KLEEN's Quest for PRIME! A transformation contest log.

I may get 18" this year at low body fat, I was 17.5 a week out of contest last year and I do seem to be getting bigger. My massuse commented last night when she could barely get the towel around them to do my stretches..

Yah loose skin is the bane of my existence, without it I'd be a rock star...
 
I changed up the order of things a bit today and did cardio this morning. Jo has not been feeling well but wants to lift tomorrow so I swapped the days out and will be lifting on Thursday and Saturday this week which is actually normal but we were trying to change over to MON-Wed - Fri schedule.

Elliptical Trainer - Moderate Intensity Interval Training 40 minutes 493 calories, average heart rate 158, highest was 175, I put a hurting on that machine. I will also be taking a walk at lunch weather permitting.

So, I wanted to see what my beginning pics looked like compared directly to my last ones. Here they are together.

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Holy Crap I have made one hell of a transformation so far.
 
Nice! Great transformation. I'm working on mine as well. i hope this time around I can get it right and get half your results.
 
Nice! Great transformation. I'm working on mine as well. i hope this time around I can get it right and get half your results.

Thanks, you should log your transformation. Makes it easier to stick to your guns. If you get your nutrition right you will be most of the way there.
 
Yes you have! It's motivating :thumbsup:

~Rosie~

Thanks Rosie! I am having fun and with this next 12 days I think we will see a good bit of progress. If I can squeeze out 1-1.5 lbs more fat I should be noticeably leaner. Add to that some water manipulation and who knows what I may look like on the 25th.
 
Thanks, you should log your transformation. Makes it easier to stick to your guns. If you get your nutrition right you will be most of the way there.

TO be more clear, I tried IF for two weeks. Funny thing is it did get easier as I went on. Some days I was able to hold the fast longer than others throughout the 16-20 hr period. I would definitely get meal 1 in before 5pm to hit the gym, sometimes meal 2 by then. I made gains in strength and felt great. the problem was I couldn't tell if I was losing any BF. I'm a powerbuilder, hybrid if you will and compete in powerlifting. To date a mesomorph, used to be ecto growing up and through college. Insted of freshmen 20 I added up to 80+lbs. Now I'm more stout, look like a Defensive end (Football)instead of a forward (basketball). Took yrs to carve out most of the BF. I'm loving my size, just ned to peel off the rest. This has been a forever cut.
I know you didn't need all that info. I admire what you have done and how you did it. That's my exact goals. I'm on Bodyspace as PAtoVA, to give you an idea of what I look like. I love the strength I have. I looked at your bodyspace and basicly want to end where your at. So, maybe I need to give LG a longer run. Maybe LG was working and I didn't see it. I don't know. Again appreicate your time and didn't mean to hijack your log.
 
Thanks Rosie! I am having fun and with this next 12 days I think we will see a good bit of progress. If I can squeeze out 1-1.5 lbs more fat I should be noticeably leaner. Add to that some water manipulation and who knows what I may look like on the 25th.

Definitely. Walt once said to me losing one pound can make a world of difference - if it's lost from the right place. And he's right. Lose 1-1.5 pounds more of BODYFAT AND lose water too, and you'll look like you've transformed again, Chris!

~Rosie~
 
TO be more clear, I tried IF for two weeks. Funny thing is it did get easier as I went on. Some days I was able to hold the fast longer than others throughout the 16-20 hr period. I would definitely get meal 1 in before 5pm to hit the gym, sometimes meal 2 by then. I made gains in strength and felt great. the problem was I couldn't tell if I was losing any BF. I'm a powerbuilder, hybrid if you will and compete in powerlifting. To date a mesomorph, used to be ecto growing up and through college. Insted of freshmen 20 I added up to 80+lbs. Now I'm more stout, look like a Defensive end (Football)instead of a forward (basketball). Took yrs to carve out most of the BF. I'm loving my size, just ned to peel off the rest. This has been a forever cut.
I know you didn't need all that info. I admire what you have done and how you did it. That's my exact goals. I'm on Bodyspace as PAtoVA, to give you an idea of what I look like. I love the strength I have. I looked at your bodyspace and basicly want to end where your at. So, maybe I need to give LG a longer run. Maybe LG was working and I didn't see it. I don't know. Again appreicate your time and didn't mean to hijack your log.
Sounds like you were doing well. Depending on where your bodyfat was sometimes a recomp diet is slower to show the fat loss but if muscle is being built at the same time then you are getting a better composition over all. I will go check your profile out over there. I never get on there anymore.

Definitely. Walt once said to me losing one pound can make a world of difference - if it's lost from the right place. And he's right. Lose 1-1.5 pounds more of BODYFAT AND lose water too, and you'll look like you've transformed again, Chris!

~Rosie~
Yep that is what I am planning on, 2 weeks of doing a little extra cardio and keeping cals lower should knock anything out that is lingering. Carbs will basically be below 50 grams for 3-4 days then 300 refeed and repeat. Should strip fat off me pretty good.
 
Woo WOO WOO~~~~~~~ My word son you are freaking freaky!!! Awesome result brother your killing it!!
 
Thanks Packers!

Wow so I weighed myself this morning and I am down 7 lbs since those pictures were taken. Granted I was relatively full of glycogen then and right now I am depleted as all get out. I went from 211 on Saturday down to 203 this morning. Today is my scheduled 300 grams of carbs day so I should fill up again nicely, rather than work food around my pics I will do my pics around my scheduled carb day. I am thinking hitting 300 grams of carbs today, I should be looking pretty sharp on Saturday. Sunday will be the next carb up I think so pics will either be from Sat or Sunday this week. I fully expect to look mad sick in the next two weeks with how I have this set up. I have definitely lost more fat. My abs look pretty damn awesome this morning.

Workout - Dumbell Giant Set Circuit - no rest between exercises, 20 reps per exercise, 3 rotations

Dead lifts 47.5x20
Flat Bench 47.5x20
Bent Over Rows (elbows out) 47.5x20
Romanian Dead lifts 47.5x20
Shrugs 47.5x20
Arnold Press 25x20
Squat Lunges 25x20
Drag Curls (elbows back) 25x20

Repeated rotation 2 more times.

Finished in less than 30 minutes, was very hard, I felt a little weak when I started, the low carbs for 4 days finally got to me. However, I was able to push through it and after I was into it I just did the damn thing. I ended up taking a few 10-15 second breaks 2 of them were in between the Bent Over Rows and Romanians. That is just a ton of stuff taxing the lower back, and it was getting tight. I had to shake it out for a second. Gasp a few more times and get back to it. Even with my Versa-Grips holding on to the 47.5 lbs dumbbells for up to 5 minutes at a time gets my grip and my forearms blasted.
 
Thanks Packers!

Wow so I weighed myself this morning and I am down 7 lbs since those pictures were taken. Granted I was relatively full of glycogen then and right now I am depleted as all get out. I went from 211 on Saturday down to 203 this morning. Today is my scheduled 300 grams of carbs day so I should fill up again nicely, rather than work food around my pics I will do my pics around my scheduled carb day. I am thinking hitting 300 grams of carbs today, I should be looking pretty sharp on Saturday. Sunday will be the next carb up I think so pics will either be from Sat or Sunday this week. I fully expect to look mad sick in the next two weeks with how I have this set up. I have definitely lost more fat. My abs look pretty damn awesome this morning.

Workout - Dumbell Giant Set Circuit - no rest between exercises, 20 reps per exercise, 3 rotations

Dead lifts 47.5x20
Flat Bench 47.5x20
Bent Over Rows (elbows out) 47.5x20
Romanian Dead lifts 47.5x20
Shrugs 47.5x20
Arnold Press 25x20
Squat Lunges 25x20
Drag Curls (elbows back) 25x20

Repeated rotation 2 more times.

Finished in less than 30 minutes, was very hard, I felt a little weak when I started, the low carbs for 4 days finally got to me. However, I was able to push through it and after I was into it I just did the damn thing. I ended up taking a few 10-15 second breaks 2 of them were in between the Bent Over Rows and Romanians. That is just a ton of stuff taxing the lower back, and it was getting tight. I had to shake it out for a second. Gasp a few more times and get back to it. Even with my Versa-Grips holding on to the 47.5 lbs dumbbells for up to 5 minutes at a time gets my grip and my forearms blasted.

Sounds like whining to me... :)

Seriously though I am on the edge all the time just get by whenI do cardio after training and just barely recover to get back at it the next day...

As far as your weight shift is concerned, I am surprised you're suprised :) .. you may not be aware of this but you're carying and abnormal amount of extra mass, like I said the next level in size. That is going to have your fluctuating a hek of a lot with how much you eat in carbs. I know you know this but I am not really sure you have a full understanding how big you have gotten. I know we sometimes don't see it in ourselves the way others do.
 
JESUS CHRIST BRO!!! Your legs have ****ing exploded! That quad sweep is def more pronounced! ****, your abs have gotten better also! That is an awesome transformation brother!!
 
Sounds like whining to me... :)

Seriously though I am on the edge all the time just get by whenI do cardio after training and just barely recover to get back at it the next day...

As far as your weight shift is concerned, I am surprised you're suprised :) .. you may not be aware of this but you're carying and abnormal amount of extra mass, like I said the next level in size. That is going to have your fluctuating a hek of a lot with how much you eat in carbs. I know you know this but I am not really sure you have a full understanding how big you have gotten. I know we sometimes don't see it in ourselves the way others do.

Well since I am stocked up on whine do you have any cheese?

The weight shift was expected, however it was more of a weight shift than I expected in 3 days of low carbing it. I was full in my last pics may have even been holding a tiny bit of water but I didn't realize I had enough to water volume to drop 8 lbs in 3 days. I am used to dropping say 8 lbs in a week and that is only after a major carb up. I did not have a major carb up this time so it was surprising. You are right though, I know I gained a lot of mass and the fact that I am leaner too means I have gained more muscle than I realize. I definitely don't "know how big I am". I don't see it that much. I know right now I am big as hell for me but in my mind I am still not "that big." Of course i think most of us suffer from some degree of body dysmorphia, or as I call it Bigorexia...

JESUS CHRIST BRO!!! Your legs have ****ing exploded! That quad sweep is def more pronounced! ****, your abs have gotten better also! That is an awesome transformation brother!!
Thanks Brother, if you think my abs are better in that pic then this next two weeks is gonna have you sh!tting. My abs are so much better today than they were in that pic it is silly. Once i get a little glycogen in me to fill the muscle out I should look pretty insane so ong as i don't get waterlogged.
 
Kleen, if you were to compete again are you aiming for light heavyweight I assume? I know you was quite a bit lighter the last time you competed and was a middleweight if i remember correctly. That shows just how much muscle you've added in the years since
 
Kleen, if you were to compete again are you aiming for light heavyweight I assume? I know you was quite a bit lighter the last time you competed and was a middleweight if i remember correctly. That shows just how much muscle you've added in the years since

Yah he won't make it down to 175 I don't think... hard to say where he'll end up weight wise but 175 seems too low for sure. If it was 185 I would say go for middle weight based on where he is right now. I am kind of feeling 185 to 190 for him.
 
Kleen, if you were to compete again are you aiming for light heavyweight I assume? I know you was quite a bit lighter the last time you competed and was a middleweight if i remember correctly. That shows just how much muscle you've added in the years since
I really don't know I think the Light Heavy Weight if in the Open class that is 176-198, although I am still ranked as a novice so I can do the novice class in Middle Weight which is 162-187.

Yah he won't make it down to 175 I don't think... hard to say where he'll end up weight wise but 175 seems too low for sure. If it was 185 I would say go for middle weight based on where he is right now. I am kind of feeling 185 to 190 for him.

I was right at 180 in my Avatar, I would assume 185-190 might be perfect. If I can break 190 I would probably make an effort to break 187 so I would be at the top of that class in weight. In the open class competition would be a little harder but my last contest was against the Advanced Guys from FAME who were all going for Pro. They moved me from the novice class to the advanced because of my conditioning. I held my own so I would like to think I could hold my own against the Open class but who knows. If I decided to do a show this year it would definitely be in the Novice class. Then I would do another one next year in the open class.
 
Wow so I weighed myself this morning and I am down 7 lbs since those pictures were taken. Granted I was relatively full of glycogen then and right now I am depleted as all get out. I went from 211 on Saturday down to 203 this morning. Today is my scheduled 300 grams of carbs day so I should fill up again nicely, rather than work food around my pics I will do my pics around my scheduled carb day. I am thinking hitting 300 grams of carbs today, I should be looking pretty sharp on Saturday. Sunday will be the next carb up I think so pics will either be from Sat or Sunday this week. I fully expect to look mad sick in the next two weeks with how I have this set up. I have definitely lost more fat. My abs look pretty damn awesome this morning.

PRETTY DAMN AWESOME :D

~Rosie~
 
PRETTY DAMN AWESOME :D

~Rosie~
Rosie, the change is pretty amazing to say the least.

Damn. You look great Kleen, awesome job.
Thanks Volc! I am just amazed how quickly the changes are coming at this point. I can walk this blind folded for 10 more days. I am in the zone right now.
 
Cool Story Time!

So, Cool story from last night. Well very cool to me anyway. As I mentioned yesterday that it was a carb up day. I kept carbs low all day long and then at about 6:30 I started taking in carbs working my way up to about 300 grams. Well I was about 2/3rds of the way through my carbohydrate mayhem and was getting crazy vascular by 7:30. I was looking at myself in the mirror just standing there and the cuts in my abs just looked sick! My wife rounded the corner into the kitchen and looked at me for a few seconds like she was studying me. Out of nowhere she says "You need to go take a picture right now. You need to take a picture of how you look right now!" She was obviously excited and impressed with how I looked. She does compliment me, and lets me know she likes the way I look, but this reaction was kind of out of character for her. It was like the change from depleted an hour earlier, to filling up and getting vascular was shocking to her.

Well I took pictures in the computer room where the lighting is typically pretty good for pics and I have to say that I was just looking awesome. The cuts on my abs especially at the top 4 where the skin is tighter was ridiculous. They looked like they were just bulging off of my abdomen and the valleys between them were both deep and etched into me. There were no shadow games, no questions about if that was a shadow or a deep cut between the abs. If the progress keeps coming at this pace, well I will just look crazy by the 25th.


Carb sources for this carb up were as such, 90 grams of carbs from Waximaize Starch 60 pre with some aminos, and 30 at the end with 100 grams of whey isolate and casien mix, 80-90 grams from whole wheat turkey spaghetti, and right about 110 from rice pudding with raisins made with skim milk.

I spoke with the wife and mentioned to her that she was right, now that I have gotten leaner I am considering another show. I really need to bring my arms up but if I do a show this year it will be in the Novice class and then next year I will do an open. That or I will just do the physique contest this year. You know the muscle model stuff. She was actually very supportive of the idea. I know the last one really put her through a lot of stress because it was my first and I didn't have any real help. My house was falling apart and the roof was damn near caving in we didn't have the budget to pay someone so I was on the roof working on it for hours every night the last 4 weeks of prep not getting my posing practice in, or having more time to plan my peak week approach much less do a practice run to see how my body would respond to my plan.

Today I am not doing any cardio or exercise of any kind. I will keep my calories nice and low, keep carbs low and see how I look Saturday morning. No reason for me to go do cardio and deplete myself farther when I can just chill and burn fat while leaving the glycogen in my muscle for a picture tomorrow if I get it right I will still be relatively full tomorrow and dryer than I am today. I was 203 yesterday morning, looking at myself today I would say I am closer to 207 and my face has no bloat so I don't think I retained much water, just filled up. We are getting a custom carrot cake from this amazing place for lunch today celebrating a birthday. I will take a piece or two home for Sunday, that is my next carb up. I will more than likely take some pics Sunday morning, Sunday during the carb up and then more than likely Monday morning and you guys will get the best of those to vote on for this week. This many pictures will also help me document how my body is responding to the carbs and at what point my body looks best, pre, during, or a day or so post carb up.

I can tell I am getting in that zone because in all honesty, I am taking pictures pretty much every single day now. I have a separate folder on my PC at home with pics for each day since Saturday. This isn't my goal but it is helping me and it is also teaching me how my body responds to what I am doing.
 
Kleen... Nice Bro, such a good feeling when you see it all coming together at the end, makes all that hard work and sacrifices worth it!
 
Man I missed this.. In now! Good **** man.. Very inspiring.
 
So, Cool story from last night. Well very cool to me anyway. As I mentioned yesterday that it was a carb up day. I kept carbs low all day long and then at about 6:30 I started taking in carbs working my way up to about 300 grams. Well I was about 2/3rds of the way through my carbohydrate mayhem and was getting crazy vascular by 7:30. I was looking at myself in the mirror just standing there and the cuts in my abs just looked sick! My wife rounded the corner into the kitchen and looked at me for a few seconds like she was studying me. Out of nowhere she says "You need to go take a picture right now. You need to take a picture of how you look right now!" She was obviously excited and impressed with how I looked. She does compliment me, and lets me know she likes the way I look, but this reaction was kind of out of character for her. It was like the change from depleted an hour earlier, to filling up and getting vascular was shocking to her.

Well I took pictures in the computer room where the lighting is typically pretty good for pics and I have to say that I was just looking awesome. The cuts on my abs especially at the top 4 where the skin is tighter was ridiculous. They looked like they were just bulging off of my abdomen and the valleys between them were both deep and etched into me. There were no shadow games, no questions about if that was a shadow or a deep cut between the abs. If the progress keeps coming at this pace, well I will just look crazy by the 25th.


Carb sources for this carb up were as such, 90 grams of carbs from Waximaize Starch 60 pre with some aminos, and 30 at the end with 100 grams of whey isolate and casien mix, 80-90 grams from whole wheat turkey spaghetti, and right about 110 from rice pudding with raisins made with skim milk.

I spoke with the wife and mentioned to her that she was right, now that I have gotten leaner I am considering another show. I really need to bring my arms up but if I do a show this year it will be in the Novice class and then next year I will do an open. That or I will just do the physique contest this year. You know the muscle model stuff. She was actually very supportive of the idea. I know the last one really put her through a lot of stress because it was my first and I didn't have any real help. My house was falling apart and the roof was damn near caving in we didn't have the budget to pay someone so I was on the roof working on it for hours every night the last 4 weeks of prep not getting my posing practice in, or having more time to plan my peak week approach much less do a practice run to see how my body would respond to my plan.

Today I am not doing any cardio or exercise of any kind. I will keep my calories nice and low, keep carbs low and see how I look Saturday morning. No reason for me to go do cardio and deplete myself farther when I can just chill and burn fat while leaving the glycogen in my muscle for a picture tomorrow if I get it right I will still be relatively full tomorrow and dryer than I am today. I was 203 yesterday morning, looking at myself today I would say I am closer to 207 and my face has no bloat so I don't think I retained much water, just filled up. We are getting a custom carrot cake from this amazing place for lunch today celebrating a birthday. I will take a piece or two home for Sunday, that is my next carb up. I will more than likely take some pics Sunday morning, Sunday during the carb up and then more than likely Monday morning and you guys will get the best of those to vote on for this week. This many pictures will also help me document how my body is responding to the carbs and at what point my body looks best, pre, during, or a day or so post carb up.

I can tell I am getting in that zone because in all honesty, I am taking pictures pretty much every single day now. I have a separate folder on my PC at home with pics for each day since Saturday. This isn't my goal but it is helping me and it is also teaching me how my body responds to what I am doing.

Fug, I was mulling the idea of a carb up tomorrow and I am fuggin tempted....I ate about 10 dates and then some strawberries and blueberries the other night and ti was freaky the way I tightened up. We are staying big so when we carb up the tightening effect is way enhanced...
 
Fug, I was mulling the idea of a carb up tomorrow and I am fuggin tempted....I ate about 10 dates and then some strawberries and blueberries the other night and ti was freaky the way I tightened up. We are staying big so when we carb up the tightening effect is way enhanced...

Certainly, I am doing my carb ups every 3-4 days based on my perceived level of depletion, and planned activity for the day. Just keep the carb up between 200-300 so you are not doing any cleaning up after. No use in going to the point of spilling over at this point in the competition. Looking at myself I really don't see much clean up at all if any. May have the tiniest bit of water but if so it is not glaring.
 
Certainly, I am doing my carb ups every 3-4 days based on my perceived level of depletion, and planned activity for the day. Just keep the carb up between 200-300 so you are not doing any cleaning up after. No use in going to the point of spilling over at this point in the competition. Looking at myself I really don't see much clean up at all if any. May have the tiniest bit of water but if so it is not glaring.

I've gone to 600 without any clean up and I got to 200 every workout day...
 
Nice! I think I could go higher but this is pure cut time. I was just trying to get leptin levels up a bit to keep the metabolism from dropping off. Of course 6 Shift a day that is probably not gonna happen anyway, that would be about the equivalent of 60mcg of T3 a day. ;)
 
Nice! I think I could go higher but this is pure cut time. I was just trying to get leptin levels up a bit to keep the metabolism from dropping off. Of course 6 Shift a day that is probably not gonna happen anyway, that would be about the equivalent of 60mcg of T3 a day. ;)

It all depends on how low your carbs are to begin with, you probably get out of 300 what I get from 500... my insane activity level has me needing something reasonable substantial I think but maybe 400-500 will do the trick I do get some definite volume from 200 at this point being much leaner. I am sure I could get away with much more but I don't think it's necessary is all..
 
I think I might go to China town and wear a tank and order a plate of Singapore noodles and watch folks freak out as they watch me get bigger :)
 
Nice!
 
I feel like I have been living off of carbs for the last week...being out of my environment really throws off my nutrition. It amazes me that you can get just about anything in a grocery wrapped in plastic or bagged, but not a damn chicken breast...somebody needs to start selling a damn single serving chicken breast!!!
 
I feel like I have been living off of carbs for the last week...being out of my environment really throws off my nutrition. It amazes me that you can get just about anything in a grocery wrapped in plastic or bagged, but not a damn chicken breast...somebody needs to start selling a damn single serving chicken breast!!!

Actually grocery stores have that, it's cut up in chunks and usually flavored a bit. Also Beef and turkey jerky and turkey peperoni would come in handy...
 
TurningGreen said:
I feel like I have been living off of carbs for the last week...being out of my environment really throws off my nutrition. It amazes me that you can get just about anything in a grocery wrapped in plastic or bagged, but not a damn chicken breast...somebody needs to start selling a damn single serving chicken breast!!!

Bought some lemon pepper breasts last night precooked.
 
My carbs are low again I am already flattening back out again. I had 45 grams of carbs surrounding my workout and the rest for the day will be trace carbs. I sat in the sauna today so I opted not to take pics post workout. I tend to look a little wet after that until the water that was pulled to the skins surface for cooling gets either pulled back into muscle or evaporates. A few hours later and I normally look dry again. Tomorrow I should look pretty darn good but probably a little flat. I will carb up throughout the day and take some pics during the process. Then one more set on Monday morning post workout.

Here is the workout we went with today. Rest periods were basically however long it took for each other to change the weight and do a set then we jumped right under it once it was changed and went for it. I would estimate 60-80 seconds rest we kept it moving though. Rep tempo was explode on the concentric contraction and about a 1-2 second eccentric.

HS Incline 70 per side x15, 135x10, 115x15

Lat Pull Down CG for warm up 135x15, BW Close / Neutral Grip Pull Ups x12, x10

Standing BB Shoulder Press 95x15, 155x9, 135x12

BB Drag Curls 60x15, 90x10, 70x8

CG Bench - 135x15, 225x9, 185x10

Leg Press - 4 plates per side x20, 5 plates x20, 6 plates x20

Rear Delt Flies - 17.5x15, 17.5x12
 
tallguy34 said:
So Kleen... where's the gangsta cut photos??

X2....after reading about how great you looked in the photos, WE WANT TO SEE THEM!!
 
Well I took some this morning and I was nice and lean but completely flat. I will take a few more in the morning I am getting the last of about 400 grams in now. I will also probably post a few from the last carb up just in case I spill over from tonight.
 
Come to think of it it's about time to see the Master Jeff pics!! You kicking my butt man!
 
Yah Jeff remember we all look much better in person, not taking anything away from Chris but pics do none of us justice... I know mne don't even come close. Only pics by pro's in really great lighting come even close...
 
DreamWeaver said:
Yah Jeff remember we all look much better in person, not taking anything away from Chris but pics do none of us justice... I know mne don't even come close. Only pics by pro's in really great lighting come even close...

very true Doug
 
Thanks, I am off today taking kids to doctor. Going to do some type of exercise afterwards while I have my tire looked at since it is across from the gym. I already have a set of pics but will take one more later this afternoon. Thanks for the compliments Jeff.
 
Well I took some this morning and I was nice and lean but completely flat. I will take a few more in the morning I am getting the last of about 400 grams in now. I will also probably post a few from the last carb up just in case I spill over from tonight.

When you going to come Kleen...with those pics.
 
Soon enough my good Sir. Soon enough...
 
MrKleen73 said:
Thanks, I am off today taking kids to doctor. Going to do some type of exercise afterwards while I have my tire looked at since it is across from the gym. I already have a set of pics but will take one more later this afternoon. Thanks for the compliments Jeff.

:) you know it brother
 
Who's this??

Too late to get in on an 8 week comp?>
What is up Brother been a long time since you have been around!

I am about to go do a little mini lift and sweat a little I am holding water from my carb up yesterday and need to see if I can pull a little off before taking some more pics here in a few. We will see which ones I put up the flat and depleted ones or the full and possibly a little watery ones.
 
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