That's actually really interesting, because I would think if you had enough cholesterol to be getting forced through and cutting stuff up you'd be having heart attack or brain clots before it ever got to that point. Does it crystallize in certain places or something?
For **** sake man... shut your damn mouth. You OBVIOUSLY have no logical cell in your brain to argue with. WHAT THE **** DID I SAY ABOUT THESE COMPOUNDS? There are no studies on the **** you are ingesting, whereas real gear has a ton. Pull your head out of your ass and have a real conversation.
Dude, you joined a debate that has been swirling for years. I don't believe you have witnessed the underhandedness of this industry and are only gun hoe about what you can or cannot buy instead of thinking about the unknowing audience purchasing one thing, and taking an amphetamine.
Please keep on going, your misguided attitude is making my morning cup of coffee a riot.
Read up on hypertension and plaque formation. The increased blood pressure causes blood cells to constantly slam into the arterial wall with each heart beat and subsequently scar the walls giving LDL a foot hold for increased plaque formation and in time heart disease. Both LDL elevation and hypertension comes from AAS, more so these methyl's being pedaled today.
Damn fine way to put it in perspective Bio. Seems as though people do not want to admit that adverse effects can come from our holy line of supplements. Taking an advertisement of a company out to make money as gospel about a compound that has only been given to gerbils and monkeys.
These are the buyers correct?
No, I mean a compound pulled from vida that has no human studies.
These are the buyers correct? Get it?:wink1:
Ah, I see what you did there. :swordfight:
Then get your first post right man. You made it seem as though everyone who took a PH didn't have a proper diet or weight training regimen when that is not the case with those of us who take the time to research what we are doing and craft it down to fit our needs. These tool bags that you do speak of, however, really have ruined such things that should be at our disposal if we so CHOOSE to take them and TAKE THEM RESPONSIBLY!
I know usually when someone starts a sentence with "not that I don't believe you" they usually mean "I don't believe you" but I tend to speak my mind. I'm not arguing his point at all; I find it genuinely interesting.
From what I remember, Phera-plex (ie Madol) causes thickening of the heart wall. Not sure if it returns to normal post-cycle but I'm skeptical.
I've seen studies that say it does but there's a study to say everything so you could be right.
The one I'm thinking of is not with madrol, so I can't comment directly on that. It was a couple different injectables if I remember correctly. The mechanism of action should be similar though, should it not?
In the Anabolics 2007 book, it states that Methepitiostane is derived from DHT(Dihydrotestosterone).
Do you know if the thickening problem is present with compounds that do not convert to DHT?
Not sure what you are asking here? "forced through"?
You know what, this really happens often on these "text" only boards. People do not get the "gist" of the statements.
Lets not forget how my scripts the FDA passes every year and how many people actually die from those pharms, or have liver issues, kidney issues, heart issues, blood issues...... Have you heard the side of effects of some of these dr. scribed drugs?
Nice red herring. I wasn't advocating for the FDA here. Debate my thoughts instead of redirecting the light elsewhere.
They are not banning any new substances right now. Steroids are already illegal and they are working to get these already illegal substances off the shelves. The senate hearing reiterated the same thing - better enforcement of current laws rather than new legislation.
True I never seen a pro wrestler die of just steroids... Now the idea of mixing steroids, painkillers, and hard liquer does sound like one of the deadliest combos in the world. Lets not forget the likely hood of drug abuse along the lines of "recreational" drugs.
AH I see, my comments were because all the irrational hatred should be directed inward to the industry, instead of the FDA.
Which to a certain degree, I do as well.
Well, I think it is more about circumventing the DSHEA more than anything. You cannot say they havent been blanketly spitting in the face of the FDA. Sure you can find 1,4AD in some cow **** (Which is one reason it is still around, even from pre the first ban), but you cannot tell me you can find SD naturally.
Im talking about test.......true test......
Agree... You gotta love politicians and their personal vendettas. I am all or people putting whatever the hell they want in their own body's, the regulation should be in the fact that the labels tells you exactly what is in it.
The industry is mostly to blame. Nothing says consumer demand cannot be satisfied without compromising morals and ethics.
Just concerned thats all.
I believe that by "morals and ethics", he is just talking about you can invite the consumer to the game, as long as you play fair ball. You cannot tell me that you are throwing a curve, then spin a fast one by me.
"Gone, like yesterday is gone, like history is gone, just try and prove me wrong...Like yesterday is gone, like history is gone, the world keeps spinning on, like summer break is gone, like Saturday is gone. Gone, like Frank Sonatra, like Elvis and his mom, like Al Pacinos cash, my high school dreams are gone, my childhood sweets are gone."-Switchfoot
Our entire nation functions off an "Dont ask Dont tell" policy...
Spot on! Thanks!
Fail. This band is terrible. :slap:
They arent terrible. Just kinda emo. I prefer Skillet. Which is by no means terrible ^.^
Eh no skillet either. My little sister likes skillet tho. I'm not calling you a girl tho.
Just to make it a point, I listen to them because they are one of the few Christian bands that can produce decent music that still has some kick to it :swordfight:
