way to kill it Rosie.
Your friend is correct.A wiser, older friend of mine used to say "What I am today is the sum total of all of my yesterdays." This of course not only includes events but also my perception of them and more importantly my RESPONSE to them. Keep rocking it warrior!:biggthumpup:
Cheers, Jeffway to kill it Rosie.
Believe me, we ALL fall at some time or another. Just not all of us get back UP! But I WILL! I REFUSE to stay down!...Reevaluation has been done - indicated in post #249 under "Other Notes", David...Thank you for the confidence. NOT succeeding is NOT an option!!! Things have become far too IMPORTANT for that (not that they were ever NOT important to begin with)!We all stumble on our journey, the secret is not to fall. Dial it back in, take a step back re-evaluate and move forward. No sense looking backward when what it is that you want is up ahead. You will succeed I have absolutely no doubt
I second that emotion. Three years ago after a couple years of chronic pain in my forearm right at the bend of my elbow. I suffered a full distal bicep tendon rupture on the left side. It has made me re-evaluate training through pain, I like Mr Kleen train around it not through it. I figure better to lay off a couple months and let it heal, than to destroy it, repair it, and 12 months of rehab. It seems like a lot of down time to train around but it is no where near as much as if you do wreck something to the point of surgery. I turn 47 on Friday, its only going to become more important to allow for healing going forward.Wow long read to get caught up again. As always you are killing it in here. Reading your log make me feel like A wussy now. After the past 2 years that I have had with injuries and another shoulder surgery I am just to the point that I am trying to force myself into the mindset that I don't have to be full throttle all the time, as a matter of fact I need to be around 80-85% throttle with bursts of 95-100% to keep my body recovering as it should. I am just now getting a lot of the aches and pains back under control. For a long time I did what you do and push through it, if it couldn't stop me then it wasn't that bad of a problem. Now I recognize that if I pay attention and change things up when there is a part of me not performing or recovering as it should I can cut some of the issues off before they become chronic or semi chronic.
I learned my lesson ofter this last surgery, the issue with the lateral head of my left quad, and my chronic issues with my elbows for 2 years, all taught me a lot about the over 35 version of me. Alternatively, the issue with the back of my knee recently has been the biggest testament to training around something and allowing it to heal. The quad issue on my left side is a year older and took longer to heal up than this one did because I kept trying to push through my quad issue instead of modifying my workouts when it began.
Anyway not so much comparing my experience with yours but you will definitely find as you age that you will need more recovery time and have to unfortunately make quick adjustments in order to keep things from becoming chronic quickly. I have never had the same drive you do, or I would have been a champion at something for sure.
You're FAR from "wussy", Chris! Yes, that is a very hard mindset to change, and believe me, I KNOW what you're talking about, as I struggle with it as well, and it takes a LOT for me to even "allow" myself to do this and go easier, because my mind still sees it as an "excuse". I've always had "aches and pains" and just ignored them, but after last year I finally realized that ignoring them is not always the best thing to do. I WILL continue to push through, because if I don't and go too much easier, I may as well just say "I've given up on living", because in all seriousness that IS the effect it will have on my body after not too long (one reason why time out from training is so very hard for me) - I know, training is very much a DOUBLE-EDGED sword for my body.Wow long read to get caught up again. As always you are killing it in here. Reading your log make me feel like A wussy now. After the past 2 years that I have had with injuries and another shoulder surgery I am just to the point that I am trying to force myself into the mindset that I don't have to be full throttle all the time, as a matter of fact I need to be around 80-85% throttle with bursts of 95-100% to keep my body recovering as it should. I am just now getting a lot of the aches and pains back under control. For a long time I did what you do and push through it, if it couldn't stop me then it wasn't that bad of a problem. Now I recognize that if I pay attention and change things up when there is a part of me not performing or recovering as it should I can cut some of the issues off before they become chronic or semi chronic.
I learned my lesson ofter this last surgery, the issue with the lateral head of my left quad, and my chronic issues with my elbows for 2 years, all taught me a lot about the over 35 version of me. Alternatively, the issue with the back of my knee recently has been the biggest testament to training around something and allowing it to heal. The quad issue on my left side is a year older and took longer to heal up than this one did because I kept trying to push through my quad issue instead of modifying my workouts when it began.
Anyway not so much comparing my experience with yours but you will definitely find as you age that you will need more recovery time and have to unfortunately make quick adjustments in order to keep things from becoming chronic quickly. I have never had the same drive you do, or I would have been a champion at something for sure.
There is "good" pain and "bad" pain, and I have learnt to "ease up" when the pain is the latter, doing what I can so that I can keep making progress. Yes, I know what you mean, but my body canNOT afford that kind of time out - even a period as "little" as 1-2 weeks has DETRIMENTAL effects on my physiological function - so I HAVE to work WITH it.I second that emotion. Three years ago after a couple years of chronic pain in my forearm right at the bend of my elbow. I suffered a full distal bicep tendon rupture on the left side. It has made me re-evaluate training through pain, I like Mr Kleen train around it not through it. I figure better to lay off a couple months and let it heal, than to destroy it, repair it, and 12 months of rehab. It seems like a lot of down time to train around but it is no where near as much as if you do wreck something to the point of surgery. I turn 47 on Friday, its only going to become more important to allow for healing going forward.
I know some one who will be buying a calendar!!!!
One of OAMG's 2012 calendars? CoolI know some one who will be buying a calendar!!!! Awesome work Roise. I still feel you on the sleep. It's just so rare these days.
The sauna, spa, and pool are at the hotel, JeffI second that. Now on another note I would love to have a sauna, jacuzzi or a swimming pool at my gym. For as much as I would love to train with Rosie, I just have this weird feeling that she would kick my butt to hell and back. But then again I might like that. LMAO... Rosie you are the bomb I will get in contact with you soon and talk to you about Cathie aka chevy6s chick.
One of OAMG's 2012 calendars? Cool
Thanks, Tommy. Yeah, it settled for a while and now after the G8, was all over the place, and now in charts unknown. It needs to get back on schedule though - I'm asking for much: 3-5 hours UNinterrupted, waking at 0330 in the morning!
The sauna, spa, and pool are at the hotel, JeffAnd I guess it's about time I actually started utilizing some INactive recovery aside from stretching, since my body REALLY needs it, and I know in the past when I did it, I felt and was so much better!
As a trainer, it's my job to kick your "butt to hell and back", LOL - after all, progress is the name of the game and sometimes pain comes along for the ride
No worries re Cathie
And HAPPY BIRTHDAY for today, Jeff! I hope you have an AWESOME one!!!resent:
~Rosie~
Happy Birthday mine is tomorrow. Good morning Rosie keep that chin upthank you
You're welcomethank you
Keeping it up. And GROWLING, LOL. It was a good day training and I realized something too in the gym (coming in my update later)...I know you're going to ENJOY those days off work. Each and every gym is an experience - might take you a little longer, since not everything is always in the expected place, but you'll have fun...ENJOY IT!!!...Good morning Rosie keep that chin upIf I can just make it through this day, then 4 days off in a row, but of course I shall be working out each and every one, in a strange gym but with lots of carbs and calories...should be a wash.
Hey you! Nice to see you hereLate but made my way over. Interested to see what you're doing now and how you respond to it.
I remember the difficulties you were having but also the success with the calendar and such. Having that healthy focus is great!Hey you! Nice to see you hereAfter everything that happened last year, I'm doing things quite differently now - for the most part, training re what I discovered worked for me when I restarted training after refracturing my left wrist re gains, etc., and adapting to the changes my body has been going through the last few months. It's important that the focus is more on my health than anything else, since it's one area I need to take care of, and if I do, I know everything else will follow.
~Rosie~
Like Doug said, "lets get Fuggin Freaky!!" LOLlol love it freaking love it. Isn't anything like getting all Hulk up in the gym. I love it when people are like wth are they mad at lol. It's just us being intense and loving the pain!!!
Yeah, the calendar turned out greatI remember the difficulties you were having but also the success with the calendar and such. Having that healthy focus is great!
LOL Steve - fortunately, the low recovery times and high intensity means it's EASIER for me to breathe DURING the day!I'm out of breathe just reading your workouts lol.
I had sleep issues like yours for about 3 months, 7 years ago. Tried like hell to kick the problem but sleeping meds were the only answer.
Cheers, Johnkeep up the good work Rosie. your very motivational and a hard worker and I like that.
I agree with truthornothing, a person must back off at times and learn when they can train hard(your body will let you know)
like that Kenny rogers song youve got to know when to fold them and when to roll (I think thats hows it goes Ive never heard it but someone told me the words to it)
Well, usually only one at 0330 to wake up and another at 0430 to let me know it's time to go for my run, but since my sleeping patterns have been so bung lately, I'm setting more alarms to try and get up at the right time. As it is, last night I slept from ~2000-2319 and now are wide awake, so you can see just how screwed up they are...Yes, a LITTLE break. After last year though, I've figured that even a complete week off resistance training ONLY (i.e. still doing 3-6 days re 20 minutes of cardio) is DETRIMENTAL for my body and a "week off" has to include at least 4-5 days of training inclusive of 1-2 resistance sessions. Takes me back to my cycling days, when I would have ~2 weeks off training ALL year! I need to be like THAT again - although a "week off" after every 16-20 weeks now will be ok (which turns out to about the same)...Good night 3 alarms!!! I thought I was the only one that did that lol. Good workouts again girl and yeah I agree we can push very hard, but eventually we all gota take a little break. Key word little lol. I know some that will say 2 weeks is a break. I can't go that long. Two days off if feeling crappy is the most I can go.
This is music to my ears, I sometimes get a little worried that you push yourself too hard, well I think it's a fact that you do in fact, lets not mix words. Using a little caution and wisdom is something that has helped me tremendously. I am the oldest out of all of us I think but I spend the least amount of time injured. I still push myself to the brink but, I have better awareness of where the brink is and less stuborn about pushing beyond it. I still think we have to be on the edge, I just don't think we should be going beyond it too much if you get my drift.Cheers, John![]()
It definitely does indeed - believe me, I KNOW! Doesn't mean I don't like to push the limits though - just getting a little wiser and maybe a little more "cautious" (since it seems to break easily now) as I get older...
~Rosie~
You're very sweet, but you don't need to worry about me, DougThis is music to my ears, I sometimes get a little worried that you push yourself too hard, well I think it's a fact that you do in fact, lets not mix words. Using a little caution and wisdom is something that has helped me tremendously. I am the oldest out of all of us I think but I spend the least amount of time injured. I still push myself to the brink but, I have better awareness of where the brink is and less stuborn about pushing beyond it. I still think we have to be on the edge, I just don't think we should be going beyond it too much if you get my drift.
Another big difference between you and I is you say you have to train, I say I love to train... but I have to too I supposeso it's a good thing I love too lol... One way we are very similar is we get so much from bringing this joy to others... I love changing peoples lives and surrounding myself with positive people. I hope you are finding the same joy in your training as the people you help and are taking time out of you're day to feell good about yourself cuz you are beautiful inside and out for what you do and how you look. Happy easter
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Thanks, Chris. Yeah, I have more "free" time now, since I've been working from where I live for the last few weeks, so doesn't matter too much when I wake up, but it does for ME, since I LIKE to be on a STRUCTURED SCHEDULE AND ROUTINE, since that's the way I am best operational and functional.Wow, just got caught back up. Nice and honest review of G8, my only complaint about G8 was having an extremely hard time waking up the next day. Since the ONLY time I have to workout is in the morning accidentally snoozing the alarm too long or turning it off became a bit too easy for me, and getting up just got harder. Now I use it when i really need some sleep but if I take more than a half scoop it is hit or miss on me getting up at 3:50AM the next morning.
Rosie, have you given any thought to your knees hurting due to low estrogen levels from the ERASE Pro? It just occurred to me while reading about your complaints and then you mentioning getting ready to start your 3rd bottle of it.
I'm sure you haven't done as much damage as the last four weeks have done to me (yes, somehow a few days turned into a few WEEKS - so very DISAPPOINTED in myself and mentally beating myself literally as much as a male thinks about sex every day, if not MORE!). I need to. not just need - I MUST. I have TWO weeks left and a LONG way to go to where I want to be, or where I will be happy with where I'm at. Got some serious haulin' to do, so bustin' ass coming right up!I just came back from a week long food fest for my birthday. Really muddied up my abs. Had trouble stopping the cheat today but slowed it down. Tomorrow should have it under control. I know you can get your diet situation back under control. You are much more dedicated than I.
Regarding your joints. You may want to try hot and cold therapy on your joints a little more directly. The Russians were fans of this. Ice the affected area 20 minutes and then wait 20 minutes and apply heat. Repeat as often as needed. It really helped my elbows. Slin-Sane and DCP Works for me in the Nutrient repartioner arena.
Cheers, Steve!When I was playing ball I'd use Absorbent Jr. It's green liquid and smells like menthol and rubbing alcohol but worked great for my joint problems.
Just a suggestion...
Rosie.....you're going senile lol, that's not my name. Smh lolCheers, Steve!
~Rosie~
My apologies, BILL. You can tell I was tired or distracted when I replied (not that it's any excuse).Rosie.....you're going senile lol, that's not my name. Smh lol
Lol it's all good! To be honest I still don't know how you function between your workouts and sleep patterns. Props to you!My apologies, BILL. You can tell I was tired or distracted when I replied (not that it's any excuse).
Hope you have a great day, bud!
~Rosie~
No, not all at once (maybe I should have clarified that) - I'd likely stay under if I did that (believe me, I have been tempted). I hold my breath as long as I can (usually 30-60 seconds), surface and go straight back down again...The running though I am used to...Now to put that "strength of mind" to practice, since it's been four weeks now that I've been OFF the wagon re Lean Gains 16-hour fast/8-hour feeding window (the first time since I first started utilizing that protocol last May), and it has NOT been kind on my body, reaffirming that it's definitely what makes me FEEL (and look) the best!...Hope our day is going wellWow 4 minutes under water, as in at once? I didn't even know that was possible. The strength of your mind is amazing Rosie. Some of the unthinkable things you do just amaze me. Running 7 miles in under 35 minutes is pretty darn amazing too.
Training is fine. The sleeping patterns need to stop being like that though. I can operate on pretty much anything, but I PREFER (and function best) when I am getting up at 0330, training "first thing", and going to be between 2130-2230 and getting 4-5 hours of sleep.Lol it's all good! To be honest I still don't know how you function between your workouts and sleep patterns. Props to you!
Recompadrol should be out in the next 8 weeks.MOTIVATIONAL QUOTE OF THE DAY
"Each day is a chance to draw closer to the heart of God, improve our character, discover and fulfill our life's purpose, trust, have faith, mature. The more you realize that it's not about you, but about what you have to give and giving it, allowing His glory to manifest through you, trying to make a difference and be a blessing to others, that you can come to understand." - Rosie Chee
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TRAINING
Tuesday
Session 1
Run 7 miles @ 4.9 min/mile pace
Stretch 20 min
Session 2
Skip x 1,000 revolutions
Arms/Abs (30 sec recovery between trisets):
TriSet A -
1. Close-Grip BB Bicep Curls 4 x 6
2. Dips 4 x 6
3. Skip 4 x 100 revolutions
TriSet B -
4. Incline Alternate DB Bicep Curls 4 x 8 per side
5. V-Bar Tricep Push-Down 4 x 6
6. Skip 4 x 100 revolutions
TriSet C -
7. Cable Bicep Curls (each hand with individual handle) 4 x 10, 10, 8, 8
8. Push-Ups (feet on floor, hands fists under chest) 4 x 10
9. Skip 4 x 100 revolutions
TriSet D -
10. Weighted DB Crunch (on bench, knees at 90 degrees) 4 x 10
11. Pikes (on bench) 4 x 15
12. Skip 4 x 100 revolutions
Post-Weights Cardio:
CrossTrainer 10 min
Post-Weights Cardio:
Recline Bike 10 min @ 102-106 rpm
A little backwards - "pm cardio" done in the morning and vice versa. Found myself a nice 7-mile loop of rolling terrain and ran it. Not extremely humid or muggy like it has been, which was a welcome relief. Just set out and ran. Knees were ok for the most part, until the last stretch on the highway, but it was manageable pain...Got back from the run and it was straight into the sauna for 25 minutes, before heading out to the pool. Extended the time, holding myself under the water for ~3 minutes, wanting the calm instead of the terrible confusion and pain. Gasping for breath, it was into the spa to "massage" my legs for a few minutes each, before heading back up to my room...I almost put off going to the gym until Wednesday because my shoulders were aching badly, but I went anyway, and glad I did. My mood was foul when I walked in and remained that way for most of my session honestly, but by the time I walked out, I felt better (albeit not for long, since it was straight into a binge - seriously need to STOP that, because times like that my mind was protesting it and I didn't even really want or enjoy what I ate, but kept shovelling anything and everything in anyway! But, enough of that)...Started off skipping, just mindlessly counting the revolutions. Surprisingly, my knees were ok during this - left wrist was aching a little though (yes, strapped up again)...Once that was done, set myself up for weights. After yesterday's session, I was prepared not to be able to do as many reps or even have to drop my weights for some exercises, but I didn't for Close-Grip BB Biceps Curls, instead working through the pain for less reps at the same weight as last week - last two reps on the last two sets were very slow and excruciating on my left wrist. Which didn't help my Dips - I went lower than usual, albeit not as slow as usual, feeling it in my left shoulder in particular and dull aching in my left wrist. Skipping for the end of each TriSet A was just done. I stayed with the same weight for Incline Alternate DB Bicep Curls as last week, and was back to doing what I could the week before that (although that was with a lighter weight than this), struggling a lot with my left side on the last few reps each time of it, and the last set, I actually had to pause for several moments to "allow" for the pain. INcreased the weight for V-Bar Tricep Push-Downs and did the same number of reps as last week. Favouring left knee severely during the skipping portion of TriSet B, wincing on every landing of my left foot. Instead of torturing my left wrist with DB Zottoman Curls, I swapped it out for Cable Bicep Curls, albeit as I have with Seated Cable Row, using INDIVIDUAL handles for each hand - was an effort and if I am going to continue doing these, really need to focus on keeping my elbows TIGHT against my waist. With my left wrist already in pain, swapped out the DB French Press for Push-Ups - first couple of sets I actually did with handles under me, but I wasn't able to go low enough, my bust hitting the handles, so went to doing them on my fists on the floor for the last two sets, and believe me, I FELT them. Skipping during TriSet C was a little faster than it had been prior in the session, just to get it over and done with. Weighted Crunches I did fewer reps, albeit same weight as last week, feeling it really "dig" into my right shoulder. Pikes were welcome after that. Skipping getting faster...Since the Recline Bike was being used when I finished, did 10 minutes on the CrossTrainer until it was free and then move to the former. Body just felt blah, and my pace was not the best...
Wednesday
Elliptical 20 min
Stretch 20 min
Didn't fall asleep until after I SHOULD have gotten up, sleeping for ~8 hours though. Again, training "backwards" re sessions today and I am going to go add in a fifth resistance session this week (to punish myself for not being able to get my nutrition disciplined AND take my mind off disturbing and depressing things)...Anyways, did 20 minutes on the Elliptical downstairs - really feeling it in my glutes and quads, which is NOT a good sign (I canNOT have them GROW!)...Then 25 minutes in the sauna. Out to the pool, forcing just over four minutes under the water this time. In fact, the longer I was under, the easier it became to stay under, which was interesting, and I just wanted to STAY there (my lungs said otherwise, LOL). Leg "massage" in the spa, finishing off with a random "why not?" minute holding myself under...
OTHER NOTES
Supplements (changes reflected in post #1)
Finished my bottle of Adipose Annihilation V2 yesterday and my last bottle of AnaBeta today. Going to miss my AnaBeta - running out of Recompadrol AND this means I have NO nutrient repartitioners, which is NOT good for me (might have to get something fast). I'll also be out of Alpha-T2 on Friday, so I had better pick up my A-game with everything ELSE (specifically NUTRITION)!
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"Coming up"? You mean fallen off the wagon entirely the last four weeks - that would be putting it mildly, although, that said, I only gained for the middle two of those weeks, so we'll see what damage has been done come the weekend when I get everything measured and tested (hoping if I work had the next couple of days, it will have gone DOWN)...When it comes to everything BUT nutrition, I am as disciplined as hell, but for some reason, when it comes to that I am just not - maybe because I have "gotten away" with eating what I want when I want for so long, or because my body's physiology is so screwed up that it lets me, but whatever the case, I know for my HEALTH it cannOT continue...I kind of figured you were coming up but then I have heard of some people who can actually control themselves enough and slow their bodies down enough to do that kind of thing. I figured if anyone I knew could use mind over matter to get the job done you were up there in that group for sure. Yeah the 16/8 is just so forgiving and feels natural too me now.
That's a lifetime, Zach! LOL Yeah, I'm not a fan of being off one - just ordered some DCP (with more Alpha-T2), so hoping it is here no later than Monday!Recompadrol should be out in the next 8 weeks.
i duno how id feel to be out of a partioner, havent been off rdrol in over 3 years, and before then was anabolic pump and glycobol, and insulean K
No not at all, I meant coming up for air in the pool."Coming up"? You mean fallen off the wagon entirely the last four weeks - that would be putting it mildly, although, that said, I only gained for the middle two of those weeks, so we'll see what damage has been done come the weekend when I get everything measured and tested (hoping if I work had the next couple of days, it will have gone DOWN)...When it comes to everything BUT nutrition, I am as disciplined as hell, but for some reason, when it comes to that I am just not - maybe because I have "gotten away" with eating what I want when I want for so long, or because my body's physiology is so screwed up that it lets me, but whatever the case, I know for my HEALTH it cannOT continue...
~Rosie~
OH LOL GotchaNo not at all, I meant coming up for air in the pool.Was definitely not referring to your current shape. Heck, even in your "bad shape" you are in better shape than 99.9% of the people out there.
agreed. how you been Mckleen?No not at all, I meant coming up for air in the pool.Was definitely not referring to your current shape. Heck, even in your "bad shape" you are in better shape than 99.9% of the people out there.
Chris is running a log if you want to follow, John: [url=http://anabolicminds.com/forum/applied-nutriceuticals/196900-kleen-gets-lean.html]KLEEN gets Lean with Fat Free! An App-Nut Sponsored Log[/url]agreed. how you been Mckleen?
keep up the good work Rosie your such an inspiration
Cheers, TommyAweome post yet again for the Queen of the forums!!! I admire your running skills!!!
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