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think i've got my next madness cycle figured out

UnrealMachine said:
i didn't expect much from the halodrol anyway, and it is contributing some hardness. my cycle is actually going pretty well, it's just that I am always amazed by how weak anabolics are for me. I am making progress tho, maintaining 95% of strength while dropping bodyfat at a pretty good rate. I'll try to get some pictures up in the next few days.
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Maybe up the dose on some of this stuff?
 
yeah i tried high dosing oils on my last cycle and it was a waste of oil. maybe i'll just blast my halodrol but i feel like it's going to waste when I take it. 10mg of SD does more than 100mg of halodrol. Anyway... 229 pounds today... not bad to be recomping at 230 pounds can't complain too much... :). Saw someone at the gym benching halfway down. Time to rant: i'm tired of this ****. I've seen not just a few but lots of guys at this gym and at other gyms benching with a 6" range of motion. And they think they're working their chest or something.

Ya bro it's great that you did 275 pounds on bench but you did 2 reps and you went down about 5 inches. Way to take a chest exercise, and then COMPLETELY take chest out of the equation, and make it some ***** pseudo tricep press.

I hope there's not a single person on this forum that benches halfway down. I have to stop myself from going up to these people and trying to help them because it's not possible for to do without pointing out that what they're doing is retarded. The other day my buddy went over to some guys benching trying to help them understand that you can't work your chest if you bench halfway down. They ignored him and proceeded to do incline with such atrocious form that it hurt to watch.
 
UnrealMachine said:
yeah i tried high dosing oils on my last cycle and it was a waste of oil. maybe i'll just blast my halodrol but i feel like it's going to waste when I take it. 10mg of SD does more than 100mg of halodrol. Anyway... 229 pounds today... not bad to be recomping at 230 pounds can't complain too much... :). Saw someone at the gym benching halfway down. Time to rant: i'm tired of this ****. I've seen not just a few but lots of guys at this gym and at other gyms benching with a 6" range of motion. And they think they're working their chest or something.

Ya bro it's great that you did 275 pounds on bench but you did 2 reps and you went down about 5 inches. Way to take a chest exercise, and then COMPLETELY take chest out of the equation, and make it some ***** pseudo tricep press.

I hope there's not a single person on this forum that benches halfway down. I have to stop myself from going up to these people and trying to help them because it's not possible for to do without pointing out that what they're doing is retarded. The other day my buddy went over to some guys benching trying to help them understand that you can't work your chest if you bench halfway down. They ignored him and proceeded to do incline with such atrocious form that it hurt to watch.
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Yeah, F**k that! The bar damn near touches my chest, sometimes it touches for a split second but normally it just brushes on my shirt and gets pounded back up. If im tired or worn out I'll drop the weight, but anything that helps me get a full rep.

My chest HAS been getting a bit weaker because of the fact that Ive been trying to hit back twice as much to fix my imbalance (and its working well so far!)... But I just never understood some people budging heavy weight for a whole 2-5 inches. Penochas! lol
 
some clown ass in my gym does that, he decided to max out on his modified floor press bp and tore his rotator cuff / elbow or something.

hes been gone for a while, gotta say... I laughed
 
Most people think their doing it right in their head but it's usually something they have to figure out for themselves IMO. In order for the muscle to grow correctly it must be exercised correctly, I think it's kinda like teaching a child to ride a bike, you can tell them what to do and give them a push but THEY have to learn to keep their own balence and keep peddeling
 
day 85

somehow still 229 pounds

chest

had no spotter so just did a lot of dumbell flys:
flat dumbell flys: 55*10, 60*10, 65*10
i don't like going heavy w/out a spotter so i then went lighter
40*20, 45*20, 50*20
then incline db flys: 50*10, 50*10
then cable flys 2 sets
then incline pushups 3 burnout sets

it was an OK workout. I'm increasing my doses... 125mg of halodrol and 30mg of SD pulsed on workout days. I am allowed to dose this high cuz my bloodwork showed AST/ALT in the mid 60's after 37 days on a superdrol/pheraplex combination... which demonstrated to my personal satisfaction that my liver is abnormally resilient... And I would recommend everyone who hasn't gotten bloodwork done to see how their body handles oral steroids to avoid dosing this high. Thank you.
 
hmmm not bed i like ur cycle halodrol base with SD pulse. hmm ever thought about combining T3T4 together i hear it gives a better result than T3 alone it was while ago not sure why, but then again i could have been mistaken......

oh man show some pics im curious to see how ur waist looks? last time u send me months ago was not too bad.
 
or low dose clen/T3 they work in synergy plus keep eachothers receptors sensitive
 
sorry for a triple post........ (3.5 scoops of jack3d)

last time to feel real effects of clen i took it to 220mcg with benedryl everday... so next time instead i am thinkin 100 clen and maybe 50mcg of T3 since they work in syngergy with epi or halo stacked with winstrol cut around march
 
hmm well jasen i only got T3. i think the SD stopped my weightloss and that's why its holding constant now. Anyway i was going to take pictures today but I need to charge my camera. So probably tonight or tomorrow.

I am definitely looking leaner. But not ripped like in my avatar, not yet...

clen + t3 with those anabolics is probably a good combination. but if you need 220mcg of clen then 100mcg won't be doing much. 220 sounds like way too much though. Idk. i don't like clen much. But lol i've still got some.
 
its is weird 220 clen is good with very lil jitters and sides btu give me 25mg of ephedra and i cant take it more than 5 weeks

but from what i have read clen is a body response supp, everyone has their own dose based on genetics.
 
sup

day 86

227 pounds (so light!)

back
bent over rows: 225*10, 245*10, 275*10
lat pull downs: 260*10, 280*10, 300*10
t-bar row (machine, harder than freeweight): 135*8, 180*8, 205*6
iso row machine: 135*10, 160*10

just tried to keep the weight solid doing sets of 10 nothing wrong with the workout

looking a bit leaner but a long ways from being ripped like I want

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if that's not ripped im jumping off a bridge RIGHT NOW. lol

and tbar machine HARDER than the real thing? WEIRD.. I went and used the machine the other day at the gym and it just seemed like cake because of the wider grip... hmmm
 
my machine is way harder. I struggle with more than 4 plates. Real T-bars I can do 5+ plates no problem. With real t-bar rows you are in such a powerful position, and I maintain that a closer grip is much easier than a wider grip, and you can move your whole body around a little bit more.

i dont think i'm ripped. Maybe i'm 10% bodyfat. Starting to tear into the 9's. I dont know tho i'm just guessing. Ripped I'd say is like 8% and under. That's the goal.
 
omg so i had 30mg of SD for the last 2 days and this stuff has taken hold ;)

hard, pumped, veiny. had some cramps earlier today. Have a headache right now. Yep i guess i stack enough **** together and i can get some BP headaches. Very exciting :). I've been really sweaty too so i know my metabolism is jazzed so much from the T3. I love the combination of lots of T3 and strong anabolics, just creates a perfect recomping environment.

My diet has been so flawless. I am low-carbing hardcore. Anyway very excited. I think my pictures ^ shows that i am significantly leaner than before. 3 more weeks on this good stuff :)
 
UnrealMachine said:
omg so i had 30mg of SD for the last 2 days and this stuff has taken hold ;)

hard, pumped, veiny. had some cramps earlier today. Have a headache right now. Yep i guess i stack enough **** together and i can get some BP headaches. Very exciting :). I've been really sweaty too so i know my metabolism is jazzed so much from the T3. I love the combination of lots of T3 and strong anabolics, just creates a perfect recomping environment.

My diet has been so flawless. I am low-carbing hardcore. Anyway very excited. I think my pictures ^ shows that i am significantly leaner than before. 3 more weeks on this good stuff :)
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Hell ya, sounds good brah, glad everything is going in the right direction for you big man! :bigok:
 
UnrealMachine said:
hmm well jasen i only got T3. i think the SD stopped my weightloss and that's why its holding constant now.
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would you say thats changed just recently unreal? when you say "weightloss" do you mean your just average weight in general or are you talking about fatloss? is the SD messing with your fatloss?
 
hard iron said:
would you say thats changed just recently unreal? when you say "weightloss" do you mean your just average weight in general or are you talking about fatloss? is the SD messing with your fatloss?
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i mean my weight was dropping and then the SD kicked in shifting me toward retaining some water/glycogen and building muscle so then it slowed down (still losing fat of course! SD does not impede fatloss). Now my weight should drop steadily from teh combination of stuff i'm on and my low carb diet however i'm going to slow down into a recomp so I can stay in the 220-225 range. I do not want to get under 220. 220 and 8% that's the goal right now.
 
my diet has 6 meals
1 pre-wo lots of carbs
2 post wo lots of carbs
3/4/5/6 are all low carbs so no direct carb sources at all really

im getting about 60-70g of carbs pre and post workout. Grand total for the whole day is probably around 160g. Protein i'm hitting around 350g. I really dunno what the fat is at. Probably not much over 100g. So that looks like close to 3k calories wow sooo low for being like 230 pounds
 
UnrealMachine said:
i mean my weight was dropping and then the SD kicked in shifting me toward retaining some water/glycogen and building muscle so then it slowed down (still losing fat of course! SD does not impede fatloss). Now my weight should drop steadily from teh combination of stuff i'm on and my low carb diet however i'm going to slow down into a recomp so I can stay in the 220-225 range. I do not want to get under 220. 220 and 8% that's the goal right now.
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one more question brother, would you say superdrol is still reacting well to your somewhat low carb diet at the time? and would this give you reason to belive that its not quite the carb monster everyone says it is in some cirumstances?, i belive you said your only really taking carbs in pre and post w.o, im sorry, im planning on running superdrol on a keto cutting diet and im just trying to take notes here on how your reacting to it along with t3, test, etc, haha

could you comment on keto diets involving sd?
 
Sweet jesus your a beast bro.

Ive been tampering with carbs before I got hurt and carb cycling was pretty effective plus doing an ECA stack with it.

I may try your diet and see if it benefits me...a guy who has no trouble bulking or putting weight on but getting ripped is like trying to sell a lightbulb to the amish lol.
 
@ hardiron SD works fine with low carbs for me, have done it before. Have gone straight keto on SD and its fine... my body works great on low carbs and lots of carbs with SD gave me nasty bloat. That's just how i personally respond to carbs.

Some people need carbs on SD from what they say. I suppose these are the same people that need carbs to have energy. They say that low carb diets make them tired... See i can cut out my carbs completely and there's no difference in my energy levels. I have a slow metabolism, i'm constantly in a state of low energy, and I don't gain energy from eating any kinds of carbs even sugar, just don't notice anything.
So what you're trying to do will work just fine if you're the kind of person that doesn't need carbs.

@Mactruck it is very difficult for me to lose weight too and I never in my life thought i would be ripped until last summer, which is really the first time in my life i got significantly under 10%... I'd say I'm at equilibrium at 15% and tend to gain weight very easily. For me the low carb diet is important, and going to the gym at least everyday. The T3 and stims just speeds up the fatloss. The anabolics retain muscle. Actually at my doses I should be able to recomp and gain a bit of strength in the next few weeks.
 
Good to know me having the abs I used to check out when I was 6 years old isnt exactly just a pipe dream I guess lol.

Speaking of abs what do you do for abs? Sorry for all the questions btw
 
UnrealMachine said:
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Veerrrryy nice compared to previous. You look WAY leaner.

Your Avi is still disgusting though. I don't know if you can ever beat that Avi LOL ;)

I always think those are weed crops behind you...

I'm glad everything is working and your on your way to achieving your goals brotha. Good stuff. Keep showing us how it's done :)
 
thx CM, i wish i lived in a forest of weed plants

@ mactruck, i just do 6 sets of weighted ab exercises twice a week. Just try to make strong ab muscles, and then lower bodyfat to reveal them.
 
day 87

227 pounds

just did some cardio

while doing cardio i just watch people in teh gym and make fun of them in my head. Like this one guy spent 20 minutes sitting on a bench press where he did like 1 warmup set and then three more sets...
1) 275*2 going about 5" down
2) 275*1 going all the way down and assisted allll the way up by his spotter
3) 245*2 going about 5" down
Really funny to see someoen sit on the bench for 20 minutes and do 5 reps, none of which could even be counted as a complete rep.

Uhm... i'm doing good can't wait to lift tomorrow cuz that means I got to pop more SD
 
great thread.

do you think you'll be thyroid suppressed after coming off the T3?

definitely a good log

ps with regards to watching people, our gym is full of people who do 1 set and then spend 5 min on their phone but still hog the machines/benches.
 
thyroid suppression is different from HPTA suppression, the reversal is spontaneous, quick, and requires no assistance (PCT). So I am not at all worried about coming off of T3. People have used it for years and then come off and had their levels return to normal very quickly.
 
UnrealMachine said:
day 87

227 pounds

just did some cardio

while doing cardio i just watch people in teh gym and make fun of them in my head. Like this one guy spent 20 minutes sitting on a bench press where he did like 1 warmup set and then three more sets...
1) 275*2 going about 5" down
2) 275*1 going all the way down and assisted allll the way up by his spotter
3) 245*2 going about 5" down
Really funny to see someoen sit on the bench for 20 minutes and do 5 reps, none of which could even be counted as a complete rep.

Uhm... i'm doing good can't wait to lift tomorrow cuz that means I got to pop more SD
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That's funny about the guy benching. I see it quite a bit too, swear so many guys car about how much weight is on the bar and are never working the muscle at all. I'm sticking to no lower than 6 GOOD reps from now on. I can't wait till monday, I'll be poppin some SD as well :)
 
UnrealMachine said:
thyroid suppression is different from HPTA suppression, the reversal is spontaneous, quick, and requires no assistance (PCT). So I am not at all worried about coming off of T3. People have used it for years and then come off and had their levels return to normal very quickly.
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nice to know

thanks
 
Only thing that gets me through cardio is staring at a hotties ass on a treadmill ahead of me....call me a creep but it works.

Though usually requires me having to rub one out after the gym :D
 
MacTruck33 said:
Only thing that gets me through cardio is staring at a hotties ass on a treadmill ahead of me....call me a creep but it works.

Though usually requires me having to rub one out after the gym :D
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Hahaha, this is exactly what I do! Well I don't go rub one out after the gym though. LOL
 
day 88
226 pounds!

shoulders
iso press: 90*15, 180*12, 210*10, 230*8, 270*2 (owww fail)
upright rows: 135*15, 145*12, 155*10 (same as last time)
lateral db raises (one arm at a time): 45*20, 45*20
front db raises (one arm at a time): 45*15
rear db raises: 35*18, 35*18

ok workout not too special, T3 wears down my stamina a bit I think, and no jack3d these days, hard to keep pushing and i'm soo sweaty. But thanks to SD i'm getting great pumps and its a bit easier to keep pushing. I looked really, really good while doing this workout, look very hard and vascular, i can tell that i'm making great progress right now so i'm vary pleased to just maintain strength while i'm dropping fat this fast.
 
day 89

226 lbs (# looks so light to me)

arms

standing dumbell curls: 65*6, 70*6, 75*6, 80*6 still strong here
cable pushdowns: 150*10, 160*9 (excellent, 160 on pushdowns is sooo heavy)
CGBP: 225*10, 245*10, 265*8 (down a rep actually)
standing ez bar curls: 125*10, 145*10, 165*6 (stupidly heavy, such hard reps)

at that point i was about to do more but my stomach was feeling nauseous again. My workout was intense but the volume was so low it should not have been so bad. In my mind i've been blaming the T3. Outside of the gym i feel great all the time of course... feels like i'm dragging in the gym though and have to push myself harder to keep going. Def. makes me think it's the T3, bigzach mentioned this. And I'm pretty solidly on 75-80mcg everyday

also i want to drop the test. it doesn't really do anything, but i'm tired of taking AI's to deal with nipple puffiness and sensitivity. I'll just pump pure mast instead and see if that can make a drier look. It'll be a fun experiment :)
 
UnrealMachine said:
day 89

226 lbs (# looks so light to me)

arms

standing dumbell curls: 65*6, 70*6, 75*6, 80*6 still strong here
cable pushdowns: 150*10, 160*9 (excellent, 160 on pushdowns is sooo heavy)
CGBP: 225*10, 245*10, 265*8 (down a rep actually)
standing ez bar curls: 125*10, 145*10, 165*6 (stupidly heavy, such hard reps)

at that point i was about to do more but my stomach was feeling nauseous again. My workout was intense but the volume was so low it should not have been so bad. In my mind i've been blaming the T3. Outside of the gym i feel great all the time of course... feels like i'm dragging in the gym though and have to push myself harder to keep going. Def. makes me think it's the T3, bigzach mentioned this. And I'm pretty solidly on 75-80mcg everyday

also i want to drop the test. it doesn't really do anything, but i'm tired of taking AI's to deal with nipple puffiness and sensitivity. I'll just pump pure mast instead and see if that can make a drier look. It'll be a fun experiment :)
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Wait I just noticed when u train arms u do only 2bicep 2tricep ?
 
UM you sure you want to drop the test?

I think the bigger you are, the less pronounced effects test will have on you.

How big were you when you ran test last time and saw nothing from it?

I imagine if you keep cutting weight like you are, test will show itself more you know?
 
i don't think it matters how big I am, test is just like, practically nothing for me. Same with halodrol i'm running 100-125mg everyday and at first I felt some hardness but now I barely notice anything. Same with epi and prostanozol and trenadrol and the masteron blah blah etc. etc. all just do nothing i'm tired of arguing it because it's something i've had to accept.

SD is saving me here, once i added it in, i got better pumps and fullness, I am confident I can keep my strength in the next couple weeks using 30mg 4x a week of SD and reverse what the T3 has been doing.

I'm dropping the test because it's not doing anything but giving me puffy nips and I'm tired of dealing with puffy nips for 3 months straight. I can't look jacked with my nips looking puffy so often. As for libido I've done plenty of cycles with no test and never any problems so i'm really not concerned.

Really... I'll drop the test and there won't be any significant differences... just wait and see.

CM keep in mind the first time I used test early in 2009, I had essentially come off SD into nothing (bunk test and no PCT) and about a month later I started pinning prop 700mg a week. Going from post-SD no PCT test levels to high test cycle levels was a pretty insignificant difference.

I know its hard to believe, and some people still don't believe me, or still insist that all the test i've ever used has been fake, but it is what it is. And my bloodwork doesn't lie so the test isn't fake BTW lol...


what I want to do:
mast enanthate 2mL 2x a week for 800mg everyweek
i'm doing 100mg of halodrol and 30mg of SD on lift days 4x a week
125mg of halodrol on cardio days

its hard to believe but the mast and halodrol are really doing very little beyond some hardening which at this point (with this amount of T3 catabolism going on) is barely perceptible. Honestly if i want to make gains like other people I'll have to start cycling like Jasen :).
 
Fu unreal lmao!!!!! Just let me pan out your next cycle loll I loved my last cycle just not the loss in libido now F clomid not doing **** . That's why soon I'm going on triazole and activate
 
Ill do bulk or cut cycle ull get results lol
 
Same for me, just libido and recovery go up
 
ya Jasen understands I've talked to jasen a lot about general response to steroids and we are both similar in that we can tolerate pretty huge amounts of various steroids with very few side effects and also similar in that we get very little from a lot of compounds... So the way we cycle is rather out of necessity; it's what we need to make gains... I still give jasen sh1t because his cycles look so reckless but I'm getting to be in the same spot so I understand completely :).

Right now what i'm doing is halodrol 125mg on cardio days, 100mg stacked with 30mg SD on lifting days, and 800mg of masteron every week. Today my weigh in was super duper low 224 so i'm dropping T3 down to 50mcg and i've been trying to refeed myself today.
 
Unreal, I still say you should use progestins like deca or tren!!!!
You say you get evil gyno from it, but if you run low dose caber, you will be fine..
 
UnrealMachine said:
ya Jasen understands I've talked to jasen a lot about general response to steroids and we are both similar in that we can tolerate pretty huge amounts of various steroids with very few side effects and also similar in that we get very little from a lot of compounds... So the way we cycle is rather out of necessity; it's what we need to make gains... I still give jasen sh1t because his cycles look so reckless but I'm getting to be in the same spot so I understand completely :).

Right now what i'm doing is halodrol 125mg on cardio days, 100mg stacked with 30mg SD on lifting days, and 800mg of masteron every week. Today my weigh in was super duper low 224 so i'm dropping T3 down to 50mcg and i've been trying to refeed myself today.
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See mine are reckless but yours never stop lol but yeah we both don't get much from test next cycle ill just run huge dose human test with erase to combat gyno. and maybe some eq our another inj
 
Yeah tren ace will def do you goodwith some m1t
 
Dude........ Super human
 
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