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THUNDERGOD'S GOING NATTY AND NASTY WITH NATADROL AND AS-GT!! (sponsored)

AZMIDLYF said:
Just be carefull with the big jumps TG. The tendons on...sorry to say...us older lifters aren't as resilient as these younger bucks.

90 lb pin wheels is insane by the way!!
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Most of these "young bucks" couldn't hang with us and you know it!!! ha ha
It took many years of training (27 years) to get to these poundages. And I don't make big jumps. I just add a little here and a little there. Those 2 and 1/2 lb. plates really come in handy when making these small jumps.
 
I agree but the TEST might start talking to you!!
 
thundergod said:
Most of these "young bucks" couldn't hang with us and you know it!!! ha ha
It took many years of training (27 years) to get to these poundages. And I don't make big jumps. I just add a little here and a little there. Those 2 and 1/2 lb. plates really come in handy when making these small jumps.
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Tempered in pain! That's what the young guys lack.
 
THUNDER!!!! RAAAAAAAAAWRR!!! I will say that we must respect the expierence of the wise!!! I will say thought that bouncing back is much ezier being a young buck muhahah!!! but i will say that its very hard to keep up with all the expierence :firedevil: Keep Kill it!!
 
GMG760 said:
Thunder... you are taking in like 600-700mg caffeine pre-workout? You don't see a crazy spike in BP from that? Do you ever take time off from this crazy amount of stimulants? I mean, that would destroy a mortals adrenals... Jeez dude, that much caffeine and Geranium must feel like 50mg of adderal or something.
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LOL Holy Crap!!! Man you are soooo not ADHD, 50 mg of Adderal would have me passed out on the floor lying in a puddle of my own drool I would be passed out so hard. Really does the exact opposite to me than "normal people" I get half comatose at high doses, a lower dose slows me down enough to make me almost normal...

1.5 grams of Test a week HOLY FUGGIN CRAP MAN!!!! Was that all you were running or were you stacking with something too?
 
MrKleen73 said:
LOL Holy Crap!!! Man you are soooo not ADHD, 50 mg of Adderal would have me passed out on the floor lying in a puddle of my own drool I would be passed out so hard. Really does the exact opposite to me than "normal people" I get half comatose at high doses, a lower dose slows me down enough to make me almost normal...

1.5 grams of Test a week HOLY FUGGIN CRAP MAN!!!! Was that all you were running or were you stacking with something too?
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That has always baffled me about how it effects those with ADHD and then those without. The stuff is just amphetamine salts... basically pharma-grade speed.
 
GMG760 said:
That has always baffled me about how it effects those with ADHD and then those without. The stuff is just amphetamine salts... basically pharma-grade speed.
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I don't even want to get into my "experience" with it but I will leave it at this: if you need it, fine, if not, don't play around with it... nuff said.
 
GMG760 said:
That has always baffled me about how it effects those with ADHD and then those without. The stuff is just amphetamine salts... basically pharma-grade speed.
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It wires me up like mad. I've taken it a few times.....and enjoyed it immensely every single time!!:woohoo: :hump: :Eyecrazy:
 
Irish Cannon said:
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Irish, remember we were talking about transdermal Formestane just recently? I said I was going to pick up some Penetrate and mix some up that I have in bulk powder? Well, I've been reading some on Emu Oil as a transdermal carrier and I'm thinking of trying to use some with Form.

Look at this article that I copied and pasted from another site:

Two different trials were done to evaluate the transdermal qualities of emu oil. In both trials, a topical application of emu oil containing either tocopherol (Vitamin E) or DHA (docosahexanoic) to the shaved surface of hamsters was done. Periodic blood samples taken over a seven day period showed conclusively that emu oil is transdermal and that it can be utilized for transdermal delivery. The data also suggests that the transdermal qualities of emu oil might actually be greater than other oils currently being utilized daily in hundreds of over-the-counter remedies for such things as weight loss, smoking, testosterone and hormonal replacement therapy. There could be a future use for emu oil as the carrier in these and other applications.


Now comes the question of how to mix the Form into the Emu Oil? I'd have to heat the mixture to insure that the Form dissolves into the mix. I wonder how the Emu Oil holds up to the heat?
Does this seem feasible or even possible to you IC? :thinking:
 
thundergod said:
Irish, remember we were talking about transdermal Formestane just recently? I said I was going to pick up some Penetrate and mix some up that I have in bulk powder? Well, I've been reading some on Emu Oil as a transdermal carrier and I'm thinking of trying to use some with Form.

Look at this article that I copied and pasted from another site:

Two different trials were done to evaluate the transdermal qualities of emu oil. In both trials, a topical application of emu oil containing either tocopherol (Vitamin E) or DHA (docosahexanoic) to the shaved surface of hamsters was done. Periodic blood samples taken over a seven day period showed conclusively that emu oil is transdermal and that it can be utilized for transdermal delivery. The data also suggests that the transdermal qualities of emu oil might actually be greater than other oils currently being utilized daily in hundreds of over-the-counter remedies for such things as weight loss, smoking, testosterone and hormonal replacement therapy. There could be a future use for emu oil as the carrier in these and other applications.


Now comes the question of how to mix the Form into the Emu Oil? I'd have to heat the mixture to insure that the Form dissolves into the mix. I wonder how the Emu Oil holds up to the heat?
Does this seem feasible or even possible to you IC? :thinking:
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crader said:
We use emu oil in several of our products. Expensive stuff but it works. It can be heated just fine.
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Thanks C!!!:You_Rock_Emoticon:
That's what I was really wanting to know. I read many articles yesterday on the Emu Oil being a superb transdermal carrier, but not one single article mentioned whether or not the oil could be heated. But I assumed that it could once I read that is could be used as a hormone/testosterone carrier as well. You would have to heat those compounds to get them into solution.

Looks like I will be cooking up some Formestane/Trione powder based Emu Oil transdermals here after while.
Gotta have them ready for the big injectable cycle.

By the way Crader, I saw the emu oil in bulk prices that didn't look too expensive. Actually quite inexpensive if you ask me.

I'll find you the link and PM it to you. :shhh:
 
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This thread is the best, hope it never ends :D

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No you didn't. Tell me you just didn't say that!! You just put the kiss-of-death on it. :kiss::dead1: LOL

Actually today is the very last day of the Natadrol. I still have enough Anadraulic State GTSE to last for 3 more workouts, but this ride is officially over with as of today. I'm starting to feel some melancholy kick in now that the end is this near. It's been a simply wonderful cycle. Both products performed well above my preconceived expectations. Very pleased with this run.

Final updates and review forthcoming. :deal:
 
Looking forward to the final review ;)
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TO ALL WHO ARE INTERESTED:

To all my readers/subscribers who want to follow another Thunder-thread:

I just put up my new log for the injectable cycle in the Cycle Info Section:
It's titled, "Thundergod's "Sticking" It To The Wicked" injectable cycle.

I hope to see everyone there!!!

:woohoo: :dance: :arms: :dance2: :head: :hammer:
 
thundergod said:
To all my readers/subscribers who want to follow another Thunder-thread:

I just put up my new log for the injectable cycle in the Cycle Info Section:
It's titled, "Thundergod's "Sticking" It To The Wicked" injectable cycle.

I hope to see everyone there!!!

:woohoo: :dance: :arms: :dance2: :head: :hammer:
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:hitit:
 
Yeah if it wakes you up, it is not meant for you... However doctors prescribe it like candy and college kids use it as legal speed for studying. LOL Whatever works...
 
FINAL UPDATE AND REVIEW

Well, the ride is officially over now. It was fun while it lasted. 4 weeks of pure delight. I couldn't have been more pleased with this cycle of Natadrol and Anadraulic State GTSE. Both worked together very synergistically. One merely complemented the other. I would advise the readers to pick up both of these products once the sale for the ASGT kicks off. And run them together!!

NATADROL: OVERALL-RATING--8

Rating based on a scoring system of 1 to 10. 1 being poor and 10 being perfect.

Vascularity: 8. Veins have been very apparent and bulging through my skin.
Density: 7. My muscles are noticeably harder since the start of the cycle. Look like rock.
Strength: 8. Must give it this high of a rating seeing how I retained good strength while dropping carbs to an all-time low.
Recovery: 8. Very strong in this department. And I had embarked on a brutal training routine for the last 6 weeks. The Natadrol really came through here.
Sleep: 7. No real problems here. I took some Melatonin and Diphenhydramine a few times so I could get down.
Libido: 9!!! Have to give it to the product here fo sho!! My libido has been kicking like a 3-legged ninja on Ecstasy!! Been hornier than a 4-balled tomcat on this cycle.
Appetite: 8. Very effective appetite stimulator. I've had to keep my hunger at bay since this was a recomp. I can imagine this product being very nice on a lean-bulk.

ANADRAULIC STATE GTSE: OVERALL-RATING--9

Without even going into detail, I wanna just come straight out and say that I give this product an overall rating of 9. It's as close to being a perfect pre-workout combination as I have ever utilized. IT WORKS!!! And big time.
If this doesn't get you in the mood to lift some weights, then maybe you need to take up knitting or some other such hobby!! LOL


I gained 4 very lean pounds of muscle while running these 2 products for a period of 4 weeks. I was very impressed with the efficacy of both products!! :thumbsup:
 
Very nice nice log TG, was thinking about picking some of the natadrol up, and this has solidified that. You say that you gained 4 lean pounds of muscle, did you notice any weight loss as well given the carb drop off or just gains without fat accumulating?
 
Great review and solid results there big guy. Have to remember that 4 balled Tomcat line for my 18yr old!! I can't wait for LG to come up with some kind of stack with these. I will take 4 lbs of lean gains anyday!!
 
THUNDER!!! NICE REVIEW MAN!!! 4lbs is nice!!! BOOM BOOM BOOM!!!! Great gains for Natural Test Booster!!! WOOO HOOO!!! Thats what i'm talkin about!! Could use your wisdom and energy in my log!!! woo hoo!!!
 
ticco said:
Very nice nice log TG, was thinking about picking some of the natadrol up, and this has solidified that. You say that you gained 4 lean pounds of muscle, did you notice any weight loss as well given the carb drop off or just gains without fat accumulating?
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Before this cycle I had already cut a decent amount of weight. At Thanksgiving I weighed 260lbs. and by the time I started this cycle I was weighing 242lbs. So I had already lost as much weight as I had wanted. The Natadrol was for recomping purposes. But with the addition of more protein to make up for the reduction of carbs, I wound up adding 4 very lean lbs. of muscle during this cycle.
This morning the scale registered 246lbs. If I were to "guesstimate" my bodyfat%, I would say around 9 or 10%.
This cycle was very successful in my estimation.

I give both of these products a big 2 thumbs way. way up!! :thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
TG, great log. I am a huge fan of Natadrol and cant wait to give it another, longer run. Really surpassed what I had hoped for as well.
 
TG, could you see running this for 8 weeks?
 
AZMIDLYF said:
TG, could you see running this for 8 weeks?
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I'd see that as a more positive alternative as to what I did. I think this product would only strengthen as weeks 6 through 8 roll around. It was still effective short term as I dosed it somewhat high @8 caps per day.
 
thundergod said:
I'd see that as a more positive alternative as to what I did. I think this product would only strengthen as weeks 6 through 8 roll around. It was still effective short term as I dosed it somewhat high @8 caps per day.
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Pushing the envelope a bit here, could you dose 8 caps for 8 weeks? Or is that too much?
 
very nice TG i always enjoy your logs. now im all amped up to get mine going.
 
ex-tightend83 said:
Pushing the envelope a bit here, could you diose 8 caps for 8 weeks? Or is that too much?
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Judging by the stats you show I would not think so but a rep could chime in for other thoughts.
 
AZMIDLYF said:
Judging by the stats you show I would not think so but a rep could chime in for other thoughts.
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Thanks for the answer. I would also be curious as to what a rep would have to say. And the three-legged ninja comment (as well as the other comments about that jackass who needed to make himself feel important)--PRICELESS!! :booty: :rofl:
 
ex-tightend83 said:
Thanks for the answer. I would also be curious as to what a rep would have to say. And the three-legged ninja comment (as well as the other comments about that jackass who needed to make himself feel important)--PRICELESS!! :booty: :rofl:
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Judging by your stats I'd stay away from anything hormonal, diet cuts weight not supplements
 
Not really looking to cut weight per se. More of a recomp. But thanks anyway.
 
And you can easily do that on a diet. Just my opinin but in the end it's your body, choice and money. Good luck.
 
Thundergod, since you are an "older" one here and running an androgen, did you have any prostate issues?
 
Pace2 said:
Thundergod, since you are an "older" one here and running an androgen, did you have any prostate issues?
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No. I've ran several types of strong androgens, some much stronger than this Natadrol, and have never had prostate issues.

If I may go out on a tangent here:

I don't think that dht (from androgens) causes BPH or benign prostate hypertrophy or enlarged prostate. I believe that it is excess estrogen that is to blame.
I can see where guys who elect to not use an AI run into these type problems as they are allowing estrogen to roam freely and do its dirty work.

But as a safeguard one could always toss in some cheap Saw Palmetto just to err on the side of caution. :biggthumpup:
 
GMG760 said:
LOL... he probably doses about an ounce from what I remember. Like 20-30 grams. A lot.
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That's when I'm on a high dose run of fishy oil.
As a maintenance dose, I take 10 to 12 grams everyday as a staple. Gotta have this stuff boys.
I recommend every lifter to be taking at least 10 grams per day.
 
BUMP THAT THUNDER!!! VERY WISE MY MAN!!! VERY WISE!!!! FISH OIL FOR THE WIN!!!
 
It's like you are screaming at us through your keyboard. Press caps lock one time please.
 
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