Schwellingtons PCT

schwellington said:
okay sooooo avoid the yohimbine, drop ephedra to 25/caffine 200 2x a day?

i will take the rx bp meds i got, they kept it low even on trenbolone.


they do help so i will do this just as a precaution.

work was intenste, tired, but still gunna go lift. I have the energy too so im going too, so far mood is already improving- not so BLAH anymore, energy levels good, strength good, mass good so far so good
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Well you can take it 3x/day. Usually the protocol is start at 12.5 E, 200 C every 4-6 hours. SO like 8am, 1pm, 5pm. Then work your way up to 25 E, 200 C 3x day.

Or you can just do 2x day as well. :firedevil:
 
YUH!

UPDATE

BACKDAY!

deadlift superseted with dumbell military press
135x10/35x10
225x10/35x10
405x5/80x8
405x5/80x8
425x3/80x8
minimal rest bewteen sets

behind head lat pulldowns supersetted with horizontal dumbell raise- yuh
180x8/20x10
180x8/25x8
180x8/25x8
same about 20 seconds rest in between sets
yuh
cable lat rows supersetted wtih rear delt dumbell face pulls yuh
60x10/30x8
60x10/25x8
60x10/25x8


minimal rest between sets- my strength is still quite high at the end of day 3 pct.

im going to stop the eca for a while. I think my adrenal glands could use it lol will only be doing ostarine/preworkout drink for about 6 wks


tomorrow is legs/cardio
 
oooo thats allot pain on the dead lifts

you going raw or strapping up schwell?
 
using straps, my grip wont hold that lol. but my back can pull it :)


weighed in at 226 this morning! Abs are not AS visable, but still seeable! I will take 2-3 lbs of fat if i can hold onto 15 out of 20lbs lbm i gained on this cycle. That way after pct the cut will be much better, and the cut will be moderated- i will pull out 10g fat here, 10 g carbs there. Slow taper, but cardio will always be there, and weight sessions intense.


i just have a super duper slow metabolism- but i can beat it- just need to be smart about it:)


today is legs with LIGHT squats since i dead heavy deads yesterday, but i will punish my legs in other departments :) cardio for 30 minutes
 
schwellington said:
using straps, my grip wont hold that lol. but my back can pull it
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Use chalk, your grip is important too, you've gotta take into consideration that straps can add up to 40+ lbs of extra weight.

I do rack pulls with no straps @ 700lbs and pull 575 with just chalk.

Someone your size with gorilla arms should take advantage of them.

SO CHALK UP BRO. I promise your grip will hold that weight no problem
 
schwellington said:
nah i cut it short- it was deminishing returns at this point i was just hurting myself, so i decided to pct, and hop back on in about 5-6 months
im in pct!
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5-6 months? its gonna be hard

i know i cant help myself planning my next cycle even during pct!
 
probably 3-4 months actually
im getting bloods done 4 weeks after pct,

then another 4 weeks after that

if free test is good
lh good, fsh good,

and lipids are good then i will go back on, if ONE of these is still out of wack, im going to straighten it out, THEN go back on.


its looking like August will be the next run, but bloods will determine it
 
UPDATE

leg dayyyy
leg ext super setted with cable curls
leg ext-270x10/50x10
270x10/40x10
285x10/40x10
20 seconds rest between the super sets

horizontal leg press supersetted with tricpe pull downs(bar)
255x8/70x10
255x8/70x10
255x8/70x10
same minimal rest- only enough to make sure I wouldnt pass out yuh

hamstrannnng curls supersetted with isolation curls
135x10/15x10
150x10(uh pr?)/20x10
165x8(pr)/20x10

same with rest periods (at this point i looked as if I had been doing cardio for 30 minutes as i was drenched YUH!)

Finish out quads with- ATG squats(light as heavy deads where yesterday)
225x10(ATG)
275x8(ATG!)
superseted these with bicep curls to failure 30lbsx20,x15x12


then went to do calves(high rep day)
75x30
55x30x30



then went to TREADMILL for 25 minutes cardio at 5mph incline at 1.0
burnt 205 calories


i swear my shirt was SOAKING wet, it was epic. Ostarine is making me sweat like im on tren, without sides!


calories-3100 today

net- around 2400-2500
 
I just had something scary as **** happen to me.


All of a sudden, i got short of breath, like bad, i got weak and tired, and nauseated- all of these things happend INSTANTLY it was no building up to it it just happend, and i started shaking uncontrollably.

i was like "im going to die" that was a ****ing scary thought, so for w/e reason my gut told me to eat- and man, eat I did, i smashed on 4 pieces ezikiel bread(60g carbs)

like 4 servings almond butter, and some protein pancakes


the symptoms have subsided, what that was about- i have no ****ing idea, but i think if i wouldnt have eaten, i would have had to call 911-
so my caloreis probably went up to about 4200 total today BUT they have ALL been clean, and i was VERY active today

net- around 3400 lol- one day aint guna hurt, hell it's pct i need to be eating big- but not this big- i just did it today cause my body like short circuted
 
schwellington said:
I just had something scary as **** happen to me.


All of a sudden, i got short of breath, like bad, i got weak and tired, and nauseated- all of these things happend INSTANTLY it was no building up to it it just happend, and i started shaking uncontrollably.

i was like "im going to die" that was a ****ing scary thought, so for w/e reason my gut told me to eat- and man, eat I did, i smashed on 4 pieces ezikiel bread(60g carbs)

like 4 servings almond butter, and some protein pancakes


the symptoms have subsided, what that was about- i have no ****ing idea, but i think if i wouldnt have eaten, i would have had to call 911-
so my caloreis probably went up to about 4200 total today BUT they have ALL been clean, and i was VERY active today

net- around 3400 lol- one day aint guna hurt, hell it's pct i need to be eating big- but not this big- i just did it today cause my body like short circuted
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Wow that doesnt sound good man. I hope everything is ok. Maybe your bp dropped for a second. Hopefully after a good nights rest you'll be ok.
 
it was weird, almost hypoglycemic like symptoms- which doesnt make sense, w/e i just ate like 800cals and now im just exhuasted like more so than normal- i think with all the stress from finals, my body transitioning, and these intense ass workouts- my body just flipped lol ya tomorrow is cardio only then chest on sunday

calories back down to 3k-3.1k tomorrow
 
could have been a panick attack. eventhoug i am no expert on this by any means.
i just know that i got weak, dizzy and nauseated during injecting once and i think it was simply because i was becoming aware of what i am doing (fear of needles, can block it out however) and had a kind of panick attack.
 
wasnt a panic attack, I have anxiety, I know my symptoms when I have a panic attack, this was something totally different- when I have a panic attack I know whats happening, and I know to just get away by myself and breath deep- this- i thought i was going to keel over and die- i dunno lol.


anyways, calories are being dropped to 2800 on off days(cardio) and 3000 on weights/cardio days. IM 5 days deep in this pct and im getting STRONGER. Epicness, I have not lost any size, and im BREAKING OUT MORE THAN WHEN I WAS ON CYCLE!!! Testosterone is coming back for sure, good signs at least.



did 38 minutes long distance cardio today, and im going to be on my feet at work for probably i dunno 7-8 hours so im lookin at a good 6-7 hundered burnt today.


yuh
 
xFRACTION said:
Jesus christ man that sounds really scary. You might want to take it easy for a bit
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I'd really like to see schwell take a good 6 months off anything anabolic and just lift and diet.after the pct is over.just looking out for ya bro you know mama worries sometimes.
 
actually now that i think of it, maybe it would be wise to see a doctor. i dont know if its possible, but maybe it is something heart related. and if not, a doctor could make sure that its nothing serious.
 
I am taking time off anabolics for a good bit of time mich! :) I have had extensive blood panels done, im not in danger atm, BUT im going to continue to have blood drawn every 6 wks to make sure im recovering in that area. Also going to get checked out by a doc before my next cycle :)
 
Hey schwell, don't know if this fits into your PCT but may be a good idea. Throw in some MT2....it is responsible for increasing LH production, oxidizes fat, and gives you a nice tan. I'm sure if you low dosed 250mcg-500mcg you could see some benefit without all the added sides (aka moles freckles)
 
hormones prolly all ****ed up. if youve ever gotten a panic attack they're scary if theyre sevre. i got anxiety problems so stack this on top of it... its a real treat ; /

n

chalk up. more you progress the more your weak spots will come out.
 
schwellington said:
probably 3-4 months actually
im getting bloods done 4 weeks after pct,

then another 4 weeks after that

if free test is good
lh good, fsh good,

and lipids are good then i will go back on, if ONE of these is still out of wack, im going to straighten it out, THEN go back on.


its looking like August will be the next run, but bloods will determine it
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whats your plan?
 
schwellington said:
I am taking time off anabolics for a good bit of time mich! :) I have had extensive blood panels done, im not in danger atm, BUT im going to continue to have blood drawn every 6 wks to make sure im recovering in that area. Also going to get checked out by a doc before my next cycle :)
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That sounds like a good idea bro. We want to see you taking care of yourself and making sure everything is ok.

That attack sounded pretty bad bro. Do you have any history of low or high blood sugar issues or ever been checked for it. It almost sounded to me like a diabetic attack. Just wondering...
 
no issuses with diabites or glucose levels. only thing with me is family has bad cholesterol by genes other than that- no. I would have said it was something w/ blood sugar, but I had been eating carbs.

My only guess is at this point i pushed my body so hard it short circuted. But i dunno, i have been fine the last couple of days....it scared me....


I called my mother who is a nurse, but she lives back in Texas, she told me eat, lay down, and if it doesnt get better call 911. so i did and i was fine. BUt yuh scurry



PLAN OF ATTACK FOR NEXT CYCLE
it has been planned to a T but before i cycle, i will have blood tests confirming im OK, and get a general check up by a Doctor.

week 1-14- test p 500mg/wk
week 1-5NPP 400mg/wk
week 1-3 Anadrol 50- 100mg a day(or 75 not sure)
week 6-14 masteron prop 700mg/wk
week 8-14 anavar 100mg/wk

i may or may not use anavar i dont know yet. But the first 5 wks are a bulk and rest is cut down
 
Nice cycle plan. I think that's where a lot of guys go wrong....spend too long trying to burn fat and build muscle and eventually hit diminishing returns. toggling back and forth is great idea.....IE 20 wk cycle = 8 weeks of cutting, then 4 weeks of cutting, then back to 8 weeks of bulking
 
schwellington said:
I am taking time off anabolics for a good bit of time mich! :) I have had extensive blood panels done, im not in danger atm, BUT im going to continue to have blood drawn every 6 wks to make sure im recovering in that area. Also going to get checked out by a doc before my next cycle :)
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good to hear bro you know I worry about ya.thanks for the update.
 
UPDATE

chest
benchpress supersetted with dumbell press ( HEAVY BBELL/LIGHT DUMBELL DAY)
275x2/55x10
275x2/60x10
275x2/60x9

decline press supersetted with abs
75x9
65x10
65x10

dumbell flys supersetted with pushups then into abs
40x10/PUSH x5
40x9/push x5
40x9/push x5

I finished ab routine, was going to do cardio but figured since I was on my feet for 8 hours i didnt need it- i probably burned a good 400 calories just working.


caloric intake-3300 today
200g carbs
400g protein
100g fats


tomorrow im dropping calories to 3000

pct has been smooth so far strength is still high :) I have put on a couple lbs fat but thats OK i will keep all my muscle mass, and then when done with pct the muscle will help shred it down to around 205lbs which is where i wana be(bout 20-25lbs to loose)


so, dropping cals, and keeping activity high
 
You only had to work 8 hours on mothers day you lucky bastard? I did 11 n a half straight no break n would have stabbed somebody for some food. Best comment of the day: I set down a bowl of tortellini in front of a kid, mother says, o she doesn't like cheese on this... anyhow, we did 24,000 so not too bad
 
xFRACTION said:
You only had to work 8 hours on mothers day you lucky bastard? I did 11 n a half straight no break n would have stabbed somebody for some food. Best comment of the day: I set down a bowl of tortellini in front of a kid, mother says, o she doesn't like cheese on this... anyhow, we did 24,000 so not too bad
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lol I hate it when **** like that happens dude. :/


okay so i have GAINED 3 lbs in pct- wtf? diet has been clean and cardio high.....


so thoughts on diet so far.


body likes fats >carbs so im lowering carbs by 50 grams, and fats will remain at 115g protein staying high at 375


so that will give me about 2800 calories here.
 
today is back/cardio
focus on lats/middle back

will look like this kinda

circut 1
Barbell Rows superseted with military dumbell press (3 sets)
weighted pull ups supersetted with upright rows(3 sets)
close grip rows supersetted with lateral raises (3 sets)
dumbell rows supersetted with reardelt exercise


cardio will be for 300 calories flat.


yuh


oh, and tortellini in her face!
 
first of all- Fukc, skin cancer runs in my family, and I just had a mole pop up that wasn't there before- which is not good, it could easily be cancerous. Gotta go see the Dermatologist tomorrow. If you believe in God, say a prayer, if not- well do whatever lol


UPDATE!
Back day
bbell rows super setted with military dumbell press
205x8/80x10
205x8/80x10
205x8/75x10
only 20 seconds rest in between those sets
circit 2
lat pulldowns super setted with lateral raises
210x10/30x8
210x8/25x8
210x8/25x8
same- short rests between sets just enough to catch breath.
close grip row super set with upright row
165x8/105x8
165x8/105x8
165x8/105x6
same short rest between sets
behind neck pull down super setted with rear delt dumbell flys
165x8/20x8
165x8/25x6
165x8/20x8

cardio for 23 minutes
burnt 220 calories


yuh
 
Hope you're alright big guy. Fortunately if it is anything you noticed pretty quickly so they'll be able to excise it
 
yeah, I dont think it is, as it isn't really abnormal looking but since melenoma runs like crazy in my family im gettin it checked anyways.


yuh tomorrow is cardio only

calories today- 2900
carbs-160
protein-350
fats 95g
 
schwellington said:
yeah, I dont think it is, as it isn't really abnormal looking but since melenoma runs like crazy in my family im gettin it checked anyways.


yuh tomorrow is cardio only

calories today- 2900
carbs-160
protein-350
fats 95g
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scary **** man, I was reading this at work and im like o damn hope hes ok. Im following close schwell as im going into pct in 5 days.
 
yeah, I think im good, but i wanna be sure as it runs crazy in my family.


Anyways diet has been good, pct been smooth, im afraid the ostarine i have is actually a steroid. I mean- I know guys who have used the same supplier(NO I WILL NOT GIVE SOURCES) and recovered fine. So i guess im just paranoid.


I will be addind in erase for estrogen control in a week, i have gotten the estrogen bloat :( due to a spike in naturual test, the armoatase enzyme is converting some to estrogen, so erase will help do this and it's non steroidal and cheap/effective :)


finally im looking at some norephedrine, yohimbine and caffine(NYC STACK) to use once im done resting for another eh, 7-10 days to let the adrenal glands rest a bit, perhaps i will wait longer.

anyways im out
 
kain1012 said:
is recycle and erase the same thing?
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no recycle has more stuff in it, not to familiar with it, it is a natty test booster, it may have anti e properties im not certain- i never used natty t boosters, not that they are bad, just why should I when clomid is clinically proven to raise free test by 75% and a 100% increase in LH



if u want a pct outline this is what i think works well

clomid-50mgs/50mgs/25mgs/25mgs
erase introduced in 3rd week of pct
in fact im doing this for my cycle- which was 5 months long.

this is ur basic pct right here

just my spin on it
 
spins are always welcomed :)

I seen allot of posts on people saying clomid is better when dealing with tren. Then of course the other half say nolva is the best all around. And would creatine help in PCT? if so which one, there is so damn many now.

So I will run recycle starting end and then PES-erase at 3rd week, hope the 2 work will together.
 
you will be okay. as far as i know whats really to worry about are certain visual changes in the mole, if its new then worst case scneario as someone already mentioned is that it will have to be removed.
i like how you take these thins serious btw, once can always argue that schwell is crazy, but at least he pays attention to his body...
 
@ Kain- nolva is actually BAD BAD BAD in pct WHEN using a progestin like compound like tren- always use clomid


creatine is great in pct AND on cycle- use it


redman- ya i do listen/watch the body closely- now it's telling me to go back to sleep- but i just ate some oats, blueberrys and whey/milk gotta let it digest :/

weight this morning=228
 
depends on if the blueberries are in season, then they could be a dollar or little more.

@schwell what kind of creatine should I start on or does it matter?
 
creatine monohydrate is perfect


or if you are not on a budget Creatine Nitrate is supposed to be good
 
Prayers that the mole turns out to be nothing, schwell.
 
thanks bruddah!


Going to do cardio for 45-60 minutes today- will probably only do 45 which should burn around 450-500 calories :)

tomorrow is legs with scoot bjork- should be interesting- will be a heavy squat day- no cardio on this day
 
**** dude shin splints!
just got done with about 37 minutes cardio (35 jogging, 2 cool down)

was good and sweaty yuh, does anyone know wtf I can do to reduce shock impact on my knees/shins? Because Im loving the longer cardio sessions, but its tearing my knees up


and i must have knees- legs r my strong point

FUNKDOC WHERE U BEEN BISH
 
Yeah man elliptical works good if you're having knee probs.. Just push with your upper body, taking the stress away from the knees.

Running on the treadmill kills me too man.. I mostly use it for incline walking.
 
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