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no way its 14 TG, not with those caverns in between your outer pecs and your lats. i would guess 10-10.5% tops.

def some water retention which makes this a hard thing to judge. regardless, you're in good shape, which is all that matters!
 
suncloud said:
no way its 14 TG, not with those caverns in between your outer pecs and your lats. i would guess 10-10.5% tops.

def some water retention which makes this a hard thing to judge. regardless, you're in good shape, which is all that matters!
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X2..i agree with suncloud!...good call!..t.g looks solid..!
 
I am around a percent higher then you and I was thinking I was around 13% right now. So 12% sounds about right.
 
I was gonna guess 12 as well. Lookin good TG! Anxiously awaiting your new pics! (no homo:rolleyes:)
 
Thanks for the opinions everyone! I especially liked Timber's assessment! :lol: I know what to do about the water retention next time. 2 words: Transdermal Formestane!!:head: It will harden everything up nicely, and dry me out as it lowers estrogen. It's the estrogen that usually bloats most guys. Those last pics were taken at the end of a 2 month natty cycle of using some sh!t products like a can of Universal Animal Stak 2 and a bottle of BioSciences Alpha Drive that I had lying around here for over a year. I thought I would use them up while doing the natty thing. Both were inexpensive and I soon learned why!! Very weak products. I don't recommmend them. But they may have boosted testosterone just enough to aromatize into estrogen, thus the water retention and bloatage. Next time for the new pics, 3 weeks of TD Form at full strength!! Besides, I will be doing a true recomp after Thanksgiving. That will also improve my condition. I'm seriously looking to drop to at least 8% bodyfat. I will not fail!! :head: New pics will be out no later than mid-January. I will be buff!! :bb3:
 
I use Formestane as a staple 100 mg (5 squirts of E-Form) 3 times a week on workout days 3 in the morning 2 in the evening. I am very happy with this protocol as I never have to increase the dosage. Seems to be a sweet spot for me.
 
thundergod said:
Thanks for the opinions everyone! I especially liked Timber's assessment! :lol: I know what to do about the water retention next time. 2 words: Transdermal Formestane!!:head: It will harden everything up nicely, and dry me out as it lowers estrogen. It's the estrogen that usually bloats most guys. Those last pics were taken at the end of a 2 month natty cycle of using some sh!t products like a can of Universal Animal Stak 2 and a bottle of BioSciences Alpha Drive that I had lying around here for over a year. I thought I would use them up while doing the natty thing. Both were inexpensive and I soon learned why!! Very weak products. I don't recommmend them. But they may have boosted testosterone just enough to aromatize into estrogen, thus the water retention and bloatage. Next time for the new pics, 3 weeks of TD Form at full strength!! Besides, I will be doing a true recomp after Thanksgiving. That will also improve my condition. I'm seriously looking to drop to at least 8% bodyfat. I will not fail!! :head: New pics will be out no later than mid-January. I will be buff!! :bb3:
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Bro, can you up the intensity a bit in here? Things seem a bit passive in this log..

LOL, j/k of course TG, your intensity knows no bounds. On the dieting front tho, you may be a little fast. Your slow & steady approach is the best route. Figure you can lose .5% BF per week after the initial water weight drops off, with minimal to no muscle loss. So let's just say you'll be at 10% after Thanksgiving; you're going to need 10 weeks to drop down to 5%, and when you get to that 5-6% mark, fat-loss slows bigtime, usually got to incorporate some tricks to get down to 4 & 3%. So you're not too far off, but I think Feb. 1st would be a better target date for ya.

In any event, you can most definitely do it. I'd like to see ya in the 220-225 range, shredded to the gills - that'd be cool!
 
snagency said:
Bro, can you up the intensity a bit in here? Things seem a bit passive in this log..

LOL, j/k of course TG, your intensity knows no bounds. On the dieting front tho, you may be a little fast. Your slow & steady approach is the best route. Figure you can lose .5% BF per week after the initial water weight drops off, with minimal to no muscle loss. So let's just say you'll be at 10% after Thanksgiving; you're going to need 10 weeks to drop down to 5%, and when you get to that 5-6% mark, fat-loss slows bigtime, usually got to incorporate some tricks to get down to 4 & 3%. So you're not too far off, but I think Feb. 1st would be a better target date for ya.

In any event, you can most definitely do it. I'd like to see ya in the 220-225 range, shredded to the gills - that'd be cool!
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.5 a week, I may even be slower than that myself. I will be satisfied with 8-10% though. Something I can maintain. I have the rest of my life lol. If I decide to compete again that's a different story and the tricks will have to come out of the bag. I hate using the tricks though...
 
DreamWeaver said:
.5 a week, I may even be slower than that myself. I will be satisfied with 8-10% though. Something I can maintain. I have the rest of my life lol. If I decide to compete again that's a different story and the tricks will have to come out of the bag. I hate using the tricks though...
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I hear ya. But it's cool getting to that point (3%)!

And TG -- my bad bro, I guess it's too early & I'm multi-tasking too much here this a.m., I read your post thinking you wanted to drop at least 8% bf, not get down to 8% level.. of course you can do this by mid-January bro, no worries at all. I was kinda wondering why you wanted to drop down to competition bf levels, just thought maybe you had something planned that I didn't know about..
 
snagency said:
I hear ya. But it's cool getting to that point (3%)!

And TG -- my bad bro, I guess it's too early & I'm multi-tasking too much here this a.m., I read your post thinking you wanted to drop at least 8% bf, not get down to 8% level.. of course you can do this by mid-January bro, no worries at all. I was kinda wondering why you wanted to drop down to competition bf levels, just thought maybe you had something planned that I didn't know about..
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Well, 8% is not competition ready IMO. It should be easy to maintain. I'm maintaining this 10% without even seeming like I'm trying to. LOL My diet is normal for me now. But it will be kicked up a notch after Thanksgiving. No snagency, I don't plan on competing. I never have before. This is just a hobby for me. And stress-release. Keeps me from killing a lot of evil-doers. LOL With this torn right pec, any competing ideas have flown out the window. But they did GIVE a Mr. Olympia title to Chris Dickerson back in 1982 who had a worse pec-tear than mine. I can't believe they let him win. And not because of the torn pec either. He just looked like sh!t IMO. :lol:
 
Australian made said:
dont say i didnt warn you on the aplha drive TG!!
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Yes you did Aussie!! And you were right. It's not even worth the measly $10 they charge for it. Live and learn. I had already purchased it before you told me it was worthless. Before I try anything else, I'll get everyone's opinions on the products in question.
 
Motivation Time!!!

I thought some of you Wrestling fans might like this video. John Cena is one strong mo-fo!! He recently had a neck injury and they fused a couple of vertabrae together. I wish him a speedy and successful recovery. Come back strong champ!! :head: Invalid Link Removed
 
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I thought some of you Wrestling fans might like this video. John Cena is one strong mo-fo!! He recently had a neck injury and they fused a couple of vertabrae together. I wish him a speedy and successful recovery. Come back strong champ!! :head: Invalid Link Removed
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Ah this guy's a technician...excellent form, full range of motion. So many of the bodybuilder clips I see they are using such crappy technique, makes you think they must be on some good shite to train that poorly and get that big. This guy is nice to watch.
 
Motivation Time!!!

Now I'm ready to wage all-out war on those evil unyeilding weights!! FOR GLORY, FOR HONOR, FOR ASGARD!! :duel: Invalid Link Removed
 
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Now I'm ready to wage all-out war on those evil unyeilding weights!! FOR GLORY, FOR HONOR, FOR ASGARD!! :duel: Invalid Link Removed
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killer track, killer pics!..the war has just started, i love the smell of steel in the morning, it..it..smells like victory!(appocolypse now!):duel:give it hell!..t.g..!:duel:
 
snagency said:
I hear ya. But it's cool getting to that point (3%)!

And TG -- my bad bro, I guess it's too early & I'm multi-tasking too much here this a.m., I read your post thinking you wanted to drop at least 8% bf, not get down to 8% level.. of course you can do this by mid-January bro, no worries at all. I was kinda wondering why you wanted to drop down to competition bf levels, just thought maybe you had something planned that I didn't know about..
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I read it the same way Snags...

TG at 3% bodyfat would be straight retarded... :lol:

8% would look incredible dude... I'm all about it. :head:
 
thundergod said:
I thought some of you Wrestling fans might like this video. John Cena is one strong mo-fo!! He recently had a neck injury and they fused a couple of vertabrae together. I wish him a speedy and successful recovery. Come back strong champ!! :head:
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I didn't know he was that strong. My buddy met him in an airport in Florida last summer, he was just chillin' unnoticed, lounging on a bench waiting for his plane. Matt walked up to him and they kicked it for awhile, said he was a pretty cool dude.
 
TimberLakers said:
I read it the same way Snags...

TG at 3% bodyfat would be straight retarded... :lol:

8% would look incredible dude... I'm all about it. :head:
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For sure, and it wouldn't be that hard to maintain at all. I think he'd look even bigger if he tightened it up a smidge, brought some cuts out & lines in the abs..
 
thundergod said:
No snagency, I don't plan on competing. I never have before. This is just a hobby for me. And stress-release. Keeps me from killing a lot of evil-doers. LOL With this torn right pec, any competing ideas have flown out the window.
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Absolutely bro! I'm a total d!ck if I don't get my workout (aka stress-relief) on!

But they did GIVE a Mr. Olympia title to Chris Dickerson back in 1982 who had a worse pec-tear than mine. I can't believe they let him win. And not because of the torn pec either. He just looked like sh!t IMO. :lol:
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The worst Mr. O selection ever?? Ya got my vote.
 
snagency said:
For sure, and it wouldn't be that hard to maintain at all. I think he'd look even bigger if he tightened it up a smidge, brought some cuts out & lines in the abs..
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That's the goal bro. And talking about my poor ol' abs. :sad: They look like fukkin' cinder blocks! :lol: Not lined up either. One side is higher than the other. Maybe it's from going so heavy on weighted ab exercises. I do kneeling cable crunches (via Arnold) with 120 lbs. for 20 reps. It's time to kick in some hanging and lying leg raises for those weak lower abs. Hey Snags, do you remember Boyer Coe from back in the day? He was an ab-less wonder wasn't he?! I wonder how that happened. I guess like my misaligned abs: genetics.
 
This shot shows my uneven abs.
 

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That's the goal bro. And talking about my poor ol' abs. :sad: They look like fukkin' cinder blocks! :lol: Not lined up either. One side is higher than the other. Maybe it's from going so heavy on weighted ab exercises. I do kneeling carble crunches (via Arnold) with 120 lbs. for 20 reps. It's time to kick in some hanging and lying leg raises for those weak lower abs. Hey sangs, do you remember Boyer Coe from back in the day? He was an ab-less wonder wasn't he?! I wonder how that happened. I guess like my misaligned abs: genetics.
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I guess I have that going for me. Mine line up straight across... When I can see em. :lol:

Best I have for lower abs is decline leg lifts with an ass raise at the end of the contraction. KILLER.
 
thundergod said:
That's the goal bro. And talking about my poor ol' abs. :sad: They look like fukkin' cinder blocks! :lol: Not lined up either. One side is higher than the other. Maybe it's from going so heavy on weighted ab exercises. I do kneeling carble crunches (via Arnold) with 120 lbs. for 20 reps. It's time to kick in some hanging and lying leg raises for those weak lower abs. Hey sangs, do you remember Boyer Coe from back in the day? He was an ab-less wonder wasn't he?! I wonder how that happened. I guess like my misaligned abs: genetics.
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Sure I remember Boyer. LOL on the ab-less wonder, so true tho. Genetics def. play a part in abs & how you have to work 'em. I agree with ya on the lower ab moves, maybe throw in some v-ups & reverse crunches to the mix, stay away from weighted moves for awhile. There's a lot of guys who have uneven abs, but if you shred it up right surrounding it, it don't look bad at all (in fact, looks kinda crazy badass imo!)..
 
You guys are always so supportive. I love you dudes!! And of course, no homo. That should go without saying though. LOL To get compliments from guys like snagency and DreamWeaver who have competed before and Timberlakers who knows alot about conditioning is a real thrill for me!! I'm just an arm-chair type of lifter! Well, maybe a little better than that! But you know what I'm trying to say. to hear you guys tell me that I look even somewhat decent is amazing to me. I must be doing something right here. And by the way, I had almost my entire workout logged and my fukkin' computer shut down. I was so mad I felt like working out again!! Let's try it again. NEWS FROM THE FRONTLINES: Heavy casusalties. On the weights that is! I killed 'em this morning! No more small-talk, let's dive on into the abyss!! NUMBERS ##--CHEST-- FLAT BENCH PRESSES: 345 x 8-4-2=14 total reps. Up 5 lbs. but down 1 rep. I am happy with this feat. Very happy. This one was for you, Russianstar! Back off at 225 X 16. Up 1 rep. I just have to outdo myself. PEC-DECK FLYES: 230 X 13. Up 1 rep. Back off at 150 X 21. Up 1 rep here as well. Lovin' it. Then I immediately did a set of INCLINE BENCH PRESSES: 155 X 16 just to finish them off! PULLOVERS: 160 X 12. PR!! Up 1 rep. Talk about brutal teeth-gnashing intensity! Back off at 100 X 20! Pumped!! ONE-ARM REGULAR CROSSOVERS: 80 x 12. Back off at 60 X 17. Up 2 reps. Than I immediately hit a set of STANDING PEC-DECK FLYES: 150 x 21 REPS! I love these. TRICEPS--STANDING TRICEPS BLASTER BAR PUSHDOWNS: 190 X 9-5-3=17 total reps. I put that bar I found to good use! Back off at 130 X 18!! They were on fire!! Whew!! SEATED ONE-ARM CABLE EXTENSIONS: 100 X 11. Up 1 rep. Back off at 60 X 20. These are really good for that inner head of the triceps. Makes you look like you have a slab of beef hanging off of your arm from the inner and back of the arm. REVERSE-GRIP PUSHDOWNS:150 X 14. PR. And that one was for you suncloud!! These are MUCH harder than overhand pushdowns. very strict movement. Back off at 100 X 19!! Torched 'em! DB KICKBACKS: 45'S x 15. That was all it took to finish 'em off right. My tri's are already sore. That's a good sign. I will be in DOMS city tomorrow!! As my hero the late Road Warrior Hawk used to say, "No pain, no gain!" And that is the truth! It's time to rest for a bit now. The Berzerker Rage has drained me. It's time to renew my strength. There are many more battles to be fought and glory to be enjoyed!! Fight on my warriors of the Realm!!
 
Aha, always enjoy the morning news from the frontlines..

Nice work on the 345 bench bro (let alone the 225 cool-down set), not bad at all for an arm-chair lifter such as yourself! :rolleyes:
 
Australian made said:
Fukkd up abbs didn't do Jay Cutler any harm.
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True dat!! And a huge GH belly didn't seem to hurt Coleman either. :lol: I'll NEVER have one of those. Tht's why the bodybuilders of yesteryear looked so good IMO. Small tight waists with nice sliced abs. Even the smaller guys today have those protruding guts. It's an embarassment to them if you ask me.
 
I want to keep my stomach and waist on the slim side if I can. I want to get everything else to get bigger though!! This shot shows that my gut isn't too big. I think. :think:
 

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True dat!! And a huge GH belly didn't seem to hurt Coleman either. :lol: I'll NEVER have one of those. Tht's why the bodybuilders of yesteryear looked so good IMO. Small tight waists with nice sliced abs. Even the smaller guys today have those protruding guts. It's an embarassment to them if you ask me.
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You and I have agreed on this point before TG. As much as I hate to, you gotta lay the blame on Dorian as to where bb'ing has gone. Dude got toooo freakin' beastly, everyone wanted to keep up. It would've happened sooner or later anyway w/o Dorian, but imo he was the catalyst that shaped that trend, much as I admire the cat.
 
So what do you guys think the WWE guys are running these days?

I mean, they have to be "on" as much as a pro-bodybuilder... these guys are jacked year around.

I mean, some guys like scott steiner and lex luger were obvious, but what about HHH and John Cena and Bautista?... obviously watching them over the years they are on SOMETHING...
 
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You and I have agreed on this point before TG. As much as I hate to, you gotta lay the blame on Dorian as to where bb'ing has gone. Dude got toooo freakin' beastly, everyone wanted to keep up. It would've happened sooner or later anyway w/o Dorian, but imo he was the catalyst that shaped that trend, much as I admire the cat.
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IMO the top bodybuilders mostly look like genetic experiments these days.

The weird thing is, Dorian probably didn't know the health risks involved with becomming so massive at the time, and using the drugs he did to get there. The guys nowadays know better, but they still use the sh*t because that's what they have to do to compete. I just hope that the sport doesn't turn into a bunch of syntholed' idiots like Greg Valentino.

Makes me long for the days of Arnold and Lou.
 
GMG760 said:
So what do you guys think the WWE guys are running these days?

I mean, they have to be "on" as much as a pro-bodybuilder... these guys are jacked year around.

I mean, some guys like scott steiner and lex luger were obvious, but what about HHH and John Cena and Bautista?... obviously watching them over the years they are on SOMETHING...
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It's fukcing crazy that Cena just had a neck fusion and looks like he never lost one ounce of muscle - dude is a freak.
His arms are impressive as hell.
Believe it or not, Batista looks bigger on TV than in real life. But Cena is actually larger, but shorter.
I only wish that I could get my hands on whatever compound it is that he's using.
 
Iron Lungz said:
It's fukcing crazy that Cena just had a neck fusion and looks like he never lost one ounce of muscle - dude is a freak.
His arms are impressive as hell.
Believe it or not, Batista looks bigger on TV than in real life. But Cena is actually larger, but shorter.
I only wish that I could get my hands on whatever compound it is that he's using.
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Anavar?
 
Iron Lungz, my brutha frum anutha mutha!! Whut up??!! I meant to PM you yesterday and wish you a Happy Veterans Day. But my computer has someone desperately trying to hack into it. But they can't! LOL But it did crash on me yesterday morning. My wife is a nurse and sometimes she works 12 to 14 hour shifts. She was at work until 10:00 P.M. last night. When got home and fixed it all for my retarded ass, I was too sleepy to fukk with it! So I want to wish you a belated Happy V-Day. I appreciate all the fighting men and women in our armed services. Keep up the good work soldier!! :head:
 
Batista looks good. But I was noticing Chris Jericho just the other night. He's in great shape now and bigger than before. But I swear he's getting that GH gut! Why do they do this? Who really wants a big gut??!! Yeah these guys are juicing no matter what Vince says. Hel, Vince is juicing too. At 62 years of age, he hit a 700 lb. bench squat and they showed it on TV. It was awesome. But he is NOT natural. :lol:
 
thundergod said:
Batista looks good. But I was noticing Chris Jericho just the other night. He's in great shape now and bigger than before. But I swear he's getting that GH gut! Why do they do this? Who really wants a big gut??!! Yeah these guys are juicing no matter what Vince says. Hel, Vince is juicing too. At 62 years of age, he hit a 700 lb. bench squat and they showed it on TV. It was awesome. But he is NOT natural. :lol:
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It's not like Vince has had a reputation as a steroid dealer for 20+ years or anything... :lol:
 
thundergod said:
Iron Lungz, my brutha frum anutha mutha!! Whut up??!! I meant to PM you yesterday and wish you a Happy Veterans Day. But my computer has someone desperately trying to hack into it. But they can't! LOL But it did crash on me yesterday morning. My wife is a nurse and sometimes she works 12 to 14 hour shifts. She was at work until 10:00 P.M. last night. When got home and fixed it all for my retarded ass, I was too sleepy to fukk with it! So I want to wish you a belated Happy V-Day. I appreciate all the fighting men and women in our armed services. Keep up the good work soldier!! :head:
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Much appreciation, TG!
:thumbsup:
The tracking number for your package states DC will be on Friday. I guess the Post Office closes for Veterans Day.
 
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It's not like Vince has had a reputation as a steroid dealer for 20+ years or anything... :lol:
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For real. Wasn't it Hulk Hogan that ratted him out years ago??!! And then Vince forgives him and brings him back later on. You gotta admire Vince McMahon. Or at least I do!!
 
Iron Lungz said:
It's fukcing crazy that Cena just had a neck fusion and looks like he never lost one ounce of muscle - dude is a freak.
His arms are impressive as hell.
Believe it or not, Batista looks bigger on TV than in real life. But Cena is actually larger, but shorter.
I only wish that I could get my hands on whatever compound it is that he's using.
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we should ask vince mcmahon!..i think his tapping into whatever there on!:food:
 
Iron Lungz said:
Much appreciation, TG!
:thumbsup:
The tracking number for your package states DC will be on Friday. I guess the Post Office closes for Veterans Day.
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Yeah, they were closed yesterday. It's all good my brutha!! I'm looking forward to those stims!! :head:
 
thundergod said:
Yeah, they were closed yesterday. It's all good my brutha!! I'm looking forward to those stims!! :head:
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And there are a lot of stims for you... and something else that will help your recomp. :D
Also, there will be a red bag with 4 red pills. That is the new version of X-Force. Try it and let me know how you like it.
Mini review would be awesome! ;)
 
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I want to keep my stomach and waist on the slim side if I can. I want to get everything else to get bigger though!! This shot shows that my gut isn't too big. I think. :think:
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I am killing myself trying to get a gut like that. If I can eventually pull that off I will be set. What am I saying? We are never satisfied are we.
 
Iron Lungz said:
And there are a lot of stims for you... and something else that will help your recomp. :D
Also, there will be a red bag with 4 red pills. That is the new version of X-Force. Try it and let me know how you like it.
Mini review would be awesome! ;)
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Mini review will be forthcoming!! You can count on it sir. I'll take those first. Stay tuned! :type:
 
Silver3CSRT8 said:
I am killing myself trying to get a gut like that. If I can eventually pull that off I will be set. What am I saying? We are never satisfied are we.
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No, we are NEVER satisfied. That's what makes lifting so fukkin' cool. You can keep on getting better and better and keep making improvements well into your years. You will get that washboard gut Silver. With your dedication and enthusiasm for lifting, it's pre-ordained!! :head:
 
I think a good amount of those wrestlers are on massive amounts of HGH - particularly the ones with the gigantic livers... Honestly though - some may have ran gear in the past and just go natural after they attain a certain amount of size. Its not impossible to maintain most of that mass with proper training and diet.
 
TimberLakers said:
I think a good amount of those wrestlers are on massive amounts of HGH - particularly the ones with the gigantic livers... Honestly though - some may have ran gear in the past and just go natural after they attain a certain amount of size. Its not impossible to maintain most of that mass with proper training and diet.
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oh for sure a lot of these guys hit hgh hard! look at brock... there is an example of a guy or even tito ortiz. take a look at tito's pictures between his 2nd year and 3rd year in college!

-GJJ
 
Very hard to clean up sports when the administrators turn a blind eye to whats happening with roids/hgh. Look where Lex Luger is today, he was used then spat out. Look at The Ultimate Warrior (love that guy). All the Methyl in the world wont give you the distended gut bloated look. So if thats the look your after hook yourself up with some HGH!!!
AZZA
 
Well, good thing wrestling isn't a sport... :lol:

It's entertainment... be entertained.

The UFC on the other hand. Anabolic usage in there is way more prevelant than anyone suspects.
 
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