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RickRock turns RIPPEDRock with Helladrol/Trenazone and LEAN GAINS!!

MrKleen73 said:
Nice update Rick, I slowed down on everything to maintain a litle size after a light case of salmonella last week blew my cals to crap. I dropped a good bit of weigt but it is more than likely water. I think I may have to go into the gym like DW did and see what my pics look like. I am not as lean as he is that is for sure. If you went down to 166 I bet you look ripped man. Like crazy ripped.
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I don't think I look leaner necessarily, but more dry. I will probably take some pics over the weekend and post them up as that will be the half way point of PCT, and then more pics at the end of PCT. Once I get them up for comparison, it should help to judge how things are and also get everyone's input on what they think.
 
gymrat827 said:
At your current rate 7 wont be that long keep goin bro. keep killin it
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Thanks man...I'm trying but not too hard in these first couple weeks of PCT. When I am more recovered I will go back to my normal recomp strategy with dropping the 200ish Cal's each day and upping cardio intensity.
 
DAY 11

A burn day yesterday and I walked treadmill for 50 minutes for 635 Cal's. The diet was a little higher for the day (around 2200-2500) but still woke up this morning even lighter at 165. I'm not sure if that is good or bad, nut it is what it is. I am leaner and dryer than the end of cycle for sure so being down 5-6 lbs from then may not be a bad thing. I am going to continue raising Cals a little more for now and not worry about trying to lean. I'm just going to attempt to maintain through PCT, and if some leaning still happens so be it but it will not be the goal.

Today is a workout day and I am really curious to see where my strength is at. I'm going to take in quite a bit of Cal's also today and fill up with probably a good 3300-3500.

I may be switching things up a bit next week and add a 4th workout day and drop a cardio day. I was planning on this when I went to a lean bulk anyways but may do that next week :)
 
Lets see some mid PCT pics. I posted mine up and was flat and sad looking that day but put em up. You know you look like a stud now so lets see the midpoints and we will tell you if looks like fat or muscle / water being lost. Hard to judge for yourself because you all made me feel better about my last pics when I wasn't too pleased.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Lets see some mid PCT pics. I posted mine up and was flat and sad looking that day but put em up. You know you look like a stud now so lets see the midpoints and we will tell you if looks like fat or muscle / water being lost. Hard to judge for yourself because you all made me feel better about my last pics when I wasn't too pleased.
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Yeh man, I plan on getting a mid PCT pic up this weekend. I had already planned on it anyways and then I will take more at the end of HPCT for an overall comparison. I will probably put it up on Sunday. Today is not a good day, because it is a build day and I am a little bloated from all the food today, but a burn day tomorrow and rest day Sunday should clean it up good for a pic Sunday night..;)

Hopefully I look near same as the last pic. Better would be nice, but I'm trying to be realistic and hope that I at least look close to end of cycle:fingersx:
 
PCT DAY 12

Had a good build day today with lots of carbs. I think I needed them, and it felt really good taking those in. My fast breaker was whole grain spaghetti with lean ground beef. I dont even know how much of it I ate, but my gut was very full when I was done with it so it was a lot. Total cals for the day I would guess will be over 3500....maybe closer to 4k.

Todays workout was another good one. I still havent lost any strength, so I am led to believe I havent lost any gains and it is a good sign. I'm sure the Ostarine is helping with that too.

I have a burn day tomorrow, but cardio will be only treadmill walking and only be about 20-25 minutes. Cals will also be a little higher to around 2k-2200
 
PCT DAY 13

After filling up quite a bit yesterday and getting somewhat bloated, I woke up looking pretty lean this morning and went back up to 166. I still looked fairly full, but lean. I am planning on cleaning it up more today and tomorrow so hopefully my pic doesn't look too bad come tomorrow...;)

Did some treadmill this morning. 25 minutes at 15% incline (3.5 MPH). I didn't want to go too intense or too long on the cardio, but just enough to aid in some burning. Diet is pretty much on point with just about 200 extra Cal's in there.

From the way I feel, I would say recovery is going well. I'm feeling better in general, not that I felt bad before but just have a better sense of well being. My sleep has been great the last 2 or 3 nights too. Every PCT I have done I have experienced this somewhere in the 2nd to 3rd week, so I'm sure its a sign my HPTA is coming back decent. I do know my boys downstairs seem to be back to normal form also. Everything seems to be doing well on the recovery front..
 
wlkir100 said:
Hey Rick, nice cycle and PCT!
One thing which really bothers me, how tall are you?
You 166lb looks very brutal.
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I call myself 5'9", but I'm probably closer to 5'8"....I like to lean towards being taller :D
 
I call myself 5'6, but I'm realy 5' 5.75"! And don't belittle yourself Rick! That badness would be just as lean if you were taller! The changes you've made have been so dramatic! I was fishing for sandsharks today at Santa Monica beach (only caught seaweed) and I was talking about dieting and weights, etc. with my buddy, and I actually invited him to join AM just to check out the Lean Gains diet and specifically to showcase your progress as proof that it works! He seemed REALLY interested, but I'm going to have to remind him about it tomorrow since he was smoking and I'm sure he'll forget! Anywho, take it easy guys!
--Brian
P.S.
How did you like that cycle compared to Superdrol (if you've cycled SD)? Is it better for lean bulking do you think, or more for cutting/maintaining lbm?
 
I have also told many friends who are interested in PH use about your thread. It's the place to be right now.
 
I appreciate it a lot guys. I'm very happy with how everything has went both with the cycle and PCT. I'm thinking that when I get a pic up later it will show that the weight I've lost since the end of cycle had to have been pretty much all water and I'm holding my gains well.

Even before this cycle, lean gains is where its at. I've had so much success with this diet on my way to getting lean. I have seen the most impressive changes in body composition in this time frame than any other since being on lean gains. It has been a complete lifestyle change for the better!!
 
PCT DAY 14


Had a good burn day yesterday and it showed this morning as I woke up pretty dry and lean back at 165. I took some pics today, but it was earlier tonight after eating dinner. I'm not sure if my big last meal affected the pics much, but I probably should have taken pics this morning when I looked very ripped and lean. I kept cals today at around 2k for a decent rest day, and i will be back to a good 3k tomorrow on another hopefully great workout day.

Well here are the pics. Let me know what you guys think.... good or bad. I think I have leaned out some since the end of cycle but I'm not sure if the pic really shows it, but I do see it in the mirror. I think I have maintained my size well, and I think most if not all of the 5 lbs or so I lost after the cycle was water. My current pic is the first one in the white shorts, and my end of cycle pic is from 2 weeks ago in the black shorts. I know I did look more full end of cycle, but that is expected holing the water and glycogen. overall I am pretty happy with things so far, but just looking for what you guys think...
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Those shoulders are vicious, and all those veins are scaring me! All I can say is, words won't be able to accurately convince you of the truth. Just trust that whenever you feel like you're the baddest mother fu**er in the room...it's because you ARE the baddest mother fu**er in the room! I have NEVER seen anyone that ripped. Seriously! Excellent job!
 
Good or bad? How about great? You've leaned out little in the two pics, your arms are a little smaller IMO in the new one, but damn, you still look great.
 
Thanks a lot guys. All the compliments and support mean a lot. I know its damn near impossible to look the same or better after PCT when coming off of a cycle, at least in my opinion. You just can't beat that pumped & jacked look you get while being "on". With those things in mind, I'm very happy with where I am standing right now. :)
 
Delts are picking up even more striations. Great work, Rick!
 
any thoughts on an SD/Trenazone cycle?
 
Still look good, but seems like a little size was lost in lats/arms/delts and vascularity is down a little. Not a whole lot mind you, you'd have to be hyper-critical to notice small changes like that. I just try to actually provide some honest input since I know that's what I wish I'd get more of, we're big boys we can take it!
 
Milas said:
Still look good, but seems like a little size was lost in lats/arms/delts and vascularity is down a little. Not a whole lot mind you, you'd have to be hyper-critical to notice small changes like that. I just try to actually provide some honest input since I know that's what I wish I'd get more of, we're big boys we can take it!
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I agree with you on all accounts Milas and that is exactly the type of honest feedback I want. I know I do look slightly smaller through the arms, lats, and traps to me. But not enough that is any more than expected coming off a cycle. Every cycle I have ran, I typically drop about 5 lbs within a couple weeks of PCT. The vascularity on Trenazone was ridiculous and I figured that would drop some after coming off also, and it was expected.
 
fightbackhxc said:
any thoughts on an SD/Trenazone cycle?
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For most people that would be a sick stack with awesome strength and size gains. For me personally though I wouldn't run it just because SD didn't do much for me during a SD/EPI bridge and most of my gains came when bridging into the EPI and dropping the SD.
 
RickRock13 said:
For most people that would be a sick stack with awesome strength and size gains. For me personally though I wouldn't run it just because SD didn't do much for me during a SD/EPI bridge and most of my gains came when bridging into the EPI and dropping the SD.
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Just out of curiosity what clone did you use?
 
fightbackhxc said:
Just out of curiosity what clone did you use?
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It was Beastdrol and the product was fine. I was just not as great a responder to it as most. I still gained 6lbs and had mediocre strength gains for those first 3 weeks on just the SD, but it is honestly hard to compete with EPI for me. Nothing touches it in terms of mass and strength. I'm considering just cycling EPI only from now on when bulking and doing cycles like this when cutting/recomping
 
fightbackhxc said:
Just out of curiosity what clone did you use?
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But next time I do a similar cycle to this one it will probably be EPI/Trenazone or EPI/Katana... :sgrin:

Now that would be awesome for me!!:D
 
Some people just respond to things differently. I actually will be looking to start doing longer cycles like tren and such 6 weeks vs 3-4 weeks of SD should keep better.
 
Milas said:
Still look good, but seems like a little size was lost in lats/arms/delts and vascularity is down a little. Not a whole lot mind you, you'd have to be hyper-critical to notice small changes like that. I just try to actually provide some honest input since I know that's what I wish I'd get more of, we're big boys we can take it!
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Excellent observations Milas.

RickRock13 said:
I agree with you on all accounts Milas and that is exactly the type of honest feedback I want. I know I do look slightly smaller through the arms, lats, and traps to me. But not enough that is any more than expected coming off a cycle. Every cycle I have ran, I typically drop about 5 lbs within a couple weeks of PCT. The vascularity on Trenazone was ridiculous and I figured that would drop some after coming off also, and it was expected.
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Rick,
You look great, allthough you are slightly smaller as you said it is to be expected, and the PCT is not over yet either. The results of a PCT are not the midway point when cortisol is highest but at the end when all hormones are returned or returning to normal and some recovery has occured. I imagine unless still trying to get leaner the weight loss will stop soon and perhaps even go back up a pound or two in the next two weeks. Don't be afraid to break the fast a little earlier on burn days if you have been extending it. Just until cortisol is under control it will make a difference.

That being said when i first looked I thought the pictures were in reverse. I was like well he looks a little leaner in the first one. I also noticed and forgive me if I am wrong but you are sweating a bit in the On Cycle shot from 2 weeks ago. I am assuming that either you had done some type of workout or like me too several pictures and posted the ones that looked the most like what you see when looking in the mirror. If the second I can attest to the fact that after holding those poses a few times I become more vascular and get a slight pump.

Either way I think the easiest way to sum up the differences in the pictures is it looks like you had a pump in the on cycle one and that you didn't in the recent pics. You are leaner now, you can see that in the abdomen even if not showing as vascular in the arms. That was my first impression in looking at them. Also not sure if you have a window in your bathroom but lighting looks a little different between the two pics. if a window time of day makes a huge difference in how the light falls into the contours of your muscle.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Excellent observations Milas.

Rick,
You look great, allthough you are slightly smaller as you said it is to be expected, and the PCT is not over yet either. The results of a PCT are not the midway point when cortisol is highest but at the end when all hormones are returned or returning to normal and some recovery has occured. I imagine unless still trying to get leaner the weight loss will stop soon and perhaps even go back up a pound or two in the next two weeks. Don't be afraid to break the fast a little earlier on burn days if you have been extending it. Just until cortisol is under control it will make a difference.

That being said when i first looked I thought the pictures were in reverse. I was like well he looks a little leaner in the first one. I also noticed and forgive me if I am wrong but you are sweating a bit in the On Cycle shot from 2 weeks ago. I am assuming that either you had done some type of workout or like me too several pictures and posted the ones that looked the most like what you see when looking in the mirror. If the second I can attest to the fact that after holding those poses a few times I become more vascular and get a slight pump.

Either way I think the easiest way to sum up the differences in the pictures is it looks like you had a pump in the on cycle one and that you didn't in the recent pics. You are leaner now, you can see that in the abdomen even if not showing as vascular in the arms. That was my first impression in looking at them. Also not sure if you have a window in your bathroom but lighting looks a little different between the two pics. if a window time of day makes a huge difference in how the light falls into the contours of your muscle.
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Thanks for all that Kleen. I would say that i do remember the pic I posted at the end of cycle I had a bit of a pump mostly from hard flexing and posing. It also explains why I did have a little sweat and I believe its because its one of the last pictures I took and the one from yesterday was one of the first I took with not as much of a flex pump going on and no sweat.

I do realize PCT isn't over either and I still have some recovery to worry about.
 
PCT DAY 15

I had an awesome workout today. It was the best pump I had since coming off of cycle. My triceps and chest were pumped and full and felt tight. I did increase the dosage of Ostarine this morning to 12mg up from the 6mg I was using, and that may have contributed to the increase in pumps.

Strength was great. It still hasn't changed any from the cycle which is a great thing. Hopefully I can keep that up.

I filled up quite a bit today. I didn't count Cal's but I'm sure I went over the mark. Probably somewhere between 3500-4k. I am going to possibly bring the workout days down some pretty soon and get back to around 2800-3k, especially with possibly adding a 4th build day this week, as I would like to maintain my recomp goal until I see 7%!
 
gymrat827 said:
I have a bad a$$ epi/trenazone run coming soon. Just doing a little S4 pulse at the moment.
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I'm going to try an S4 pulse soon. Are you doing 3x a week? What do you think so far?

Better let me know about how the EPI/Trenazone run goes too. That sounds SICK to me:sgrin:
 
PCT DAY 16


As expected a woke a bit heavier this morning after filling up yesterday. I looked pretty damn big and full also, and I weighed in at 167 (2lbs up from yesterday). I kept the diet clean today and about 2k is where I am going to end up on cals. Did 30 minutes treadmill for 350 cals this morning.
 
Good stuff Rick!
 
RickRock13 said:
I'm going to try an S4 pulse soon. Are you doing 3x a week? What do you think so far?

Better let me know about how the EPI/Trenazone run goes too. That sounds SICK to me:sgrin:
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not yet. I still have the S4 hiding in my lunch box from the GF. The Epi/Tren may turn into dplex/trenazone/katandrol/transderm recomp.......

Will be running the S4, 4x @ 60mg. or may stop at 3x if the vision sides kick in hard, or 5x?? we ll see how it goes.
 
gymrat827 said:
not yet. I still have the S4 hiding in my lunch box from the GF. The Epi/Tren may turn into dplex/trenazone/katandrol/transderm recomp.......

Will be running the S4, 4x @ 60mg. or may stop at 3x if the vision sides kick in hard, or 5x?? we ll see how it goes.
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Once you get this going man, keep me updated on how it goes. I will probably just be doing 50mg 3x week more than likely but it would be nice to have someone else to compare notes with..
 
Will do, I have perfect eye sight so im not that worried about it. Still i dont think I am going to run it ED but 5x @ 60mg may be what i end up doing. Again, after a wk or so Ill know what my plan is.

With the halflife being so short did you take 2 doses a day last time you were on it?? Ive only used osta and it has a 23-24hr halflife so im not sure how to run the S4
 
gymrat827 said:
Will do, I have perfect eye sight so im not that worried about it. Still i dont think I am going to run it ED but 5x @ 60mg may be what i end up doing. Again, after a wk or so Ill know what my plan is.

With the halflife being so short did you take 2 doses a day last time you were on it?? Ive only used osta and it has a 23-24hr halflife so im not sure how to run the S4
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I only dosed once a day before and had good results. Since I'm doing a pulse next it will still be once per day (preworkout) but I don't know if there would be any more benefit with twice a day dosing running straight each day but I'm pretty sure there wouldn't be with a pulse.
 
Yeah, i was just kicking the idea of 2 doses ED(on pulse days) around in my head because of the 2.5-4hr halflife.
 
PCT DAY 17


Well, what a day in the gym. I was feeling great and ready to kill some sh1t and thats exactly what I did! Strength was off the chain today and some lifts were even better than on cycle. I busted out some big weight on T-bar rows that I actually matched a PR I set during my SD/EPI bridge last winter! I managed to get 5 plates for 10, and a few weeks ago on cycle I could only get 8. I'm not sure if this increase in strength is coming from the dosage increase of Ostarine, or because my own test is up so high and I am pretty much recovered, or a combination of both. But, whatever it is it is nice!! My power to bodyweight ratio is off the chain right now!! I'm pretty much putting up the same weight and reps on a lot of lifts that I was when I was 35 lbs heavier :D I have to say it feels damn good to making some nice gains in PCT!!:sgrin:

I'm pretty sure that I am pretty recovered. I have just started feeling awesome in the gym lately. I've also been full of energy and my libido is WAY up....almost uncomfortably high. Sleep quality has been excellent as well and I just feel great all the time with no lethargy.

I'm going for a build day tomorrow instead of the normal burn day to get my 4th build day. I do still want to drop some BF and continue recomping, so I may have to do a little adjusting. Since I dropped a cardio day and added a build day with extra cals, I was thinking of dropping my build day cals down just a bit to make up the difference. Instead of going 2800-3kish on build days, I will probably go with more like 2600 which is actually still around a good 20% over maintenance which should still work good. I will leave the burn days the same and hope that this will allow me to still recomp to 7% :saevil:
 
Sounds like a plan.
 
Nice rows!
 
PCT DAY 18

Today's workout was more of the same. Great strength on all exercises. I concentrated on just shoulders with a little ab work today. Arnold presses were awesome. 70s felt great today and I considered going up in weight even. I've never tried anything over 70s before, but I'm sure I could have got a solid 8 reps out of 75s. All other exercises were also impressive strength-wise.

I looked bigger than normal and had incredible pumps today also. I'm thinking that since this workout followed a build day with higher carbs and Cal's that got me a lot Fuller from filling up.


I basically split my Friday workout into 2 parts. It is normally shoulders/legs, but with adding this 4th workout in, the new routine will have shoulders/ABS on Thursday and legs and some arm work on Friday.
 
Nice! Yeah the pump when already having some carbs gets ridiculous. My legs got so pumped yesterday evening they hurt.
 
PCT DAY 19


It seems like the workouts just keep getting better and better. Had another great one killing some legs. My legs are a little behind some of my other muscle groups in terms of strength and size, so I really want to start concentrating on getting some growth there. My squats have always sucked IMO, but today was impressive for me anyways. I managed 275x10 and 315x8 which are both PRs. My leg press went great too. I had trouble today at work with stairs because my quads were burning, so I know I killed them! I also did a little arm work and that also went great.


With 9 days left in PCT, I can honestly say that this has been the most succesful PCT I have ever ran. I am really impressed with how recovery has been and I have never felt this great in PCT, or any other time for that matter!! I believe this PCT line-upwill become what I do every time from now on. I feel incredible and ready to take on the whole gym every time I enter it!!
 
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