BCAAs

miked7

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who take them? notice better results? I'm trying to increase protein synthesis and want to know if I can get what the pills have to offer through easy nutrition...
 
I take none, waste of frikken money. If you consume protein shakes they have BCAA's in them, and between that and food it should be all you need. I dont even waste my money on this crap anymore
 
Why is the 8:1:1 ratio better then a 2:1:1 or 4:1:1? I thought there needed to be a balance between the three bcaas?
 
Bcaa's are Godsend for musclegrowth. 5 grams equal about 20 grams protein ONLY you only have the aminos that stimulate muscle growth and takes the other aminos out-which add more calories.

I take them and have noticed nice results since I first started taking them. There is a lot of science behind them. My favorite is recoverpro- amazing taste and low price best bang for the buck on the BCAA market- my fav flavor is probably lemon

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CoorsLight126 said:
I take none, waste of frikken money. If you consume protein shakes they have BCAA's in them, and between that and food it should be all you need. I dont even waste my money on this crap anymore
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This. I've taken several on varying diets (low carb, maintenance, lean bulk, etc.) and also followed the same diet/workout without taking BCAAs and they haven't made the slightest bit of difference in helping me reach my goals.
 
More Leucine=Opening mTOR=More protein synthesis. You probably wont see over night results, heck I know you wont. But over time BCAA;s will help muscle growth, metabolism, and much more. Should be a staple in my opinion.
 
SweetLou321 said:
Why is the 8:1:1 ratio better then a 2:1:1 or 4:1:1? I thought there needed to be a balance between the three bcaas?
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Leucine is the star for protein synthesis, but the others are required to be present for all of leucines effects to take place.

You cant take just leucine and get full benefits from it. The others need to be present at least at saturation levels. Some people might be getting enough from diet, but there is no way to really know.

So its best just to roll with 8:1:1. It is what you want if you want muscle. 2:1:1 and 4:1:1 are good for anti-catabolic purposes IMO
 
nattydisaster said:
Leucine is the star for protein synthesis, but the others are required to be present for all of leucines effects to take place.

You cant take just leucine and get full benefits from it. The others need to be present at least at saturation levels. Some people might be getting enough from diet, but there is no way to really know.

So its best just to roll with 8:1:1. It is what you want if you want muscle. 2:1:1 and 4:1:1 are good for anti-catabolic purposes IMO
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Thank you for ending the reign of broscience lol. Although I'm gonna have to lean towards a lower ratio for fasted individuals. Leucine alone is perfectly fine for the majority of individuals here, who have a high meal frequency. For low meal frequency or fasting, 2:1:1 or 4:1:1.

The key is simply 0.045gleu/kg bw 2 hours or more postprandially.
 
For every two molecules of leucine metabolized, a molecule each of isoleucine and valine is required. This is why the original ratio has always been 2:1:1. If you take leucine alone you can deplete concentrations of the other two BCAA from the amino acid pool.
 
hmm, thanks guys. I guess since im bulking and eating 4-5 meals a day ill just go with a 4:1:1 or 8:1:1 product
 
I've tried all different ratio's.. I 've never noticed a difference so I stick with xtend.

Mike
 
I like using RecoverPRO(4:1:1) during the day and post workout. I'll use Formula-X(8:1:1) pre-workout:)
 
I just use bulk. So much cheaper than the rest
 
I know some that skip protein shakes and just do BCAA and EAAs. However, if your aim is to ramp up mTOR activation and increase protein synthesis, you want BCAA and protein, whether it is a shake or increased protein-rich whole foods in your diet. One to essentially drive the process and the other to fuel it. It really depends on what your goals are, but I find BCAAs help cutting, bulking, or recomping.
 
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BCAA powerchews are a great way to get in some BCAA in between meals. I use them every day along with xtend pre and post workout
 
JudgementDay said:
eh I hate the taste of bulk, I enjoy the lemonade RecoverPro, tastes awesome!
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with with the ajipure bcaa's you can barely even taste them in water. That is what I usually stick too since they dissolve well.
 
gwulbrecht72 said:
8:1:1, go with Modern BCAA, I live by this stuff when I'm on a cut....mixability and taste are pretty decent as well
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Really? I hated the mixability and taste lol. Stuff wouldnt mix even when I left it overnight.

Best BCAAs IMO are:

-Core ABC
-New Xtend
-Dymatize Recoup
-RecoverPro

If you want to bump up the 2:1:1 ratios, just throw in 1 scoop of SNS Leucine (5g).
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Thank you for ending the reign of broscience lol. Although I'm gonna have to lean towards a lower ratio for fasted individuals. Leucine alone is perfectly fine for the majority of individuals here, who have a high meal frequency. For low meal frequency or fasting, 2:1:1 or 4:1:1.

The key is simply 0.045gleu/kg bw 2 hours or more postprandially.
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Yup. Also most guys here are taking a protein shake I am guessing...which likely has BCAAs in them and would likely get you at saturation. Unless you are drinking some crappy soy protein or something
 
8:1:1 here
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Really? I hated the mixability and taste lol. Stuff wouldnt mix even when I left it overnight.

Best BCAAs IMO are:

-Core ABC
-New Xtend
-Dymatize Recoup
-RecoverPro

If you want to bump up the 2:1:1 ratios, just throw in 1 scoop of SNS Leucine (5g).
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I had the same mixability problem with MBCAA's. I thought taste was decent though. I like your list but would also add Axis Labs N'Gage, one of the best tasting ones I've tried but a bit pricey.
 
I love xtend, idk bout the new one tho, im hereing mixed things. anyone tried it? Mbcaa for me mixes fine. Recoverpro tastes great but doenst mix well. Ibcaa is my fav ever but wont be in stock for 2 more weeks :(
 
RecoverPro Lemon 4-1-1 Ratio AI Sports Nutrition. I take 2 scoops before lifting. Currently using the Lean Gains Protocol 16hrs fast/8hrs fed. Tastes excellent (crystal lite lemonade) and very soluable compared to other BCAA formulas.
 
SweetLou321 said:
why didnt my recoverpro mix as well?
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Hmmm. I use the AI shaker with the wire ball inside, breaks the powder down nicely. It also came with a bunch of AI freebies packed with it...score.
 
Also using IF, á la Warrior diet.. And I drink alot of BCAAs and EAAs.. AXcell Artic Berry is one of the best tasting BCAA I've tried.. Can't beat the picture up @ Invalid Link Removed, Poring down a BCAA Slush on a hot summer day after mowing the lawn :D

I usually use it pre- and intra-, since it isn't just another BCAA, but it also contains Citrulline Malate, Taurine, Vitamin B6 which boosts my stamina and the intensity alot...!
 
nattydisaster said:
I dont believe they should be used over protein at all
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Ah, let me rephrase. In what situation would taking BCAAs be better than taking whey? As in, why not just take whey every time you want to supplement, rather than spending more money on BCAAs?
 
Flabby said:
Ah, let me rephrase. In what situation would taking BCAAs be better than taking whey? As in, why not just take whey every time you want to supplement, rather than spending more money on BCAAs?
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BCAA's for one thing is a better way to add more leucine into your diet.
 
Flabby said:
Ah, let me rephrase. In what situation would taking BCAAs be better than taking whey? As in, why not just take whey every time you want to supplement, rather than spending more money on BCAAs?
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7g 2:1:1 BCAAs will stimulate MPS to the same degree as a 30g protein shake. BCAAs would be favorable in pre-contest mode, when every calorie counts. You can replace half your protein intake with BCAAs and cut at fewer calories at equal MPS levels.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
7g 2:1:1 BCAAs will stimulate MPS to the same degree as a 30g protein shake. BCAAs would be favorable in pre-contest mode, when every calorie counts. You can replace half your protein intake with BCAAs and cut at fewer calories at equal MPS levels.
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That makes sense. Seems to me that, for those of us who aren't too worried about 90 extra calories, BCAAs aren't really worth the money.... (?)
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Really? I hated the mixability and taste lol. Stuff wouldnt mix even when I left it overnight.

Best BCAAs IMO are:

-Core ABC
-New Xtend
-Dymatize Recoup
-RecoverPro

If you want to bump up the 2:1:1 ratios, just throw in 1 scoop of SNS Leucine (5g).
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I found that with modern bcaa, I have 2 mix with 8-10oz H2O with each scoop and that it helps once I have done the initial shake to keep flipping the bottle upside down and settle then right side up and settle a bit. It may not dissolve immediately, but it will in due time.
 
taman6886 said:
I found that with modern bcaa, I have 2 mix with 8-10oz H2O with each scoop and that it helps once I have done the initial shake to keep flipping the bottle upside down and settle then right side up and settle a bit. It may not dissolve immediately, but it will in due time.
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Using room temp water will help it dissolve a little better and faster then just throw some ice in it or put it in the fridge.
 
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