Its what we doWe may (or may not) have something in the final stages of production that will please you and be even more effective than what you've put together. :sly:
Its what we doWe may (or may not) have something in the final stages of production that will please you and be even more effective than what you've put together. :sly:
It isn't a topical, it'd be a skin firming lotion, we could just use old solution from supress c and add in some other ingredientsCouldnt do the ephedrine one and topicals can be a pain in the ass.
InterestingCan you guys make a single ingredient bulk Icariin 40% extract or higher? Perhaps 500mg capsules as part of your 501 line, bulk powder, or better yet both.
If any company would make a potent 40% icariin extract or higher bulk powder or capsulated product right now, they would literally have zero competition right now.Interesting
Livelong has a 50% extract but it's $$. It would be a good pick up for SNS though.If any company would make a potent 40% icariin extract or higher bulk powder or capsulated product right now, they would literally have zero competition right now.
LiveLong used to have a 50% extract. Then they changed to 40%. And then they discontinued it altogether. I was a big fan of their bulk icariin until they discontinued it. I used up my last bottle recently and am looking for alternatives, but it appears there are none to be found.Livelong has a 50% extract but it's $$. It would be a good pick up for SNS though.
I know it is an expensive extract, but it does have many benefits and can be effective on its own long term or combined with other ingredients for added synergy. This is why so many product base their prop blends on it or around it. It is also why other companies use low amount or an inferior quality extract in their product just so they can say this extract is part of the product. Unfortunatley most consumers don't know what specifically to look for when they are buying a horny goat weed extract (icariin) extract or products that contains it.Icarin sounds interesting, post some more convincing info about it please.
in general,forget if you want 50%...Icarin is pretty expensive .. I've never used it solo just in tboosters .. And have read alot of good things about it as well
:sadpanda:in general,forget if you want 50%...
Nice, some things to look into when i get back to the states, thanks, will rep when I get to a computer.I know it is an expensive extract, but it does have many benefits and can be effective on its own long term or combined with other ingredients for added synergy. This is why so many product base their prop blends on it or around it. It is also why other companies use low amount or an inferior quality extract in their product just so they can say this extract is part of the product. Unfortunatley most consumers don't know what specifically to look for when they are buying a horny goat weed extract (icariin) extract or products that contains it.
There are some awesome products that have a good amount of icariin at a very reasonable price such as DRIVE, RPM, STOKED, Post Cycle Support, PCT Assist, and etc. And while these are very good products, some people may not want, need, or might not be able to ingest the other added ingredients in the blend.
I hope you guys will take a serious look at the possibility of bringing a 40% Icariin or higher extract to market. Many threads on this at AM have referenced Icariin and the studies done on it. Also below are links to pubmed searches. The first three are as it relates to testosterone specifically and the link below is overall info and studies.
As it may relate to testosterone:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=icariin%20testosterone
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Erectogenic and neurotrophic effects of icariin, a purified extract of horny goat weed (Epimedium spp.) in vitro and in vivo.
Shindel AW, Xin ZC, Lin G, Fandel TM, Huang YC, Banie L, Breyer BN, Garcia MM, Lin CS, Lue TF.
J Sex Med. 2010 Apr;7(4 Pt 1):1518-28. Epub 2010 Feb 5.
PMID:20141584[PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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The testosterone mimetic properties of icariin.
Zhang ZB, Yang QT.
Asian J Androl. 2006 Sep;8(5):601-5. Epub 2006 Jun 5.
PMID:16751992[PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Free Article
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3.
Effects of icariin on erectile function and expression of nitric oxide synthase isoforms in castrated rats.
Liu WJ, Xin ZC, Xin H, Yuan YM, Tian L, Guo YL.
Asian J Androl. 2005 Dec;7(4):381-8.
PMID:16281085[PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Free Article
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In general:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=icariin
Id like to see something exotic and sort of trippy.The ultimate combo stack for brain development and nootropic chill supplements
start making spice lolId like to see something exotic and sort of trippy.
Well, maby a powder with some high dose extracts that made made me feel that way. Im sure if you took the right nootropic extracts and put them in a highly dosed scoop it could be a realy awsome product. In fact, new spices are useing extract technology were the chemicals have been banned. I hear those products are **** though. Wouldnt know.start making spice lol
Have you tried PEA?Well, maby a powder with some high dose extracts that made made me feel that way. Im sure if you took the right nootropic extracts and put them in a highly dosed scoop it could be a realy awsome product. In fact, new spices are useing extract technology were the chemicals have been banned. I hear those products are **** though. Wouldnt know.
PEA + Adrena-G = NiiiiiiiiiiiiiceHave you tried PEA?
This, saw an intriguing article on it a little bit ago. Want to see more...Green coffee bean extract
Your best bet is bulk ingredients then. When it comes to flavoring, sometimes it has to be done make thing palatable, let alone delicious.I would like to see non-artificial ingredients (dyes, sweeteners, flavors) in these great products.
I'd like to see a GDA although Agmatine does do quite well thereYour best bet is bulk ingredients then. When it comes to flavoring, sometimes it has to be done make thing palatable, let alone delicious.
x2!Green coffee bean extract
I would as well.I'd like to see a GDA although Agmatine does do quite well there
Just hard to compete with SS for how cheap it is...I would as well.
This!!Capped Na-R-ala. Perfect to stack with your capped agmatine and ALCAR...just saying.
Not gonna happen. It can't be done cost effectively and at a price point we can beat others with (Genova licensed Na-r-ALA anyway).Capped Na-R-ala. Perfect to stack with your capped agmatine and ALCAR...just saying.
Well that sux(Genova licensed Na-r-ALA anyway).
Would be one helluwa stack :thumbsup:yea, it'd be awsome. stack it with inibit e, and our daa.
I agree. I'd love to see it as part of our line-up, but sometimes we just can't do it.Well that sux
just because something is cheap doesnt mean it works betterJust hard to compete with SS for how cheap it is...
:woohoo:We've only have a couple more baseline ingreds coming out and after that it will primarilty be our kick *ss formulated Core series
I lold. Strong catI'd like to see a pheromone product using extract of Nom Z
Attracts heavy deadlifts and crazies?I'd like to see a pheromone product using extract of Nom Z
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ThisAn Anabeta type product..sj
Mostly the crazies.Attracts heavy deadlifts and crazies?
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