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[gphagan1]

Thanks man it felt great! I didn't stress too much over my ramp up weights since I wanted to stay where the boy could spot me safely but 290 felt good enough to hammer out some more work there and not risk a failed rep. Pretty much, the cabin is on the water and the floorboards get wet at high tide. My wife's family settled out here like 100+ years ago (boat builders and farmers. Some awesome stories there)

so they have this family plot on the water that's shared between like 8 of us but we live a couple hundred yards up the hill from it, so we can walk down the road (about 1 mile) to the cabin and beach. Its Puget Sound, not too far from Tacoma. Our house is probably like 500-1000 yards off the water as the bird flies. Amazing views and amazing weather damage on that side of the house every year

Hydes right, we have very very few actually sandy beaches. Most are pretty rocky out here. That was a medium high tide, on a low tide there's about 40-50 more feet of beach. Our tidal swings can be like 14+ feet.

Up in the San Juan Islands there are a couple decently sandy areas but it's only warm for like 4-6 weeks of the year

I bet you and your wife have some great views. Are you near any of the volcanoes?

 

[Dustin07]

I bet you and your wife have some great views. Are you near any of the volcanoes?

Baker, Rainier, Adams and Helens. Mt Rainier everyone out here sorta claims as "our mountain". When I was a kid mom and dads driveway was 1/4 mile walk from bus stop to house facing the mountain the whole way. My home town was about 45 minutes to either the Mt Rainier area (Crystal mountain snowboarding) or the Summit at Snoqualmie (more snowboarding).

Now days we are like 2 hrs away from the snow so our extra curricular time is spent more on the water.

this is a shot my wife got from our place:

This is my favorite shot from boating up in the islands. on a clear day you can see the Olympic Mtn range to the west, and the cascades (mt Baker area) to the east. It's surreal waking up in the Skagit mudflats in a layout boat after the sun rise run of ducks come over and you see nothing but the snow covered mountains.

 

[gphagan1]

Baker, Rainier, Adams and Helens. Mt Rainier everyone out here sorta claims as "our mountain". When I was a kid mom and dads driveway was 1/4 mile walk from bus stop to house facing the mountain the whole way. My home town was about 45 minutes to either the Mt Rainier area (Crystal mountain snowboarding) or the Summit at Snoqualmie (more snowboarding).

Now days we are like 2 hrs away from the snow so our extra curricular time is spent more on the water.

this is a shot my wife got from our place:

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This is my favorite shot from boating up in the islands. on a clear day you can see the Olympic Mtn range to the west, and the cascades (mt Baker area) to the east. It's surreal waking up in the Skagit mudflats in a layout boat after the sun rise run of ducks come over and you see nothing but the snow covered mountains.

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Wow, that’s incredible.

 

[GreenMachineX]

Baker, Rainier, Adams and Helens. Mt Rainier everyone out here sorta claims as "our mountain". When I was a kid mom and dads driveway was 1/4 mile walk from bus stop to house facing the mountain the whole way. My home town was about 45 minutes to either the Mt Rainier area (Crystal mountain snowboarding) or the Summit at Snoqualmie (more snowboarding).

Now days we are like 2 hrs away from the snow so our extra curricular time is spent more on the water.

this is a shot my wife got from our place:

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This is my favorite shot from boating up in the islands. on a clear day you can see the Olympic Mtn range to the west, and the cascades (mt Baker area) to the east. It's surreal waking up in the Skagit mudflats in a layout boat after the sun rise run of ducks come over and you see nothing but the snow covered mountains.

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Jelly

 

[Dustin07]

it really is man, we're super blessed. We want to name our next boat bendecida (blessed in Espanol). we wouldn't even be considering moving to Mexico except we are just tired of the politics, cost of living, taxes, and massive congestion in our region. I used to drive into Seattle 2 times per week for rock concerts and now days it's hard to motivate ourselves to fight the traffic even every other month to visit the city.

 

[PolishHamm3r77]

Baker, Rainier, Adams and Helens. Mt Rainier everyone out here sorta claims as "our mountain". When I was a kid mom and dads driveway was 1/4 mile walk from bus stop to house facing the mountain the whole way. My home town was about 45 minutes to either the Mt Rainier area (Crystal mountain snowboarding) or the Summit at Snoqualmie (more snowboarding).

Now days we are like 2 hrs away from the snow so our extra curricular time is spent more on the water.

this is a shot my wife got from our place:

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This is my favorite shot from boating up in the islands. on a clear day you can see the Olympic Mtn range to the west, and the cascades (mt Baker area) to the east. It's surreal waking up in the Skagit mudflats in a layout boat after the sun rise run of ducks come over and you see nothing but the snow covered mountains.

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That is a relaxing view!!!!!

 

[MrKleen73]

Great workout, pictures and views. Really serving it up for us today!

 

[Dustin07]

That is a relaxing view!!!!!

Great workout, pictures and views. Really serving it up for us today!

yeah despite my bitching about certain things in WA and the cold weather, there are these few months during the summer where even being at home feels like being on vacation:

I forgot about this one, this was our first boat we bought together. (she said you know it would be a neat wedding present if you just went ahead and bought that maxum before we got married and surprised me) so I did LOLOLOLOL I'm shocked that worked out so well


My wife's aunt and uncle had this buoy put in down at the cabin (same place I took the dogs this weekend) so we could tie up there and row the dinghy into shore. Not sure if I trust the buoy long time cause the currents really get moving in that area but it made for a fun shot.

 

[Dustin07]

we usually get a great full moon like that around my wifes bday that looks like it's coming right out of the mountain so we always make it a point to catch that one with wine on the back deck or something.

 

[MrKleen73]

Wow now that pic with the full moon is beautiful for sure!

 

[Dustin07]

Wow now that pic with the full moon is beautiful for sure!

I'll see if I can catch a good clear night with the Ferry crossing sometime for you. I think I have one somewhere. the ferry is all lit up headed to the island while the moon was out. totally surreal to see

 

[gphagan1]

we usually get a great full moon like that around my wifes bday that looks like it's coming right out of the mountain so we always make it a point to catch that one with wine on the back deck or something.

My wife loves photography, and she really takes some great pictures. After seeing those photos, now she wants to visit the Northwest.

 

[Dustin07]

My wife loves photography, and she really takes some great pictures. After seeing those photos, now she wants to visit the Northwest.

1st and 2nd week of August are usually the warmest and driest lol
boaters call it fogust because we tend to have a marine layer in the morning, but my wife and I prefer to plan our San Juan Islands trips in early august around her birthday rather than risking rain in June/July.

if you guys come up here, hit me up!!

 

[Dustin07]

Yeah sorta backed myself into a corner with that 445 pull lol.
+ 20lbs at 465 would likely be my last top effort of the day, so no PR but probably would have got it
+35lbs a bit harder, but a PR attempt.

rethinking everything; I think a decent approach for the next few weeks might be to drop 5lbs next week and make 10lb efforts going forward. so top sets/reps of:

week 1 = 460
week 2 = 470
week 3 = 480
week 4 = 490
week 5 = 500

(last week was 455).

of course training isn't necessarily linear but it might make an interesting attempt/approach. My deficits are doing their job, I think RDLs are working so I need to add weight to both of those, and maybe sprinkle in a rack pull day every other week.

Booking marking this for easy reference.

 

[gphagan1]

1st and 2nd week of August are usually the warmest and driest lol
boaters call it fogust because we tend to have a marine layer in the morning, but my wife and I prefer to plan our San Juan Islands trips in early august around her birthday rather than risking rain in June/July.

if you guys come up here, hit me up!!

Yeah, absolutely….sure will.

 

[Dustin07]

Deads
10 x 135
2 x 5 x 185
1 x 235, 285, 335, 370, 400, 430, 460
5 x 375
12 x 315


Back extensions
Bw x 16
+25lb x 12, 12
(Wow, been a while! Felt these more than the deads )

Superset with barbell rows
12 x 135
10 x 145
10 x 155

Hammer strength lat pull downs
3 sets.

Superset with EZ bar curls
3 sets

Weight 203

note for sake of history on log:
Thursday/thanksgiving went great. woke up friday with pretty good sore throat. fought that off and golfed in 27f weather.
did not sleep well fri/sat/sun kept waking up with drainage. small headaches in the morning. doubled down on elderberry and C. had pho for dinner last night. the head cold is still lingering today (Monday). have stayed very carbed up all weekend, trying to hydrate well. Todays lift went really well despite the cold, but it did leave my throat more sore.

That 460 was a good pull, but I did not have another attempt in me. it was my goal, I just wish it was easier to make next week a good push forward. I might have had 465 or 470 in me, but I did not have a second attempt thats for sure.

the 12 x 315 was super easy. stopped at 12 just cause it seemed like enough, definitely had 15+ in me if I wanted it.

 

[Dustin07]

one other notation thinking about my own hunger (or lack thereof postWO) and @MrKleen73 s current macros. I am sorta at a weird point where getting high quality calories in simply is not easy. I could probably force down junk food or liquid calories but aside from my protein shake, the 1/2 lb+ of turkey I have in my lunch doesn't even look appealing to me yet.

 

[MrKleen73]

one other notation thinking about my own hunger (or lack thereof postWO) and @MrKleen73 s current macros. I am sorta at a weird point where getting high quality calories in simply is not easy. I could probably force down junk food or liquid calories but aside from my protein shake, the 1/2 lb+ of turkey I have in my lunch doesn't even look appealing to me yet.

Depends on what you want to eat of add into things. If you are anti-protein shake like you have said before it might not help, but my first 2 meals are like this in order for me to get them in easily and be ready for and then recover from my gym session.

Meal 1 = 150g frozen pineapple, 150g banana, 42g of honey, and 2 scoops of whey
Meal 2 = 90g cream of rice cereal, 21g Honey, 100g blueberries and 60g worth of protein from whey.

Very easy to digest and actually pretty easy to get down even if not hungry. Definitely not junk food but tasty as all get out and easily downed.

 

[Dustin07]

If you are anti-protein shake like you have said before it might not help, but my first 2 meals are like this in order for me to get them in easily and be ready for and then recover from my gym session.

well lol, i'm not anti protein shake. I was just surprised that they're still such a staple for so many people I have a protein shake intraworkout almost every session. I still have a bunch of those single serving muscle milks my wife grabbed at costco so always toss one in my gym bag. already had one today! got back to the office after lunch and was NOT hungry though. I have on a few occasions had my intraWO shake, then didn't actually get to my lunch meal until I was at home like 4-5pm... then had dinner with my wife at 6-7pm lol

I usually don't tell her "I just ate" when she makes dinner. I just man up and eat again.

Meal 1 = 150g frozen pineapple, 150g banana, 42g of honey, and 2 scoops of whey
Meal 2 = 90g cream of rice cereal, 21g Honey, 100g blueberries and 60g worth of protein from whey.

Very easy to digest and actually pretty easy to get down even if not hungry. Definitely not junk food but tasty as all get out and easily downed.

that's awesome and a fantastic idea. one of the things I really liked about your macro break down was the moderation in fat calories. It's easy to slam 1000 calories if you don't mind 75g of fat lol. But eating clean is much harder in volume. LOVE this iea of added fruit.

 

[MrKleen73]

well lol, i'm not anti protein shake. I was just surprised that they're still such a staple for so many people I have a protein shake intraworkout almost every session. I still have a bunch of those single serving muscle milks my wife grabbed at costco so always toss one in my gym bag. already had one today! got back to the office after lunch and was NOT hungry though. I have on a few occasions had my intraWO shake, then didn't actually get to my lunch meal until I was at home like 4-5pm... then had dinner with my wife at 6-7pm lol

I usually don't tell her "I just ate" when she makes dinner. I just man up and eat again.



that's awesome and a fantastic idea. one of the things I really liked about your macro break down was the moderation in fat calories. It's easy to slam 1000 calories if you don't mind 75g of fat lol. But eating clean is much harder in volume. LOVE this iea of added fruit.

Yeah, it is also a great way to make sure I am getting some vitamins. fiber. and antioxidants in regularly. Which is a huge benefit in my eyes. If you decide to try the breakfast I would recommend eating the banana, and making a smoothie with the pineapple, protein, and honey. As good as i thought the banana would be in it, it just frothed everything up and made the shake almost flavorless. Banana's in a shake are a good add in but not 150 grams worth.

 

[gphagan1]

Yeah, it is also a great way to make sure I am getting some vitamins. fiber. and antioxidants in regularly. Which is a huge benefit in my eyes. If you decide to try the breakfast I would recommend eating the banana, and making a smoothie with the pineapple, protein, and honey. As good as i thought the banana would be in it, it just frothed everything up and made the shake almost flavorless. Banana's in a shake are a good add in but not 150 grams worth.

Yeah, I love fruit, and keep our Vitamix blender busy with fruit and protein smoothies, but I’m the same way with bananas. I like to eat them, but just don’t like them in a blender.

 

[GreenMachineX]

Deads
10 x 135
2 x 5 x 185
1 x 235, 285, 335, 370, 400, 430, 460
5 x 375
12 x 315


Back extensions
Bw x 16
+25lb x 12, 12
(Wow, been a while! Felt these more than the deads )

Superset with barbell rows
12 x 135
10 x 145
10 x 155

Hammer strength lat pull downs
3 sets.

Superset with EZ bar curls
3 sets

Weight 203

note for sake of history on log:
Thursday/thanksgiving went great. woke up friday with pretty good sore throat. fought that off and golfed in 27f weather.
did not sleep well fri/sat/sun kept waking up with drainage. small headaches in the morning. doubled down on elderberry and C. had pho for dinner last night. the head cold is still lingering today (Monday). have stayed very carbed up all weekend, trying to hydrate well. Todays lift went really well despite the cold, but it did leave my throat more sore.

That 460 was a good pull, but I did not have another attempt in me. it was my goal, I just wish it was easier to make next week a good push forward. I might have had 465 or 470 in me, but I did not have a second attempt thats for sure.

the 12 x 315 was super easy. stopped at 12 just cause it seemed like enough, definitely had 15+ in me if I wanted it.

I think I asked before, but are those deads mixed Grip or wraps?

 

[Dustin07]

I think I asked before, but are those deads mixed Grip or wraps?

Na, I lost one like a year ago and haven't used them since. I used to find them helpful on like high rep RDLs but at the moment grip just hasn't been an issue (maybe a sign I'm not training hard enough??). They'd be really nice for lat pull downs though now that I think about it

 

[GreenMachineX]

Na, I lost one like a year ago and haven't used them since. I used to find them helpful on like high rep RDLs but at the moment grip just hasn't been an issue (maybe a sign I'm not training hard enough??). They'd be really nice for lat pull downs though now that I think about it

So you're deads are double overhand???

 

[MrKleen73]

Na, I lost one like a year ago and haven't used them since. I used to find them helpful on like high rep RDLs but at the moment grip just hasn't been an issue (maybe a sign I'm not training hard enough??). They'd be really nice for lat pull downs though now that I think about it

I think you train hard, but you could also be leaving something on the table if you can train harder with them.
It would probably serve your back better if you did some of your lat and upper back hypertrophy work with straps or versa-gripps if grip ever becomes a focus during a work set instead of the muscle of the back. When focusing on your grip you simply can not pull as much, or as many reps as you could using them. That being said, and especially on deads, I think it is important to use your own grip at least for lower rep sets to increase your grip strength or at a minimum keep it static and enough to hit your 1-5 rep sets without them.

 

[Dustin07]

So you're deads are double overhand???

sorry homie, missed that part. I have this sorta unwarranted fear of a bicep injury during heavy pulls (too many youtube videos) so I tend to move to switch grip at around 315lbs to start stretching and warming up the bicep. (I also tend to do some light weight bicep curls before I pull. even just the empty barbell on the platform for 10-20 reps).

So I have no idea what my 1rm double overhand would be. When I do drop sets of 6 or less reps I tend to go double over hand but if I'm planning sets of more than 6-10+ then I just stick with switch grip because 10+ reps at 315 really is hell on the thumbs for hook grip.

I think you train hard, but you could also be leaving something on the table if you can train harder with them.
It would probably serve your back better if you did some of your lat and upper back hypertrophy work with straps or versa-gripps if grip ever becomes a focus during a work set instead of the muscle of the back. When focusing on your grip you simply can not pull as much, or as many reps as you could using them. That being said, and especially on deads, I think it is important to use your own grip at least for lower rep sets to increase your grip strength or at a minimum keep it static and enough to hit your 1-5 rep sets without them.

Where I remember using them quite a bit was probably rows. even occasionally very heavy hammer curls, and lat pull downs and occasionally RDLs. They might be worth bringing back into the gym bag. Where I don't like them is for very heavy deadlifts. I found that when I used straps on super heavy reps (like 1rm efforts for instance) I felt like my lats and shoulders got lazy. my form in the thoracic was worse. but for movements where I can run extra cheater reps safely, heck yeah they would likely bring some added benefit!

 

[PolishHamm3r77]

sorry homie, missed that part. I have this sorta unwarranted fear of a bicep injury during heavy pulls (too many youtube videos) so I tend to move to switch grip at around 315lbs to start stretching and warming up the bicep. (I also tend to do some light weight bicep curls before I pull. even just the empty barbell on the platform for 10-20 reps).

So I have no idea what my 1rm double overhand would be. When I do drop sets of 6 or less reps I tend to go double over hand but if I'm planning sets of more than 6-10+ then I just stick with switch grip because 10+ reps at 315 really is hell on the thumbs for hook grip.



Where I remember using them quite a bit was probably rows. even occasionally very heavy hammer curls, and lat pull downs and occasionally RDLs. They might be worth bringing back into the gym bag. Where I don't like them is for very heavy deadlifts. I found that when I used straps on super heavy reps (like 1rm efforts for instance) I felt like my lats and shoulders got lazy. my form in the thoracic was worse. but for movements where I can run extra cheater reps safely, heck yeah they would likely bring some added benefit!

Suffered distal bicep tendon rupture once. THEN I went down the rabbit hole on YouTube of deadlift bicep fails and seeing that thing roll up like a window shade. NASTY. I don’t pull often but it is always in the back of my mind when I do. Use to pull a lot until I tore the bicep. Didn’t tear it lifting either. It’s a mental thing.

 

[Hyde]

Suffered distal bicep tendon rupture once. THEN I went down the rabbit hole on YouTube of deadlift bicep fails and seeing that thing roll up like a window shade. NASTY. I don’t pull often but it is always in the back of my mind when I do. Use to pull a lot until I tore the bicep. Didn’t tear it lifting either. It’s a mental thing.

Always pull with your torn/repaired hand under. If they repaired it, the tendon is as good as when you were born, and if you didn’t have it repaired you can’t blow it again lol. If you switch your underhand, you will blow the other one in time.

This was something Louie Simmons said, and I have to say, I have seen several guys who switched their mix grip after a repair only to blow the other side. So I went back to pulling with my repaired hand under and have had no issues lifting the same weights as before. I tried to switch for a spell and had a very close shave with a 600lb pull on my good arm, so I then took Lou’s advice to heart.

 

[PolishHamm3r77]

Always pull with your torn/repaired hand under. If they repaired it, the tendon is as good as when you were born, and if you didn’t have it repaired you can’t blow it again lol. If you switch your underhand, you will blow the other one in time.

This was something Louie Simmons said, and I have to say, I have seen several guys who switched their mix grip after a repair only to blow the other side. So I went back to pulling with my repaired hand under and have had no issues lifting the same weights as before. I tried to switch for a spell and had a very close shave with a 600lb pull on my good arm, so I then took Lou’s advice to heart.

So underhand grip w the surgically repaired arm, got it! I have a bigger, better lookin bi on the side that had the surgery. Is that the same 4 you?

 

[Hyde]

So underhand grip w the surgically repaired arm, got it! I have a bigger, better lookin bi on the side that had the surgery. Is that the same 4 you?

Nah, they stretched mine down a little and pinned it to the inside of the forearm. This is better for leveraging the muscle itself/making it stronger, but it doesn’t bulge quite as much or peak quite as high as before. It’s only subtle, but that sleeve gets loose a tad sooner when I lose weight.

 

[PolishHamm3r77]

Nah, they stretched mine down a little and pinned it to the inside of the forearm. This is better for leveraging the muscle itself/making it stronger, but it doesn’t bulge quite as much or peak quite as high as before. It’s only subtle, but that sleeve gets loose a tad sooner when I lose weight.

I got an “endo button” and some fiber sutures. Small scar. Not the big “chair scar”

 

[Dustin07]

I got an “endo button” and some fiber sutures. Small scar. Not the big “chair scar”

I have a scar on my left bicep (My under hand when switch gripped) and it's interesting how with heavier weights (like 385+) I can sometimes feel the scar sorta stretching/tearing.

 

[MrKleen73]

Always pull with your torn/repaired hand under. If they repaired it, the tendon is as good as when you were born, and if you didn’t have it repaired you can’t blow it again lol. If you switch your underhand, you will blow the other one in time.

This was something Louie Simmons said, and I have to say, I have seen several guys who switched their mix grip after a repair only to blow the other side. So I went back to pulling with my repaired hand under and have had no issues lifting the same weights as before. I tried to switch for a spell and had a very close shave with a 600lb pull on my good arm, so I then took Lou’s advice to heart.

Very interesting, I used to go back and forth switching sides to try to keep my structure and grip strength relatively even. However after a while my nondominant side started to really pull on the biceps and I couldn't really underhand grip on that side for a while, much less do light curls. Lots of ART later is when I started using a DOH going as high as I could go then using versa-grips more often during training and saving the mixed grip for low reps.

I have a scar on my left bicep (My under hand when switch gripped) and it's interesting how with heavier weights (like 385+) I can sometimes feel the scar sorta stretching/tearing.

I still feel that if I use that hand on the underside with a really heavy weight. I also use straps / grips on my rack pulls now so I can stay in double overhand grip. Well any heavy pulling movement that I will be doing more than 5 reps on actually.

 

[GreenMachineX]

Very interesting, I used to go back and forth switching sides to try to keep my structure and grip strength relatively even. However after a while my nondominant side started to really pull on the biceps and I couldn't really underhand grip on that side for a while, much less do light curls. Lots of ART later is when I started using a DOH going as high as I could go then using versa-grips more often during training and saving the mixed grip for low reps.
I still feel that if I use that hand on the underside with a really heavy weight. I also use straps / grips on my rack pulls now so I can stay in double overhand grip. Well any heavy pulling movement that I will be doing more than 5 reps on actually.

How far do you work up to before putting on the straps?

 

[PolishHamm3r77]

I have a scar on my left bicep (My under hand when switch gripped) and it's interesting how with heavier weights (like 385+) I can sometimes feel the scar sorta stretching/tearing.

I’m w you. Like the skin is pulled tight and it will flex but the scar doesn’t. I have felt that “pull” feeling also

 

[Hyde]

I always used to switch back and forth between sets, and basically never used straps. I just always did my absolute max pull attempts, with my dominant underhand. So I would open in a meet with my right hand then pull left hand under for 2nd & 3rd.

Anyway, one meet I was lifting with a great 220 deadlifter. He mentioned he never switched his grip - dominant was always under, and if doing sets over 5 reps or backdown work he wore his straps. I mentioned how I used to worry about uneven development, and he said look at my lats and decide for yourself (we were both topless with our singlets at our wastes as we had just finished the meet). He was perfectly symmetrical, great lats, because the truth is all of the other back work being done for considerably more volume is going to ensure the lats are even - way more than low rep isometric contractions for heavy deadlifts build them.

TLDR - worrying about asymmetrical lat development from not switching mixed grip is pencil-neck fear-mongering from the Johnny One-plates of yesteryear. We were sold a big pile of rubbish, and we bought it

 

[Dustin07]

I always used to switch back and forth between sets, and basically never used straps. I just always did my absolute max pull attempts, with my dominant underhand. So I would open in a meet with my right hand then pull left hand under for 2nd & 3rd.

Anyway, one meet I was lifting with a great 220 deadlifter. He mentioned he never switched his grip - dominant was always under, and if doing sets over 5 reps or backdown work he wore his straps. I mentioned how I used to worry about uneven development, and he said look at my lats and decide for yourself (we were both topless with our singlets at our wastes as we had just finished the meet). He was perfectly symmetrical, great lats, because the truth is all of the other back work being done for considerably more volume is going to ensure the lats are even - way more than low rep isometric contractions for heavy deadlifts build them.

TLDR - worrying about asymmetrical lat development from not switching mixed grip is pencil-neck fear-mongering from the Johnny One-plates of yesteryear. We were sold a big pile of rubbish, and we bought it

I did the same thing for a while. It seemed counterintuitive to only train one hand under but for the past few years I go left hand under, which is sorta interesting because I'm right handed. I don't notice any difference in development from left arm to right or left lat to right. however, I have trained that left hand to feel more secure in the pull and while I could probably do pretty heavy pulls with my right hand under, left has become dominate in that regard.

 

[MrKleen73]

I always used to switch back and forth between sets, and basically never used straps. I just always did my absolute max pull attempts, with my dominant underhand. So I would open in a meet with my right hand then pull left hand under for 2nd & 3rd.

Anyway, one meet I was lifting with a great 220 deadlifter. He mentioned he never switched his grip - dominant was always under, and if doing sets over 5 reps or backdown work he wore his straps. I mentioned how I used to worry about uneven development, and he said look at my lats and decide for yourself (we were both topless with our singlets at our wastes as we had just finished the meet). He was perfectly symmetrical, great lats, because the truth is all of the other back work being done for considerably more volume is going to ensure the lats are even - way more than low rep isometric contractions for heavy deadlifts build them.

TLDR - worrying about asymmetrical lat development from not switching mixed grip is pencil-neck fear-mongering from the Johnny One-plates of yesteryear. We were sold a big pile of rubbish, and we bought it

Damnit! Horn-swaggled again!!!!

 

[GreenMachineX]

How far do you work up to before putting on the straps?

@MrKleen73 I see that you liked this post but never answered the question lol

 

[Dustin07]

@MrKleen73 I see that you liked this post but never answered the question lol

it was a good post and he figured it was rhetorical

 

[MrKleen73]

@MrKleen73 I see that you liked this post but never answered the question lol

it was a good post and he figured it was rhetorical

DOH! I even had it quoted, it showed up in a multiquote I just tried to do. LMAO. The heaviest I have gone was DOH on dead lifts at 425x3, I normally do all of my warm up sets DOH then depending on reps mixed grip or straps/ versa gripps come into play around 315 to 365. The 425 was during a period I was really focusing on my grip with the deads.

 

[GreenMachineX]

DOH! I even had it quoted, it showed up in a multiquote I just tried to do. LMAO. The heaviest I have gone was DOH on dead lifts at 425x3, I normally do all of my warm up sets DOH then depending on reps mixed grip or straps/ versa gripps come into play around 315 to 365. The 425 was during a period I was really focusing on my grip with the deads.

Gotcha. Nice lifts. I think I need to start bringing chalk to the gym again so I can go farther without straps.

 

[Dustin07]

Gotcha. Nice lifts. I think I need to start bringing chalk to the gym again so I can go farther without straps.

my buddy and I each keep a bottle of liquid chalk in our gym bags and I threw some in my sons gym bag as well. super cheap on amazon

 

[MrKleen73]

Gotcha. Nice lifts. I think I need to start bringing chalk to the gym again so I can go farther without straps.

Yeah, I was definitely using chalk on the 425x3. Still almost lost it on the 3rd rep.

my buddy and I each keep a bottle of liquid chalk in our gym bags and I threw some in my sons gym bag as well. super cheap on amazon

Yeah, that stuff is surprisingly effective, and great for when at a gym that doesn't allow powder.

 

[GreenMachineX]

my buddy and I each keep a bottle of liquid chalk in our gym bags and I threw some in my sons gym bag as well. super cheap on amazon

Guess I need to start bringing a bag. Ordering it now.

Edit: ordering the chalk now I mean

 

[GreenMachineX]

my buddy and I each keep a bottle of liquid chalk in our gym bags and I threw some in my sons gym bag as well. super cheap on amazon

There's too many brands on Amazon...which kind do you use?

 

[Dustin07]

There's too many brands on Amazon...which kind do you use?

Amazon.com

Amazon.com

 

[Dustin07]

i got my boy another one that I don't like as much, it's too watery. and my buddy just bought a 4th type that we've been using. but these two have been staples for me

 

[Dustin07]

Bench
15 x bar, 95, 135
2 x 185, 220, 240, 260
1 x 280, 295, 300

Slingshot
1 x 315, 325

Raw
5 x 250, 225 (long pause)

Laterals
3 x 12 x 30s

Superset with
Hammer strength dips
3 x 12-15 ascending weight

Hammer strength incline press
3 sets ascending weight to 2-3 RIR

Notes
This head cold is still kicking my ass, almost no voice and sets over 3-5reps gave me a killer sore throat.

All in all tho pretty good day. Tied my raw PR, and I can't remember if my slingshot PR is 325 or 330.

Weight
204

 

[Dustin07]

My only complaint is lack of volume. Really felt like I needed more today but not enough time.