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Inarius/Metroba/Orby Workout Log

:p Ok granted but I'd rather be paranoid about my nips and suspect the roids I'm taking/hormonal imbalances then being to late to treat actual gyno..
 
oh no doubt, and a combo of l-dopa and p5p does a decent attack job at prolactin anyhow, with no negatives (unlike nolva). I'd go higher than 200 tho, probably at least 300, maybe even as high as 600 for a week.
 
EasyEJL said:
oh no doubt, and a combo of l-dopa and p5p does a decent attack job at prolactin anyhow, with no negatives (unlike nolva). I'd go higher than 200 tho, probably at least 300, maybe even as high as 600 for a week.
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Yeah, actually, nolva will make prolactin induced gyno worse. You need clomid for that.

Cabergoline would be best for prolactin control but it has been linked to heart related issues in higher doses. Although they say dosages needed for prolactin control (500mcg E3D/E5D) arent dangerous.

So what you're suggesting might be safest at this point ;)
 
Oh on nolva i just meant that even for estro gyno, nolva has negative sides including doing more liver harm than most methyls. :) whereas no negative sides to l-dopa or p5p at all. But definitely cabergoline or bromocriptine would be handy, just also a wee bit iffy side effect wise long term.

But if 600mg of p5p a day for a week got women to stop lactating, it ought to work pretty well for men too :D
 
EasyEJL said:
Oh on nolva i just meant that even for estro gyno, nolva has negative sides including doing more liver harm than most methyls. :) whereas no negative sides to l-dopa or p5p at all. But definitely cabergoline or bromocriptine would be handy, just also a wee bit iffy side effect wise long term.

But if 600mg of p5p a day for a week got women to stop lactating, it ought to work pretty well for men too :D
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Yeah you would think so lol :)

Although it didnt give me the crazy *ss pornstar abilities caber did, damn you just can keep going and going and going on that lol. I do understand how actual pornstars do it now :laugh:
 
Day 15 - weight 176 (+4lbs)

So I guess that half lb gain was just poo or glycogen cause its gone now and Ive eatn more and more. So idk.

Had a nice shoulder w/o today.

w/o:
1. Seated db press - 35x10 (+2 reps), 45x10 (+2 reps), 55x9 (+1 rep), 60x4 (+5lbs)
2. 1 arm upright cable rows - 30x10, 35x10, 40x10 no rest in between sets
3. Reverse cable x-overs - 5x10, 10x10, 15x10 no rest
4. 1 arm lateral raises - 30x16, 40x11-5 (rest pause), 45x8-4-2 (rest pause)
5. 1 arm bentover lateral raises - 40x16, 50x16, 55x12
6. High incline front raises - 30x16, 35x8-4-4 (rest pause)
7. 1 arm behind back cable lateral raises - 2x16

Today's pics
 

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The worst gyno I got was after I ran Rebound Reloaded (6-bromo)...I remember I got gyno from a Test Prop cycle (Synovex conversion), I took 20mg of Tamox, and it was gone by that evening. That was the best treatment ever. I wish it was always that easy.
 
Diet advice:

Eat a ton of greens, a good amount of fat, decent protein coming from fish, and carbs only in the morning and intra-wo...Working WONDERS for me! Check out the new pics. 6-pack imminent. :D
 
not to make any light of people who have actual gyno, but the gyno paranoia is amazing sometimes. Its almost as bad as the catabolism paranoia
 
Irish Cannon said:
Diet advice:

Eat a ton of greens, a good amount of fat, decent protein coming from fish, and carbs only in the morning and intra-wo...Working WONDERS for me! Check out the new pics. 6-pack imminent. :D
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What types of carbs do you have in the morning/intra-wo? No preworkout carbs?
 
Unless an An rep tells me not to, Im gonna try 4 caps today.

Took 2 pre w/o and taking the other 2 at 1:30pm.
 
Ill take that smile as a "go ahead and do it"

:D
 
Only thing is I weight 176...am I asking for trouble?
 
well, its not like if its bad (split as 2/2) that it will be bad for more than the rest of the day, and then you don't repeat it tomorrow :D Some guys over 200 have gone with just 3, but its all pretty individual
 
true. well Ill try out 4 at 2/2 for a day or 2. If things look good, Ill continue.
 
metroba said:
I thought muscle mass was lbm :think: What's the difference?

And thanks Rosie :)
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Nope, muscle mass and LBM are DIFFERENT things (although muscle mass is a PART of LBM).

Muscle mass = The actual amount of muscle mass that you have in your body.

LBM = Everything aside from fat mass in your body (i.e. water, glycogen, bone, tissue, organs, muscle, etc.)


metroba said:
Oh true. I didnt even think about that stuff. It does look like Ive done a little recomp. But I really was looking forward to gaining 10 or more lbs. I really cant figure out why Im not gainging. Im eating sooooo much food. My gf is littlerally getting sick from watching me eat so much. She also said she doesnt notice a difference in my size. Except that my arms look bigger...

...

...yes, day 12, up 4lbs, and your right I do look maybe 1-1.5% leaner and I am a bit stronger...
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If you're not gaining weight, but you're noticing that you're leaning up and size increases in specific areas, then maybe you are just losing fat and gaining muscle mass; and I would say that in itself that is a good result.


metroba said:
Ive decided on doing a full 4 weeker. Ive come this far. I may as well just take it all the way. Plus I seem to be reacting to TO differently than everybody else. And Ive only put on 4.5 lbs. Still good weight. Just not the weight I wanted. So Im going to stick through it and finish this up, hopefully 10lbs heavier. 7-8 of which I will probably keep :crosses fingers:
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Good for you, Rob; the rest of the ride shall be interesting indeed. We all know that everyone has different experiences with products etc.


metroba said:
Unless an An rep tells me not to, Im gonna try 4 caps today.

Took 2 pre w/o and taking the other 2 at 1:30pm.
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...well Ill try out 4 at 2/2 for a day or 2. If things look good, Ill continue.
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Yep, should be ok. If you start feeling lethargy you could always dose 3/1 and see how that goes.
 
Thanks Rosie! I would be interested in doing 3/1 dosing just for the fact that Id get more in pre w/o but Ive gotten some bad lethargy from 3 dosing. So I think 2/2 is prob my best bet. If the lethargy comes back like before. Im droppn back down to 2/1.
 
metroba said:
Thanks Rosie! I would be interested in doing 3/1 dosing just for the fact that Id get more in pre w/o but Ive gotten some bad lethargy from 3 dosing. So I think 2/2 is prob my best bet. If the lethargy comes back like before. Im droppn back down to 2/1.
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Sounds good; since you're <200lb, then 3 caps would be ok. Or you could add in a preworkout product/stimulant and see how that goes as well.
 
what's the good word brutha Rob, how's that nip doing?
 
metroba said:
Thanks Rosie! I would be interested in doing 3/1 dosing just for the fact that Id get more in pre w/o but Ive gotten some bad lethargy from 3 dosing. So I think 2/2 is prob my best bet. If the lethargy comes back like before. Im droppn back down to 2/1.
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I switched to 2/2 2 days ago and like it much better. Was doing 3@8AM before, now do 2@7:30, 2@11:30. Libido is higher and no lethargy late afternoon. Also more agression/energy in the gym @18:00.
 
1HP said:
I switched to 2/2 2 days ago and like it much better. Was doing 3@8AM before, now do 2@7:30, 2@11:30. Libido is higher and no lethargy late afternoon. Also more agression/energy in the gym @18:00.
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ive also noticed this as well, big shoot up in libido from moving from 3 caps to 4.
 
delsolrob said:
what's the good word brutha Rob, how's that nip doing?
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I havent tried to milk myself in 2 days. Ill check in a few days. Dont wanna play with em too much.
1HP said:
I switched to 2/2 2 days ago and like it much better. Was doing 3@8AM before, now do 2@7:30, 2@11:30. Libido is higher and no lethargy late afternoon. Also more agression/energy in the gym @18:00.
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For real! My aggression is way up!! Libido is up a tad...not much yet.
 
Day 16 -weight 177 (+5lbs)

Sweet! Im up a pound! I do look puffier today. So some of it does look like glycogen and fat. Idk yet. We'll see over the next few days.

The w/o: Leg DOMination!
1. SLDL - 135x6, 225x6, 275x6, 315x4, 355x4 (PR!)
2. BB hacks - 135x6, 155x6, 175x6, 195x6 (PR!), 205x4 (PR!)
3. CG bench - Havent done this one in a while. 135x6, 155x6, 175x3
4. Incline db alt/sup curls - 60x7 (+1 rep; PR!), 50x10, 45x10
5. Angled leg press - 90x6, 180x6, 270x6, 360x6, 380x5 :dead: Pathetic! Its been awhile. No worries Ill catch back up.
6.Skullcrushers - 50x10, 60x10, 70x6
7. Spider curls - 40x9 (+1 rep), 35x9 (+1 rep), 30x14 (+4 reps!)
8. Db step ups - 90x6, 110x6, 130x6 (PR!)
9. 1 arm overhead ext. - 30x10 (+4 reps; PR!), 25x16 (+4 reps), 25x16
10. High cable curls to head - #s are diff on this machine than last time - 5x12, 5x12, 6x10

Twas swweet!! Doms are gonna be nutz!

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:rofl: nicely done
 
Me too! I am sooooo full and pumped today! My body def likes 4 caps more! I have a feeling Ill be a pound heavier tomorrow too! Unfortunately I wont be near a scale until Sunday :rant:
 
VolcomX311 said:
You and me both! I wished my traps and bi's would stay pumped on non-workout days, no fair :28:
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(Elevating High Pitched Stewie Griffin Voice) Maybe a little...you know..SLIN with a little GlycerGrow, there? Ya? Maybe a little...you know a little Waxy Maize...some BCAAs?...Get a nice pump there...Ya?

But seriously. GlycerGrow is the key to day-long pumps...6 scoop intra-wo, and then sip some throughout the day...Shaboinga!
 
Good to see you enjoying this metroba, and you dont look fat in anyway in that pic man! Looking awesome actually!! Get in there brother!! SMASH IT!!
 
Irish Cannon said:
(Elevating High Pitched Stewie Griffin Voice) Maybe a little...you know..SLIN with a little GlycerGrow, there? Ya? Maybe a little...you know a little Waxy Maize...some BCAAs?...Get a nice pump there...Ya?

But seriously. GlycerGrow is the key to day-long pumps...6 scoop intra-wo, and then sip some throughout the day...Shaboinga!
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I liked slin. Made me really itchy tho. Id like to try GG one when the money is there. Stuff looks good.


Thanks Craig! Def was bloated in that pic tho. I look much better today. Too bad I cant weigh in until tomorrow :(.

Nips are looking waaay less puffy with 200mg p5p/day and 2g 1-c/day :woohoo:
 
Irish Cannon said:
(Elevating High Pitched Stewie Griffin Voice) Maybe a little...you know..SLIN with a little GlycerGrow, there? Ya? Maybe a little...you know a little Waxy Maize...some BCAAs?...Get a nice pump there...Ya?

But seriously. GlycerGrow is the key to day-long pumps...6 scoop intra-wo, and then sip some throughout the day...Shaboinga!
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That was a hilarious exchange between Stewie and Brian, definitely a classic scene in my opinion :laugh:
 
metroba said:
I liked slin. Made me really itchy tho. Id like to try GG one when the money is there. Stuff looks good.


Thanks Craig! Def was bloated in that pic tho. I look much better today. Too bad I cant weigh in until tomorrow :(.

Nips are looking waaay less puffy with 200mg p5p/day and 2g 1-c/day :woohoo:
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awesome! I am getting some more p-5-p today. I want to order 1c today too. I've never used it.
 
Irish Cannon said:
(Elevating High Pitched Stewie Griffin Voice) Maybe a little...you know..SLIN with a little GlycerGrow, there? Ya? Maybe a little...you know a little Waxy Maize...some BCAAs?...Get a nice pump there...Ya?

But seriously. GlycerGrow is the key to day-long pumps...6 scoop intra-wo, and then sip some throughout the day...Shaboinga!
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