Get INTIMIDATEd With Tomahawk

oli said:
staggering sounds cool - once i tried 1 full cap in AM, half another cap around 3pm and the other half about 90 mins later..

man, i was up 'til like 2-3 A.M.

strong stuff, not too overwhelming either (no jitters,stim'd out feeling)

am gonna try 1/2 cap 3x throughout the day
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I would be interested to hear when you would dose and how it went for you.

So here comes some of my personal stuff. Had a scare with my 92 yr old grandma. She lives at an assisted living place. They called and said she had to go to the hospital but weren't sure what happened. Said they think it might be a stroke. Not know was terrible especially just sitting in the waiting area. Turns out it is a urinary tract infection. It really scared me because last dr appt I took her to she walked extremely slow and needed my more than usual to stay up.

Alright sorry for that but I love my grandma.

Tonight using the cpap machine again. Will start the Intimidate tomorrow. Can't wait to get this started.
 
Wow...92!! I can only imagine the life she has lived and the world that has changed for her. Thoughts are with you guys.
 
AZMIDLYF said:
Wow...92!! I can only imagine the life she has lived and the world that has changed for her. Thoughts are with you guys.
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Ya she is a pretty amazing old lady. Took care of me quite a bit growing up. She is definitely a reason for some of the good in me.

StakedCop said:
Hope everything is ok with your grandma brosef!
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Thanks man and I appreciate it guys. It is always rough thinking about her, but so much worse not knowing what is going on.

Tonight will be my first night dosing Intimidate. Anxious to put it to the test. Plus a new workout will be fun. Will post up the exercises I picked out later.

Dexaprine note: I took a full cap today and it feels a little smoother so far. Took it 4 hours ago and I feel it a little less than half a cap. I am guessing it has to do with the coating on the pill. So it isnt hitting as fast and hard which is nice. Still feeling it just in a more subtle way.
 
Nice I always felt like Dexa had some kind of time release so maybe there are different coatings within the pill allowing it to release throughout the day. I feel it in waves every 2 hourse or so it seems to renew itself. If that is the case breaking it in half would definitely begin to release from each of the coatings at once.
 
ok i am late to the party but i am here now. Which mask do you have for the cpap machine. I used to use one until I had my tonsils taken out.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Nice I always felt like Dexa had some kind of time release so maybe there are different coatings within the pill allowing it to release throughout the day. I feel it in waves every 2 hourse or so it seems to renew itself. If that is the case breaking it in half would definitely begin to release from each of the coatings at once.
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Ya I recall someone(maybe an IForce rep) saying something about breaking it in half to get it to kick in faster. I only did it to get less of a dose which ended up kind of being the opposite lol. It was felt fast and strong.

Onlychevy6 said:
ok i am late to the party but i am here now. Which mask do you have for the cpap machine. I used to use one until I had my tonsils taken out.
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Thanks for joining and no tardiness yet. The fun doesnt start till tonight with the first dose of Intimidate.

I have a nose mask. Thinking I will take a pic of it to post up. I keep waking up with it off haha.

MidwestBeast said:
In to follow along.
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Dang I am going to feel bad if I didnt give HS a personal invite. Digging the verse in the sig.
 
Tomahawk88, u ever think about surgery to correct ur sleep apnea?

i used to be an MA for a couple E.N.T. Dr's and a lot of the patients i talked to hated the CPAP machines



..hope all is well, man
 
oli said:
Tomahawk88, u ever think about surgery to correct ur sleep apnea?

i used to be an MA for a couple E.N.T. Dr's and a lot of the patients i talked to hated the CPAP machines

..hope all is well, man
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Ehh haven't given it too much though. The doctor didn't bring it up. Plus I just found out and they said it was mild. That said the first sleep study I had without the machine I didn't sleep much. Wasn't tired and I had MURDERED my legs that day. They hurt so bad it made it hard to sleep especially hooked up to wires.

Thanks man appreciate it. To say the least the last few months have been interesting health wise for my family.
 
Tomahawk88 said:
Ehh haven't given it too much though. The doctor didn't bring it up. Plus I just found out and they said it was mild. That said the first sleep study I had without the machine I didn't sleep much. Wasn't tired and I had MURDERED my legs that day. They hurt so bad it made it hard to sleep especially hooked up to wires.

Thanks man appreciate it. To say the least the last few months have been interesting health wise for my family.
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You will find there are many type of masks out there. When I first got the machine it came with the style that covers your nose kinda like a nut cup when you play sports. I eventually changed it out to the one that has like a j hook on it and only connects to the nostrils. It was like a head band with piece that went down the bridge of your nose that was adjustable. It was so much nicer and slept much better. You didn't hear the sound of air when try to sleep like you do with the nose mask.


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Onlychevy6 said:
You will find there are many type of masks out there. When I first got the machine it came with the style that covers your nose kinda like a nut cup when you play sports. I eventually changed it out to the one that has like a j hook on it and only connects to the nostrils. It was like a head band with piece that went down the bridge of your nose that was adjustable. It was so much nicer and slept much better. You didn't hear the sound of air when try to sleep like you do with the nose mask.


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Ya I have the nose cup one lol. Didnt like the feel of the "nose pillows" and that is pretty much what they offered me. Said I could get a different one, but hasnt been an issue so far.

toughchick401 said:
Im in.....:)
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Glad to see you join Heidi.

AZMIDLYF said:
That's what he said! Sorry, I had to go there... ^_^
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:rofl:

So I took Intimidate last night. Obviously too soon to tell. One thing to note is I might not like all the 1,3 dim I am taking combined. Dont think I need to go too much into detail there.

Just took my first dose of MaximizeV2. Wasnt sure how much water to use so I just mixed it with my scoop of Hemavol. Tasted great together and it feels like I am already starting to feel the stim.

Today will be legs so if I dont make it back you know why. Today should be hell. I am not a volume kind of guy. This will probably be as many sets as I was doing in a week on my old workout.

Also I am HORRIBLE at pacing myself. Makes me a terrible runner. Plus all these sets where I am supposed to use a submaximal effort just doesnt sync up with what I was made to do.
 
The only way to describe tonight workout is: EPIC FAIL

I am not big on the whole volume thing especially for legs. My legs seem to hate it. I ended up getting sick. I overheated and my body's reaction was to cool off, but it was already cold in the gym so I felt worse. Tried to lay down and just wait it out but it didnt help. My head was a mess and I felt like I was going to puke. Doesnt feel like a productive day to me.

So with that said I hope IForce doesnt mind me changing my leg workout. I tried but it just isnt going to work for me. Will switch to a Dorian Yates style of training for legs at least.

Felt great going to the gym. Leaving the gym I was lucky I made it home.
 
Tomahawk88 said:
The only way to describe tonight workout is: EPIC FAIL

I am not big on the whole volume thing especially for legs. My legs seem to hate it. I ended up getting sick. I overheated and my body's reaction was to cool off, but it was already cold in the gym so I felt worse. Tried to lay down and just wait it out but it didnt help. My head was a mess and I felt like I was going to puke. Doesnt feel like a productive day to me.

So with that said I hope IForce doesnt mind me changing my leg workout. I tried but it just isnt going to work for me. Will switch to a Dorian Yates style of training for legs at least.

Felt great going to the gym. Leaving the gym I was lucky I made it home.
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Ah if you are puking your guts out you didn't work out hard enough. LMAO...
 
Are you presently doing any cardiovascular work, Tom? You're gonna need more endurance for those high-volume workouts.
And besides, being only strong without being in real shape is not a worthwhile goal.
 
Meh, there was something in the air yesterday. I had all kinds of fail at the gym as well.

Today is gonna be better
 
Tomahawk88 said:
The only way to describe tonight workout is: EPIC FAIL

I am not big on the whole volume thing especially for legs. My legs seem to hate it. I ended up getting sick. I overheated and my body's reaction was to cool off, but it was already cold in the gym so I felt worse. Tried to lay down and just wait it out but it didnt help. My head was a mess and I felt like I was going to puke. Doesnt feel like a productive day to me.

So with that said I hope IForce doesnt mind me changing my leg workout. I tried but it just isnt going to work for me. Will switch to a Dorian Yates style of training for legs at least.

Felt great going to the gym. Leaving the gym I was lucky I made it home.
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Try to modify the leg workout to fit your style of lifting. No sense in doing something if it's not working for you.
 
Onlychevy6 said:
Ah if you are puking your guts out you didn't work out hard enough. LMAO...
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Haha I need to take a pic of my gym's squat rack. Has a sticker that says "squat till you puke" haha.

thundergod said:
Are you presently doing any cardiovascular work, Tom? You're gonna need more endurance for those high-volume workouts.
And besides, being only strong without being in real shape is not a worthwhile goal.
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Not in particular but I plan on changing that. About to do some cardio now. Always keeping me in line thanks big guy.

napalm said:
Meh, there was something in the air yesterday. I had all kinds of fail at the gym as well.

Today is gonna be better
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Ya got to keep getting better everyday.

StakedCop said:
Try to modify the leg workout to fit your style of lifting. No sense in doing something if it's not working for you.
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Well I feel it today so there is something to say about that. I HATE leg pumps because they are so debilitating for me. Will probably be worthless for a few days now haha.

VaughnTrue said:
Do what works. No point switching everything while u run a new product.
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Thanks, I think it is one of those I hate it, but I know it is good for me. 1 of the 1st times I was at my physique peak I was lifting with a bodybuilder and doing similar amount of volume. I hated it then but got through it.

More than anything I think it was a perfect storm. This weather plus doing that kind of volume for the 1st time in a while. My gym doesnt have someone there working to mess with the thermostat so it can get cold. I overheat and my body tries to cool itself off but it is already so cold. Guess I will have to get a beanie or something to keep the body heat.
 
honestly might be the dexaprine that overheated you as well....

I know that I was MUCH more susceptible to overheating and feeling sick when I was on my OEP/AT2 stack and that I had to switch my second dose to post workout cause it would just ruin it everytime... especially legs though... doing a volume based leg day can make you sick as it is... maybe skip the dex on those days or run the half a cap so its gone by the time your in the gym....
 
Sourdough said:
honestly might be the dexaprine that overheated you as well....

I know that I was MUCH more susceptible to overheating and feeling sick when I was on my OEP/AT2 stack and that I had to switch my second dose to post workout cause it would just ruin it everytime... especially legs though... doing a volume based leg day can make you sick as it is... maybe skip the dex on those days or run the half a cap so its gone by the time your in the gym....
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I knew I invited you for a reason haha.

Was quite a bit of stims that day. With the Dexaprine and Maximize. I have had this problem before and the culprit seemed to be it being cold. Because I can do squats just fine, but when it is cold it just messes with me. Started working out in a flannel shirt and a hat. Finally just left that place.
 
Yeah... I always start with more clothing on and wind up in a tank... lol...

I have started just going in to the gym, even if its cold, and if Im doing deads or squats that day I just straight up dont wear too many clothes cause Im going to warmup fast and reach overheating way too quickly.... Other days Ill shed it as I need to...

keeping your core temp low is really crucial for making sure you dont feel like crap after a couple exercises... and if your on some stims thats going to happen VERY easily... gotta be preemptive with your temp control, cause its not easy to play catch up once you already reach a certain point.
 
huh??? whats that mean??? not diggin the dex???
 
Sourdough said:
huh??? whats that mean??? not diggin the dex???
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Not that at all. Just had a friend text me asking if I had any extra supplements I wanted to sell.

Resolve said:
aloha brothers. Looking good in here Tom. 'Cept for the getting sick part. That won't do. No more of that man. :D
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Nice to see you join Nick. Ya I think I might have it figured out. Either that or I will just throw up and leave a note for Dino saying my bad. Ya my gym's owner is named Dino haha.

Change of plans for todays work out schedule. Just going to do my cardio today. Then tomorrow will do cardio and then later do chest/biceps. Bad thing about trying to workout with others. I think I have it figured out though.
 
Tomahawk88 said:
Not that at all. Just had a friend text me asking if I had any extra supplements I wanted to sell.



Nice to see you join Nick. Ya I think I might have it figured out. Either that or I will just throw up and leave a note for Dino saying my bad. Ya my gym's owner is named Dino haha.

Change of plans for todays work out schedule. Just going to do my cardio today. Then tomorrow will do cardio and then later do chest/biceps. Bad thing about trying to workout with others. I think I have it figured out though.
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Yea working out in a group is kinda hard. I got like 5-6 people I hit the gym with on saturdays. I usually have to find other things to do while I wait. Things end up being giant sets for me... But Im sure you got it all under control :D
 
i feel like crap too when i get too hot while i'm working out. Feeling hot & sweating = bad performance for me. I've come to appreciate the value of hydrating properly before exercising - especially when running something like Dexaprine. I'm feeling hot and a bit sweaty as it is just sitting here (dosed 1 cap ~30 mins ago).
 
Sorry to hear about your crappy leg day.

If it makes you feel any better, I had one of the best workouts ever yesterday and hit a PR too. I left the gym with a crazy full body pump and insane vascularity that lasted hours, and was accompanied with an overwhelmingly high appetite.
Lol :)
 
mattrag said:
Yea working out in a group is kinda hard. I got like 5-6 people I hit the gym with on saturdays. I usually have to find other things to do while I wait. Things end up being giant sets for me... But Im sure you got it all under control :D
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Umm if I went to lift with 5-6 people I would kill someone haha. 3 people is the most I would want in a group. Even that is pushing it.

oli said:
i feel like crap too when i get too hot while i'm working out. Feeling hot & sweating = bad performance for me. I've come to appreciate the value of hydrating properly before exercising - especially when running something like Dexaprine. I'm feeling hot and a bit sweaty as it is just sitting here (dosed 1 cap ~30 mins ago).
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I dont mind being hot. It is when it is already cold and my body is trying to cool itself off.

FL3X MAGNUM said:
Sorry to hear about your crappy leg day.

If it makes you feel any better, I had one of the best workouts ever yesterday and hit a PR too. I left the gym with a crazy full body pump and insane vascularity that lasted hours, and was accompanied with an overwhelmingly high appetite.
Lol :)
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Haha thanks for cheering me up. Been watching your P-Bold log. Hopefully this stuff start kicking in soon and I start really kicking ass.

For the IForce reps is there an optimal time to take it? Or just anytime around bed?
 
Empty stomach or not?
 
Tomahawk88 said:
Not that at all. Just had a friend text me asking if I had any extra supplements I wanted to sell.
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ahaaaaa... that makes more sense then... LOL


my bad...
 
empty stomach may be fine for dosing and absorption... but I NEVER go to bed on a full stomach, certainly not carbs....


You want any GH release at all you should refrain from carb intake for at least 2 hours before bed and 4-6 hours would be optimal...
 
Sourdough said:
You want any GH release at all you should refrain from carb intake for at least 2 hours before bed and 4-6 hours would be optimal...
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crap, i'm doing it wrong :(

by the time i get home from training, sit down for a few, cook for me and daughter napalm it's 7, and bed time is ~9:00

good info there dough...
 
Well you do what you can do, ya know?

For the longest time I trained last thing at night and my post workout meal was the last meal of the day and it didn't just kill my gains...

Really though if you can try to just load up on carbs for your preworkout meal, it will be enough to supply energy for the workout as well as recovery for after, a gda is very helpful here and also post workout... if you can make your post workout meal primarily protein and fiber them you'll get some of an insulin spike but not nearly as large and should be pretty clear of too much circulating blood glucose n help increase that gh release...

Some even suggest taking a gda like slin sane before bed to help this...
 
Sourdough said:
Some even suggest taking a gda like slin sane before bed to help this...
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^^^ Very true. I've found taking a gda before bed has you waking up feeling pretty rock hard, seems all the excess glucose goes to the muscles. Great if you're in a pinch and have to do a fasted workout first thing in the morning.
 
natandrb said:
^^^ Very true. I've found taking a gda before bed has you waking up feeling pretty rock hard, seems all the excess glucose goes to the muscles. Great if you're in a pinch and have to do a fasted workout first thing in the morning.
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Does it ever leave you feeling sick when you do this?
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
Does it ever leave you feeling sick when you do this?
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I try to avoid workouts in a completely fasted state unless it's gonna be a relatively light day, (in other words, never on leg or back day) otherwise I feel nauseous and have to cut the workout short. But I've never found the gda's to make any difference one way or the other.

My biggest thing with gda's is to either take them just before a meal or before bed. If I take one and then go do something without eating, I get real hypo real quick and will get dizzy/nauseous.
 
natandrb said:
My biggest thing with gda's is to either take them just before a meal or before bed. If I take one and then go do something without eating, I get real hypo real quick and will get dizzy/nauseous.
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completely agreed.... just cause you can take it before bed on an empty stomach doesnt mean you should do the same and not eat after during the day... you wont be too happy with what happens next.
 
So wouldn't you be slightly hypo in your sleep then? That doesn't sound too healthy...
 
So today was a pretty good workout I guess. Not very strong on bench at all. Plus these rest periods were short.

Chest:
Bench, incline hammer strength, pec dec fly
Bicep:
BB curl, cable curl, preach curl

Had a pretty good chest pump. Burned me out pretty quick though. Not used to lifting like this. By the last set of each exercise I was using baby weight. Kind of demoralizing to be honest. Used to trying to push big weight and I was struggling.

It could have been a better workout, but Intimidate hasnt really had a chance to get to work.
 
ya DEF not a good idea to take a GDA before bed... look up stories of bodybuilders using Slin and falling asleep after.... they then not to wake up often
 
Damn...I just took one before bed lol...should I go eat some carbs?

Also, nice update T-Hawk!
 
natandrb said:
^^^ Very true. I've found taking a gda before bed has you waking up feeling pretty rock hard, seems all the excess glucose goes to the muscles. Great if you're in a pinch and have to do a fasted workout first thing in the morning.
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1 cap slin sane + 500mg Agmatine pre bed = some of the deepest sleep ive EVER had. + waking up harder/drier/more vascular than the night before is always nice :D
 
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