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MrKleen73 said:
Yeah, it is also a great way to make sure I am getting some vitamins. fiber. and antioxidants in regularly. Which is a huge benefit in my eyes. If you decide to try the breakfast I would recommend eating the banana, and making a smoothie with the pineapple, protein, and honey. As good as i thought the banana would be in it, it just frothed everything up and made the shake almost flavorless. Banana's in a shake are a good add in but not 150 grams worth. :)
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Yeah, I love fruit, and keep our Vitamix blender busy with fruit and protein smoothies, but I’m the same way with bananas. I like to eat them, but just don’t like them in a blender.
 
Dustin07 said:
Deads
10 x 135
2 x 5 x 185
1 x 235, 285, 335, 370, 400, 430, 460
5 x 375
12 x 315


Back extensions
Bw x 16
+25lb x 12, 12
(Wow, been a while! Felt these more than the deads )

Superset with barbell rows
12 x 135
10 x 145
10 x 155

Hammer strength lat pull downs
3 sets.

Superset with EZ bar curls
3 sets

Weight 203

note for sake of history on log:
Thursday/thanksgiving went great. woke up friday with pretty good sore throat. fought that off and golfed in 27f weather.
did not sleep well fri/sat/sun kept waking up with drainage. small headaches in the morning. doubled down on elderberry and C. had pho for dinner last night. the head cold is still lingering today (Monday). have stayed very carbed up all weekend, trying to hydrate well. Todays lift went really well despite the cold, but it did leave my throat more sore.

That 460 was a good pull, but I did not have another attempt in me. it was my goal, I just wish it was easier to make next week a good push forward. I might have had 465 or 470 in me, but I did not have a second attempt thats for sure.

the 12 x 315 was super easy. stopped at 12 just cause it seemed like enough, definitely had 15+ in me if I wanted it.
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I think I asked before, but are those deads mixed Grip or wraps?
 
GreenMachineX said:
I think I asked before, but are those deads mixed Grip or wraps?
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Na, I lost one like a year ago and haven't used them since. I used to find them helpful on like high rep RDLs but at the moment grip just hasn't been an issue (maybe a sign I'm not training hard enough??). They'd be really nice for lat pull downs though now that I think about it
 
Dustin07 said:
Na, I lost one like a year ago and haven't used them since. I used to find them helpful on like high rep RDLs but at the moment grip just hasn't been an issue (maybe a sign I'm not training hard enough??). They'd be really nice for lat pull downs though now that I think about it
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So you're deads are double overhand???
 
Dustin07 said:
Na, I lost one like a year ago and haven't used them since. I used to find them helpful on like high rep RDLs but at the moment grip just hasn't been an issue (maybe a sign I'm not training hard enough??). They'd be really nice for lat pull downs though now that I think about it
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I think you train hard, but you could also be leaving something on the table if you can train harder with them.
It would probably serve your back better if you did some of your lat and upper back hypertrophy work with straps or versa-gripps if grip ever becomes a focus during a work set instead of the muscle of the back. When focusing on your grip you simply can not pull as much, or as many reps as you could using them. That being said, and especially on deads, I think it is important to use your own grip at least for lower rep sets to increase your grip strength or at a minimum keep it static and enough to hit your 1-5 rep sets without them.
 
GreenMachineX said:
So you're deads are double overhand???
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sorry homie, missed that part. I have this sorta unwarranted fear of a bicep injury during heavy pulls (too many youtube videos) so I tend to move to switch grip at around 315lbs to start stretching and warming up the bicep. (I also tend to do some light weight bicep curls before I pull. even just the empty barbell on the platform for 10-20 reps).

So I have no idea what my 1rm double overhand would be. When I do drop sets of 6 or less reps I tend to go double over hand but if I'm planning sets of more than 6-10+ then I just stick with switch grip because 10+ reps at 315 really is hell on the thumbs for hook grip.

MrKleen73 said:
I think you train hard, but you could also be leaving something on the table if you can train harder with them.
It would probably serve your back better if you did some of your lat and upper back hypertrophy work with straps or versa-gripps if grip ever becomes a focus during a work set instead of the muscle of the back. When focusing on your grip you simply can not pull as much, or as many reps as you could using them. That being said, and especially on deads, I think it is important to use your own grip at least for lower rep sets to increase your grip strength or at a minimum keep it static and enough to hit your 1-5 rep sets without them.
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Where I remember using them quite a bit was probably rows. even occasionally very heavy hammer curls, and lat pull downs and occasionally RDLs. They might be worth bringing back into the gym bag. Where I don't like them is for very heavy deadlifts. I found that when I used straps on super heavy reps (like 1rm efforts for instance) I felt like my lats and shoulders got lazy. my form in the thoracic was worse. but for movements where I can run extra cheater reps safely, heck yeah they would likely bring some added benefit!
 
Dustin07 said:
sorry homie, missed that part. I have this sorta unwarranted fear of a bicep injury during heavy pulls (too many youtube videos) so I tend to move to switch grip at around 315lbs to start stretching and warming up the bicep. (I also tend to do some light weight bicep curls before I pull. even just the empty barbell on the platform for 10-20 reps).

So I have no idea what my 1rm double overhand would be. When I do drop sets of 6 or less reps I tend to go double over hand but if I'm planning sets of more than 6-10+ then I just stick with switch grip because 10+ reps at 315 really is hell on the thumbs for hook grip.



Where I remember using them quite a bit was probably rows. even occasionally very heavy hammer curls, and lat pull downs and occasionally RDLs. They might be worth bringing back into the gym bag. Where I don't like them is for very heavy deadlifts. I found that when I used straps on super heavy reps (like 1rm efforts for instance) I felt like my lats and shoulders got lazy. my form in the thoracic was worse. but for movements where I can run extra cheater reps safely, heck yeah they would likely bring some added benefit!
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Suffered distal bicep tendon rupture once. THEN I went down the rabbit hole on YouTube of deadlift bicep fails and seeing that thing roll up like a window shade. NASTY. I don’t pull often but it is always in the back of my mind when I do. Use to pull a lot until I tore the bicep. Didn’t tear it lifting either. It’s a mental thing.
 
PolishHamm3r77 said:
Suffered distal bicep tendon rupture once. THEN I went down the rabbit hole on YouTube of deadlift bicep fails and seeing that thing roll up like a window shade. NASTY. I don’t pull often but it is always in the back of my mind when I do. Use to pull a lot until I tore the bicep. Didn’t tear it lifting either. It’s a mental thing.
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Always pull with your torn/repaired hand under. If they repaired it, the tendon is as good as when you were born, and if you didn’t have it repaired you can’t blow it again lol. If you switch your underhand, you will blow the other one in time.

This was something Louie Simmons said, and I have to say, I have seen several guys who switched their mix grip after a repair only to blow the other side. So I went back to pulling with my repaired hand under and have had no issues lifting the same weights as before. I tried to switch for a spell and had a very close shave with a 600lb pull on my good arm, so I then took Lou’s advice to heart.
 
Hyde said:
Always pull with your torn/repaired hand under. If they repaired it, the tendon is as good as when you were born, and if you didn’t have it repaired you can’t blow it again lol. If you switch your underhand, you will blow the other one in time.

This was something Louie Simmons said, and I have to say, I have seen several guys who switched their mix grip after a repair only to blow the other side. So I went back to pulling with my repaired hand under and have had no issues lifting the same weights as before. I tried to switch for a spell and had a very close shave with a 600lb pull on my good arm, so I then took Lou’s advice to heart.
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So underhand grip w the surgically repaired arm, got it! I have a bigger, better lookin bi on the side that had the surgery. Is that the same 4 you?
 
PolishHamm3r77 said:
So underhand grip w the surgically repaired arm, got it! I have a bigger, better lookin bi on the side that had the surgery. Is that the same 4 you?
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Nah, they stretched mine down a little and pinned it to the inside of the forearm. This is better for leveraging the muscle itself/making it stronger, but it doesn’t bulge quite as much or peak quite as high as before. It’s only subtle, but that sleeve gets loose a tad sooner when I lose weight.
 
Hyde said:
Nah, they stretched mine down a little and pinned it to the inside of the forearm. This is better for leveraging the muscle itself/making it stronger, but it doesn’t bulge quite as much or peak quite as high as before. It’s only subtle, but that sleeve gets loose a tad sooner when I lose weight.
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I got an “endo button” and some fiber sutures. Small scar. Not the big “chair scar”
 
Hyde said:
Always pull with your torn/repaired hand under. If they repaired it, the tendon is as good as when you were born, and if you didn’t have it repaired you can’t blow it again lol. If you switch your underhand, you will blow the other one in time.

This was something Louie Simmons said, and I have to say, I have seen several guys who switched their mix grip after a repair only to blow the other side. So I went back to pulling with my repaired hand under and have had no issues lifting the same weights as before. I tried to switch for a spell and had a very close shave with a 600lb pull on my good arm, so I then took Lou’s advice to heart.
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Very interesting, I used to go back and forth switching sides to try to keep my structure and grip strength relatively even. However after a while my nondominant side started to really pull on the biceps and I couldn't really underhand grip on that side for a while, much less do light curls. Lots of ART later is when I started using a DOH going as high as I could go then using versa-grips more often during training and saving the mixed grip for low reps.
Dustin07 said:
I have a scar on my left bicep (My under hand when switch gripped) and it's interesting how with heavier weights (like 385+) I can sometimes feel the scar sorta stretching/tearing.
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I still feel that if I use that hand on the underside with a really heavy weight. I also use straps / grips on my rack pulls now so I can stay in double overhand grip. Well any heavy pulling movement that I will be doing more than 5 reps on actually.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Very interesting, I used to go back and forth switching sides to try to keep my structure and grip strength relatively even. However after a while my nondominant side started to really pull on the biceps and I couldn't really underhand grip on that side for a while, much less do light curls. Lots of ART later is when I started using a DOH going as high as I could go then using versa-grips more often during training and saving the mixed grip for low reps.
I still feel that if I use that hand on the underside with a really heavy weight. I also use straps / grips on my rack pulls now so I can stay in double overhand grip. Well any heavy pulling movement that I will be doing more than 5 reps on actually.
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How far do you work up to before putting on the straps?
 
Dustin07 said:
I have a scar on my left bicep (My under hand when switch gripped) and it's interesting how with heavier weights (like 385+) I can sometimes feel the scar sorta stretching/tearing.
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I’m w you. Like the skin is pulled tight and it will flex but the scar doesn’t. I have felt that “pull” feeling also
 
I always used to switch back and forth between sets, and basically never used straps. I just always did my absolute max pull attempts, with my dominant underhand. So I would open in a meet with my right hand then pull left hand under for 2nd & 3rd.

Anyway, one meet I was lifting with a great 220 deadlifter. He mentioned he never switched his grip - dominant was always under, and if doing sets over 5 reps or backdown work he wore his straps. I mentioned how I used to worry about uneven development, and he said look at my lats and decide for yourself (we were both topless with our singlets at our wastes as we had just finished the meet). He was perfectly symmetrical, great lats, because the truth is all of the other back work being done for considerably more volume is going to ensure the lats are even - way more than low rep isometric contractions for heavy deadlifts build them.

TLDR - worrying about asymmetrical lat development from not switching mixed grip is pencil-neck fear-mongering from the Johnny One-plates of yesteryear. We were sold a big pile of rubbish, and we bought it
 
Hyde said:
I always used to switch back and forth between sets, and basically never used straps. I just always did my absolute max pull attempts, with my dominant underhand. So I would open in a meet with my right hand then pull left hand under for 2nd & 3rd.

Anyway, one meet I was lifting with a great 220 deadlifter. He mentioned he never switched his grip - dominant was always under, and if doing sets over 5 reps or backdown work he wore his straps. I mentioned how I used to worry about uneven development, and he said look at my lats and decide for yourself (we were both topless with our singlets at our wastes as we had just finished the meet). He was perfectly symmetrical, great lats, because the truth is all of the other back work being done for considerably more volume is going to ensure the lats are even - way more than low rep isometric contractions for heavy deadlifts build them.

TLDR - worrying about asymmetrical lat development from not switching mixed grip is pencil-neck fear-mongering from the Johnny One-plates of yesteryear. We were sold a big pile of rubbish, and we bought it
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I did the same thing for a while. It seemed counterintuitive to only train one hand under but for the past few years I go left hand under, which is sorta interesting because I'm right handed. I don't notice any difference in development from left arm to right or left lat to right. however, I have trained that left hand to feel more secure in the pull and while I could probably do pretty heavy pulls with my right hand under, left has become dominate in that regard.
 
Hyde said:
I always used to switch back and forth between sets, and basically never used straps. I just always did my absolute max pull attempts, with my dominant underhand. So I would open in a meet with my right hand then pull left hand under for 2nd & 3rd.

Anyway, one meet I was lifting with a great 220 deadlifter. He mentioned he never switched his grip - dominant was always under, and if doing sets over 5 reps or backdown work he wore his straps. I mentioned how I used to worry about uneven development, and he said look at my lats and decide for yourself (we were both topless with our singlets at our wastes as we had just finished the meet). He was perfectly symmetrical, great lats, because the truth is all of the other back work being done for considerably more volume is going to ensure the lats are even - way more than low rep isometric contractions for heavy deadlifts build them.

TLDR - worrying about asymmetrical lat development from not switching mixed grip is pencil-neck fear-mongering from the Johnny One-plates of yesteryear. We were sold a big pile of rubbish, and we bought it
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Damnit! Horn-swaggled again!!!!
 
GreenMachineX said:
@MrKleen73 I see that you liked this post but never answered the question lol
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Dustin07 said:
it was a good post and he figured it was rhetorical 😅😅
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DOH! I even had it quoted, it showed up in a multiquote I just tried to do. LMAO. The heaviest I have gone was DOH on dead lifts at 425x3, I normally do all of my warm up sets DOH then depending on reps mixed grip or straps/ versa gripps come into play around 315 to 365. The 425 was during a period I was really focusing on my grip with the deads.
 
MrKleen73 said:
DOH! I even had it quoted, it showed up in a multiquote I just tried to do. LMAO. The heaviest I have gone was DOH on dead lifts at 425x3, I normally do all of my warm up sets DOH then depending on reps mixed grip or straps/ versa gripps come into play around 315 to 365. The 425 was during a period I was really focusing on my grip with the deads.
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Gotcha. Nice lifts. I think I need to start bringing chalk to the gym again so I can go farther without straps.
 
GreenMachineX said:
Gotcha. Nice lifts. I think I need to start bringing chalk to the gym again so I can go farther without straps.
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Yeah, I was definitely using chalk on the 425x3. Still almost lost it on the 3rd rep.
Dustin07 said:
my buddy and I each keep a bottle of liquid chalk in our gym bags and I threw some in my sons gym bag as well. super cheap on amazon
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Yeah, that stuff is surprisingly effective, and great for when at a gym that doesn't allow powder.
 
i got my boy another one that I don't like as much, it's too watery. and my buddy just bought a 4th type that we've been using. but these two have been staples for me
 
Bench
15 x bar, 95, 135
2 x 185, 220, 240, 260
1 x 280, 295, 300

Slingshot
1 x 315, 325

Raw
5 x 250, 225 (long pause)

Laterals
3 x 12 x 30s

Superset with
Hammer strength dips
3 x 12-15 ascending weight

Hammer strength incline press
3 sets ascending weight to 2-3 RIR

Notes
This head cold is still kicking my ass, almost no voice and sets over 3-5reps gave me a killer sore throat.

All in all tho pretty good day. Tied my raw PR, and I can't remember if my slingshot PR is 325 or 330.

Weight
204
 
Hyde said:
“Never tie your PR, dude.”
-Louie Simmons
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I honestly tried not to, but I had so much luck with pounding out a few at 290+ last weekend that I figured don't rock the boat and just keep that momentum.

Next Tuesday my wife has a surgery so I'll be home with her most of the time. My goal is to have a great bench session Sunday with my boy and then next week is a toss up so there may be a gap of time there to contend with.
 
GreenMachineX said:
But, if frequency is high enough, that's OK right?
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after 25 years I don't know the science. I studied all of Hyde's recommendations for Dapack, watched how many days they take off pre comp etc and I feel like if I miss a week I go backwards. of course, if I do too much, I go backwards... lol

GreenMachineX said:
When will you hit it again?
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Sunday with my boy for sure. So it's a toss up on whether or not I will go for 305 having a 14yr old spot me. if we get my buddy to join us for an all out bro sesh I'll probably go for it. If not, then i'll have a killer volume day for sure lol

either way I do feel good knowing that twice this week I hit 295 zero problems. 300 felt good and that what was a pie in the sky PR appears to be in my back pocket now.
 
Still a great and productive session!
 
Dustin07 said:
after 25 years I don't know the science. I studied all of Hyde's recommendations for Dapack, watched how many days they take off pre comp etc and I feel like if I miss a week I go backwards. of course, if I do too much, I go backwards... lol



Sunday with my boy for sure. So it's a toss up on whether or not I will go for 305 having a 14yr old spot me. if we get my buddy to join us for an all out bro sesh I'll probably go for it. If not, then i'll have a killer volume day for sure lol

either way I do feel good knowing that twice this week I hit 295 zero problems. 300 felt good and that what was a pie in the sky PR appears to be in my back pocket now.
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Don’t sweat it; you are doing work and obviously getting stronger.

When you take time off, you recover and shed fatigue. If fatigue was piling up, like in the beginning of/immediately prior to a peaking cycle, that time off at the end will make you stronger - provided you are doing enough work to maintain technical proficiency.

Most people can take 4-7 days off of a movement pattern entirely and still execute it very well. The more trained/advanced a lifter is and the hotter their nervous system runs, the longer they can maintain proficiency. Gender, years of experience, and steroid use all can impact this ability. Plus personal preferences of course - some people convince themselves they need more practice than they really do.
 
Hyde said:
Most people can take 4-7 days off of a movement pattern entirely and still execute it very well. The more trained/advanced a lifter is and the hotter their nervous system runs, the longer they can maintain proficiency. Gender, years of experience, and steroid use all can impact this ability. Plus personal preferences of course - some people convince themselves they need more practice than they really do.
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you know what's funny is how much I am still developing the skill of bench press. after a million reps (actually I did the math, it's probably less than 200,000 reps) I am still noticing some things improving. My descent at 295 and 300 yesterday felt incredible, like a light bulb went off. They were a tiny bit on the slow side but felt crazy controlled. I'm becoming more aware of seeing people absolutely collapse at the bottom as well on heavy efforts and I think my own experience + observing others is helping to improve my form a bit. (plus that advice you gave me last summer to get 315+ in my hands as often as possible)

PolishHamm3r77 said:
You have a porcupine lodged in your throat and you still trained. Fuk volume
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ahaha yeah. I told my wife I finally understand why my grandpa walked around with a handkerchief 😅 I wasn't snotty at the gym or anything but the past few days have felt like my head was in a tunnel, hard to hear and focus. My buddy suggested I take an antihistamine so I popped an allegra after the gym yesterday and felt almost immediately better, today I feel 99% recovered, except I slept on my arm poorly and my left shoulder is killing me like when you get a stiff neck from a bad pillow lol
 
PolishHamm3r77 said:
You have a porcupine lodged in your throat and you still trained. Fuk volume
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honestly only things that keep me from training are either schedule conflicts, or like all out depression. I'll train in a bad mood, but not in a low mood, I've learned sometimes that mental health recovery is actually more important for me even than physical recovery.
 
Dustin07 said:
you know what's funny is how much I am still developing the skill of bench press. after a million reps (actually I did the math, it's probably less than 200,000 reps) I am still noticing some things improving. My descent at 295 and 300 yesterday felt incredible, like a light bulb went off. They were a tiny bit on the slow side but felt crazy controlled. I'm becoming more aware of seeing people absolutely collapse at the bottom as well on heavy efforts and I think my own experience + observing others is helping to improve my form a bit. (plus that advice you gave me last summer to get 315+ in my hands as often as possible)



ahaha yeah. I told my wife I finally understand why my grandpa walked around with a handkerchief 😅 I wasn't snotty at the gym or anything but the past few days have felt like my head was in a tunnel, hard to hear and focus. My buddy suggested I take an antihistamine so I popped an allegra after the gym yesterday and felt almost immediately better, today I feel 99% recovered, except I slept on my arm poorly and my left shoulder is killing me like when you get a stiff neck from a bad pillow lol
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I’m dealing w shoulder pain on the left also. It’s the way I sleep or bad posture on the couch so I can be close to My Lady. I drive w left arm, when I put my harness on for working in the bucket it hurts then. Thought it was rotator or labrum but I can’t feel it notching, clicking or popping. No movement hurts other than flys which I have abandoned. Can barbell bench, incline db, barbell row, pull-down, lat prayers, seated military press, and Skull crushers on an incline all feel great. I can take a week off and it still hurts. Maybe it’s just tendinitis?
 
PolishHamm3r77 said:
I’m dealing w shoulder pain on the left also. It’s the way I sleep or bad posture on the couch so I can be close to My Lady. I drive w left arm, when I put my harness on for working in the bucket it hurts then. Thought it was rotator or labrum but I can’t feel it notching, clicking or popping. No movement hurts other than flys which I have abandoned. Can barbell bench, incline db, barbell row, pull-down, lat prayers, seated military press, and Skull crushers on an incline all feel great. I can take a week off and it still hurts. Maybe it’s just tendinitis?
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IDK but I always start with kettlebell armbars to prehab any inkling of a shoulder injury. 99% of the time that fixes it within a couple weeks. if it's worse than I have to dig in from there, but usually that's my solution.

in my case, weds night it suddenly flared up out of absolutely nowhere while sitting on the couch for a moment. almost nauseating. then it went away. woke up thursday and it was sore around the top of the tricep and down. But today it seems fully recovered. sometimes I just try to ignore some aches and pains cause it's hard to know what's in my head and whats legit unless it lingers.
 
@MrKleen73
would you be willing to post an example 1 day of nutrition for me here? breakfast, snacks, lunch, dinner etc? I have an idea of where your macros are but I'd like to see the full break down, and maybe fiber sources.
I would like to forego my daily lunch salad as it's been difficult to choke down lately. but it's been a great source of greens for me.
 
Dustin07 said:
@MrKleen73
would you be willing to post an example 1 day of nutrition for me here? breakfast, snacks, lunch, dinner etc? I have an idea of where your macros are but I'd like to see the full break down, and maybe fiber sources.
I would like to forego my daily lunch salad as it's been difficult to choke down lately. but it's been a great source of greens for me.
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Sorry Brother, I can't share the specifics of his meal plan as much as I would like too.
 
Warmup
Empty bb press, power cleans
Deads and cleans at 135lb

Deficit (2")
5 x 135, 225
3 x 235, 285, 335
1 x 385, 405

From the ground
3 x 5 x 315

Leg ext
3 x 15

Superset with
Leg curls
3 x 15


Notes
Feeling a bit gassed today, but got the work in. Still weirdly congested.

Although my lifting partner struggled today too and missed his 405 attempt so maybe we have just been burning it hard lately.

only other thing worth noting is today (Dec 1) I'm off epi so my supplement stack is pretty much just:

Anabolic Effect
Phosphatidic Acid XT
Orchic Extract
Alpha Gel

Thinking of getting some Anabolic XT or Growth Factor to throw in the mix.
 
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Dustin07 said:
IDK but I always start with kettlebell armbars to prehab any inkling of a shoulder injury. 99% of the time that fixes it within a couple weeks. if it's worse than I have to dig in from there, but usually that's my solution.

in my case, weds night it suddenly flared up out of absolutely nowhere while sitting on the couch for a moment. almost nauseating. then it went away. woke up thursday and it was sore around the top of the tricep and down. But today it seems fully recovered. sometimes I just try to ignore some aches and pains cause it's hard to know what's in my head and whats legit unless it lingers.
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Weird phantom pain. And then it just went away. And why do we all own a “bad pillow”. I have one I love and the other fuks my shiz up. I should just throw the damn thing out.
 
PolishHamm3r77 said:
Weird phantom pain. And then it just went away. And why do we all own a “bad pillow”. I have one I love and the other fuks my shiz up. I should just throw the damn thing out.
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Once I put in about ten+ lbs this past winter as weird as this sounds I had to start sleeping with my arms in a different position lol. It's not like I put on 60lbs of muscle. But as I grew I did have to position my arms different in bed lol
 
It's not a lot but getting my Dec started with a walk with the dogs in the dark and rain tonight


Goal is 930+ minutes in Dec. Next week I'm home with my wife all week post surgery so I will probably get some in.

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Dustin07 said:
Once I put in about ten+ lbs this past winter as weird as this sounds I had to start sleeping with my arms in a different position lol. It's not like I put on 60lbs of muscle. But as I grew I did have to position my arms different in bed lol
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So maybe I need to cycle pillows through. I’ll have a bulking pillow and a cutting pillow. Lmao

I freak my wife out when I sleep. I can sleep incredibly well on my back, but I will snore. Doesn’t wake me up but she will. Lol. I sleep in the “laid to rest in a coffin” position. That freaks her out too. Otherwise I look like I’m at a Pantera concert Circa 1998 killin it in the mosh pit!
 
Got my cardio caught up.
The walk down to the beach was so easy I wondered if it was worth it. The walk back up the hill had me huffing and puffing and sweating a bit, dogs are happy though. About 40f degrees this morning.


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Hyde said:
Forget that, the people really just want to see Kleen do the 10,000 calorie challenge on video! 🤣🤣🤣
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You supply me with the A5 Wagyu ribeyes for the day and I am in! I know I could do 10,000 grand on that, what would it be like 2lbs of that stuff. Basically 1.25lbs of fat there. LOL. Only a $1000 dollar day, but I could force it down. ;)
Dustin07 said:
Got my cardio caught up.
The walk down to the beach was so easy I wondered if it was worth it. The walk back up the hill had me huffing and puffing and sweating a bit, dogs are happy though. About 40f degrees this morning.


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It looks like your dogs want you to go faster! ;)
 
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