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Army Guy said:
thanks for keeping the thread alive while I get killed in these "How to treat Army Cadets with care and compassion" classes. I think I almost ripped my eyes out and smashed them with sledgehammers today!!! Oh and did you guys hear???? They are adding a NEW Army Value just for Cadets (kids in college about 21-25 years old) it is Empathy!!! I kid you not! How in the HALZ are we supposed to teach these kids war and brutality of it if we are concerned about not hurting their feelings when they get a booboo???? I actually asked the guy next to me to crush my nuts!!!
On a better note, one of my room mates (there are 4 of us in a 2 man room) wrestled Broc Lesner 4 times in college, and almost beat him twice. The guy is freaking HUGE. Well I was standing next to our Command Sergeant Major (who is a massive guy himself at 6'4") and he asked where and who this CPT was. I said "Hey CSM he is the big guy over there"
not kidding when I say that the CSM looked at me... looked me up and down, and growled, "Hell sir... what the hell are you talking about??? You're the BIG guy here. We all look like girls next to you"
I was a bit taken back, but laughed it off.
Was a nice compliment
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Oh man I bet that CSM is hating life...Empathy? That has to be a joke right?
...I remember having a female post commander in Ft Sill who forbade outside activity because it was 120 out for like a week, I remember going on Fn 5 miles runs at 3PM every day during that week...empathy my ass, need to teach your cadets to be crusty hard ass bastards so their troops respect them. I expect leaders to know how to properly counsel soldiers, you know, "you did this good but blew ass at this" type of empathy, but when I get tired, I expect my leaders to motivate me to keep pushing, not to hold my hand and pick out animals in the Fn clouds....

RAWRRR:usa::usa::usa:
 
oufinny said:
Well done VOTUM, never show fear to be around someone with a big title. From day one in my professional career I work with Presidents and CEOs, never do I show intimidation and they respect that. Good to hear you have a sharp commander there, too many lives are being lost over in Iraq and Afghanistan and knowing you have a solid commander surely makes you feel better. To all of you guys in the armed services, we sincerely appreciate what you do for us so we can continue to enjoy the American way of life free of fear and turmoil.
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Thanks mate :) Definitely not even close to equal, and I probably would have gotten my pee-pee smacked if I had talked to him, but I bet he would have thought I was pretty bold lol.

Yeah he knows his ****, I sit in on the morning brief and every time he opens his mouth he knows what hes talking about. Its just bad that half of the 1 and 2 stars we have are retarded lol.

But Generals are politically appointed, so its hit and miss just like politicians eh.
 
agree my friend!!! I will do my best to kick these pukes in the arse, but there is only so much a few of us can do under the radar!!! lol

Hit the gym tonight and was definitely not feeling it. Was aggravated by the course, the fact that I couldn't get on the net to chat with my brothers, and the gym being 100000 degrees. These numbers suck, but they are what they are. Will only post the heavy numbers as the time I have is really cut.

DB Incline Press: 100's x 8
Cable Crossovers: who knows what the numbers were. They were rubbed off. 4 sets
Standing reverse cable tricep extensions Super Setted with Standing regular tricep extensions
4 sets - entire rack plus 2 plates strapped on... got some funny looks lol
Close grip pull downs: only went up to 240 on this
BB Curls. They only had the pre loaded bars, so only used the 100lb for a lot of good reps
all the shoulder crap was taken, but did the whole thing so fast that I nearly puked!!! lol

on another note there was a huge dude there doing deads with 495 and repping it like 15 times with perfect form. Was impressed. He was in Army PT's and you NEVER see that much weight with that good of form from these guys. Then the guy ruined my respect by putting over 500 on the squat rack and basically doing 1/4 reps. He looked retarded and all the chumps were ooing and awing at how strong he was... I think that added to my nausea!!!
 
Nice workout! Are you in that coffee shop or did they finally get internet over there?

You should have asked him if he needed a spotter or was just stretching :P
 
Army Guy said:
on another note there was a huge dude there doing deads with 495 and repping it like 15 times with perfect form. Was impressed. He was in Army PT's and you NEVER see that much weight with that good of form from these guys. Then the guy ruined my respect by putting over 500 on the squat rack and basically doing 1/4 reps. He looked retarded and all the chumps were ooing and awing at how strong he was... I think that added to my nausea!!!
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You should have told him to add a couple hundred pounds to the bar since he was obviously doing lock-outs!!!! :lol:
 
Damn, I could have done better than that even with my f*cked-up knees!
 
Lots of good posts ... first of all concerning dealing with those in higher authority. Right on the money. First of all nobody is better and anyone else, only give them the respect they've earned, and they better damn do the some for you!! If a person thinks they're bettter than you because of higher station then I can guarantee you one they.. they are not!! We all have our roles to play but that does not include kissing ass!!

Now about training cadets, all I can say is sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind...

The showoffs with partials drive me batty, once in a while I will say .. "do you do the partials for a reason"? When they look at me like they don't know what I am talking about I know I have them lol
 
lol you guys are all 100% correct!!! today is yet another day of training we have here.... boooooooooooo I can't wait for this to be over and actually get our cadets in. The arrive Tuesday, until them we have sensitivity and paperwork training every day.... please kill me!!

On another note, I was wondering if any of you guys have a vid that shows the best form for bent over BB Rows (Dorian) I have seen 8000000 of them, and they are all different. Some guys have the bar below the knees for every rep, some slightly above. Some are so bent over that they are almost vertical, while others are standing straight up. Some guys have a slight bounce but the bounce looks natural, and others look like a grandfather clock... I get guys asking me all the time what I do, and I show them what I think is best, which to me is what engages the muscles the most. 90 degree bent. bar down to about the knees but I don't go below...
 
Army Guy said:
lol you guys are all 100% correct!!! today is yet another day of training we have here.... boooooooooooo I can't wait for this to be over and actually get our cadets in. The arrive Tuesday, until them we have sensitivity and paperwork training every day.... please kill me!!

On another note, I was wondering if any of you guys have a vid that shows the best form for bent over BB Rows (Dorian) I have seen 8000000 of them, and they are all different. Some guys have the bar below the knees for every rep, some slightly above. Some are so bent over that they are almost vertical, while others are standing straight up. Some guys have a slight bounce but the bounce looks natural, and others look like a grandfather clock... I get guys asking me all the time what I do, and I show them what I think is best, which to me is what engages the muscles the most. 90 degree bent. bar down to about the knees but I don't go below...
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Same here Army, I did these today and am not sure if I am doing them right or not. Post a vid or give a good description for those that are more learned than me!
 
Back at 15-30 degrees with a slight arch pointing the chest up as high as possible. If concentrating on contraction use slightly lower weight move deliberately pull bar closer toward hips. For power, slight momentum / bob acceptable due to the explosive movement up bringing anywhere from bottom of ribcage to the lower abdomen / hip area depending on the grip you are using, then a controlled release back to starting position.

I see a lot of guys doing these almost standing up and then it becomes a row/shrug with much shorter range of motion. Will hit the upper back well but the thickness of the lower lats will suffer from this practice.
 
^ haha :P

I start at 90 degrees, bar at knees, first rep is like 3/4, at the top I bring my bakc up like 10 degrees and flex my chest out a bit, and then at the bottom the bar is below my knees, I just extend my arms fully. Sounds like I am bent over too much form the starting pos. I'll have to look at that vid when I get home :)
 
I try to take it to chest the same way votum is situated. It's one of those exercises who not everyone knows EXACTLY how to do it but you can tailor it to you liking. I've seen like 3000000+ diff ways....each dude was of decent size, so I know their ways are legit.
 
yeah I am thinking about the same. The way Kleen described is about how I do them. About 30 degrees. But this is the position that works best for me and that I get the most growth... Hopefully I can get that vid done, but that might be a stretch while here... oh well... we shall see. But I think a tutu might have to be a must... I think I will wear a picture of TG over my face too... but then again that might give Met too much fap material!!! lol
 
if it gives the most growth keep rolling. There isn't necessarily a "wrong" way to do them if you're seeing noticeable "predictable" results (back/bicep) growth.
 
Sounds like I had more free range as to how I could torture the little sh1ts I helped coach at my old high school. And I felt like my hands were being tied as it was. Plus for some reason none of them wanted to wrestle me except a roided up juice monkey. And that b1tch was just stupid. Put me in a front headlock twice and both times I picked him up and turned him sideways slamming him to the mat. It crushed his over inflated ego and his will to fight back :sgrin:
 
Tomahawk88 said:
Sounds like I had more free range as to how I could torture the little sh1ts I helped coach at my old high school. And I felt like my hands were being tied as it was. Plus for some reason none of them wanted to wrestle me except a roided up juice monkey. And that b1tch was just stupid. Put me in a front headlock twice and both times I picked him up and turned him sideways slamming him to the mat. It crushed his over inflated ego and his will to fight back :sgrin:
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There ya go!!!!
 
I dont want to try and derail AG thread or anything but just to show u how stupid this kid was. He got kicked off the team for throwing a bottle of piss in an opposing school's bus that we were parked next to. They werent in it but it was obvious who did it.

He quit the team bc the head coach said he was just sticking around for the free t-shirt lol. I thought it was a messed up thing to say but the kid sucked. Years of wrestling apparently but tried to out muscle guys. The thing was he is a show muscle kind of guy.

He is into bodybuilding now where he cant hurt a team with his bad attitude.

Ok thats my boring ass I cant stand the idiot kids I tried to coach in wrestling story.
 
^ LOL at that mate, I wrestled varsity at 119, which believe it or not is an insane weight class, because there's like 1 kid who is strong lol. So much technique involved o.O

Would have been so much easier if you were allowed to choke someone out.

Also, LMFAO at headlock...
 
Army Guy said:
I think I will wear a picture of TG over my face too!!! lol
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That could prove dangerous. Women will be chasing you like a pack of hungry lionesses chasing a gazelle. :lol:

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buahahahahaha NICE!!!!! love the pics TG and the rest of you are free to highjack ANY time!!!! No rules here!!!! This is a man's thread!!! Throw it ALL in!!!

We are DONE with sensitivity training FINALLY!!! I think I hung myself 3 times throughout the process!!!! All is good though! We get the cadets in a few days. TOday we get the barracks and all the gear. Fun times.
 
im back!!! give a bit to catch up!!! looks like ive missed quite a bit!
 
welcome my friend!!!

Ok guys this is our last night of freedom before the reigns come in and we are babysitting... I mean TRAINING the cadIDIOTS... I mean Cadets... I guess they are going to take away my sensitivity training deploma... DAMN IT!!!! lol and YES we got a deploma on this crap!!!
So for one last hurah and to remind ourselves we are men, the guys are going into town to watch the A-Team. We figure we will take notes on their sensitivity in that film and apply THEIR lessons to the cadets. We are counting this as "Homework" at least the LTC thinks so!!! lol
"Yes sir we worked hard all night on our sensitivity rehearsals! We are ready to carrress and coddle these young minds and develope them into the future pu#@$#@ies of America SIR!!!"
should be enjoyable!!!! lol
 
Army Guy said:
welcome my friend!!!

Ok guys this is our last night of freedom before the reigns come in and we are babysitting... I mean TRAINING the cadIDIOTS... I mean Cadets... I guess they are going to take away my sensitivity training deploma... DAMN IT!!!! lol and YES we got a deploma on this crap!!!
So for one last hurah and to remind ourselves we are men, the guys are going into town to watch the A-Team. We figure we will take notes on their sensitivity in that film and apply THEIR lessons to the cadets. We are counting this as "Homework" at least the LTC thinks so!!! lol
"Yes sir we worked hard all night on our sensitivity rehearsals! We are ready to carrress and coddle these young minds and develope them into the future pu#@$#@ies of America SIR!!!"
should be enjoyable!!!! lol
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There is no sensitivity in the heat of battle....make them grow balls and drop the sensitivity crap. If their feelings get hurt....i dont give a dam. They are training for combat not cuddling.

Why the hell do you need to be sensitive?!?!?!? christ are people really so weak?
 
lol YES they are. Think about all the kids in highschool and college right now. If you so much as sneeze on them wrong they are offended and either they quit, or they sue. new world my friend, and not that good of one. If I treated them like we should, and how I will when no one is watching, then half of them would quit and the other half would get stronger. Fine by me, but in a world of numbers, this is not "Acceptable" as my boss here likes to say...
 
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lol YES they are. Think about all the kids in highschool and college right now. If you so much as sneeze on them wrong they are offended and either they quit, or they sue. new world my friend, and not that good of one. If I treated them like we should, and how I will when no one is watching, then half of them would quit and the other half would get stronger. Fine by me, but in a world of numbers, this is not "Acceptable" as my boss here likes to say...
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I remember when i was in highschool my class started to get in real big trouble for "Hazing" the younger classes.....i never understood this. I was hazed....i fought back....end of hazing, i grew my balls and kept going

I honestly laugh at people who get offended so easily, hoping the take a swing...but as of late I have tried to be more understanding...and by doing so i think I may grow a vagina, this bothers me...i really wish at times i could just slap someone and not go to jail. Too many times i must set aside my pride and allow these.....these.....god i dont even have a word for them....to say all the crap they want and not back it up....to outright be flagrant pricks with no fear of getting their ass handed to them


Just the other day...I was talking to this guy that I almost punched in the face for his utter level of being an *******....i smiled, stayed ver cordial...said he was entitled to his opinion and everyone views things differently...and walked away....I so wanted to feel the steel of my fist collide with the bone of his face and hear that beautiful crunch or pop of a jaw disolcating or something breaking.


Oh how those days are long past.....
 
^ It's even worse as a soldier :( I think I was in one of the last waves of real boot camp o.O 4 hours a night sleep, over 120K road marched in 10 weeks. Was only 5.5 years ago, and makes me feel damn old when I see how people are trained now...they don't even teach proper ****ing drill and ceremony...wtf is this rounded turn ****, its one or two precise movements to turn a column depending on where you stand...not a ****ing lackidaisical stroll....
 
Great lift with an EPIC fail!!!! lol

Alright guys quick update on the lift before I hit the road to watch the A-team!!!

The Lift:
Decline BB Press:
135 - 225 - 225 - 275x6
Incline DB Flies:
75's - 80's - 80's x 8 Felt great here and form was PERFECT
Reverse Bench Press BB:
135 - 225 - 225 - 225x5
Skull Crushers: Done with Hammer bar
80 - 100 - 120x8 Felt good but took a bit getting used to the grip
Stiff Leg Deads: Ok Kleen time to berate me!!!! lol
135 - 225 - 315 did these 8 times no prob so went to 405... got it 1/2 inch and FAIL!!! lol the leg said NOPE!!!! shhhhhh don't tell Kleen!!!
Hercules Curls
4 sets

SUPPER SET
Seated cable rows:
4 sets last one at 240x8
Cable curls 2 hand
4 sets

Shoulder press
2 sets
Beat feet!!!
Was a great lift, but the numbers will soon rise!!!!
Muahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
 
GoHardOrGoHme said:
I remember when i was in highschool my class started to get in real big trouble for "Hazing" the younger classes.....i never understood this. I was hazed....i fought back....end of hazing, i grew my balls and kept going

I honestly laugh at people who get offended so easily, hoping the take a swing...but as of late I have tried to be more understanding...and by doing so i think I may grow a vagina, this bothers me...i really wish at times i could just slap someone and not go to jail. Too many times i must set aside my pride and allow these.....these.....god i dont even have a word for them....to say all the crap they want and not back it up....to outright be flagrant pricks with no fear of getting their ass handed to them


Just the other day...I was talking to this guy that I almost punched in the face for his utter level of being an *******....i smiled, stayed ver cordial...said he was entitled to his opinion and everyone views things differently...and walked away....I so wanted to feel the steel of my fist collide with the bone of his face and hear that beautiful crunch or pop of a jaw disolcating or something breaking.


Oh how those days are long past.....
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Think how I feel at my size...I'm double-f*cked. Unless someone actually takes a poke at me, I'm in the wrong because of my size alone. So some little sh*t always feels like he can f*ck with me. I goad them, yes, hoping they'll try their luck. but usually they have enough sense to just keep talking sh*t from a distance or walking away. I had a guy hit me seven years ago. I broke his nose with one punch. I then jumped on him and was gonna smash his head into the ground, but there were too many witnesses. So I usually just ask them, "You sure you wanna ride this ride with me?"
 
I'm hoping that Major Dad doesn't mind the temporary hi-jack.

But Happy Father's Day to all you dad's out there. There's no greater feeling in the world than to be loved and appreciated by your children, They really are a blessing of the Lord.
And Army Guy has been VERY blessed in this regard!!!

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SilentBob187 said:
Careful major, they might catch you ridin dirty.

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That pic always cracks me up, "tactical" segways :lol: Imagine them on those doing a Z pattern or an Australian peel.

I have only one big Dbag in the trunk.
 

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Lol you guys are killing me!!! Love all the pics. Hide your women and children... AG in the house!!!
And TG my thread is your thread my brother. Happy Fathers Day!!!
 
thundergod said:
I'm hoping that Major Dad doesn't mind the temporary hi-jack.

But Happy Father's Day to all you dad's out there. There's no greater feeling in the world than to be loved and appreciated by your children, They really are a blessing of the Lord.
And Army Guy has been VERY blessed in this regard!!!

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Yes he has
 
He has given new meaning to, "I have overcome!" BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! No, seriously, Happy Father's Day to you and everyone else.
 
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