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PreMax - The most effective pre-workout performance drink!

I will be trying some Pre-Max starting next week, Non-sponsored. Not sure if i'm going to mix anything with it, but probably not, just to see how I feel on it. I will try it at half dose and full dose.
 
I like the hefty dose of Grape Seed. 400mg is the dose recommended for performance enhancement. I'm sure they referenced the study but I don't feel like looking. I have read it before though.
 
thebigt said:
they must be on obama's payroll.
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I dunno, inflation is down, energy cost is down. If you didn't have a variable rate mortgage and didn't lose your job, you aren't in any different shoes today than you were 3 years ago other than maybe your 401k being worth a bit less, and your house being worth a lot less, neither of which affects daily spending.
 
EasyEJL said:
I dunno, inflation is down, energy cost is down. If you didn't have a variable rate mortgage and didn't lose your job, you aren't in any different shoes today than you were 3 years ago other than maybe your 401k being worth a bit less, and your house being worth a lot less, neither of which affects daily spending.
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Luckily and thankfully this is where i am at.

I quit looking at my 401k a long time ago, made me sick to contribute and contribute and see loss quarter after quarter:(.

10% unemployment is no good,lets hope it gets better.
 
EasyEJL said:
I dunno, inflation is down, energy cost is down. If you didn't have a variable rate mortgage and didn't lose your job, you aren't in any different shoes today than you were 3 years ago other than maybe your 401k being worth a bit less, and your house being worth a lot less, neither of which affects daily spending.
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I dont know about where you live, but the price of food has sky rocketed around here, gas price is at $2.60. Inflation is stagnant. My electric bill went up 30% in the last 10 months.
 
DAdams91982 said:
I dont know about where you live, but the price of food has sky rocketed around here, gas price is at $2.60. Inflation is stagnant. My electric bill went up 30% in the last 10 months.
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I'm in Florida, so one of the worst hit areas at least as far as house prices, and food prices seem pretty stagnant to me, sure gas is 2.60 but it was higher thru most of 2006 (3 years ago). Not so sure on my electric bill, it may have gone up some.
 
EasyEJL said:
I'm in Florida, so one of the worst hit areas at least as far as house prices, and food prices seem pretty stagnant to me, sure gas is 2.60 but it was higher thru most of 2006 (3 years ago). Not so sure on my electric bill, it may have gone up some.
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My condo took a HIT hard... went from 105K and now it is valued at 85K.
 
Oh geez, the identical house to mine sold for $450k at its peak, and my last tax assesment was for $180k. But that doesn't really affect my day to day spending, having had child #3 sure did tho....
 
EasyEJL said:
Oh geez, the identical house to mine sold for $450k at its peak, and my last tax assesment was for $180k. But that doesn't really affect my day to day spending, having had child #3 sure did tho....
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better be putting that $5 a day towards a college fund!!! supplements are luxury items, it's hard to justify spending over a limited amount on them. it seems my set amount keeps creeping higher and i keep getting less and less supps, a perfect example of inflation. btw we are in 3rd year of a union negotiated contract, and believe me brother 3.5% yearly increase aint keeping up- union said be happy we saved your jobs- that don't seem like an ideal economic situation to me.:cheers:
 
thebigt said:
better be putting that $5 a day towards a college fund!!! supplements are luxury items, it's hard to justify spending over a limited amount on them. it seems my set amount keeps creeping higher and i keep getting less and less supps, a perfect example of inflation. btw we are in 3rd year of a union negotiated contract, and believe me brother 3.5% yearly increase aint keeping up- union said be happy we saved your jobs- that don't seem like an ideal economic situation to me.:cheers:
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What are you talking about T?.. I can see why he has no problem spending $50 every 10 days... he lives in what was once a $450K house... dude has to have some money!
 
DAdams91982 said:
What are you talking about T?.. I can see why he has no problem spending $50 every 10 days... he lives in what was once a $450K house... dude has to have some money!
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yeah, it's a biitch being an hourly wage earner. i guess i see things differently, my money gets watched CLOSELY!!!
 
bigmoe65 said:
You got off easy. My house was worth 800k and is worth 550k max now.
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Are you all going by your tax documents? I go by the average of sales of places with common square footage in my area. If you go by your tax statement every year, might as well be pissing in the wind.
 
DAdams91982 said:
Are you all going by your tax documents? I go by the average of sales of places with common square footage in my area. If you go by your tax statement every year, might as well be pissing in the wind.
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Those are the comps in my area, and I just had an appraisal done too.
 
I really like the profile on this just not the price :/ Don't see how it would be too much more benificial then accelerade.
 
Flaw said:
I really like the profile on this just not the price :/ Don't see how it would be too much more benificial then accelerade.
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Really??the only decent thing in those products is the whey protein isolate.36 grams of sugar per bottle and artificial food coloring..There is nothing in those products that helps improve nitric oxide retention..and the gel is even worse with high fructose corn syrup in it. Accelerade looks like it is your basic gatorade with protein in it..
 
So ive been thinking and im going to go on my rant.....

so we all know there are "me too" companies that have similar but slightly different products as the other me too's out there, which target the younger kids who like the "formulas" and "all in ones" and that is perfect, they are usually economical and taste good,

on the other hand you have companies that target the "experienced" or"hardcore" lifter. This is the case with Primordial Performance, tey are targeting the more experienced lifter that is part the "formulas" they know what works and they want it(think BCAA CREATINE) Now pre max is slightly expenive but for the experienced lifters that have taken all the **** that doesnt work and they want an effective product and are willing to pay for it.

I dont feel that PP targeted the 18yr old beginner lifter with Pre Max, i feel the targeted the bodybuilder who has a full time job and appreciates quality.

Just my $.02
 
Maybe too soon to ask or tell, but compared to supps like DR, RW, and Jacked, where do you guys think it might rank?
 
Jimbo15 said:
That doesn't contain GPLC or PeptoPro, so....
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vpower said:
Really??the only decent thing in those products is the whey protein isolate.36 grams of sugar per bottle and artificial food coloring..There is nothing in those products that helps improve nitric oxide retention..and the gel is even worse with high fructose corn syrup in it. Accelerade looks like it is your basic gatorade with protein in it..
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poison said:
Not even in the same league. :wtf1:
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Like a few people mentioned earlier, it doesn't matter how you pitch it.. the price is still steep. Your gonna need your sugars during workouts if your working out for extended periods of times. Nitric oxide products can be benificial but they also have tolerance issues. A BIG downside. Waxy maize is the only real product i've found to give you sustained pumps every time without tolerance. Gatorade has been used by athletes for years. Yes there's sponsorship behind it and yes research has shown there could be better intra workout supplements but what I was saying was "much more beneficial". You can argue the artificial flavoring and colors. I don't like that junk either. I'm not trying to down sale the product. Like I said. I like the profile. The only problem was the price. lol.
 
Flaw said:
Like a few people mentioned earlier, it doesn't matter how you pitch it.. the price is still steep. Your gonna need your sugars during workouts if your working out for extended periods of times. Nitric oxide products can be benificial but they also have tolerance issues. A BIG downside. Waxy maize is the only real product i've found to give you sustained pumps every time without tolerance. Gatorade has been used by athletes for years. Yes there's sponsorship behind it and yes research has shown there could be better intra workout supplements but what I was saying was "much more beneficial". You can argue the artificial flavoring and colors. I don't like that junk either. I'm not trying to down sale the product. Like I said. I like the profile. The only problem was the price. lol.
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As I have said before to each his own, personally I feel WMZ is the biggest wasted in the industry, and crushes my stomach. GPLC rocks, I eat carbs all day, so I do need any carb sources in my pwo, I would have prefer to see creatine mono/beta-alanine/peptopro/Grapeseed ectract/GPLC, and I would have looked it twice. Coming from personal experience, nothing out there compares to GPLC, however I would rather buy it in bulk and it with a cheaper stim based pwo to save money and to use post workout as well, hope I was able to relay some insight from an athlete's perspective.:cheers:
 
JN230 said:
So ive been thinking and im going to go on my rant.....

so we all know there are "me too" companies that have similar but slightly different products as the other me too's out there, which target the younger kids who like the "formulas" and "all in ones" and that is perfect, they are usually economical and taste good,

on the other hand you have companies that target the "experienced" or"hardcore" lifter. This is the case with Primordial Performance, tey are targeting the more experienced lifter that is part the "formulas" they know what works and they want it(think BCAA CREATINE) Now pre max is slightly expenive but for the experienced lifters that have taken all the **** that doesnt work and they want an effective product and are willing to pay for it.

I dont feel that PP targeted the 18yr old beginner lifter with Pre Max, i feel the targeted the bodybuilder who has a full time job and appreciates quality.

Just my $.02
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really no one has any comments on this one???:twak:
 
Checkout the multi-bottle discounts on PreMax - Invalid Link Removed


You will also get up to $7.50 in reward points for each bottle purchased that you can use on future orders... plus free shipping on all orders over $50... good way to save some $$$.

-Eric
 
This actually looks awesome IMO. The price was about what I had expected but I had hoped for a few more servings. Either way this is a no bs formula and I love the doses of everything. Great job and I will get around to purchasing some soon :thumbsup:
 
I broke down. Ill use it on leg days. Ill review it later on.

Anyways, Eric, just a suggestion, I dont know if your website allows it but could you also make Newsustain apply to 10 bucks off the Test Recovery stack? Or just discount the whole thing again ;)
 
What results can expected to be seen from this product? For $50 there better be some serious real world results.
 
"Since Ive been using PreMax before workouts, Ive been finding myself very hungry after my workout meal... like right after the meal.. this would be a good sign that protein synthesis is increased and muscle is being built.

-Eric"

what do you mean by workout meal? you mean post workout or meal pre workout after taking pre max?
 
"Since Ive been using PreMax before workouts, Ive been finding myself very hungry after my workout meal... like right after the meal.. this would be a good sign that protein synthesis is increased and muscle is being built.

-Eric"

This is probably the most unscientific assumption I have ever heard.
 
Beater said:
"Since Ive been using PreMax before workouts, Ive been finding myself very hungry after my workout meal... like right after the meal.. this would be a good sign that protein synthesis is increased and muscle is being built.

-Eric"

This is probably the most unscientific assumption I have ever heard.
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Thank you for that superior analytical scientific assessment, professor. Maybe your next conquest should be to reinvent scientific theory as a whole? :fing02::borladuck:
 
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