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Interested in a natural test boost, stength and libido and sense of well being, mood elevation and good sleep
Any ideas?
Any ideas?
Two great options are Performax AlphaMax XT and OL Test1fy. I have not used Test1fy before, but I have used AlphaMax XT and enjoy it.Interested in a natural test boost, stength and libido and sense of well being, mood elevation and good sleep
Any ideas?
You're not serious... are you..?Core Nutritionals Core Alpha. It has testing behind it...blood testing before and after taking the product etc. It's also the only natural test boosting product that I noticed a significant difference.
There are far better natty options than DAA. Remember, a natty test booster IS NOT going to provide you the benefits associated with supraphysiological testosterone levels.Where is the DAA in these products?
D-POL (Vitamin D3 5000ui + 3g DAA)
I dont believe in natty plants.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25844073Twenty-four males, with a minimum of two years' experience in resistance training, (age, 24.5 ± 3.2 y; training experience, 3.4 ± 1.4 y; height, 178.5 ± 6.5 cm; weight, 84.7 ± 7.2 kg; bench press 1-RM, 105.3 ± 15.2 kg) were randomised into one of three groups: 6 g.d(-1) plain flour (D0); 3 g.d(-1) of d-aspartic acid (D3); and 6 g.d(-1) of d-aspartic acid (D6). Participants performed a two-week washout period, training four days per week. This continued through the experimental period (14 days), with participants consuming the supplement in the morning. Serum was analysed for levels of testosterone, estradiol, sex hormone binding globulin, albumin and free testosterone was determined by calculation.
D-aspartic acid supplementation revealed no main effect for group in: estradiol; sex-hormone-binding-globulin; and albumin. Total testosterone was significantly reduced in D6 (P = 0.03). Analysis of free testosterone showed that D6 was significantly reduced as compared to D0 (P = 0.005), but not significantly different to D3. Analysis did not reveal any significant differences between D3 and D0. No significant correlation between initial total testosterone levels and responsiveness to d-aspartic acid was observed (r = 0.10, P = 0.70).
The present study demonstrated that a daily dose of six grams of d-aspartic acid decreased levels of total testosterone and free testosterone (D6), without any concurrent change in other hormones measured. Three grams of d-aspartic acid had no significant effect on either testosterone markers. It is currently unknown what effect this reduction in testosterone will have on strength and hypertrophy gains.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24074738Resistance-trained men resistance trained 4 times/wk for 28 days while orally ingesting either 3 g of placebo or 3 g of D-ASP. Data were analyzed with 2 × 2 analysis of variance (P < .05).
The gonadal hormones were unaffected by 28 days of D-ASP supplementation and not associated with the observed increases in muscle strength and mass. Therefore, at the dose provided, D-ASP supplementation is ineffective in up-regulating the activity of the hypothalamo-pituitary-gonadal axis and has no anabolic or ergogenic effects in skeletal muscle.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4658772/This study reports that ashwagandha supplementation is associated with significant increases in muscle mass and strength and suggests that ashwagandha supplementation may be useful in conjunction with a resistance training program.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2996571/500mg ashwagandha root extract daily for 8 weeks given to healthy young adults was able to increase VO2 max by 6.9% compared to an increase of 0.2% with placebo, increase average absolute power by 8.8% compared to 1.2% with placebo, increase average relative power by 12%, compared to 0.6% with placebo, an increase balance by 10.7%, compared to no change with placebo.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3545242/1000mg ashwagandha root extract daily for 8 weeks given to elite Indian cyclists was able to increase time to exhaustion by 7.2%, compared to an increase of 0.1% with placebo, and increase VO2 max by 12.6% compared to a decrease of 0.4% with placebo.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3487234/An average of 1000mg ashwagandha root extract daily for 30 days in healthy volunteers was able to increase lean body mass by 4lbs, decrease body fat by 2.27%, and increase quadriceps force by 21.5%.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16129715Oral ingestion of forskolin (250 mg of 10% forskolin extract twice a day) for a 12-week period was shown to favorably alter body composition while concurrently increasing bone mass and serum free testosterone levels in overweight and obese men. The results indicate that forskolin is a possible therapeutic agent for the management and treatment of obesity.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3669033/Significant improvements were found in the TA group for Tension (−11%), Anger (−12%), and Confusion (−15%). Stress hormone profile (salivary cortisol and testosterone) was significantly improved by TA supplementation, with reduced cortisol exposure (−16%) and increased testosterone status (+37%).
These results indicate that daily supplementation with tongkat ali root extract improves stress hormone profile and certain mood state parameters, suggesting that this “ancient” remedy may be an effective approach to shielding the body from the detrimental effects of “modern” chronic stress, which may include general day-to-day stress, as well as the stress of dieting, sleep deprivation, and exercise training.
The first study I referenced regarding DAA was published recently (2015), and used subjects with at least 2 years experience resistance training, and the study also had subjects train 4-days a week. If you look at the full text (which I put a link to below), you'll see that both 3g and 6g DAA REDUCED free testosterone relative to no DAA (although the decrease was only significant in the 6g group):Wha???? A year ago there were many tests showing DAA rising test levels. So, it all went down the river? DAA dont work?
Well, i confess my test boosters are clomid and anastrozole, so i dont know what actually work these days in the sups infinite market.
But good stuff u posted, thanks.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4384294/Our results demonstrate that in resistance trained men three grams daily of d-aspartic acid had no significant effect on total testosterone, estradiol, sex-hormone-binding-globulin, and albumin. This is contrary to the evidence provided by Topo et al. [12], where the cohort consumed the same dose over 12 days and reported elevated total testosterone levels (~42%). Baseline testosterone levels of the current study were higher than values found in Topo et al. [12] (6.3 and 4.5 ng.ml−1 respectively), presumably because the cohort in the Topo et al. study were sedentary [12]. In resistance training literature, total testosterone levels range from 5.8–8.6 ng.ml−1 [4,14] for trained individuals and 4.9–6.6 ng.ml−1 for untrained [15-17]. The increase in testosterone observed in Topo et al. [12] was likely due to the fact that testosterone levels were low enough for d-aspartic acid to have an effect. In comparison our results in the D3 group mirror the results seen in the study by Willoughby & Leutholtz [13], where the total testosterone levels fall within levels observed in resistance trained males [4,14].
The reductions in testosterone observed in this study are important to consider, owing to the negative impact it could have on training gains within this population. Resistance trained men have higher levels of strength and hypertrophy compared to novice trainers and also exhibit higher basal testosterone levels [4,13-17], which suggest a link between basal total testosterone levels and training related gains. A decrease in total testosterone with a concurrent decrease in free testosterone could reduce the likelihood of interaction with androgen receptors in muscles and nerves, which would reduce the speed of testosterone initiated muscle protein synthesis [1]. Over time this could translate into reduced training gains. Conversely, alterations of testosterone within normal physiological ranges may not be clinically significant. Research indicates that when total testosterone levels are observed outside of normal healthy ranges (4.9-8.6 ng.ml−1) it affects strength and hypertrophy. In the case of hypogonadism where testosterone levels are low this negatively affects strength and hypertrophy, and with the use of steroids a positive affect is seen [5,20]. The changes observed in the current study reflect minor alterations with respect to normal physiological ranges. It is currently unknown if these fluctuations are detrimental to training gains.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24074738The gonadal hormones were unaffected by 28 days of D-ASP supplementation and not associated with the observed increases in muscle strength and mass. Therefore, at the dose provided, D-ASP supplementation is ineffective in up-regulating the activity of the hypothalamo-pituitary-gonadal axis and has no anabolic or ergogenic effects in skeletal muscle.
which was what I was saying earlier regarding natty test boosters and supraphysiological levels of testosterone.alterations of testosterone within normal physiological ranges may not be clinically significant. Research indicates that when total testosterone levels are observed outside of normal healthy ranges (4.9-8.6 ng.ml−1) it affects strength and hypertrophy.
A link for the lazy https://bpsnutrition.net/products/sustain-alphaSustain Alpha.
I'm a big fan of Sustain Alpha too but if you're not into a transdermal you can try EndosurgeTurbo...also my rep code lifter15 will get you 15% off either product.A link for the lazy https://bpsnutrition.net/products/sustain-alpha
Splill the beansI think people will be VERY happy with CompEdgeLabs' M-Test...has several great ingredients at full dosages.
X2 wtf!Splill the beans
The anticipation....I think people will be VERY happy with CompEdgeLabs' M-Test...has several great ingredients at full dosages.
Definitely excited for this oneI think people will be VERY happy with CompEdgeLabs' M-Test...has several great ingredients at full dosages.
whaaaaat. when is this coming out?!I think people will be VERY happy with CompEdgeLabs' M-Test...has several great ingredients at full dosages.
The reason the testosterone market is dead. High prices with failed promises of fake standardized nettle root, Fenugreek, and all the empty promises of Tribulus (although some extract are good for libido) and new to the list is boron.Interested in a natural test boost, stength and libido and sense of well being, mood elevation and good sleep
Any ideas?
True the only thing that worked for me is Tongkat Ali for me....The reason the testosterone market is dead. High prices with failed promises of fake standardized nettle root, Fenugreek, and all the empty promises of Tribulus (although some extract are good for libido) and new to the list is boron.
ETA?I think people will be VERY happy with CompEdgeLabs' M-Test...has several great ingredients at full dosages.
It would be just so wonderful if people who discuss their experiences with Test Boosters would give their age.
We all know their are people in their 20's and even teenagers using Test Boosters. Obviously, being 57 years old myself I need to hear about experience from older gentlemen that can really get benefit from the stuff.
Thanks for your understanding..
Interesting coming from someone in the supplement industry. I recall USP labs released a test booster not too long ago? There was quite a flurry initially but I hardly ever see any mentions of this and its interesting you haven't marketed it on this thread as most others have for their products?The reason the testosterone market is dead. High prices with failed promises of fake standardized nettle root, Fenugreek, and all the empty promises of Tribulus (although some extract are good for libido) and new to the list is boron.
Can't forget the forskolin! Good post btw. Alphamax XT is a great all in one test booster. Covers all of the areas that the OP stated he wanted to see from a test booster. 4-8 week run with alphamax will do you good. The plus of taking a supplement like alphamax is because it has so many benefits all in one supplement, it saves you money from buying 2 different test boosters to get the desired effects. Keep budget down or use that extra money to add in another product that would compliment it well. Something like ArA.Like others have mentioned, Alphamax XT has ingredients to help with everything you have mentioned. The ashwagandha is great for overall mood. I don't know why I waited so long to start supplementing with it. Eurycoma, 3,4-Divanil, L-Dopa all help me in the libido department. The L-DOPA and ZMA help promote deep sleep.
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There's a lot of other benefits of Alphamax XT as well, reduced cortisol, reduced estrogen, promoting of lean mass.
They can help you achieve your goals with proper diet and training.Are these test boosters really functional these days? I remember only hearing that test boosters are useless and have no real research behind them.
I have tried that HCGenerate stuff and outside of slight libido boost I didnt really feel anything.
Which boron form? Dose? Period of use? How much did you see increase?Interesting coming from someone in the supplement industry. I recall USP labs released a test booster not too long ago? There was quite a flurry initially but I hardly ever see any mentions of this and its interesting you haven't marketed it on this thread as most others have for their products?
BTW boron worked well for me and I have bloods for this unlike most recommendations in this thread!
Can't that be said about anything though? I mean I could say cold brew coffee can help you achieve goals with proper diet and training. Or that high fructose corn syrup can help me achieve goals with proper diet and training.They can help you achieve your goals with proper diet and training.
There are studies on certain ingredients. I had a lot of them on my old laptop from college that I no longer have.Can't that be said about anything though? I mean I could say cold brew coffee can help you achieve goals with proper diet and training. Or that high fructose corn syrup can help me achieve goals with proper diet and training.
I meant more about the research and if there are real medical studies and enough testing done on these ingredients that make them more than just something that might work. And more importantly, if they are functional in human studies, what are the dosages that they were functional and are those dosages in these products?
This. While a test booster isn't going to increase testosterone levels to supraphysiological levels (and therefore isn't going to provide "gear-like" results associated with that), an effective "test-booster" like AlphaMax XT has ingredients that have been shown to have benefits in regards to body composition and performance (Forskolin and Ashwagandha) and mood and libido (Ashwagandha and tongkat Ali). The real benefits from quality test boosters today (AlphaMax XT, Testify, etc) isn't so much increasing the test # on bloodwork for people who already have normal test levels, but in improving performance/body composition/mood, which can certainly help with any goal.They can help you achieve your goals with proper diet and training.
This is another reason why I love alphamax. It has so many proven ingredients that it can be used for any goal.This. While a test booster isn't going to increase testosterone levels to supraphysiological levels (and therefore isn't going to provide "gear-like" results associated with that), an effective "test-booster" like AlphaMax XT has ingredients that have been shown to have benefits in regards to body composition and performance (Forskolin and Ashwagandha) and mood and libido (Ashwagandha and tongkat Ali). The real benefits from quality test boosters today (AlphaMax XT, Testify, etc) isn't so much increasing the test # on bloodwork for people who already have normal test levels, but in improving performance/body composition/mood, which can certainly help with any goal.
the degree to which these products contribute to improvements in body composition and performance is negligible and far overstated compared to a solid diet, exercise and rest. It may also be time to start rebranding these products as it seems to be the consensus that they don't boost test directly to any significant level, if at all. We might as well start labelling good food as a test boosters given their 'indirect effect' is far more significant than for 'testboosters'This. While a test booster isn't going to increase testosterone levels to supraphysiological levels (and therefore isn't going to provide "gear-like" results associated with that), an effective "test-booster" like AlphaMax XT has ingredients that have been shown to have benefits in regards to body composition and performance (Forskolin and Ashwagandha) and mood and libido (Ashwagandha and tongkat Ali). The real benefits from quality test boosters today (AlphaMax XT, Testify, etc) isn't so much increasing the test # on bloodwork for people who already have normal test levels, but in improving performance/body composition/mood, which can certainly help with any goal.
USP Labs Ultimate T is a phenomenal product, and I hate most test boosters.Interesting coming from someone in the supplement industry. I recall USP labs released a test booster not too long ago? There was quite a flurry initially but I hardly ever see any mentions of this and its interesting you haven't marketed it on this thread as most others have for their products?
BTW boron worked well for me and I have bloods for this unlike most recommendations in this thread!
The degree to which ANY NATURAL PRODUCTS contribute to improvements in body composition and performance relative to a solid diet, exercise, and rest (which are obviously the three main factors in any fitness/body goal) is negligible... they're called supplements because they are intended to "supplement," or be added onto a solid diet, training program, and rest. No one is even trying to say that you can out-supplement bad diet or training.the degree to which these products contribute to improvements in body composition and performance is negligible and far overstated compared to a solid diet, exercise and rest. It may also be time to start rebranding these products as it seems to be the consensus that they don't boost test directly to any significant level, if at all. We might as well start labelling good food as a test boosters given their 'indirect effect' is far more significant than for 'testboosters'
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4658772/Compared to the placebo subjects, the group treated with ashwagandha had significantly greater increases in muscle strength on the bench-press exercise (Placebo: 26.4 kg, 95 % CI, 19.5, 33.3 vs. Ashwagandha: 46.0 kg, 95 % CI 36.6, 55.5; p = 0.001) and the leg-extension exercise (Placebo: 9.8 kg, 95 % CI, 7.2,12.3 vs. Ashwagandha: 14.5 kg, 95 % CI, 10.8,18.2; p = 0.04), and significantly greater muscle size increase at the arms (Placebo: 5.3 cm2, 95 % CI, 3.3,7.2 vs. Ashwagandha: 8.6 cm2, 95 % CI, 6.9,10.8; p = 0.01) and chest (Placebo: 1.4 cm, 95 % CI, 0.8, 2.0 vs. Ashwagandha: 3.3 cm, 95 % CI, 2.6, 4.1; p < 0.001). Compared to the placebo subjects, the subjects receiving ashwagandha also had significantly greater reduction of exercise-induced muscle damage as indicated by the stabilization of serum creatine kinase (Placebo: 1307.5 U/L, 95 % CI, 1202.8, 1412.1, vs. Ashwagandha: 1462.6 U/L, 95 % CI, 1366.2, 1559.1; p = 0.03), significantly greater increase in testosterone level (Placebo: 18.0 ng/dL, 95 % CI, -15.8, 51.8 vs. Ashwagandha: 96.2 ng/dL, 95 % CI, 54.7, 137.5; p = 0.004), and a significantly greater decrease in body fat percentage (Placebo: 1.5 %, 95 % CI, 0.4 %, 2.6 % vs. Ashwagandha: 3.5 %, 95 % CI, 2.0 %, 4.9 %; p = 0.03).
This study reports that ashwagandha supplementation is associated with significant increases in muscle mass and strength and suggests that ashwagandha supplementation may be useful in conjunction with a resistance training program.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16129715. The forskolin group had a significant decrease in body fat percent from baseline (35.17 8.03%) to final measurement (31.03 7.96%). The placebo
group showed no significant difference in body fat percent from baseline to final measurement. The actual change in body fat percent from before to after the study (4.14 4.47% vs. 0.96 1.66% for forskolin vs. placebo, respectively) was shown to be significantly different among groups (p 0.05).
boron citrate. 10mg per day for 5 weeks. 60% increase in Total T albeit from near bottom of the scale, took me to mid-range. in combination with vitamin D 5000 UI. The vitamin D by itself did nothing but with the Boron, boom! My GP nodded his head approvingly at that latest reading noting the marked changeWhich boron form? Dose? Period of use? How much did you see increase?
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