Dragon - What TG does to his own body is his business. He has never once recommended that people use Methyl Tren. He always stated it was dangerous, and only gave an opinion when he was through using it. In fact, I think that TG has only ever given advice (that I have read) through his own personal experience, and often will be heard telling people that he doesn't react the same to these substances as most do. I have never read TG give advice about pinning, or anything else that he hasn't done for that matter. What TG has done, is do an AMAZING recomp. The pictures prove it, therefore, his advice should be golden for Silver.
You know, this all started with me trying to boost Silver's spirits and remind him that LBM gain is more important than weight gain, and now look at this sh*t we are in, because instead of simply disagreeing with me, you had to come out and say that I was giving bad advice, that my opinion is inherintly wrong. Well, bud, you can do it your way, but don't take away from me what I have gained and learned. Nothing of what I have said is bad advice. We all understand that you have to gain some fat along with the muscle to maximize your potential of weight gain. Not everyone cares about that last 3-4 pounds if it means packing on a gut of fat. I sure don't. Getting those extra few lbs doesn't excuse someone from eating like sh*t or getting out of shape to gain the weight. I wasn't gonna call you directly out, but you calling TG out pissed me off. You have absolutely NO frame of reference for when or how someone should cut or bulk, as you never have been cut yourself. That is the armchair-advising that TG is talking about. Frankly put, if you are 20% bf, you are bordering on fat. There is no excuse to put on that much BF% even on an intense bulk, as it is outside of what is "healthy" for men. Honestly 20% is too much for women IMO. It comes off like you are bagging on being cut because you never have been. You talking about when to cut is like me giving Silver advice about Test Prop. It's just irrelevant because I have never used injectable steroids, just like you have never been cut. You realize at your weight assuming you are 20% bf, you are carrying 52 lbs of fat right? That makes your LBM 208. Mine is about 188-190 and you have 2 inches on me. Who's program is more successful again? You still think lean bulking doesn't work?
Keep doing it your way, just realize that after my next cycle, as far as muscle is concerned, I WILL be damn near as big as you even though you will weigh more than me... and I'll still be able to see my six pack.
You know, this all started with me trying to boost Silver's spirits and remind him that LBM gain is more important than weight gain, and now look at this sh*t we are in, because instead of simply disagreeing with me, you had to come out and say that I was giving bad advice, that my opinion is inherintly wrong. Well, bud, you can do it your way, but don't take away from me what I have gained and learned. Nothing of what I have said is bad advice. We all understand that you have to gain some fat along with the muscle to maximize your potential of weight gain. Not everyone cares about that last 3-4 pounds if it means packing on a gut of fat. I sure don't. Getting those extra few lbs doesn't excuse someone from eating like sh*t or getting out of shape to gain the weight. I wasn't gonna call you directly out, but you calling TG out pissed me off. You have absolutely NO frame of reference for when or how someone should cut or bulk, as you never have been cut yourself. That is the armchair-advising that TG is talking about. Frankly put, if you are 20% bf, you are bordering on fat. There is no excuse to put on that much BF% even on an intense bulk, as it is outside of what is "healthy" for men. Honestly 20% is too much for women IMO. It comes off like you are bagging on being cut because you never have been. You talking about when to cut is like me giving Silver advice about Test Prop. It's just irrelevant because I have never used injectable steroids, just like you have never been cut. You realize at your weight assuming you are 20% bf, you are carrying 52 lbs of fat right? That makes your LBM 208. Mine is about 188-190 and you have 2 inches on me. Who's program is more successful again? You still think lean bulking doesn't work?
Keep doing it your way, just realize that after my next cycle, as far as muscle is concerned, I WILL be damn near as big as you even though you will weigh more than me... and I'll still be able to see my six pack.