this rate I feel as if you could just be fabricating your entire log for attention. There are other people now logging this compound that im following. Basically if you are going to do it properly and stop playing silly buggers i'll continue to follow, if you continue with this attention seakinf self destuction then im un-subbing. Like I said, there are worthwhile logs to follow now, so I suggest you become one of them or risk your health and the respect of other posters on AM that will also probably un-sub.
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I decided after hearing the weight issue brought up one too many times to actually bulk up and get back up in normal weight for a bb since it seems from research this is the only way to get that chip off my back.Regardless of some of the candor used here by some I still enjoy this place.Supports are in place in case of issues.I'm upping the dose based on what I feel is an effective dose for me myself personally.Again this is not for attention.If people don't like what I have said they have the choice to simply advoid this log.Respect will come with time I don't expect anyone to say anything pleasant as right now the information we have on this product seems to lead to it being very strong so fear mongering has pretty much taken over and crushed any free thought from being had.

Delta Force said:
mich29 let me say this... a lot of us here spent a good amount of time on this thread and most if not all provided you with good feedback and advice on how to run this compound safely (we could have all been really hash on you considering your starting weight and what not) ... now you're planning to double or quadruple your dose, once you do that basically makes your log invalid since you're no longer following IBE protocol

I honestly dont see what you're trying to achieve here if you do that... some compounds takes days/weeks to kick in, but again you have not reported any symptoms on this compound like I ask you earlier (see my previous post)

If you decide to do that its a clear indication you're ignoring everyone's advice here, I know everyone else experience in this thread is greater than yours, go ahead do what you wish.... I dont think I'll be back here (waste of time)
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They gave us a 2 week supply which means in theory in 2 weeks I should experience something in 2 weeks.The label says 1 or 2 drops daily this is well within the log rules.I've taken the advice of a few and put them into my workouts and diet.I respect the constructive advice and has taken it to heart.but like I said for anyone including myself to claim out right they know enough about this stuff to really log it with certainly 100% is a liar.Only Ibe and the beta testers know what the real dosing ranges are and they aren't talking so we are left to debate.

funkd0c said:
Mich, are you even working out? I have only seen one workout posted by you...
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this log is a waste of time according to many so theres no point in me writing down all this info and logging it here.I'll report on sides which will be the only usefully function of this log it appears.
 
i'm super late here...but mich-are you actually testing or are you just doing a study of how someone with your stats would be treated by a bb community? I'm confused.

and man, if you are testing, i really don't see why you're so set on super dosing this. sure no one knows exactly what will happen, but is playing roulette with your health really worth it?
 
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