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VolcomX311 said:
That's a close call.... and I appreciate your good taste, but I think they're objectively very close in terms of body shape & lines, so it may fall to a subjective preferential call.
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De gustibus non est disputandum ;)

VolcomX311 said:
... that's like, meet me for heavy deads
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I hope to god your not Tuna, cause you might be able to kick my @$$.
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Irish Cannon said:
. Debra Messing.
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Ah.......Debra Messing. Those eyes!! Something about those eyes freakin' hypnotize me. :blink: If I'm not careful, and look into them too long, I'll be "Messing" my pants up!! :toofunny:
 
snagency said:
He's a beast. :clean:
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Thanks Chef, but maybe not quite a beast yet. Perhaps more like a seriously perturbed wild animal. Like one of those animals who were just out searching for food then found themslevs in the backyard of some residential and now the fire department and police department are trying to throw nets at me and stick me with shock sticks and i'm like, dude, seriously, not coo, BRO! that $hit hurts!. Invalid Link Removed

Yeah.... maybe more like one of those.
 
metroba said:
Wow very impressive Volcom! I def see the massivity of your forearms! Phenomenal work brother! :clap2:. I look forward to the day Ill be pushing your kinda weight man!
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Thanks Metroba, the most notable aesthetic improvements seem to have been my traps and my forearms. My chest actually look a tad deeper near the bottom portion, but its probably something only I can notice.

Slow & steady and the strength will come, you'll get there.
 
TimberLakers said:
She'd kick my ass armwrestling without any beers...
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Rule #1. Girl can't have a stronger jawline then me.

Rule #2. Girl can't be the one giving ME a piggy back ride through parks.

Rule #3. Girl can't be the one carrying ME into our new house.

Rule #4. I can't feel dainty in HER arms.

I'm just kidding, with that said, rules 1 through 4 still stands.

I like "fit" girls, I even like girls with hard, toned bodies fit, but not competitive male amateur hard.
 
VolcomX311 said:
Rule #1. Girl can't have a stronger jawline then me.

Rule #2. Girl can't be the one giving ME a piggy back ride through parks.

Rule #3. Girl can't be the one carrying ME into our new house.

I'm just kidding, with that said, rules 1 through 3 still stands.

I like "fit" girls, I even like girls with hard, toned bodies fit, but not competitive male amateur hard.
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Totally agree.


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Por Jemplo

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Fit, Firm & Feminine. Obviously my personal standards are nowhere near that outrageous. My girlfriend doesn't even workout, but Marzia's body type is what I consider the absolute Apex of sexy.
 
Man, I'll tell you guys, taking a week off while still reading all the supplement review/training logs is a horrible combination. I want to lift so badly. I feel like crap just sitting around the house reading about the history of criminal corrections.
 
VolcomX311 said:
Rule #1. Girl can't have a stronger jawline then me.

Rule #2. Girl can't be the one giving ME a piggy back ride through parks.

Rule #3. Girl can't be the one carrying ME into our new house.

Rule #4. I can't feel dainty in HER arms.

I'm just kidding, with that said, rules 1 through 4 still stands.

I like "fit" girls, I even like girls with hard, toned bodies fit, but not competitive male amateur hard.
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I totally agree with your rules! And I love that Marzia pic you posted -- I've had it on my myspace page for a while. :D
 
Amazingly Productive Morning!

9:00am: Ingested Blue GENE.

10:00am: Arrived at La Verne, L.A. Fitness

Light Deads & Shrugs
[I'm still rehabbing my lower back, so I kept my deads at a very moderate weight]

Dead Lifts
225lbs x 12 reps
245lbs x 8 reps
265lbs x 8 reps
285lbs x 8 reps
285lbs x 8 reps

(I could DEFINITELY have gone higher and from what I could tell, without any complications, but I forced myself to take it easy. Normally, my first "working set" of deads start at 405lbs, so you can imagine how much I have to hold myself back. If I ever had any type of lifting ego (which is sad to admit) its Dead lifts.

Barbell Shrugs
225lbs x 15 reps
315lbs x 12 reps
335lbs x 10 reps
355lbs x 10 reps
375lbs x 10 reps
375lbs x 8 reps

Behind The Neck Shrugs, Smith
225lbs x 12 reps
245lbs x 12 reps
265lbs x 12 reps
265lbs x 10 reps

Db Shrugs
110lbs Db's x 12 reps
115lbs Db's x 12 reps
120lbs Db's x 12 reps
125lbs Db's x 12 reps

10:50am: Post Workout Shake; 65g carbs, 30g protein.

10:50am-11:05am: 15 min power nap in the car, at gym parking lot.

11:20am: 320 kcal meal (not very hungry)

11:45am: Arrived at Upland, L.A. Fitness to meet my workout partner for Chest.

Incline Focused Chest Day
[I realize I just hit chest Thursday night, but this was what was available between my workout partner and I, so I modified our workout to be incline focused, as I did not target much incline Thursday night.

Incline Bench, Free
185lbs x 10 reps
195lbs x 10 reps
205lbs x 8 reps
205lbs x 8 reps
215lbs x 7 reps

Incline Db Press
85lbs Db's x 10 reps
85lbs Db's x 10 reps
85lbs Db's x 10 reps

Incline Bench, Smith
185lbs x 12 reps
205lbs x 12 reps
225lbs x 8 reps

Incline Hammer Press
180lbs x 10 reps
200lbs x 9 reps
200lbs x 10 reps

Incline Machine Fly
140lbs x 10 reps
155lbs x 10 reps
155lbs x 10 reps

Post Workout Meal: Rice, Black Beans, Chicken, Steak, bell peppers & onions, sprinkled cheese, all mixed up with two lemons squeezed over and plenty of green tabasco sauce.

Shaddow,

I tried Sumo's to open up with, but I couldn't bring myself to continue with them. I did feel greater alleviation in my lumbar from performing Sumo's, as compared to Romanian, but my muscle coordination, angles of strength, mechanical torque, neuro-muscular familiarity & efficiency and muscle strength development is so well tuned to Romanians, that performing Sumo's felt like trying to throw a ball with my non-dominant hand. It was do-able, but it felt awkward and undesirably challenging.

I think if I had no other option what-so-ever, I would do Sumo's, but I decided to just go Romanian and take it uber light. I'm all for variation in all types of forms & angles to maximally stimulate muscle growth, but Deads are more performance based for me, so switching to that unfamiliar stance was not a pleasant experience. I tried the 225 Sumo style, and 225 is literally a warm up weight for me in Romanian style, but performing it Sumo felt like I probably could have pulled 5 reps if I tried really hard.

Again, admittedly, when I comes to Dead lifts, I do have somewhat of an ego, but not so much for everyone else to see, but for myself. There's a certain level of proficiency that I can't seem to let myself fall beneath, so even if Romanian's have to be performed extremely light for now, it feels like home.

Was that mellow-dramatic enough?
 
VolcomX311 said:
Shaddow,

I tried Sumo's to open up with, but I couldn't bring myself to continue with them. I did feel greater alleviation in my lumbar from performing Sumo's, as compared to Romanian, but my muscle coordination, angles of strength, mechanical torque, neuro-muscular familiarity & efficiency and muscle strength development is so well tuned to Romanians, that performing Sumo's felt like trying to throw a ball with my non-dominant hand. It was do-able, but it felt awkward and undesirably challenging.

I think if I had no other option what-so-ever, I would do Sumo's, but I decided to just go Romanian and take it uber light. I'm all for variation in all types of forms & angles to maximally stimulate muscle growth, but Deads are more performance based for me, so switching to that unfamiliar stance was not a pleasant experience. I tried the 225 Sumo style, and 225 is literally a warm up weight for me in Romanian style, but performing it Sumo felt like I probably could have pulled 5 reps if I tried really hard.

Again, admittedly, when I comes to Dead lifts, I do have somewhat of an ego, but not so much for everyone else to see, but for myself. There's a certain level of proficiency that I can't seem to let myself fall beneath, so even if Romanian's have to be performed extremely light for now, it feels like home.

Was that mellow-dramatic enough?
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Right on, bro. I was wondering if you'd given them a shot yet. So, in your opinion, are sumos more difficult to do than Romanian deads, or was it just the unfamiliarity that made it seem more difficult?
 
shaddow said:
So, in your opinion, are sumos more difficult to do than Romanian deads, or was it just the unfamiliarity that made it seem more difficult?
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To me it seems like a matter of individual bio-mechanics. I think that sumo's are better suited for the shorter athlete who has shorter than normal arms. They seem to be able to compensate for this with leg strength over back strength. Again there are always exceptions to every rule. The late Dave Pasanella (sp?) was a 6'6 powerlifter who, believe it or not, deadlifted using sumo technique. But he also squatted using a sumo-stance. He had amazingly strong legs. If I remember correctly, he also squatted over 1,000 lbs. But for most of us tall, long-armed athletes, conventional-style deads seem to be better suited for our structures whereas sumo's seem better tailored for shorter individuals. But not always. ;)
 
thundergod said:
To me it seems like a matter of individual bio-mechanics. I think that sumo's are better suited for the shorter athlete who has shorter than normal arms. They seem to be able to compensate for this with leg strength over back strength. Again there are always exceptions to every rule. The late Dave Pasanella (sp?) was a 6'6 powerlifter who, believe it or not, deadlifted using sumo technique. But he also squatted using a sumo-stance. He had amazingly strong legs. If I remember correctly, he also squatted over 1,000 lbs. But for most of us tall, long-armed athletes, conventional-style deads seem to be better suited for our structures whereas sumo's seem better tailored for shorter individuals. But not always. ;)
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Thanks for the info, TG!
 
holy christ. im gone for two days camping, and THIS is what i miss.

im just going to fast forward and skip all that other stuff, the good and the bad.

killer workouts, still, sam. keep it up dood.
 
Whats better between Sumo or Romania? Well, in addition to Thunder's insightful input, the Romanian's seem to rely heavier on hams, while Sumo's rely heavier on quads & adductors. That deep wide stance with your feet pointed out sort of removes that posterior pull from the hams, at least to a significant extent compared to Romanians. The Sumo's seem to rely more heavily on hip flexors then Romanians, too.

In conclusion, it comes down to personal preference, and that preference encompasses personal comfort, familiarity and muscular & neural development.

The dead lift is real technical and is a high muscular coordinated lift, and your body gets good at which ever style you've neuro-muscularly developed. It's not just a matter of existing muscle, but the mechanism of the muscles efficiency.

In the Romanians, if this is what you are primarily developed in, your brain knows this. Send acetylcholines (neuro transmitters) down the spine. First fire up the calves, now fire the hamstrings, secondary qauds, fire the glutes, spinae erectors and on up through the thoracic, once you reach the erectors its all the same, but when you switch to sumo. The brain will shoot to the calves, but they're not really utilized in the same fashion, fire up the hams, secondary quads, except the hams are no longer in the equation to the same extent, if much at all and the quads become the primary movers, glutes are still involved, but now the hip flexors require greater excitement.

This neuro-muscular confusion won't have much effect on light weight, but moderate to heavy weight will really reveal the lack of efficiency.

I prefer the Romanian's, but I could make an argument for the benefits of both. Romania is my home, per se :hammer:

I suppose better, is a subjective point in regards Sumo vs Romanian.
 
rolandajoint said:
holy christ. im gone for two days camping, and THIS is what i miss.

im just going to fast forward and skip all that other stuff, the good and the bad.

killer workouts, still, sam. keep it up dood.
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Just go back one page to see my cool vids and the hot girls :woohoo:
 
Loved those videos Volcom, that was a rare demonstration of form in its absolute perfection
Head down, sir ! :box:

VolcomX311 said:
In conclusion, it comes down to personal preference, and that preference encompasses personal comfort, familiarity and muscular & neural development.

I prefer the Romanian's, but I could make an argument for the benefits of both. Romania is my home, per se :hammer:
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I'm with you there, even better though, are Romanian off the platform with chains at either side of the bar :head:

As a side note: I had a slipped lumbal disc (and BAAAAD SCIATICA as a consequence) a year prior I started lifting. Lots of physio and stretchin put the damn thing "back into place" however, for I year after I had to be careful with my back. Sometimes, when I slept in a wrong position, I would wake up with a shooting pain down my left leg and I was barely able to get myself out of bed. All these "annoyances" disappeared once I started deadlifting. I lift as heavy as I can without breaking the form and I never use a belt. The back is strong now and the disc has no chance of slipping out again ! :dance:

Deads rule !!! :hammer:
 
dragonfly said:
As a side note: I had a slipped lumbal disc (and BAAAAD SCIATICA as a consequence) a year prior I started lifting. Lots of physio and stretchin put the damn thing "back into place" however, for I year after I had to be careful with my back. Sometimes, when I slept in a wrong position, I would wake up with a shooting pain down my left leg and I was barely able to get myself out of bed. All these "annoyances" disappeared once I started deadlifting. I lift as heavy as I can without breaking the form and I never use a belt. The back is strong now and the disc has no chance of slipping out again ! :dance:

Deads rule !!! :hammer:
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:goodpost: Good stuff here dragonfly! I've also heard people saying they shouldn't squat because their knees are weak or have been previously injured. I had surgery on my right knee (18 years ago) and had the left one drained and re-habbed before that. Squats have made them stronger for sure. I have had a "bulging" disc before and heavy deads always made it feel better for days. And finally it just went away. Proper lifting is good for the joints, contrary to what a lot of literature says.
 
thundergod said:
:goodpost: Good stuff here dragonfly! I've also heard people saying they shouldn't squat because their knees are weak or have been previously injured.
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:whiner::whiner: Yeah, excuses, excuses! So much more gentle on one's ego to say: "My knees are bad" instead of: "I don't squat because squatting is too hard...(and I'm a fragile flower" ) :icon_lol:

I had surgery on my right knee (18 years ago) and had the left one drained and re-habbed before that. Squats have made them stronger for sure. I have had a "bulging" disc before and heavy deads always made it feel better for days. And finally it just went away.
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AMAZING Thundergod !:clap2: Fight fire with fire :smite:
I regularly run and ride. Two years ago I had a cycling accident and masacred my right knee all down to the bone. Bring on the squats !!! Seriously, never had any problems with heavy squatting, if anything my knees only complain if I increase the frequency of my running sessions (which I rarerely do)

Proper lifting is good for the joints, contrary to what a lot of literature says.
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AGREE ! Lifting is only bad if it is done in a bad form. I see guys in my gym switched on the SWING&JERK mode when they deadlift (a new powerlifting style there mate ?!!! :think:).

Give them a month or two and then they'll be saying: I don't deadlift anymore, 'cause it is BAD for my back :fool2::fool2::fool2:
 
Replay Episode

I'm re-posting these fore fun, but also because I won't be able to perform my strength evaluation on Deads as I had originally planned and aniticipated with my pre-cycle strength evaluations using deads.

All this deads talk put me in the mood to do this.

Dragonfly,

I had a severe slip disc with horrendous sciatica about 4 years ago. My recovery was 9-10 months. I was actually told to never perform deads, squats or heavy shrugs again, but I still do them, but of course, for ME, they come with consequence, because I re-aggravate my lumbar quite frequently.

The end of last spring I re-aggravated my L2 to the point of not being able to walk for 3 days, and once i could walk, I was moving around like a 90 year old man.

But it all worked out, I always come back one way or another.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47bTdVzFK-8"]YouTube - Dead lifts[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Xb3XNYzekw"]YouTube - Dead lifts 2[/ame]
 
dragonfly said:
AGREE ! Lifting is only bad if it is done in a bad form. I see guys in my gym switched on the SWING&JERK mode when they deadlift (a new powerlifting style there mate ?!!! :think:).

Give them a month or two and then they'll be saying: I don't deadlift anymore, 'cause it is BAD for my back :fool2::fool2::fool2:
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i see this at my gym too. except these kids are in high school and think they are superman because they are on tren or some other designer, and think they can hit 315 cold, with no stretching, no belt, and no technique.

i shake my head most of the time, but usually i just laugh to myself knowing they prolly wont be around for long so i shouldnt be bothered by them.
 
and i thought id bring some spice to this log. literally.

carnitas and eggs, with green chili. holy $%#$ it was amazing.

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Nice vids Vol!

Dragonfly you fit in so well - its not even funny....:cackle:
 
Reps to Roland for bringing the heat. That sounds fricken amazing!

I've been on the search for a good masseuse. I went to a massage place yesterday, but it was whack city. I basically paid $50 for a girl to rub oil on my body with her forearms for an hour. Sure it made me sleepy, but it was pathetic in terms of therapeutic value (she wasn't hot at all or it might have been worth it).

My usual masseuse, Mr.Lu, the OG Asian deep tissue masseuse, aka, Lord of Pain, is a bit much. I'm looking for something less medival torture rack, but not a beauty spa massage either. I have no desire to feel pampered & pretty, i want to find someone to get deep in the muscle and actually squeeze the muscle with finger tips, not glide over my skin using their forearms. Mr Lu makes me sweat from the pain and I realize deep tissues are painful, but he's over the top.

Any suggestions Roland? I've been looking at Glendora through Upland.

I noticed King's Gym has a "Massage" sign up, but i don't know if its for members only.
 
VolcomX311 said:
Reps to Roland for bringing the heat. That sounds fricken amazing!

I've been on the search for a good masseuse. I went to a massage place yesterday, but it was whack city. I basically paid $50 for a girl to rub oil on my body with her forearms for an hour. Sure it made me sleepy, but it was pathetic in terms of therapeutic value (she wasn't hot at all or it might have been worth it).

My usual masseuse, Mr.Lu, the OG Asian deep tissue masseuse, aka, Lord of Pain, is a bit much. I'm looking for something less medival torture rack, but not a beauty spa massage either. I have no desire to feel pampered & pretty, i want to find someone to get deep in the muscle and actually squeeze the muscle with finger tips, not glide over my skin using their forearms. Mr Lu makes me sweat from the pain and I realize deep tissues are painful, but he's over the top.

Any suggestions Roland? I've been looking at Glendora through Upland.

I noticed King's Gym has a "Massage" sign up, but i don't know if its for members only.
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hmm. id give kings a call to get more info on it. ive never really looked farther than my girlfriend for a massage. shes got this little thing of flash cards for ANY type of massage for ANY part of the body. her hands are literally magic.
and i dont really know of any massage places around here. maybe your chiro would be able to refer you to someone.
or have your girlfriend pick up some of those flash cards :D
 
Yeah some chiropractors have them there, those would probably be your best bet, or a ymca or something like that.
 
Irish Cannon said:
Usually college campuses will have them for cheap. Mine charges $15 for 30mins.
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WHAT!!!! I need to research that.

I went to the mall, many malls out in Southern California have Chinese Deep Tissue massage stations, almost like a booth. I drove to the Monteclair Mall for the sole intention and finding one of these guys. It was $30 for 30min, but compared to my previous lame @$$ forearm rub down "massage" it was worth it. They rubbed the dust out my traps, which is where I wanted and needed it most. I actually felt like some therapeutic work was getting done, and it was still deep tissue, but not Mr. Lu deep tissue where the pain outweighs the benefits. I actually almost fell asleep, so it was perfect.

The Mall might be my regular masseuse appointment unless I find something else (like this University dealy Irish spoke of).
 
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