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THUNDERGOD'S "STICKING" IT TO THE WICKED INJECTABLE CYCLE--Prop/Cyp Combo

great Job TG. Man you must have every DB weight out there!!! love seeing how you crush those numbers
 
damn it TG, I may just have to get myself a bunch of Test for this winter's cycle.

What ya think about this: November-January - 12 weeks (including Thanksgiving and Xmas dinners ;) ... no reason not to be super anabolic for those feasts!!!)

Test E or Cyp (which ya think?) - 500mg/Week (perhaps a bump to 600 or 750 for the last month)
Hdrol - 50/50/75/75/100/100/0/0/0/0/0/0
Pstanz - 300/300/300/300/300/300/0/0/0/0/0/0 (using this cause I have it... should I just use real winny? and save the PH's?)

HCG starting week 6 through PCT
PCT - 2 weeks post cycle, Nolva - 40/40/20/10
Clomid - 100/50/50/25
FormaD - 4caps/4caps/4caps/4caps

Sound good?
 
damn it TG, I may just have to get myself a bunch of Test for this winter's cycle.

What ya think about this: November-January - 12 weeks (including Thanksgiving and Xmas dinners ;) ... no reason not to be super anabolic for those feasts!!!)

Test E or Cyp (which ya think?) - 500mg/Week (perhaps a bump to 600 or 750 for the last month)
Hdrol - 50/50/75/75/100/100/0/0/0/0/0/0
Pstanz - 300/300/300/300/300/300/0/0/0/0/0/0 (using this cause I have it... should I just use real winny? and save the PH's?)

HCG starting week 6 through PCT
PCT - 2 weeks post cycle, Nolva - 40/40/20/10
Clomid - 100/50/50/25
FormaD - 4caps/4caps/4caps/4caps

Sound good?

Depending on where you get the gear and if reputable or not. Alot of people get Test E because of less freq injections and price, but I've seen a fair share of people get Prop because they want to know if their gear is real or not.

PH's like Hdrol and Pstanz are not needed...honestly. If going with injectables I would use something fast acting to kick start and sell all the other stuff. HCG shouldn't really be needed with a dose like that. Nolva too high, Clomid too high. Formadrol not needed. Nolva at 40mg will produce more strain on liver, require longer PCT to stabilize Estro levels after cycle, and require more tablets. Clomid only needs to be at 50/50/25/25...100mg is totally not needed. No reason to front load with crazy doses either. If hell bent on FormaD I would just run it stand alone couple weeks after PCT.

If acquiring UG stuff note that this stuff is overdosed due to the amount of powder they get. It costs the labs about $1 or less for each vial...sold for around 75-100 bucks. They acquire test powder from the chinese...alot...and they need to use it.
 
Depending on where you get the gear and if reputable or not. Alot of people get Test E because of less freq injections and price, but I've seen a fair share of people get Prop because they want to know if their gear is real or not.

PH's like Hdrol and Pstanz are not needed...honestly. If going with injectables I would use something fast acting to kick start and sell all the other stuff. HCG shouldn't really be needed with a dose like that. Nolva too high, Clomid too high. Formadrol not needed. Nolva at 40mg will produce more strain on liver, require longer PCT to stabilize Estro levels after cycle, and require more tablets. Clomid only needs to be at 50/50/25/25...100mg is totally not needed. No reason to front load with crazy doses either. If hell bent on FormaD I would just run it stand alone couple weeks after PCT.

If acquiring UG stuff note that this stuff is overdosed due to the amount of powder they get. It costs the labs about $1 or less for each vial...sold for around 75-100 bucks. They acquire test powder from the chinese...alot...and they need to use it.

Bump for what MrBigPR says here as far as the Nolva and Clomid doses, G-Money. Lower is better with these SERMs.

I would run real Winstrol and forget the PH's. 50mg. per day should suffice.

I'd go with Cypionate for the injectable. There has to be some reasoning behind why all these TRT doctors prescribe it more often than Enanthate. That was the basis behind my decision to go with the Cyp because Enanthate is actually cheaper. Maybe the ester of the Cyp is slightly longer than the E, though only by a small margin, but there's something behind them prescribing so many guys Cyp.
 
ONLY THE STRONG SHALL SURVIVE!!

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With Ragnarok looming ever nearer, it's time to "up my game" as mortals would say. Time to power up. Garner all the strength and stamina I possibly can. There's a war coming........like it or not!!! :twisted:

20 Minutes of HIIT exquisite excruciation on the glider machine.
330 nonstop rep ab attack with the following weapons: seated machine crunches, leg raises, and kneeling rope crunches.


Went all-out. Pools of perspiration and streams of sweat are flowing from me. Getting leaner, faster, stronger.......

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Went all-out. Pools of perspiration and streams of sweat are flowing from me. Getting leaner, faster, stronger.......

Way to kill it Mine Brother!!!! I had a great session as well!!! Had you kicking some serious Viking A$$ today!!!! And by the way... I love and hate you for those pre-exhaust!!!! :shocked: LOL
 
Bump for what MrBigPR says here as far as the Nolva and Clomid doses, G-Money. Lower is better with these SERMs.

I would run real Winstrol and forget the PH's. 50mg. per day should suffice.

I'd go with Cypionate for the injectable. There has to be some reasoning behind why all these TRT doctors prescribe it more often than Enanthate. That was the basis behind my decision to go with the Cyp because Enanthate is actually cheaper. Maybe the ester of the Cyp is slightly longer than the E, though only by a small margin, but there's something behind them prescribing so many guys Cyp.
That is because the only prescription Test available in the US is cypionate.
 
And by the way... I love and hate you for those pre-exhaust!!!! :shocked: LOL

:haha:

Save the hate for the weight.......:nono:


Leave the love to Thunder........:lol:
 
This is incorrect

Ive got friends on legit TRT, and they ALL say that the only prescription injectable test in the US is cypionate(this is straight from their doc's mouth according to some of them). Ive heard it several times and you are the 1st to say different.
 
Ive got friends on legit TRT, and they ALL say that the only prescription injectable test in the US is cypionate(this is straight from their doc's mouth according to some of them). Ive heard it several times and you are the 1st to say different.

Yes I believe test e is precribed for TRT and I believe members talk of this in the thread I posted before. I will review this info and also be finding out directly from my doc as I was recently put on TRT
 
If u read this thread pretty much every TRT doc precribed option is discussed and there are guys in this thread that are either on Test E or have been and Doc precribed

Hope this helps

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That is because the only prescription Test available in the US is cypionate.

No way bro. Prop, enanthate, and cypionate are all available. Hell they even make prescription grade winny as a form of hrt. Don't ask why, cuz it makes no sense to me, but my pharmacy is able to order it, and it's use says it's to replace the natural male androgen hormones when they are decreased below normal.
 
Ive got friends on legit TRT, and they ALL say that the only prescription injectable test in the US is cypionate(this is straight from their doc's mouth according to some of them). Ive heard it several times and you are the 1st to say different.

When it comes to medications, it's sad, but you need to listen to your local pharmacist, not your doctor. They only take months to study rx meds, pharmacists take years, usually 3-4 depending on the pharmacy school. Doc's prescribe drug strengths and forms that don't even exist every single day. Half of the time when we call and say "sorry, but this drug dos not exist or is not available in this form," they say "oh, well just change it to whatever you think is best." LOL. I'm not putting down doctors by any means, but when it comes to talking about interactions, detection times, proper strengths, etc, a pharmacist knows better than anyone else.
 
When it comes to medications, it's sad, but you need to listen to your local pharmacist, not your doctor. They only take months to study rx meds, pharmacists take years, usually 3-4 depending on the pharmacy school. Doc's prescribe drug strengths and forms that don't even exist every single day. Half of the time when we call and say "sorry, but this drug dos not exist or is not available in this form," they say "oh, well just change it to whatever you think is best." LOL. I'm not putting down doctors by any means, but when it comes to talking about interactions, detection times, proper strengths, etc, a pharmacist knows better than anyone else.

Truth.

Ironically a pharmacist just got in a sh*tload of trouble for changing some medicine (as in what was in it), it is considered practicing medicine, which a Pharmacist is not allowed to do. But like you said, they more often than not have much more drug knowledge than any doctor. Ironic. Plus you have to realize that most doctor's jobs are VERY generalized. Unless you are going to specialists, you are probably going to get a rather generic solution to most medical problems.
 
Morning TG what ou got insore for us today. I may just have to give some of ur routines a run for their money.looking for a new challenge :)
 
Truth.

Ironically a pharmacist just got in a sh*tload of trouble for changing some medicine (as in what was in it), it is considered practicing medicine, which a Pharmacist is not allowed to do. But like you said, they more often than not have much more drug knowledge than any doctor. Ironic. Plus you have to realize that most doctor's jobs are VERY generalized. Unless you are going to specialists, you are probably going to get a rather generic solution to most medical problems.

No way bro. Prop, enanthate, and cypionate are all available. Hell they even make prescription grade winny as a form of hrt. Don't ask why, cuz it makes no sense to me, but my pharmacy is able to order it, and it's use says it's to replace the natural male androgen hormones when they are decreased below normal.

When it comes to medications, it's sad, but you need to listen to your local pharmacist, not your doctor. They only take months to study rx meds, pharmacists take years, usually 3-4 depending on the pharmacy school. Doc's prescribe drug strengths and forms that don't even exist every single day. Half of the time when we call and say "sorry, but this drug dos not exist or is not available in this form," they say "oh, well just change it to whatever you think is best." LOL. I'm not putting down doctors by any means, but when it comes to talking about interactions, detection times, proper strengths, etc, a pharmacist knows better than anyone else.

:thumbsup:
 
Morning TG what ou got insore for us today. I may just have to give some of ur routines a run for their money.looking for a new challenge :)

Sadly, this is my 1 day off for the week. No weights, no cardio, nothing......
Weights are Wednesdays, Fridays, and Sundays. Cardio is Mondays, Thursdays, and Saturdays. Tuesday is total off day.

It bores the living shit out of me too. I'll go for a long walk this evening after dark. That's when the Thundergod heads out into the night-time world to do his duty. :hammer:

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Man, I love my nights off. :(

I have four of them a week right now. :lol:

Lucky suckah....

I have 2 nights off. Wednesdays and Thursdays.
So tonight is like my version of Friday.
The weekend is right around the corner. :biglaugh:
 
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I'd kill the cat, take it to a taxidermist and have it stuffed with a noose around its neck. Then I'd hang it back up for future pets to behold and beware!!!
 
All caught up, great workouts Thunder! Yeah I think that cat would be dead too!
 
yet you continue to grow :eek5: :thinking:

Ya, well, when you up the volume by threefold like we did, you've got to drop the frequency. - I definitely should up my cardio though.

TG, I'm testing out this no arm training thing right now. I can never seem to get my arms to grow, and the only thing I've never tried was avoiding direct training all together. I'm going to try that for a bit. If I don't see any change (either positive or negative), I'll probably start blasting them once every two weeks.
 
Ya, well, when you up the volume by threefold like we did, you've got to drop the frequency. - I definitely should up my cardio though.

TG, I'm testing out this no arm training thing right now. I can never seem to get my arms to grow, and the only thing I've never tried was avoiding direct training all together. I'm going to try that for a bit. If I don't see any change (either positive or negative), I'll probably start blasting them once every two weeks.

Dude, more and more I'm finding that heavy compound lifts are adding to my arms more than anything else - particularly Push-Press with a shoulder-width grip, and Weighted Chins and Power Cleans.
 
Arms have always been easy to grow for me. From the very beginning. I was like a young Arnold. All arms and not much else. Then after a year of incorrect training I caught up the rest of my body.
Still arms are just so easy to get to grow for me. And they're still my favorite bodyparts to work.
Bi's and Tri's. I have no preference really.
 
TG, I'm testing out this no arm training thing right now. I can never seem to get my arms to grow, and the only thing I've never tried was avoiding direct training all together. I'm going to try that for a bit. If I don't see any change (either positive or negative), I'll probably start blasting them once every two weeks.

If this doesn't work for you, you could always try the opposite approach. Give your way a try for a couple of months. If you don't experience some growth, start training them MORE frequently and with lots of volume. 3X per week with lots of various exercises and rep schemes. Shock and jolt them into new growth.

Something has to work!! :thumbsup:
 
Arms have always been easy to grow for me. From the very beginning. I was like a young Arnold. All arms and not much else. Then after a year of incorrect training I caught up the rest of my body.
Still arms are just so easy to get to grow for me. And they're still my favorite bodyparts to work.
Bi's and Tri's. I have no preference really.

I'm like you for the tris, but not for the bis... :thinking: no idea why that is too, but I can get my tris to blow up almost on demand, but the biceps just take longer... perhaps it's these long arms????
 
I'm like you for the tris, but not for the bis... :thinking: no idea why that is too, but I can get my tris to blow up almost on demand, but the biceps just take longer... perhaps it's these long arms????

Could be. But my arms are pretty darn long too.

I wish I could have had some kind of light shining upwards in these outdoor pics. You have to look hard to see the outline of the bottom of my arms (triceps) to see how big my arms really are.
 

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Could be. But my arms are pretty darn long too.

I wish I could have had some kind of light shining upwards in these outdoor pics. You have to look hard to see the outline of the bottom of my arms (triceps) to see how big my arms really are.

true but you have the DNA of the gods... unfair advantage I think



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Could be. But my arms are pretty darn long too.

I wish I could have had some kind of light shining upwards in these outdoor pics. You have to look hard to see the outline of the bottom of my arms (triceps) to see how big my arms really are.

how old are those and how do you compare now? :scared:
 
TG, you need some new pics bro!
 
Could be. But my arms are pretty darn long too.

I wish I could have had some kind of light shining upwards in these outdoor pics. You have to look hard to see the outline of the bottom of my arms (triceps) to see how big my arms really are.

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Waiting for the updated pics as well TG.

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That's just mean. :p

...you are being sarcastic, right? I think they look tiny. My arms are so weird. They look terrible unless flexed. The difference from unflexed to flexed is huge, especially in my triceps.

Oh shut up dude. You're arms are fine. But if you want, I'll trade you some of my arms for some of your quads.

Everyone has their "easy to grow" and "hard to grow" muscles. My back develops pretty easy, and apparently so do my hamstrings (once I figured out how to work them correctly) and my calves won't grow for anything... if I was to get to a competitive level of bodybuilding I imagine I would have to use synthol just to make them in proportion to the rest of my body. I'd never do that in a million years, but I am just saying.

Weighted dips and close grip bench have been the biggest arm builders for me. high intensity/low volume works the best for my arms. My arms LOVE DC.
 
how old are those and how do you compare now? :scared:

Those pics are 19 months old now. I didn't know much about dieting or cycling then. I weighed 235 or so in those pics.

Now I'm weighing 253lbs. with 2% lower bodyfat, looking much leaner and harder.

This last year has been the most productive year in my history (27 years) of weight-training.
 
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I'm fired up, pysched up, and juiced up!!! Ready to get my lift on and toss around some heavy ass weight. Nothing gonna deter me now. My game face and the Bear-Shirt are on. Serious business is about to be taken care of. In completely dominating fashion!!

Kevin Levrone gets me fired up to move some heavy iron. He's one strong son-of-a-bitch!!! :shocked:

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