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tallbikerguy

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Hey fellas,

I went to the store today and almost got some SuperPump 250 from Gaspari Nutrition, and the guy was telling me how I should not get that because of the high levels of caffeine. He recommended some other caffeine-free products but I did not want to buy anything before consulting with my AM buddies first.

I basically want something to give me energy, strength, pump because I go to the gym after work (usually at 5:30 or 6 pm). I really don't know if I am caffeine sensitive or not, I have never drunk coffee simply cuz I don't like the taste so I have no idea the effect caffeine would have on me.

Feedback is appreciated, what do you guys recommend?
 
tallbikerguy said:
Hey fellas,

I went to the store today and almost got some SuperPump 250 from Gaspari Nutrition, and the guy was telling me how I should not get that because of the high levels of caffeine. He recommended some other caffeine-free products but I did not want to buy anything before consulting with my AM buddies first.

I basically want something to give me energy, strength, pump because I go to the gym after work (usually at 5:30 or 6 pm). I really don't know if I am caffeine sensitive or not, I have never drunk coffee simply cuz I don't like the taste so I have no idea the effect caffeine would have on me.

Feedback is appreciated, what do you guys recommend?
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Personally I would recommend RPM (it does contain a small amount of caffeine, but does nto act like a 'stimulant" re effects), as it provides smooth, focussed energy. Pumps can be painful on it sometimes. And since it's also a testosterone booster it can aid with strength gains. However, it is advised NOT to use RPM within 6 hours of going to bed, since effects last ~6-8 hours from dosing, so may not be right for you if you go to bed before 11.30pm-12am.

Otherwise, using creatine pre-gym will do all of those things as well (depending on which creatine product you use). NeoVar Recomped is an option.
 
Check out MANIAC!

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each scoop is only around 100 mg of caffeine, so you can get 80 workouts...or if you need more you still get 40 workouts for around 33 bucks :)
 
I wouldn't be afraid of the caffeine in it unless you already consume alot of caffeine. Personally I dont like superpump though.

I have tried it, as well as Ragnarok, R4W, RPM, Stim X, and even

Dont use Stim X if you workout that late, crap will keep you up till 4 am wooo!

I would say RPM and R4W are my favorites.

With me Ready 4 War being my top favorite. It just works better for me.


No one sup is king though, everyone has a supp that works better for them than a friend.

Really I find a Pre Workout is good when its combined with an everyday supplement your taking.
 
Not a fan of Superpump mydself, gave me horrible stomach issues. I have tried and liked White Flood, and am currently using Maniac and find it to be a very smooth focus and energy. Additionally, I have used RPM and also liked that, as well as JP8. However the last two it seemed their potency wore off on me fairly rapidly
 
OP I'm in the same boat as you. I lift at 6pm after work and am looking for a pre workout supp to take that doesn't keep me up till 1am.

I'm currently on Jack3d; and I like it, but it makes it hard to fall asleep with 2 scoops. I've been taking it for about a week now.
 
I think caffeine free Ragnarok is what your looking for. This preworkout supp worked the best for me and I have tried several in the past (Jack3d, Betanox, Plasmajet, NoShotgun, etc.). The watermelon tastes fantastic and gives you all the energy you need for those long, late afternoon workouts. Definitely worth a shot.
 
wolverines said:
I think caffeine free Ragnarok is what your looking for. This preworkout supp worked the best for me and I have tried several in the past (Jack3d, Betanox, Plasmajet, NoShotgun, etc.). The watermelon tastes fantastic and gives you all the energy you need for those long, late afternoon workouts. Definitely worth a shot.
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That is what I use...exact flavor and everything ;). I love it because I can use it for a later day workout or I can use it earlier in the day with a different stim type product to get the best of both worlds.

also im sort of a coffee junkie so the stim free lets me still drink coffee during the day :)
 
tallbikerguy said:
Hey fellas,

I went to the store today and almost got some SuperPump 250 from Gaspari Nutrition, and the guy was telling me how I should not get that because of the high levels of caffeine. He recommended some other caffeine-free products but I did not want to buy anything before consulting with my AM buddies first.

I basically want something to give me energy, strength, pump because I go to the gym after work (usually at 5:30 or 6 pm). I really don't know if I am caffeine sensitive or not, I have never drunk coffee simply cuz I don't like the taste so I have no idea the effect caffeine would have on me.

Feedback is appreciated, what do you guys recommend?
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Hey.
I have just become a huge fan of Jack3d.

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Works great.

JP.
 
I have tried a variety and find white flood to give some great energy as well as jack3d
 
Xpand
 
for me, 15g (3 scoops) of jack3d is like a legalized crack.. it does more than just giving me energy. It acts as some sort of nuclear fission reactor for my brain.

but if I take 3 scoops, i'll have a brilliant workout but I wont sleep the entire night
 
BoyFromAus said:
for me, 15g (3 scoops) of jack3d is like a legalized crack.. it does more than just giving me energy. It acts as some sort of nuclear fission reactor for my brain.

but if I take 3 scoops, i'll have a brilliant workout but I wont sleep the entire night
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Three scoops are quite intense. Do you work out in the evenings?
 
muscle pharm Assault islandmagicmic ( I love this stuff OMG )
USP MRjacked islandmagic ( WOW POW BAM)
universal Pump and shock therapy islandmagic ( Happy POWER)


some may work for you and some may not but you got to try it
 
Connman said:
OP I'm in the same boat as you. I lift at 6pm after work and am looking for a pre workout supp to take that doesn't keep me up till 1am.

I'm currently on Jack3d; and I like it, but it makes it hard to fall asleep with 2 scoops. I've been taking it for about a week now.
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lol, i just ordered Jack3d, didnt come in the mail yet an i work out at the same time, 6pm.
 
Got me some White Flood and love it! I also tried some packs a friend gave me of Animal Pump and it was really good too. He only gave me 6 he had left and I felt the difference since day 1
 
tallbikerguy said:
Hey fellas,

I went to the store today and almost got some SuperPump 250 from Gaspari Nutrition, and the guy was telling me how I should not get that because of the high levels of caffeine. He recommended some other caffeine-free products but I did not want to buy anything before consulting with my AM buddies first.

I basically want something to give me energy, strength, pump because I go to the gym after work (usually at 5:30 or 6 pm). I really don't know if I am caffeine sensitive or not, I have never drunk coffee simply cuz I don't like the taste so I have no idea the effect caffeine would have on me.

Feedback is appreciated, what do you guys recommend?
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I would reccomend Assault, Vasocharge, or APS Mesomorph
 
These Are my fav in order If you do not drink coffee try Assault I think you will like it if you don't I but the rest from you....

1. Assault
2.Animal Pump
3 Jack3d
4.Shack therapy
 
JP8 destroys everything imo.

Taste 1/10
Mixability 2/10
Application 40/10


lol.

Nox Pump
No explode
Jack3d (non stim) all get worthy mentions.
 
tallbikerguy said:
Hey fellas,

I went to the store today and almost got some SuperPump 250 from Gaspari Nutrition, and the guy was telling me how I should not get that because of the high levels of caffeine. He recommended some other caffeine-free products but I did not want to buy anything before consulting with my AM buddies first.

I basically want something to give me energy, strength, pump because I go to the gym after work (usually at 5:30 or 6 pm). I really don't know if I am caffeine sensitive or not, I have never drunk coffee simply cuz I don't like the taste so I have no idea the effect caffeine would have on me.

Feedback is appreciated, what do you guys recommend?
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Don't know what your needs are, but with Animal Pump, you can easily remove the caffeine/stims (red capsule). Something to consider...
 
Universal Rep said:
Don't know what your needs are, but with Animal Pump, you can easily remove the caffeine/stims (red capsule). Something to consider...
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That is true.:wave2:
 
Yup I have noticed that Animal Pump does take a little while to "kick in", whereas my newly found love "White Flood" kicks in real quick for me!
White Flood also gets me through the entire workout and even after I finish I feel I can go a little more. Animal Pump does wear out after a few exercises.
 
are you using white flood power of pill>?

Animal pumps effects dont wear off, the fact that it is a pill gives it a longer slower effect. Kind of like a dripping effect. Powder abosrbs much more quicker and gives you results quick.
 
I am taking the White Flood powder. And Animal Pump does wear off for me, as opposed to WF which keeps me good for the entire workout and then some
 
tallbikerguy said:
I am taking the White Flood powder. And Animal Pump does wear off for me, as opposed to WF which keeps me good for the entire workout and then some
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I am telling you the Animal Pump does not wear off. Pills and Powder are too completely different beasts. If you took pill White Flood you would even notice a huge difference from White Flood Powder. You should try it sometime. Powder will inevitably dissolve faster giving you quicker more immediate results where as pill form ( Animal Pump ) will give you a slow steady ( maybe not as evident ) feel.

:) Glad you like the White Flood tho. You taking it with anything?
 
No, just the While Flood. Right now I am taking another month off (to total 2) to then get started on Epistane (preferred so far). I initially thought some Cyclo Bolan but I don't want the liver toxicity...
 
Epistane is methylated too my friend. It will also cause some liver damage.
 
fightbackhxc said:
Animal pumps effects dont wear off, the fact that it is a pill gives it a longer slower effect. Kind of like a dripping effect. Powder abosrbs much more quicker and gives you results quick.
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Agreed. Also, in my experience, over the long haul, the Pump doesn't seem to diminish. With Shock Therapy (powder) for example, I get a big kick pretty quick--but it doesn't last as long as with Pump. I've run Pump in consecutive cans and it always delivers for me.
 
Universal Rep said:
Agreed. Also, in my experience, over the long haul, the Pump doesn't seem to diminish. With Shock Therapy (powder) for example, I get a big kick pretty quick--but it doesn't last as long as with Pump. I've run Pump in consecutive cans and it always delivers for me.
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I would say that if you dont have enought time to pop some pills 30 minutes pre workout then Shock Therapy or other powdered pre-workout mixes are good to take right before hand and/or sip during workout.
 
andrew732 said:
My votes go to Maniac and Jack3d.
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I recommended maniac as well.

Have I used it? No.

Do I want to. yes.

Its so much bang for your buck.
 
I know Epistane is methylated but according to a bunch of reviewers it causes much less liver toxicity. Also, its anti-estrogen quality makes it very appealing to me. White Flood in powder form is working great for me, and I am not knocking Animal Pump but it does wear off for me.
 
tallbikerguy said:
I know Epistane is methylated but according to a bunch of reviewers it causes much less liver toxicity. Also, its anti-estrogen quality makes it very appealing to me. White Flood in powder form is working great for me, and I am not knocking Animal Pump but it does wear off for me.
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Just wanted to make sure you knew. Make sure you do some research too. Get the proper PCT and stuff. I have heard of way to many people ( and actually know a few ) who have taken a PH or DS and have not done them propery. Needless to say it set them back and screwed them up.
 
Yeah I already have some Nolva in hand and will be adding a test booster as well. I will also supp with Cycle Support before, during and after the cycle.
 
SP 250 did nothing for me, and NO Shotgun gave me the jitters and some tingling sensation all over my body that wasn't pleasant.
 
bodyfort said:
what pill. That is indeed a nice idea
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Its the big red pill in the packs. My friend would remove his in M-stak so he could take a pre workout.
 
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