D Aspartic Acid & Negative side effects
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Patrick Arnold
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chronic pot smokers often suffer from some serious phsychological withdrawal syptoms when they discontinue.
6andaHalf
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Patrick Arnold said:
Yea, whenever any of my friends stop for a week or two they are a tad irritable, just because they would rather be smoking. Nothing happens to most except a cleared head, more alert in the am and better short term memory. Withdrawal is a funny word to me, I think of real drugs. I put pot up there with coffee and cigarettes (dont smoke cigs though) Been smoking on and off for 15 years. Withdrawal is MUCH worse for coffee drinkers than pot smokers though, if you actually wanna use the word "withdrawal" haha... dun dun DUNNNN.... caffeine is physically addictive though, cannabis is def not.
Patrick Arnold
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u cannot separate psychological from physical. after all, are not neurotransmitters and the brain part of our physical makeup?
some people suffer more withdrawal agony then others. Just because you cannot see their agony clearly, or measure it in physically observable terms, does not make it any less real
6andaHalf
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Patrick Arnold said:
Well I guess you can look at it like that. Medically speaking "physically" usually pertains to actual withdrawal. Ive been to countless meetings with family and friends, sadly. Psychological addiction pertains to a mindset and the cravings themselves whereas in physical addiction you will actually undergo tangible effects on the body (like dope sickness), headaches, chills, fever, nausea and vomiting. You CANNOT become sick or physically dependant on marijuana.
Agony? Are you for real man? Im in the center of a huge community of friends who "use" (haha) marijuana. ***GASP*** You talk about it like its as bad as alcohol or something.... yup I said it haha. I hear you in a sense though, just sticks out to me that you aren't exactly around many pot smokers or something. Im just speaking from 15 years experience and tons of peers so take what you want from it. Im def not trying to argue. Im far out numbered in here for sure.
Patrick Arnold
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You probably think that severely depressed people are just pussies and should MAN UP.
Do you think that one has to manifest measurable physical symptoms to feel subjective pain and misery? Lets say your daughter was raped and murdered. Should your mental pain be disregarded because a doctors examination cant detect any abnormalities?
YOu cant be that ignorant
Patrick Arnold
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Additionally, I would imagine that functional MRI could demonstrate to you the dysfunction of someone going through "psychological" withdrawal in a manner that is visually obvious.
Patrick Arnold
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By far the worst part of "dope sickness" is the pschological aspect. The physical part is terrible and real, but with the psyche so messed up one cannot "handle" the physical symptoms in a way they normally would like when they are sick. You have no endorphins to fall back on. Before you dismiss for not knowing what i am talking about i had to go through some of the worst imgainable opiate withdrawal when i was much younger
6andaHalf
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Patrick Arnold said:
No dismissal at all, friend. You were spot on there. Opiates kill, man. My little brother just had to move away because of that. Glad you kicked it!! Super rough. Most people are never the same if they kick it and if not I have lost 7 friends to it.
Pot is not in the same psychological ballpark though, its not even the same sport as I'm sure you know.
Patrick Arnold
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It was 18 years ago. Certainly pot doesnt compare, but for some people stopping pot can be very anxiety provoking and can interfere with daily function. I had a girlfriend that tried to quit pot and it really made her bonkers. Of course her brain chemistry was not right to begin with
Profion
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read the 5 first pages of this post and it kind gave me the chills!
So is DAA safe, should i discontinue, dump it in the dumpster? Can some one please make a short sum about of this thread, so we have a small and konkrete saying of what DAA is, does, works, sides, pros, you know..
So is DAA safe, should i discontinue, dump it in the dumpster? Can some one please make a short sum about of this thread, so we have a small and konkrete saying of what DAA is, does, works, sides, pros, you know..
Outside Backer
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top 5 best youtube vids lololol
6andaHalf
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Profion said:
I would have to say side effects include pimples and boners haha. It can make me a little bit more aggressive at times in a good way but it's hardly noticeable for me most of the time . It does a good job of raising your body's natural testosterone and that's about it. It's just an amino acid at the end of the day. I've taken about 10 cycles of it and have no idea about all this psychological mumbo jumbo. Everybody is different though so I don't want to discredit anyone who has had a bad experience but I don't really see how it could produce any one major effect on anyone. It raises my libido, slightly raises strength and I break out a little. This whole thread seems to be blown out of proportion but like I said everybody is different
Poly
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I am a long-time lurker and just decided to create an account to give my 2-cents. Just a little background: this is my second time taking DAA supplements--in which I am currently taking AI DAA; while my first cycle ever was Animal Test(which I took last-year). When I was on DAA supplement, I did notice that I started to develop brain fog--my cognitive function, mental clarity, focus, and reasoning had been decreased enough to be very noticeable. How do I know it had been decreased? Simple, I turned into a complete idiot during lectures and was unable to understand anything. For example; my professor would be talking and presenting notes, but for some reason I was just not able to understand the concept! And the "fog" was very bothersome to the point I could not read what was on the screen without forgetting what I just read. My memory took a hit too; I would forget what I just read and would have to read it over and over again. Everything that I heard and read just flew out the other end--it felt as if my IQ dropped and my brain went full retard. I would read research papers and respond with "What the **** is this", I would try to learn a new formula and respond with "What the **** is that", and lastly, the notes, homework, and exams were met with my "What the **** is all of this". This has happened with Animal Test too! DAA has affected my ability to perform in task that requires critical thinking skills, problem solving skills, logical and reasoning skills--my cognitive functions took a hit.
The reason why I started supplementing my second DAA even though my first one also gave me the same problem was simply because I did not know what was causing it back then. I automatically assumed I was sick with the flu or deficient in my proper diet, mineral, and vitamins. It wasn't until today, when there are more information available, that I was able to finally realize and correlate.
Thankfully, the problem isn't permanent; rather it only exists when you are on DAA and disappears couple of days later after you're off it. I highly recommend those that are currently pursuing academic education to NOT take this supplement because it will possibly affect your ability to function and perform. Nor do I recommend DAA to those who currently work in careers that require mental focus, clarity, critical thinking skills, problem solving, memory, and any cognitive function demanding jobs because you might possibly be affected.
P.S. As I was typing this post, I am still under the affect of the brain fog so I may have grammatical errors.
The reason why I started supplementing my second DAA even though my first one also gave me the same problem was simply because I did not know what was causing it back then. I automatically assumed I was sick with the flu or deficient in my proper diet, mineral, and vitamins. It wasn't until today, when there are more information available, that I was able to finally realize and correlate.
Thankfully, the problem isn't permanent; rather it only exists when you are on DAA and disappears couple of days later after you're off it. I highly recommend those that are currently pursuing academic education to NOT take this supplement because it will possibly affect your ability to function and perform. Nor do I recommend DAA to those who currently work in careers that require mental focus, clarity, critical thinking skills, problem solving, memory, and any cognitive function demanding jobs because you might possibly be affected.
P.S. As I was typing this post, I am still under the affect of the brain fog so I may have grammatical errors.
bioman
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Still evaluating DAA myself. The runs are definitely a problem. Brain-wise, hmm, hard to put a finger on. Deliberately not reading all of this thread to avoid freaking myself out. Probably just finish up the tub of Test Powder I have and not re-order as the benefits are far from amazing so far.
Agree with PA..pot can actually be a little tough to kick. Its more like the fear of missing out on the relaxation that causes outright anxiety. Otherwise, I really don't think there is a physical withdrawal, per se. Self medicating bipolars are a totally different story.
Agree with PA..pot can actually be a little tough to kick. Its more like the fear of missing out on the relaxation that causes outright anxiety. Otherwise, I really don't think there is a physical withdrawal, per se. Self medicating bipolars are a totally different story.
mr.cooper69
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LOL wow. Is that one of the reasons? Is it really? Not related to the patent at all right?God, spare us the sales pitch. You didn't take out DAA because of some ridiculous neurological issues induced by hypersensitivity to NMDAR stimulation. I know who originally formulated Form-X and I know what your company's approach was in making the product so please, let's at least do consumers the courtesy of being honest, rather than pimping your product in a largely unrelated thread.
JD261985
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BigMikeC said:
Is this a joke I'm on my second bottle of form x I need that ****ing DAA. Why in the hell would you remove it? I have erase pro I doubt need any more damn arimistane. I ordered two more bottles if I get the new version I'm going to flip. My pct is perfect and this will **** it up
LiveToLift
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mr.cooper69 said:
Completely agree coop, this has to be some sort of a joke....
BigMikeC
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This is why I said ONE of the reasons. Daa works well, why do you think its in every test booster now days. That being said we are now seeing cases where SOME people have minor psych probs ie depression, brain, fog, etc and yes there is the patent which is another mess we'd rather avoid. Myself ive never had any daa sides but others might. So in our new formulation we left it out. Went with calcium lactate instead of daa. I'll have a full right up soon on it for you guys on whats in it and why.
PREracing25
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Poly said:
After reading what you wrote and somewhat disgusted in how you wrote it I will respond as followed. I tend to not get offended online as no one really directs a statement at someone without putting there name in said statement. However your post hit a soft spot. You seem to be extremely intelligent as I believe we all are in are own way. But by saying that because of DAA you feel as you went full retard. All the problems you are having I have lived with my whole life as I do have a memory defencieny. As I said I don't get offend while online but this post p!ssed me off. I will be on DAA at the end of the week and il let you know if my brain falls further into a retarded state as you would put it.
Patrick Arnold
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Patrick Arnold
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EasyEJL
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dosed at 3g a day or lower, there shouldn't be an issue honestly. And definitely for any drugs, whether they have a physical addiction capability or not they definitely have psychological addiction capability. Heck steroids have a psychological addiction capability.
Poly
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I am sorry if I have offended anyone with my "full retard" quote; that was was never my intention. I was just trying instill humor by adding a subtle quote from the movie "Tropic Thunder". Once again I apologize.
www(dot)youtube(dot)com/watch?v=X6WHBO_Qc-Q
PREracing25
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Poly said:
Understandable bud. Granted if been sitting at work for 4 hours now and there is nothing to do so between being on cycle and board out of my mind I'm kinda pissed.
Patrick Arnold
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joke went right over your head
that happens when you take your job as a rep too seriously
00S4Boy
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I think in a dumb down version he was trying to say it makes the nipples milky.
ponysteak
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Will you personally be righting it?
Patrick Arnold
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some companies get it right the first time....
Daycrawler
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Good thread
IntensityJ
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Started taking DAA on November 4th. After 12 days of use, I took 3 days off (per recommendations on the bottle), then finished off the remaining dosage over the next 12 days. Been off for almost two days, and I feel extremely moody and depressed. Extremely feminine-like, just really sad and emotional.
I hung out with my brother earlier, who lives in a different state and is leaving to head back to his home tomorrow, and when he left for the night I got really upset, getting teary eyed and everything. It's ridiculous. Maybe it's just that, but I've never been that way before. I can relate to the brain fog issues, too. Regardless, even if it had nothing to do with the DAA, I'm not ever touching that stuff again. This could be all in my head, but I don't recall these issues before the DAA.
I hung out with my brother earlier, who lives in a different state and is leaving to head back to his home tomorrow, and when he left for the night I got really upset, getting teary eyed and everything. It's ridiculous. Maybe it's just that, but I've never been that way before. I can relate to the brain fog issues, too. Regardless, even if it had nothing to do with the DAA, I'm not ever touching that stuff again. This could be all in my head, but I don't recall these issues before the DAA.
LiveToLift
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IntensityJ said:
Were you running an AI along side of it? Sounds like when you came off the test lowered and your estrogen took over. I never run DAA without an AI as well. When you raise your natural test you also raise your estrogen with it. Which is why a product like erase or erase pro is ideal to run along side the DAA. Really need more info on your specific case to help you any more then that. DAA is an amazingly effective product if used correctly so it would be a shame if you can no longer take it.
Patrick Arnold
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i think the idea that estrogen makes people moody and depressed is baseless
premenstrual syndrome occurs when estrogen is at its lowest. Even more importantly it is when progesterone is at its lowest following a precipitious drop. So a better explanation is the moodiness is due to female hormone withdrawal
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mr.cooper69
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Estrogen has different activity in the male vs female brain
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EatMoar
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Sp DAA turned your stupid lol. Highly doubt this. There was a study done by giving women 0.25mg of testosterone and they were told to perform a memory test before taking the testosterone pills and then after. They performed better (forgot the exact numbers) with taking the testosterone pills, with respect to memory. So I call bs on your argument there. When I was on DAA , before i took Erase with it, I felt on top of the world, horny, and felt sharper in my memory than ever. (Meh ill try to find that study later)
IntensityJ
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Totaled an amount of 50mg (per day) of Resveratrol (E)-5-(p-Hydroxystyryl)resorcinol) from ResveraPure (should have mentioned this in the first post) while on it.
mr.cooper69
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For the sake of time, this is a good review on the topic: Invalid Link Removed.
And as you said, estrogen highs (pregnancy) and withdrawal (a possible cause of SIDS) are unlikely to occur in men.
Poly
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First bold sentence response: You do realize the brain of women and men respond differently to testosterone? And I never said higher testosterone made me stupid, I was stating that DAA supplement gave me a negative side effect--which was brain fog.
And were the women abnormally low on testosterone before giving the treatment? There are so many variables to be asked. It seems that the study you posted isn't good to back up your claim; in other words, that study is not a good way to correlate to the problem we are discussing here on the forum since its: a.) a study done on women,who responds in a completely different manner due to a different biological and physiological structure; and b.) since it says they were given testosterone pills and not an actual DAA supplements.
Second bold sentence response: It could be that you're not sensitive to DAA side effects? Other posters on this forum, and several other forums, did make a statement on the 'brain fog' issue--like BigMikeC, who commented on the brain fog (and other issues) as being one of the reason why they are excluding DAA ingredient in their products [I put that quote below]--so I'm not just making this 'bs' up.
mr.cooper69
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The increase in memory from DAA is not due to testosterone production. Hypothalamic DAA levels are positively correlated with memory in rats (the purported mechanism being NMDA agonism and performance under pressure).
EatMoar
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I understand that I was just trying to shed some knowledge on the subject. I mustve misread what you wrote then, my bad. Anyway I cant find the study , i thought I had it saved but guess not.