The Best Insulin Mimicker?

Just wait until you get a peek at our new Mimordica extract. It's golden.
 
dsade said:
Just wait until you get a peek at our new Mimordica extract. It's golden.
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I am happy to hear something from you on this but until I find something that is a powerful and effective and IGF-1 LR3, they are all just placebos in my eyes. That is far and away the most potent of anything I have tried to date.
 
Apples and Oranges.
 
It's going to be included in DCP 2.0, but I'm also working out the logistics to include it in SlinSane 2.0 without affecting the price too much.
 
dsade said:
Apples and Oranges.
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Fair enough, I thought we are talking about insulin mimetics but I guess this ingredient you are referring to is different. Pardon the confusion.
 
Thats awesome Dsade, cant wait to try it.
 
Charatin is a different constituent. This one Mormidica or whatever is a ppar a and delta agonist I believe from all research I've done on that herb
 
ssbackwards said:
Charatin is a different constituent. This one Mormidica or whatever is a ppar a and delta agonist I believe from all research I've done on that herb
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In English, what is this supposed to do and why is it so special?
 
Ever hear of that ace 1331 or whatever its called. Literally an exercise pill.

It enhances skeletal muscle insulin sensitivity and enhances fat loss. Short version
 
Study showing it works on ppard is

Activating effect of momordin, extract of bitter melon, on the promoter of human ppardelta
 
when i took the beta samples of Cool Down, i saw a decent pump. i would imagine Cool down + Lit Up + NeoVar would be a nice stack if you react well with Lit up and NeoVar.
 
Subbing to this for a later read. Seems to be a ton of
Info I'm here as well as various opinions.
 
AaronJP1 said:
Subbing to this for a later read. Seems to be a ton of
Info I'm here as well as various opinions.
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Aaron,

Very interesting info here and it's time I read this again myself. The problem with many insulin mimic products is they come and go after a few months and then you cannot find them anymore.

The guy talking about IGF-1 LR3 -- it's like taking HGH as it acts more like that than a glucose repartitioner, as IGF -1 is the active product of HGH. It has a lot of possible dangers that have to be considered before use. But, yeah it does all kinds of good things for healing, fast, fast recovery, and extra muscle growth. If you have an early stage cancer though, it would also help that grow, and really fast too.

Dsade did not want to argue with him as technically IGF-1 LR3 does have nutrient repartitioning functions too, but really it's other abilities and issues are more to the point -- "apples and oranges," was true.
 
tuberman said:
Aaron,

Very interesting info here and it's time I read this again myself. The problem with many insulin mimic products is they come and go after a few months and then you cannot find them anymore.

The guy talking about IGF-1 R3 -- it's like taking HGH as it acts more like that than a glucose repartitioner, as IGF -1 is the active product of HGH. It has a lot of possible dangers that have to be considered before use. But, yeah it does all kinds of good things for healing, fast, fast recovery, and extra muscle growth. If you have an early stage cancer though, it would also help that grow, and really fast too.
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That's scary... :(
Yeah man I've used glycobol not bad just want to see what else is out there.
Used slin sane it's ok for what it is.
Next up I'm debating on try is recompadrol.
 
Holy effing bump!


Recompadrol son, recompadrol!

Or the good 'ole Oustanding formula....recompadrol+n2slin!
 
What about Cinnamon extract?

I am confused between insulin mimickers and GDA's? I will go more goal specific, I am looking to lean up drop bodyfat, yes I will have carbs in my diet but they will be minimal (breakfast and lunch only) what would work best? I like taking Na+Rala for its antioxidant effect, what else?

Na-Rala + ???
 
Gdas are things that dispose glucose. This is by alpha amylase inhibition in the small intestine

An insulin mimicked works on the pi3k pathway to increase glut4 translocation
 
whn u say tehy dispose glucose....does ur body still absorb it as calories or no? also.....i had been using slin sane for a while and now am on glycobol, after the glycobol shoudl i take time off or is this something u can stay on liek if i went to a different product?
 
mkretz said:
whn u say tehy dispose glucose....does ur body still absorb it as calories or no? also.....i had been using slin sane for a while and now am on glycobol, after the glycobol shoudl i take time off or is this something u can stay on liek if i went to a different product?
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The carbs aren't digested from small intestine when you inhibit alpha amylase

Bmov and organic vanadium salts I would cycle off every 6-8 weeks. Vanadium and vanadyl sulfate work just as good and are excreted much more readily and aren't absorbed into vanadium sensitive tissue like the organic salts. So I would say vs supplements like SLIN or recon pardon you can use indefinitely at directed doses
 
ssbackwards said:
The carbs aren't digested from small intestine when you inhibit alpha amylase

Bmov and organic vanadium salts I would cycle off every 6-8 weeks. Vanadium and vanadyl sulfate work just as good and are excreted much more readily and aren't absorbed into vanadium sensitive tissue like the organic salts. So I would say vs supplements like SLIN or recon pardon you can use indefinitely at directed doses
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sry to be a noob but, what ur saying is that carbs arent digested with gdas so that woudl mean tehy woudlnt count as calories?

also which partitioners woudl u cycle off and which woudl be ok to stay on? sorry again and thasnk for all the info!
 
The carbs aren't absorbed. But I would still count the calories. Its not 100 percent inhibition so to just not count them wouldn't be wiseThe only products I'd cycle off of are anything with BMOV or BPOVOtherwise I'd say your good to go.
 
ssbackwards said:
The carbs aren't absorbed. But I would still count the calories. Its not 100 percent inhibition so to just not count them wouldn't be wiseThe only products I'd cycle off of are anything with BMOV or BPOVOtherwise I'd say your good to go.
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Ok question then...
Why complex carbs? U still would get the energy if they are not absorbed? The body is burning em off?

What about using simple carbs?
 
AaronJP1 said:
Ok question then...
Why complex carbs? U still would get the energy if they are not absorbed? The body is burning em off?

What about using simple carbs?
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Simple carbs are digested right in the stomach and almost immediately, whereas most of the complex carbs are absorbed later in the small intestine. The blockers won't work well with stuff close to pure sugar. That's what I've heard anyway. A percentage of the complex carbs in a meal can be absorbed early too, so you do need to count them.
 
tuberman said:
Simple carbs are digested right in the stomach and almost immediately, whereas most of the complex carbs are absorbed later in the small intestine. The blockers won't work well with stuff close to pure sugar. That's what I've heard anyway. A percentage of the complex carbs in a meal can be absorbed early too, so you do need to count them.
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I see so a GDA with white potatos, slice of cake.., that type of stuff would not worth using a GDA then correct?
 
Things like dextrose aren't blocked by a-amylaseHowever there's other actions in the GDA that increase peripheral uptake because they serve multiple functions. When you use them they still cut insulin peaks as well as decreasing leptin. This is essential to help prevent leptin and insulin resistanceSo while its not blocking simple sugars, And I'm not sure on disaccharides. It will still aid in keeping fat off you body
 
Don't forget the repress genes responsible for adipogenesis and reduce triacylglycerol levels and fat droplet levels in adipose tissue
 
Understood
 
hmmm...so which products are which? which are GDAs? which contain thoseingreients u shoudl cycle off of?
 
Gda and insulin mimicked are interchangeable. However a pure mimetic would be vanadyl sulphate, corosolic acid to name just two

Gda is hca ,nhibiscus, white kidney bean,African mango.

Things that do both are salacious, berberine,
 
Any truth to berberine blunting protein/muscle synthesis?

I have noticed on anabolic pump it is hardcore me to gain muscle..

On n2slin I can gain muscle easier but hold more water versus anabolic pump I can cut and shred very easily. Glycobol bloated me and gave me cramps on two separate occasions. White kidney bean is great for blocking carb absorption.. Specifically "cheaters " by bsn
 
chedapalooza said:
Any truth to berberine blunting protein/muscle synthesis?

I have noticed on anabolic pump it is hardcore me to gain muscle..

On n2slin I can gain muscle easier but hold more water versus anabolic pump I can cut and shred very easily. Glycobol bloated me and gave me cramps on two separate occasions. White kidney bean is great for blocking carb absorption.. Specifically "cheaters " by bsn
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Cheaters is gone...
I just know I've been slacking in food and I'm shrinking.
I've being trying recompadrol :)
 
Anything that increases ampk. Will inhibit protein synthesis, more specifically blunt mTOR. Ala and berberine do that. A huge detrimental effect definetly not at all. High protein diet reverses that along with adding BCAA or just leucineBut ampk increases total body expenditure, as would any aerobic exercise. I would not worry. Especially since you still blunt gluconeogenesis to a degree.
 
chedapalooza said:
Cheater isn't gone.. I get it at plenty of different stores
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Shot me a PM? thx
 
ssbackwards said:
Anything that increases ampk. Will inhibit protein synthesis, more specifically blunt mTOR. Ala and berberine do that. A huge detrimental effect definetly not at all. High protein diet reverses that along with adding BCAA or just leucineBut ampk increases total body expenditure, as would any aerobic exercise. I would not worry. Especially since you still blunt gluconeogenesis to a degree.
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Clear your PMs
 
ssbackwards said:
Anything that increases ampk. Will inhibit protein synthesis, more specifically blunt mTOR. Ala and berberine do that. A huge detrimental effect definetly not at all. High protein diet reverses that along with adding BCAA or just leucineBut ampk increases total body expenditure, as would any aerobic exercise. I would not worry. Especially since you still blunt gluconeogenesis to a degree.
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Ok. I use recover pro n diet is 75 protein 15 fat 10 carb (%) roughly.

Was on AP for 7-8 months straight. Been on n2s for a month but running out, switching to slin sane first time user. Will be getting forskolin from a supp and use acetyl l carn so SS should go nicely
 
wow...sooo many choices and ways of going about it!!!..........any recomendations for a bulk?,, im liking glycobol right now
 
Actually just started recompadrol.
Can't w8 to see what it brings.
Glycobol was great for being vascular and full though.
 
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