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Gaining muscles while losing fat. HGP tries the impossible, watch me fail!

hairygrandpa said:
Low volume would mean more weight. Nah, young grasshopper, my knees don't like it -and I had some trouble with sciatica recently too.
I always get to the burn. If nothing helps I do quick reps followed by slow-mos. At some point my eyes will fill with tears -the moment I know its enough. :)
I figured, bodybuilding is just masochistic overreaching, there is always one more rep, no matter if that means snot flying out of your nose or unsolicited moist farts.
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An old friends new girl was working out on the floor doing some girly ass/Legs workouts, you know where it looks like they are doing a photoshoot lol. Well I was behind doing some squats and as I go up I automatically look straight forward at her butt. It happened like two times and I didn't even mean to. I was just praying she didn't see it haha
 
Fasted said:
I really like the going until you "triggered the muscle" perpective. Yesterday i was doing some cardio training with friends and wanted to get a quick pump in. We did 3 sets to failure of both pushups and pullups. For whatever reason, i dont feel like i did my job...
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Its always the "how you do it", not how often (reps, sets), IMHO. Push ups I do with handles (lifting me 3 inch from the ground) and with legs on a bench. 3-4 sec lowering, explosive up for the first set, quick -almost jumping second set... done. Chest screams.
I count reps only when I have to post my workouts. Since I go mostly to failure anyway, it doesn't matter how many reps I did -or with what weight. Only if it takes too long I up weights. I swear, I hardly do bench press. If I do, mostly partials (bottom partials) with low-moderate weight. Push ups are my bench substitute. Every now and then I gauge my strength, like yesterday. My numbers are fine, even though I never trained with heavy weights. No idea if my intuitive approach works for others. For me its all about pushing the limit without going heavy, that is all.
 
ValiantThor08 said:
I hit each body part 2x per week. Been focusing on intensity over volume. Trying to engage the fast twitch.
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Chados said:
I do this and as long as nutrition is good and you don't lift stupidly you should grow better, that's my belief at least.
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Anything works as long as you train intense, I guess. I'm sure there are methods superior to others -but it gives me pleasure to be creative and go by intuition. Its a marathon anyways, why shooting for 100% gains in x amount of time when you can do your own thing and get to 80%.
 
ValiantThor08 said:
I hit each body part 2x per week. Been focusing on intensity over volume. Trying to engage the fast twitch.
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I do this now as well. Strongest ive ever been though was lifting once a week on some crazy volume and intensity, but was eating like a horse and looked like crap. Feel much better now and dont miss bigger weights much.
hairygrandpa said:
Its always the "how you do it", not how often (reps, sets), IMHO. Push ups I do with handles (lifting me 3 inch from the ground) and with legs on a bench. 3-4 sec lowering, explosive up for the first set, quick -almost jumping second set... done. Chest screams.
I count reps only when I have to post my workouts. Since I go mostly to failure anyway, it doesn't matter how many reps I did -or with what weight. Only if it takes too long I up weights. I swear, I hardly do bench press. If I do, mostly partials (bottom partials) with low-moderate weight. Push ups are my bench substitute. Every now and then I gauge my strength, like yesterday. My numbers are fine, even though I never trained with heavy weights. No idea if my intuitive approach works for others. For me its all about pushing the limit without going heavy, that is all.
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Yeah. Its wierd how one can know this but still get away from it from time to time. I think our bodies speak to us, we just arent taught to listen. I also think fasting and liftin help you make that connection and start understanding what your body is telling you. Drink a soda after a 3 day fast and act like you can't tell its terrible for you!
 
Fasted said:
I do this now as well. Strongest ive ever been though was lifting once a week on some crazy volume and intensity, but was eating like a horse and looked like crap. Feel much better now and dont miss bigger weights much. Yeah. Its wierd how one can know this but still get away from it from time to time. I think our bodies speak to us, we just arent taught to listen. I also think fasting and liftin help you make that connection and start understanding what your body is telling you. Drink a soda after a 3 day fast and act like you can't tell its terrible for you!
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Exactly! You put in words what I couldn't. That "connection with the body" -or beginning to understand what the body is "saying", was the single most outstanding experience the fasting gave me. The second was the realization that you don't need to fear muscle loss. Most guys forgot to take their creatine and get all paranoid about it...complete bullshit.
 
Fasting for a week mainly just gave me an appreciation for how spoiled we are in America - you can make very little money and still have access to & be able to afford hyper-palatable food anywhere, anytime.

It’s no wonder people get fat when our culture is both so food-oriented (not a bad thing to me) AND pre-prepared foods are so affordable and available people can choose them as staples in their diet, as opposed to rare treats.
 
Hyde said:
Fasting for a week mainly just gave me an appreciation for how spoiled we are in America - you can make very little money and still have access to & be able to afford hyper-palatable food anywhere, anytime.

It’s no wonder people get fat when our culture is both so food-oriented (not a bad thing to me) AND pre-prepared foods are so affordable and available people can choose them as staples in their diet, as opposed to rare treats.
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Also, dont eat for a while and more things start being quite palatable. To this day the best thing ive ever eaten was a single egg scrambled on pita bread with a glass of water. I ate it the night before a wrestling match after being a pound under the night before. Hadnt eaten for 4 days, hadn't drank in a day and a half. It was downright magical. Still remember it 17 years later. At the time i was thinking, "who knew an egg on pita was this good!!??" Its never been that good again.
 
Fasted said:
Also, dont eat for a while and more things start being quite palatable. To this day the best thing ive ever eaten was a single egg scrambled on pita bread with a glass of water. I ate it the night before a wrestling match after being a pound under the night before. Hadnt eaten for 4 days, hadn't drank in a day and a half. It was downright magical. Still remember it 17 years later. At the time i was thinking, "who knew an egg on pita was this good!!??" Its never been that good again.
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#chasingthedragon
 
hairygrandpa said:
Full body 3x week-but if I skip a body part, I do more sets of it the next day. Also not doing always 3 sets. IMHO, doing 3 sets is superstition, nothing gym related. I do an exercise until I feel "I triggered the muscle", like lactic acid build up --> failure + 1 more. If I'm less motivated -or wanna keep the workout short, I do only 1 set + 1-2 RP sets, this way, the muscle is on fire faster and I move on.
Sometimes with chest exercises, I have to do at least 4-5 exercises to get to the muscle and feel the burn where I want it to be. I figured legs are easier, just by controlling the speed I can stimulate them enough for growth, doing squats slowly with 90kg x 8-10 (roughly 200lbs) was enough to see some separation after a few weeks.
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I did a weird workout the other night for biceps, crazy volume. I started with the bar only for 12 super strict curls, then added 10 kilos, did 12 more, added 10 more kilos, did 12 more, then added increments of 5 kilos and kept doing this until I couldn't hit 12 then immediately made that last set a drop set until I was left with just the bar. Only did the on exercise, only trained biceps. Couldn't tell you how many total sets and reps I did but workout took 30 mins. Not practical for every muscle group but may work for lagging bodyparts or something. Biceps felt it the next day.
 
When are you planing on your next round of progress pics?
 
MrKleen73 said:
When are you planing on your next round of progress pics?
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After all extra glycogen retention from the DMZ/S-Drol is gone, just to show how I look when cruising.

Last time I had sex with my wife she said: "Since you have all that muscles, to me it feels like I'm cheating with another man."
Well, that means I made progress. :)
 
hairygrandpa said:
After all extra glycogen retention from the DMZ/S-Drol is gone, just to show how I look when cruising.

Last time I had sex with my wife she said: "Since you have all that muscles, to me it feels like I'm cheating with another man."
Well, that means I made progress. :)
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She was lovin’ the beef
 
hairygrandpa said:
After all extra glycogen retention from the DMZ/S-Drol is gone, just to show how I look when cruising.

Last time I had sex with my wife she said: "Since you have all that muscles, to me it feels like I'm cheating with another man."
Well, that means I made progress. :)
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Nice, I actually feel like taking a pic on the back side of a good carb load once the water comes off but the glycogen is still there is one of the most reliable ways to get a great pic. Are you planning to let yourself go flat and depleted, or just get the water off first?
 
MrKleen73 said:
Nice, I actually feel like taking a pic on the back side of a good carb load once the water comes off but the glycogen is still there is one of the most reliable ways to get a great pic. Are you planning to let yourself go flat and depleted, or just get the water off first?
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Water off, I guess I'm holding some. Next Monday, I'll take some pics.
 
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MrKleen73 said:
Nice, I actually feel like taking a pic on the back side of a good carb load once the water comes off but the glycogen is still there is one of the most reliable ways to get a great pic. Are you planning to let yourself go flat and depleted, or just get the water off first?
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I would love to do an anavar/proviron blast right now.... -but nah, have to watch my liver and cholesterol first.
 
I might end up joining you on your TBol adventure... Once I have the other things I am focusing on taken care of I will be ready to roll. That or some MSten... Depends on where I am at mentally, if still a bit stressed and moody I won't risk the MSten just yet. I can't even imagine the kind of rebound I am going to have once I focus back in after 5 months of just doing enough not to fall apart. A lot of my joints definitely feel better right now too. Hopefully I can catch up with you!
 
MrKleen73 said:
I might end up joining you on your TBol adventure... Once I have the other things I am focusing on taken care of I will be ready to roll. That or some MSten... Depends on where I am at mentally, if still a bit stressed and moody I won't risk the MSten just yet. I can't even imagine the kind of rebound I am going to have once I focus back in after 5 months of just doing enough not to fall apart. A lot of my joints definitely feel better right now too. Hopefully I can catch up with you!
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Tbol with proviron, as tbol lacks the androgenic part. I swear proviron is a game changer for most cycles.
 
I read somewhere that Tbol goes very well with testosterone, I would suggest something like 500-650mg/w test + 40-70mg/d tbol + 75mg/d proviron. All while recomping/lean bulking
 
Here some update pics. Cruising on 250mg/w test for 7 days now, all glycogen retention from orals is gone, water too.
Have to keep watching calorie intake.
Gonna switch training routine from full body to a split routine with cardio.

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Have not posted my last workouts. Nothing to report, doing my intuitive training. Focused more on chest and legs lately and when flexing, I can see some striations in upper chest -and more separation in quads.
Since I'm off the DMZ/S-drol, strength is down by about 15% -but I feel way better. Sadly, appetite got up, now curbing it with DMAA+ECA.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Nah, LOL. I just finished 6 weeks DMZ/S-drol. My liver is waving a white flag.
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You only need half it to survive AND it regrows!

But yeah I was more talking for future cuts down the road. Don’t need you dead cause you took a 6 week cycle of dmz and Msten on top of what you already took
 
ChocolateClen said:
You only need half it to survive AND it regrows!

But yeah I was more talking for future cuts down the road. Don’t need you dead cause you took a 6 week cycle of dmz and Msten on top of what you already took
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I may survive another oral cycle -but would look like that:

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Gym
Did a hellish workout today, focus on shoulders, traps and arms. Like snot flying out of my nose, grunting, whining, cursing, some tears and visible veins on forehead.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Here some update pics. Cruising on 250mg/w test for 7 days now, all glycogen retention from orals is gone, water too.
Have to keep watching calorie intake.
Gonna switch training routine from full body to a split routine with cardio.

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Looking good brother! Solid.
 
ValiantThor08 said:
Looking good brother! Solid.
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Hyde said:
It’s too bad I can’t just like this post. I approve this message.
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Wobmarvel said:
Do you wipe the snot off the dumbells when your done?
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Wobmarvel said:
Do you wipe the snot off the dumbells when your done?
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jtmass said:
He always leaves his mark in the gym..
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Thank you. Yes, I let the snot dry on the dumbbells. The 55lbs over time become 56lbs.
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Yesterday was "viernes de soltero" (Singles Friday). Its called this way here. All married man go out on Friday and are single for a day. Past the night dancing with 4 (four!) young ladies (students). I'm getting old, because I suddenly had fatherly feelings and found myself escorting them from the party to the bus, scaring away drunks (instead of having a possible 5-some) . Still punching my own face thinking of it. The good thing, no STD's for me -and a clean conscience.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Thank you. Yes, I let the snot dry on the dumbbells. The 55lbs over time become 56lbs.
:)
Yesterday was "viernes de soltero" (Singles Friday). Its called this way here. All married man go out on Friday and are single for a day. Past the night dancing with 4 (four!) young ladies (students). I'm getting old, because I suddenly had fatherly feelings and found myself escorting them from the party to the bus, scaring away drunks (instead of having a possible 5-some) . Still punching my own face thinking of it. The good thing, no STD's for me -and a clean conscience.
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What happens if your having the fivesome then it passes midnight? Are you then cheating on your wife?
 
hairygrandpa said:
Thank you. Yes, I let the snot dry on the dumbbells. The 55lbs over time become 56lbs.
:)
Yesterday was "viernes de soltero" (Singles Friday). Its called this way here. All married man go out on Friday and are single for a day. Past the night dancing with 4 (four!) young ladies (students). I'm getting old, because I suddenly had fatherly feelings and found myself escorting them from the party to the bus, scaring away drunks (instead of having a possible 5-some) . Still punching my own face thinking of it. The good thing, no STD's for me -and a clean conscience.
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Hmmmmmm....maybe I will buy that plane ticket!!
 
Wobmarvel said:
Should be fine cos the next day is "go find a guy with a bigger dick Saturday" for the ladies right?
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Haha! Nah. Here is "macho-landia". Women stay at home and smell good, that is their purpose. No special days for them.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Haha! Nah. Here is "macho-landia". Women stay at home and smell good, that is their purpose. No special days for them.
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That is mildly depressing, but I suppose a day where guys all pretend they aren’t married kind of is as well.

Glad you avoided the broccoli crotch!
 
hairygrandpa said:
Haha! Nah. Here is "macho-landia". Women stay at home and smell good, that is their purpose. No special days for them.
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That is mildly depressing, but I suppose a day where guys all pretend they aren’t married kind of is as well.

Glad you avoided the broccoli crotch!
 
hairygrandpa said:
Here some update pics. Cruising on 250mg/w test for 7 days now, all glycogen retention from orals is gone, water too.
Have to keep watching calorie intake.
Gonna switch training routine from full body to a split routine with cardio.

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Looking great HGP, way too many posts to catch up fully but whatever your doing is working brother. Are you still IF?
 
Whisky said:
Looking great HGP, way too many posts to catch up fully but whatever your doing is working brother. Are you still IF?
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Yes, sort of. Since I use insulin and sugar during workout, its not a 21/3 but a 19/5.
 
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