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Do Selective Beta 2 Agonists enhance muscle, performance, and LBM?

schizm said:
Inb4 Aaron finds himself in a pair of freshly made concrete boots just before being tossed into the ohio river.

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Oh no'z
 
Bolanrox said:
theres a supp mafia?? i thought that was just a myth :)
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There's truth in everything ;)
 
AaronJP1 said:
Whole heartily agree.
Some people lift different, methods, styles and #s...
Its cool to list PRs if that's the case, (product to help induce work out intensity/strength), but other wise maybe diet or simple body comp changes and how you feel the overall sups are treating you.

I hate logging #s and sets it's just not what I'm about, 80% time I skim through that to find the detail about the products.

No1 knows how much u lift or lifted in the pass so it doesn't matter much to the sup unless you're setting PRs almost every work out.



That's fair & legit as well....
Respect that.
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Yes correct. I mean after the 10th post of your daily workout routine, it kind of gets monotonous. The same thing with your diet. I don't need to know each and every time you eat and what you eat. These things you can mention as a generalization. For instance, "I eat low carb, alternating with high carbs". That is good enough. I don't want to go through pages and pages of what you ate for each and every day, the same thing goes for your workout. You can say that you added 10 pounds to your deadlift since starting this new supplement. I don't need to know your entire history of working out. The fact that you added those 10 pounds is what is important. What weight you started with is not important. If you didn't make a gain that day, well then I don't really care. All that excess garbage is why I'm not a fan of logs. Ultimately the small review posts are what influence my decision to purchase a product, NOT the logs.

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T-Bone said:
Yes correct. I mean after the 10th post of your daily workout routine, it kind of gets monotonous. The same thing with your diet. I don't need to know each and every time you eat and what you eat. These things you can mention as a generalization. For instance, "I eat low carb, alternating with high carbs". That is good enough. I don't want to go through pages and pages of what you ate for each and every day, the same thing goes for your workout. You can say that you added 10 pounds to your deadlift since starting this new supplement. I don't need to know your entire history of working out. The fact that you added those 10 pounds is what is important. What weight you started with is not important. If you didn't make a gain that day, well then I don't really care. All that excess garbage is why I'm not a fan of logs. Ultimately the small review posts are what influence my decision to purchase a product, NOT the logs.

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Haha so true rep'd
 
StackedCop said:
What? Tbone's post made me lol and was full of good info :)
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Mine was 2 haha
 
Abbreviated versions of logs. Check. Updates and a summary. Got it.:thumbsup:
 
taman6886 said:
Age: 43
Height 6'2"
Weight 265

Training experience: Started lifting to improve strength for football and wrestling. Graduated, got lazy, hit 300+ and went back to work aroubd 1990, stripped out to 215, added muscle to 235 over about 8 years of lifting. Got remarried, let myself go, got back at it again in May of 2010 and have been going steady since, dropped from 322 to my current weight.

Currently running Intermittent fasting protocols for dietary, target of below 2200 on burn days and 2700 on lifting days. Running 5/3/1 strenght training because moving bigger piles of iron is what gets me off. Not the strongest dude but making progress. (Am currently dropping weight on my squat to rework my form.) I also hit the cardio machines 3-4 times a week.

Current Sups: Division I, Titanium, Erase Pro, Combustion. This was kind of my post PCT PCT if you know what I mean.

Goal is to continue to get leaner while maintaining and or gaining strength.

PWO Hx: I have a god awful stim tolerance. Wyked is my usual stand by but have also used Maniac, 1MR, SuperPump 250, and LitUp

Other sups: Used RecoverPro for intraworkout. Have used Modern BCAA and like it also. Have experience running Halotest (H Drol clone), Epistane, 5aOHP, RS Transaderm, Finaflex 1 Andro and Androlean V2.

Logs:
Currently commited to this one-

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/193146-kickin-out-estro.html

Past examples:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/173452-tamans-getting-wyked.html

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/185024-big-boys-throw-47.html

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I have a commitment to do a Combustion log for 30 days after I finish the erasepro log, so I understand if this disqualifies me from consideration.
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Sniff sniff! Hmmmm, are we supposed to be able the "smell" something?

Good choice for logger even if he can't get his smell-o-vision computer to work! ( maybe mine's broke?)
 
PrepNwa23 said:
Stats - 5'10, 172 pounds

Goals - Trying to lean out some more and think the stack of Compound 20, Prime and Erase would be an incredible stack.

Workout - I'm currently upping my rep's to increase muscle endurance. And been reading about going on the Lean Gains to help achieve my goals.

Logging Experience - I have no problem posting atleast a review or logging anything. I'll try to post links to all my logs. I'm very active on AM.
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This guy definitely needs a chance to log this redic stack.
 
The Final Five Winners

Consistent with our earlier announcement to select another five (5) lucky winners, in addition to the original 20, I am pleased, on behalf of the rest of the team, to congratulate the following winners for being selected to join the original 20:

_mArs_

PrepNwa23

taman6886

LiveToLift

breezy11


Please send an e-mail to [email protected] with your Username, Full Name, and Shipping Address. The title of the e-mail should be: AnabolicMinds Promotion.

This now formally marks the end of this awesome promotion. The next steps are shipment of the prizes and commencement of the logs.

Once again, congratulations to all the winners. Beyond this, we would also like to thank all the applicants and the supporters that gave this promotion the attention it deserved.

Thank you!
 
Congrats guys!!! Let's log this and show how Good these products really are....good luck to all winners!!!! :)
 
strategicmove said:
Consistent with our earlier announcement to select another five (5) lucky winners, in addition to the original 20, I am pleased, on behalf of the rest of the team, to congratulate the following winners for being selected to join the original 20:

_mArs_

PrepNwa23

taman6886

LiveToLift

breezy11

Please send an e-mail to [email protected] with your Username, Full Name, and Shipping Address. The title of the e-mail should be: AnabolicMinds Promotion.

This now formally marks the end of this awesome promotion. The next steps are shipment of the prizes and commencement of the logs.

Once again, congratulations to all the winners. Beyond this, we would also like to thank all the applicants and the supporters that gave this promotion the attention it deserved.

Thank you!
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Hell ya! I'm honored and very excited, thank you for the opportunity!
 
Congrats to all the winners here.
Very generous of usp and pes to do this.
The forum is going to be full of interesting logs !
 
strategicmove said:
Consistent with our earlier announcement to select another five (5) lucky winners, in addition to the original 20, I am pleased, on behalf of the rest of the team, to congratulate the following winners for being selected to join the original 20:

_mArs_

PrepNwa23

taman6886

LiveToLift

breezy11


Please send an e-mail to [email protected] with your Username, Full Name, and Shipping Address. The title of the e-mail should be: AnabolicMinds Promotion.

This now formally marks the end of this awesome promotion. The next steps are shipment of the prizes and commencement of the logs.

Once again, congratulations to all the winners. Beyond this, we would also like to thank all the applicants and the supporters that gave this promotion the attention it deserved.

Thank you!
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Thank you Sir. Just a reminder as I stated up front, I will not be able to log this until I finish a 30 day Combustion Log which starts on 3/8/12. Do you want the log to cover the entire stack, the c-20 or how do you want this ran?
 
strategicmove said:
Consistent with our earlier announcement to select another five (5) lucky winners, in addition to the original 20, I am pleased, on behalf of the rest of the team, to congratulate the following winners for being selected to join the original 20:

_mArs_

PrepNwa23

taman6886

LiveToLift

breezy11

Please send an e-mail to [email protected] with your Username, Full Name, and Shipping Address. The title of the e-mail should be: AnabolicMinds Promotion.

This now formally marks the end of this awesome promotion. The next steps are shipment of the prizes and commencement of the logs.

Once again, congratulations to all the winners. Beyond this, we would also like to thank all the applicants and the supporters that gave this promotion the attention it deserved.

Thank you!
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Thanks USP and PES for the amazing promo and opportunity. It doesn't look like ill be able to start my log to be eligible for round 2 but ill get it going soon after.
 
taman6886 said:
Thank you Sir. Just a reminder as I stated up front, I will not be able to log this until I finish a 30 day Combustion Log which starts on 3/8/12. Do you want the log to cover the entire stack, the c-20 or how do you want this ran?
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We prefer the log to reflect the main products that are the subject of this co-promotion.
 
strategicmove said:
We prefer the log to reflect the main products that are the subject of this co-promotion.
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I can't start my log right away but I will totally log the gym bag in the mean time lol.
Do you guys want all the products to be logged simultaneously? Or say...can one log the Modern and Jack3d (you guys stoke my name btw) and then log the EP/C20?
 
strategicmove said:
We prefer the log to reflect the main products that are the subject of this co-promotion.
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I was thinking about running the C20 and Erase Pro with Alpha T2 + OxyElite Pro stack which I have used before, whats your thoughts on this?
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
I can't start my log right away but I will totally log the gym bag in the mean time lol.
Do you guys want all the products to be logged simultaneously? Or say...can one log the Modern and Jack3d (you guys stoke my name btw) and then log the EP/C20?
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Considering that Jack3d is used on workout days only, and that ModernBCAA can be used everyday, you can actually add the two to a Compound-20/Erase Pro log.
 
Jonbero said:
I was thinking about running the C20 and Erase Pro with Alpha T2 + OxyElite Pro stack which I have used before, whats your thoughts on this?
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That should be fine, as long as you can still decipher the effects of Compound-20/Erase Pro.
 
Jonbero said:
I was thinking about running the C20 and Erase Pro with Alpha T2 + OxyElite Pro stack which I have used before, whats your thoughts on this?
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FL3X MAGNUM said:
I can't start my log right away but I will totally log the gym bag in the mean time lol.
Do you guys want all the products to be logged simultaneously? Or say...can one log the Modern and Jack3d (you guys stoke my name btw) and then log the EP/C20?
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Irresistible stacks
 
WIll start mine next month but the time it clears customs
 
Log will go up the day I get the products, seems it will be perfect timing for my post pct stack!
 
Im about 6 weeks into a Prime and Powerfull stack ( too poor to afford Anabolic Pump right now ) but as soon as I get my package, ill formulate a plan and log soon after. Maybe start it on Monday. We'll see if C20 and Erase Pro can compete with Prime's abillity to boost my strength. Probably goin to follow a carb back loading program for this, although carbs may increase C20's effectiveness. Any Usp labs reps that can comment on that?
 
rulk22 said:
We'll see if C20 and Erase Pro can compete with Prime's abillity to boost my strength.
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thats what I am going to be looking to see as well. (re strength gains)

rulk22 said:
Probably goin to follow a carb back loading program for this, although carbs may increase C20's effectiveness. Any Usp labs reps that can comment on that?
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I think they mentioned that this acted similar to a GDA and the absence of carbs could lead to a sluggish like feeling. I am a low carber myself so it will be interesting to see how this is with a low carb diet. I am sure strategic will chime in soon on c20 and low carb diets.

BTW what is this "carb backloading"? A form of carb cycling?
 
rulk22 said:
Im about 6 weeks into a Prime and Powerfull stack ( too poor to afford Anabolic Pump right now ) but as soon as I get my package, ill formulate a plan and log soon after. Maybe start it on Monday. We'll see if C20 and Erase Pro can compete with Prime's abillity to boost my strength. Probably goin to follow a carb back loading program for this, although carbs may increase C20's effectiveness. Any Usp labs reps that can comment on that?
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the strength aspect of PRIME is special for a natural supplement. I personally think it's a must use for any athlete wanting strength or anyone going into PCT to maintain or gain strength..
 
All this talk about prime in here makes me want to try it.
Think the only stuff I haven't used from usp is anabolic pump and prime.
 
mmacrazy said:
All this talk about prime in here makes me want to try it.
Think the only stuff I haven't used from usp is anabolic pump and prime.
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I used a lot of Prime over the last few years and got others to as well, all expereinced very good strength gains. Nobody ever really knew why, but I never really cared :)
 
Prime looks solid. I just picked up a couple bottles of Super Cissus. Haven't tried it before but I've been lifting heavy and some serious joint pain to take care of.
 
breezy11 said:
Prime looks solid. I just picked up a couple bottles of Super Cissus. Haven't tried it before but I've been lifting heavy and some serious joint pain to take care of.
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Another stellar product, I have 5 bottles here in my locker at work :), yep there they are right there :) There was a kller sale a nutra a couple weeks back...
 
DreamWeaver said:
Another stellar product, I have 5 bottles here in my locker at work :), yep there they are right there :) There was a kller sale a nutra a couple weeks back...
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I got a really good deal on it as well. How long does it typically take you to start noticing it's benefits?
 
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